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President Donald Trump was the first American President to set foot on North Korean soil. That took a unique courage that the Democrats lack. Let’s analyze this bold move.

 

1. It resulted North and South Korea agreeing in principle to the end of the Korean War. This was a result of President Trump strutting bold across the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) and meeting with Kim. 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/13/north-south-korea-agree-in-principle-formal-end-war-us

 

2. It provided an opportunity to breakthrough the stalemate of hostilities.

 

If we want peace in that region we need to normalize relations with North Korea and open up economic opportunities. The North Korean people are suffering from the horrors of deprivation. We need to help them find peace and prosperity.

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Coggins

First Trump convinced his followers to support Russia.

NOW he's convinced yall to support the Communist regime of North Korea

What next?

Will they have booths set up at the next CPAC convention to register people to join the Taliban or Al Qaeda????

And the winners are … - Miami University

"Well.....
Remember, our Founding Fathers were considered terrorists by 
the British crown as well, soooo.......!"

 

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Trump went to N. Korea because he loves dictators. He praised Kim. He praised Duterte. He praised Erdogan. He praised Putin. He said he wished USA generals were more like Nazi generals.

 

Trump is a TRAITOR, nothing less.

 

Who has all those missing classified documents? I'm betting they are now in either Riyadh or Moscow.

 

TREASON!!!

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On 9/3/2022 at 4:29 PM, daniellegfny said:

If we want peace in that region we need to normalize relations with North Korea and open up economic opportunities. The North Korean people are suffering from the horrors of deprivation. We need to help them find peace and prosperity.

North Korea isn't interested in being imperialized. Otherwise, a country with a population of nearly 26 million people would overthrow its dictator, Lil Kim with the bad haircut.

 

Once Lil Kim is out of the way, North Korea  could either align themselves with South Korea or allow the US to set up their government, er, show them how to conduct free and fair elections and build a democracy. 

 

Otherwise, I'm not convinced that the majority of North Koreans want to be rescued from living a deprived life under their dictator.😎

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8 hours ago, ProfD said:

North Korea isn't interested in being imperialized. Otherwise, a country with a population of nearly 26 million people would overthrow its dictator, Lil Kim with the bad haircut.

 

Once Lil Kim is out of the way, North Korea  could either align themselves with South Korea or allow the US to set up their government, er, show them how to conduct free and fair elections and build a democracy. 

 

Otherwise, I'm not convinced that the majority of North Koreans want to be rescued from living a deprived life under their dictator.😎

I don't feel that we can blame the people. Living under such a system, one is terrorized into submission. I've lived in such a country, where people are viciously abused yet the system grinds on decade after decade... When speaking out means a torture-death by machete, one keeps quiet.

 

Trump admires Kim precisely because he has kept such a tight lid on that concentration camp of a country. Trump wishes he could control all of us like that.

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Trump is a treasonous traitor but his behavior just CONFIRMS what I've been trying to tell Black people for over a decade now....that racism has no loyalty to nationality or religion.

 

 

 

 


ProfD

 

Once Lil Kim is out of the way, North Korea  could either align themselves with South Korea or allow the US to set up their government, er, show them how to conduct free and fair elections and build a democracy. 

 

Once Lil Kim is out of the way.....they'll find ANOTHER ONE to take his place and keep going, lol.
Just like they found HIM after his father...they'll find ANOTHER after him.
 

What's going on in North Korea may seem harsh and insane to us, but it obviously works for them.
The nation appears to be strong, stable, and united...and contrary to Western propaganda it doesn't look like too many people are starving or homeless over there compared to the average major city in United States.

 

 

 


Michel Montvert

 

 

I don't feel that we can blame the people. Living under such a system, one is terrorized into submission. I've lived in such a country, where people are viciously abused yet the system grinds on decade after decade... When speaking out means a torture-death by machete, one keeps quiet.
 

Isn't this the way MOST societies were governed for the past 5 thousand years?
 

Who's to say so-called "Democracy" is the correct way and a Dictatorship isn't?

 

I'm not saying I'D rather live under a Dictatorship; just putting it out there as food for thought but which one makes more sense:
Letting the inmates run the asylum or having a warden with a dedicated staff keeping things firmly under control?

 


Believe it or not some societies NEED dictators to keep them under control.
So-called "freedom" (and I put it in quotes because there is no such thing as a free society) often leads to chaos, crime, and confusion for most people because most aren't mentally mature enough to handle it.


A strong-man knows how to keep the masses under control and working towards a goal.
This natural instinct among the masses was one of the appeals of Trump.

