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Cynthia Erivo: Disgracing The Black Woman
aka Contrarian replied to Pioneer1's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
@Pioneer1You are incapable of self examination. Objectivity is a foreign concept to you. You are the victim of your ego. Also a loser. -
Different strokes for different folks
aka Contrarian replied to aka Contrarian's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
Neeley Fuller is obviously your god. His words are your gospel, his image your idol. Social media is multi-faceted, encompassing many subjects and issues. Using your methodology, it could also be an academy. -
Cynthia Erivo: Disgracing The Black Woman
Pioneer1 replied to Pioneer1's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
The ground only shakes when YOU come dancing through....lol. "If she makes the ground shake like that dancing BARE FOOT! .....I'm bettin' a pair of high heels would probably break the RICHTER SCALE!" ....lol. -
Cynthia Erivo: Disgracing The Black Woman
aka Contrarian replied to Pioneer1's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
And I made my position clear: "A capable man is not threatened by a woman." You're standing on shaky grounds. -
You can't speak for all black women. You don't know what their sentiments are when it comes to relationships with white men. As usual you're creating false or anecdotal scenarios. You just can't accept the idea that all black men are not better than all other men. Or that each interracial coupling has to be judged on an individual basis. You are a bigoted black supremist.
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ProfD You wonder why I have a "soft spot" for Africans? One of the reasons I'm so attracted to African women is because they exude natural femininity and shut down the disgraceful myth of the "strong masculine Black woman" that America has so celebrated for nearly 50 years. Through out much of America's history, they only wanted White women to be the standard of delicacy and femininity. They pushed the masculine role on to the Black woman, and many in our community actually embraced this nonsense. But African women come to America and no matter what they've seen and been through back home, they STILL have light voices and are very feminine and act like women. White men see this and many of them try to snatch them up and marry them. I've seen so many White men actually get angry, offended, and even defensive with Black American men OVER African women! Many of them act as if African women are THEIR women and Black men should stay away from them! When a woman ACTS like a woman....she makes a man want to ACT like a man. Now some will say, "A man shouldn't need a woman to make him act like a man....he should just naturally act like one". While this is true, some men...many men...need to be primed or encouraged into doing so. Whether they "should" or "shouldn't need this is a discussion unto itself, but the fact is many do....and if that's what it takes to force a generation of young men to get off their lazy ass and stop smoking the weed and get busy building....then that's what it takes! Let's be glad there IS a solution to the problem and then apply it.
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Cynthia Erivo: Disgracing The Black Woman
Pioneer1 replied to Pioneer1's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
You're correct to say " in other words".....because those words are OTHER than my own...lol. I didn't say this. I made my position crystal clear. -
Cynthia Erivo: Disgracing The Black Woman
aka Contrarian replied to Pioneer1's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
In others words, you're fine with women as long as they "stay in their place". One thing is sure; a capable man is not threatened by a woman. -
1. How are they "getting away" with something THEY usually don't initiate nor do they usually enjoy personally. I understand that much of the sexual contact between White men and Black women aren't forced or rape. I'm saying that White men tend to like and enjoy the very act itself far more than Black women do, who are usually doing it out of some sort of economic gain. 2. You don't know WHAT kind of harm it's doing to the community short term or long term for so many Black women to freely have sexual relationships with White men under this system. Many Black women will CLAIM the man they're with loves her, but slowly he starts introducing all kinds of freakish sexual themes into the relationship that goes against everything she was raised to value...and she accepts it. Then he starts being racist and talking racists...first about OTHER Black folks....then to her ABOUT her....and she accepts that too. Behaviors like this are common among Black women who involve themselves into relationships with White men. They may start off nice, sweet, and respectful but devolve into something grotesque and demonic. It reminds me of that movie Monster's Ball where Halle Berry ends up having sex with the same White man who is responsible for the death of her husband and son! "Go ahead...I'm listening. What else did they do???"
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Lol. Yes, I can.
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No it's not. Black women have always been able to get away with bed hoppin with white men. It's about you being as bigoted as those you oppose.