 

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@Pioneer1, that was the point of my post....North Korea is obviously fine with their conditions or they would have overthrown their dictator decades ago.

 

Same goes for Russsia and China and every other control ruled by dictatorship. These men control millions or a billion people.

 

But, it makes sense when viewed through the prism of a relatively homogenous country. As long as people have their basic needs met....freedom is relative. 

 

Democracy gives the illusion of freedom. All is takes is a step too close to the proverbial fence in order to test the limits of it. 😎

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ProfD

As of late, I've been maintaining that there really is NO SUCH THING as a "free society" and what we typically call "freedom" is just more "liberation".

I don't know if most people would really want to live in a truly FREE society anyway.

Free means NO RESTRICTIONS.
You're free to do whatever you can whenever you can.....no limitations except for your own personal desires and abilities.

The moment you add ONE rule or law written or unwritten....there goes your "freedom".

Do we REALLY want to live in that type of society?

NO laws or rules?


I suppose most Trump supporters would CLAIM to want this type of society, until they run out of bullets and realize human beings are smarter than the animals they were used to hunting when we had law and order....lol

 

 

 

Trump rally ends in anger, scuffle as protesters ignore COVID-19 rules


"Wait..you got me all wrong brother!

This isn't MY Trump flag.
 I took it off of some racist I came across on my way up here to show 
support for YOU people!

Let's all live together in peace and harmony brother!!"


 

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@Pioneer1, human beings would do just fine under natural law.

 

We don't walk into someone else's house and just start doing whatever we want unless there's a mental screw loose. That can be corrected too. 😁

 

Otherwisw, rules (laws) were constructed to dominate and control people. 

 

Freedom can be relatively broad. But, human beings really want fairness.

 

It's not about lawlessness...being able to do whatever one desires regardless of how it adversely affects fellow human beings. 

 

Fairness is having the right to equal access to opportunities to survive and thrive within a society.

 

It is also about justice....balance between all human beings. 

 

Democracy, dictatorship, socialism, communism, facism, etc., are words to describe how people are controlled. Fancy names for fences.😎

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ProfD

 

 

I'm of the belief...and I could be wrong....that most White people don't want fairness and justice when it comes to people of color and especially Black people.

 

They want freedom and justice for THEMSELVES, but as soon as you or I step into the room....rules, laws, restrictions, limits.

 

It's so funny that on most of the jobs I've been on that were all or almost all White (which were few)...I noticed that at the beginning when there are few Black employees...the rules were almost non-existent.

You just punch in on time, show up to work, do your job, and you were fine.

 

-1 hour lunch break and you can take it in the building, in your car, even leave and come back with your food.
-smoke breaks
-No dress code.

-Talk to whoever you want for however long you want as long as you're doing your job
Few restrictions as long as you coming to work and producing.
 

 

 

 

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"FREEDOM...YAAAAY!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

But as soon as you see a critical mass of niggaz bouncing in through the door grinning, then the RULES start coming down........

-You can't leave the property for lunch.
-You can't work overtime without permission.
-Breaks will now be down to a half hour instead of an hour.
-You can't talk to anyone while working.
-You can't wear this...you can only wear that.

-You can't talk religion
-You can't talk politics
-You have to meet the deadlines
-Sorry, no more pensions....only 401K
-Sorry, dental is no longer included.
-Not allowed to argue with the managers, that's insubordination
-If we catch you smoking too close to the door....that's grounds for termination

 

 

 

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"Those are the rules!
If you don't like them...TOUGH
Leave!"




Rule after rule after law after law...for OTHER PEOPLE.


Most White people don't seem to want for people of color the same benefits they want for themselves, so we can't expect to live in a fair and balanced society with them.

Laws would HAVE to be enacted and heavily enforced just to make them do right.

 

Infact, the Nation of Islam teaches that many of these scripture based religions were invented for White folks....to keep THEM in check.  Because they need an outside source or script to follow to keep them on the right path and give them a sense of correctness and morality.

Most African and Native American based religions DON'T have scriptures...because in our natural state we don't need them.

Like you said, we know right from wrong.

But obviously a lot of OUR people need a script to go by too, now a days.


 

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On 9/5/2022 at 2:09 PM, Pioneer1 said:


ProfD

 

 

I'm of the belief...and I could be wrong....that most White people don't want fairness and justice when it comes to people of color and especially Black people.

 

They want freedom and justice for THEMSELVES, but as soon as you or I step into the room....rules, laws, restrictions, limits.