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It's not hypocrisy....it's simply a clear Double Standard. It's far more dangerous to themselves and the community for Black women to go around hopping in the bed with White men, than for Black men to do it with White women.
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Different strokes for different folks
Pioneer1 replied to aka Contrarian's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
How about this: Social Media IS a Religion Neely Fuller Jr. said that a "religion" is a strong belief backed up by action. Religion isn't necessarily what you CALL yourself or were born into. It's what you believe strongly AND do on a routine and regular basis. Many Italians may claim to be Catholic by the Mafia is their religion. Many Arabs may claim Islam but fighting and making war is their religion. Many people may claim to be Christian but racism is their religion. Likewise.... If you spend over 80% of your waking life on social media either publishing or watching and feel depressed when you don't have access to it, social media IS your religion. -
....cuz you can't read.
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Cynthia Erivo: Disgracing The Black Woman
Pioneer1 replied to Pioneer1's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
I don't want a society where women are second class citizens or not even considered citizens at all and are subordinate to men. I actually want a society where men and women are equal in rights, however the women are so feminine that they NATURALLY are less aggressive and less assertive than men so there is no need or desire for most men to try to "force" this on them. If you have to FORCE this on somebody, that means it's often unnatural for them to do. -
Cynthia Erivo: Disgracing The Black Woman
aka Contrarian replied to Pioneer1's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
You are obsessed with the preposterous idea of black women being turned into masculine beings. Something very unlikely to happen! All I is gotta say is why don't you relocate to the middle east where women are second class citizens, totally subordinate to their menfolk. That is what you truly envision as an ideal situation. Your exit would be good riddance. -
Cynthia Erivo: Disgracing The Black Woman
Pioneer1 replied to Pioneer1's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
aka Contrarian Watta crock. The only people masculinizing black women are triflin' black men who have forced them to play the "father" role for the children they make and desert. Was Cynthia knocked up by a triflin' Black man and abandoned? Was SHE forced to play "father" for a bunch of little kids? There are women in middle east and Afghanistan who grew up seeing all of the men of their village slaughtered. There are MILLIONS of women in the Middle East, Asia, and Africa who have had to raise children without a man in the home but they still retain their femininity. You don't see them walking around showing off their muscles. You don't see them getting tattoos all over their bodies. You don't see their voices getting deeper or them acting more aggressive or violent. Something is being done to the women HERE that is making them clearly more masculine than the women of other countries or cultures. Maybe the question is what is it about SOME women in America that is so unattractive and repulsive that would make a man want to leave them AND even any children they had with them, rather than do the instinctive thing and stay around. -
I aint readin all that crap. I don't agree with your usual whining about black men expecting from black women, what black women don't get from black men. Drone on.
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@Pioneer1Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course that would be your reaction. Totally inconsistent, however, with your bitter and biased attitude about Serena and Venus. Your "don't-do-as-I-do, do-as-I say-do" reeks with hypocrisy considering your resentment over their choosing white mates. I don't think I'm alone in taking the stance that Sherrone Moore should've known better since racism is so embedded in this country. He's paying the consequences of passing over black women. That's what you get!
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One of our rather more outspoken....lol...contributors, said in another discussion: "The only people masculinizing black women are triflin' black men who have forced them to play the "father" role for the children they make and desert." While that may SEEM to be a valid point on it's surface, I can't help but notice something when I meet women from other cultures............. I've seen women from the Middle East and Afghanistan who grew up seeing all of the men of their village slaughtered, sometimes in front of them. Very traumatic. Yet these women still have kept their femininity. There are MILLIONS of women in the Middle East, Asia, and Africa who have had to raise children without a man in the home but they still retain their femininity. -Yet you don't see them walking around showing off their muscles. -You don't see them getting tattoos all over their bodies. -Their voices aren't deeper. -You don't see videos of them balling up their fists and fighting at hamburger joints and family picnics or outside of gas stations. -They aren't "turning" Lesbian and claiming they gave up on men. No matter what they've gone through they still retain and maintain their femininity. Which tells me that something is being done to the women HERE that is clearly making many of them more masculine than the women of other countries or cultures. You can look at a lot of the little girls in school and how much they love fighting and talk about fighting to realize something is disturbingly wrong. I don't recall girls fighting this much at school or on the street when I was a kid. For decades we've talked about dead beat dads and why so many men have walked off from their own children and avoided their responsibilities. In the vast majority of the cases I personally know of....it wasn't the children or being forced to take care of them that was the problem; it was the baby mammas and the inability to get along with THEM that was the issue. Not saying the mothers were at fault for him abandoning her. I'm saying THEY COULDN'T GET ALONG...regardless as to WHO was at fault. So it wasn't the children, it was them being incompatible. Now, on the flip side of that..... I know more than a few Black men who had children by MULTIPLE American women and abandoned them and have little to do with their own children, yet got themselves foreign wives from other countries and not only stuck with those wives but had children with them and either raised or are raising those children! I'm not talking about mail order brides! I'm talking about women they said they met at school, at work, or on the street! In a few cases, some these same brothers met foreign women WITH children who were not their own! And married these women and helped them raised these children! I'm going to say (type....lol) that again: Some of the SAME Black men who had children by multiple women and abandoned THOSE women and children, actually met women from other countries WITH children and took on the responsibility not only of marriage but raising THOSE children as their own! So perhaps the question would have to be.... What is it about SOME of our women here in America that is so frustrating or repulsive that a man would rather get with women from outside his own culture and raise HER children, rather than stick with the women of his own culture and raise his own children?
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Different strokes for different folks
aka Contrarian replied to aka Contrarian's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
Just because a person is always on their phone, doesn't mean they're on social media. They could be scrolling through YouTube like you guys who place sooo much reliance on the videos you post to illustrate your points. They could be watching porn, or reading an E-Book, or, like me, playing card games and watching music videos and reels featuring people like Neil de grasse Tyson breaking down complicated concepts like quantum physics, or clips of BEAR game highlights, or computer-generated trips through the universe, or arguing on forums with people of different political persuasion. When it's winter and you're house bound, your computer devices and TV are what help chase away boredom, and are your windows to the world ,- rather than an altar where you worship. -
I don't know what kind of relationship he had with his White wife. They may have had an "open" relationship where she knew and allowed for him to cheat, I don't know one way or the other. It's not a matter of empathizing with or having sympathy for him, it's about the double standard that this society in general has for powerful Black men and powerful White men. If this Black man was married to a Black woman and cheated on her with a Black woman who worked there, the University probably would have never fired him. Even if he had broke into the woman's house later and threatened to kill her or himself with a knife, it probably would have barely made headlines. But the firing AND the publicity is done strategically to "scare" Black men away from sexual relationships with White women by publicly humiliating him. I won't call it a lynching but I will call it a public humiliation done for racist puposes.
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Cynthia Erivo: Disgracing The Black Woman
aka Contrarian replied to Pioneer1's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
@Pioneer1Watta crock. The only people masculinizing black women are triflin' black men who have forced them to play the "father" role for the children they make and desert. It makes no sense that black women would be singled out by a magazine, as a group to be masculinized. The LBGTQ commuity, made up of people from all ethnicities, doesn't need any outside help to increase its ranks. The trend toward sexual fluidity is evolving on its own as time brings change. Go crawl back down your rabbit hole. -
Whatever. I have no sympathy for a married man with kids and a good job and respected reputation who throws it all away to sneak around with another woman. He brought his fall from grace on himself. Tough shit. You and all your warped rationales can't change the fact he let his penis do the thinking. Something I'm not surprised you'd empathize with.
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aka Contrarian Oh...... Did he fire himself from the University? Did he arrest and lock himself up? Did he volunteer for his pictures and this story to make headlines across the nation? Right or wrong, he was a heterosexual man BEING/ACTING like a heterosexual man. The only part he did wrong...IMO...was showing up at that girl's house and threatening her.