 

It's so funny that on most of the jobs I've been on that were all or almost all White (which were few)...I noticed that at the beginning when there are few Black employees...the rules were almost non-existent.

You just punch in on time, show up to work, do your job, and you were fine.

 

-1 hour lunch break and you can take it in the building, in your car, even leave and come back with your food.
-smoke breaks
-No dress code.

-Talk to whoever you want for however long you want as long as you're doing your job
Few restrictions as long as you coming to work and producing.
 

But as soon as you see a critical mass of niggaz bouncing in through the door grinning, then the RULES start coming down........
 

I've seen this syndrome at work, it is true, you are right.

 

However, I cannot remember a job which was as you describe an all-white workplace. They treat white workers as powerless dependent and disposable drones. and those behaving otherwise are quickly replaced. We are not FREE on the job and likely haven't been for 4000 years.

 

But yeah, they make everything worse for non-whites. Like the Walmarts. Go to one where there are mostly whites and there are lots of cash registers open and inconspicuous security. Drive to the next town where everyone is Mexican and the Walmart has 2 cashiers working. and security visible and intimidating.

 

To see a more free workforce you'd really have to go to one of the developed nations, e.g. France, Singapore. Israel, Japan, Germany, Canada.

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On 9/5/2022 at 2:09 PM, Pioneer1 said:

I'm of the belief...and I could be wrong....that most White people don't want fairness and justice when it comes to people of color and especially Black people.

 

They want freedom and justice for THEMSELVES, but as soon as you or I step into the room....rules, laws, restrictions, limits.

Of course, that is one of the fundamental principles of racism white supremacy.  🤣

 

That's why I'm a huge proponent of AfroAmericans becoming self-sufficient.  Stop depending on White folks for everything especially employment.. 

 

Entrepreneurship provides one with the freedom to play by their own rules. 😎

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Michel  Montvert

 

 

To see a more free workforce you'd really have to go to one of the developed nations, e.g. France, Singapore. Israel, Japan, Germany, Canada.

 

I've been to France, Germany, and I used to go to Canada almost every weekend when I was younger so I know their work forces enjoy a better quality of employment from higher wages to safer working conditions to more vacations and breaks in general.

Plus, it is my understanding that in Canada and most Western European nations, they can't just fire you for any or no reason like most jobs can do in the United States.  They have to have a valid reason and go through all types of processes to fire you on just the menial of jobs.


Having been working since the 80s, I know that things USED TO be much better at work in the United States but after the Reagan Era things took a turn for the worse where the jobs became more demanding, safety standards started disappearing, and management became more authoritative.

But this goes back to what I was saying in the other thread about the poor people in the United States being the main causes of their own problems.
They ALLOWED this to happen without fighting back and demanding more pay, benefits, and respect from these employers

A few drug addicts standing on street corners with clipboards trying to get people to sign petitions to raise the minimum wage doesn't exactly count as a  "labor movement" if anyone asks me.


Petition drives possible, but "weird," organizers say

"Cuze me sir....urr you a rechizzer voter????"


(The fool was trying to say "Excuse me sir, are you are registered voter?" but he's high.)

 

 

 


ProfD

 

As is often the case with your posts....
I'm not sure there is much I can add on to what you just said.

All I can say is I agree 100%...lol.

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40 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

 


Having been working since the 80s, I know that things USED TO be much better at work in the United States but after the Reagan Era things took a turn for the worse where the jobs became more demanding, safety standards started disappearing, and management became more authoritative.

But this goes back to what I was saying in the other thread about the poor people in the United States being the main causes of their own problems.
They ALLOWED this to happen without fighting back and demanding more pay, benefits, and respect from these employers

A few drug addicts standing on street corners with clipboards trying to get people to sign petitions to raise the minimum wage doesn't exactly count as a  "labor movement" if anyone asks me.

Yes, how you describe the changes wrought by Reaganomics. And yes, we sure could use a real labor movement as in the 30s! We had a brief moment after WW2 when Unions were very strong and the people could have grabbed their freedom, but failed to perceive the game the system was playing on them. A real labor movement... oh yeah.

 

Reagan and Gingrich engineered and propagandized all these changes supposed to set us "free". convinced most whites that to be rightwing and pro-corporate was a good thing (what???) and off we go... at-will employment, goods produced in  Chinese sweatshops. white supremacists stirred up and mainstreamed. This stuff did not start with Trump. It is 42 years old.

1 hour ago, ProfD said:

Of course, that is one of the fundamental principles of racism white supremacy.  🤣

 

That's why I'm a huge proponent of AfroAmericans becoming self-sufficient.  Stop depending on White folks for everything especially employment.. 

 

Entrepreneurship provides one with the freedom to play by their own rules. 😎

Agreed though I'm a "leftist" and we generally go for institutional reforms, I also learned a lot of anarcosindicalismo in Spain which emphasizes local economy autonomy. The wealth of the community sustains the community's RIGHTS as well as its welfare, is the idea. Notice that since Reagan the rural white communities have also been gutted... rampant underemployment, lots of drugs, single parents, etc. Where there used to be locally owned businesses now are all corporate franchises. All of these communities of various ethnicities would benefit from the entrepreneurship and freedom of which you correctly speak. I hear NO politicians addressing this meaningfully. Neither Party is providing the infrastructural supporter which would facilitate all this. They continue to enable almost exclusively CORPORATIONS, NOT people.

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4 hours ago, Michel Montvert said:

Reagan and Gingrich engineered and propagandized all these changes supposed to set us "free".

 

This stuff did not start with Trump. It is 42 years old.

 

Where there used to be locally owned businesses now are all corporate franchises.

 

I hear NO politicians addressing this meaningfully. Neither Party is providing the infrastructural supporter which would facilitate all this. They continue to enable almost exclusively CORPORATIONS, NOT people.

Absolutely right.

 

The American middle class has been expanded and satiated just enough to roll with the program. Gross consumerism is the opiate that keeps it in check.

 

Working class and poor people don't stand a snowball's chance in h8ll of fighting an economic system totally stacked against them. 

 

Yet, we continue voting for these politicians who receive their campaign contributions from PACs that are funded by these big corporations and their lobbyists. Totally against our own best interests. 😎

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On 9/3/2022 at 5:31 PM, Pioneer1 said:

First Trump convinced his followers to support Russia.

NOW he's convinced yall to support the Communist regime of North Korea

What do have against peace in the world?

1 hour ago, ProfD said:

Working class and poor people don't stand a snowball's chance in h8ll of fighting an economic system totally stacked against them.

Why fight what you can master? Nobody keeps the working class from advancing in our society. 

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8 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

Why fight what you can master?

I love that!!!

In my opinion people fight because they have bought into the Hegelian dichotomy of fight or flight as though there are not other options. Only people who have achieved self mastery could consider mastering their opponent.

#ChessNotCheckers

#Mate

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16 minutes ago, Nnamdi Azikiwe said:

I love that!!!

In my opinion people fight because they have bought into the Hegelian dichotomy of fight or flight as though there are not other options. Only people who have achieved self mastery could consider mastering their opponent.

#ChessNotCheckers

#Mate

This pretends that no forces of oppression are arrayed against the people, which is of course an absolutely false assumption.

 

One's individual efforts are laudable, but when the system is stacked against you... then systemic remedies are required.

 

That means one does not sanely close one's eyes and pretend that society is just and functional.

 

Also, your comment regarding Hegel has nothing to do with Hegelian thought, which stipulates that a synthesis is achieved through the interaction of disparate forces. So... add struggle against injustice to injustice. and often a better result is the yield.

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And sadly too many Black people would rather TRY to pretend that racism is no obstacle or doesn't even exist rather than accept that it does and deal with it.

While conventional wisdom will say this comes from centuries of being trained and brainwashed into not seeing the racism that exists before us, I have a more simple yet more diabolical explanation.......

Many AfroAmericans simply DO NOT CARE about racism and how evil and widespread it is, as long as THEY don't feel THEY are personally being affected.

Like one of the other posters who came on here trying to rally support from this site for their own personal cause.
I'd be willing to bet 10 bits against a bucket of shit that the term "Institutional Racism" hasn't been uttered from their lips in 20 years and they could have given two fucks about what other Black people were going through from George Floyed to the janitor in the building they were working in.....as far as they are concerned it was "someone else's problem".  Or not even a problem at all.
Until THEY met some resistance or caught a mean look from a White person....then all of a sudden EVERYBODY is racist and we need to bring the whole system down, lol.

Like I said about the poor.........
In the United States, most poor people are in the condition they are because of THEMSELVES.
Not because they didn't work hard enough, invest smart enough, or save enough money.....but because they didn't unite with other poor people and DEMAND more money and benefits from the richest nation in the world.

Kanye said 400 years of slavery was a choice.
Man......
There was another person who said people get the leaders they deserve.

While neither statement is 100% true, there's a lot of WISDOM in these words if we'd just understand.


 

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