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  2. Melanin and Money

    @Pioneer1 Huh?
  3. The New Religion

    We are in agreement. You make odo statements. @Troy
  4. I discovered this video reading an article about Vertamae Smart-Grosvenor on Munchies I'm still listening to it -- not even halfway through (Nikki Giovanni just read a poet to and for Lena Horne and they just started a conversation. This is just a great video featuring different Black women in conversation, singing, dancing, poetry -- a terrific compilation and demonstrates why we need Black media. The following a from the video description on Youtube: Inspired by the book by Chester Higgins, this special episode of Black Journal features a discussion between Joan Harris, Vertamae Grosvenor, Martha Davis, Marian Watson and Amma Baraka. A separate conversation between Nikki Giovanni and Lena Horne. Poetry by Giovanni, Sonia Sanchez and Kali. Plus performances by Roberta Flack, Loretta Abbott and Novella Nelson. Interview with Albert Cleage, Jr. of the Black Madonna Church. Executive Produced by Tony Brown. Directed by Stan Lathan.
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  6. http://www.okayplayer.com/culture/ryan-coogler-michael-b-jordan-reteam-wrong-answer-movie.html Cogler and Jordan plan on doing a movie about the richest man in history http://thesource.com/2018/02/19/ryan-coogler-and-michael-b-jordan-wants-to-bring-mansa-musa-to-the-big-screen/ These two Brothers know how to work the system. So now the next couple of movies are more realistic based on their success with Black Panther. You ring the register the studio let's you make a smaller movie. Although based on the success of their previous collaboration they may get an epic budget. So if they do a small budget film that does box office. They can make an epic film. Not because it's the right thing to do but because it's a good investment.
  7. Only snippets, but I know how it ends.
  8. The New Religion

    You did @Troy I agree the statement is bizarre. And you made it first. The beauty though is that you didn't see your post right above mine. Clarity indeed.
  9. The Science Delusion

    Your not understanding me isn't a function of my writing. Does anyone write with perfect clarity and fidelity. That statement by you is symptomatic of our communication problems. You make some gross generalizations. Like saying an opinion is wrong. A science as a society is different from society. If I call you on it you get defensive. Sometimes you come across authoritative. Maybe that's just my perception.
  10. The Science Delusion

    Perhaps, but it seems unlikely. Del do you believe you write with perfect fidelity and clarity at all times?
  11. @Cynique the people who create movies and build the hype behind them are really very good at what they do. This more than anything else explains why people are in a frenzy over the fictional country of Wakanda rather than Tulsa Oklahoma. The marketers who get us all hyped about a film could use this talent to generate hype over actual Black history, which in my opinion is far more fascinating, but uplifting people is not as lucrative as selling movie tickets. @Delano, Have you seen the film?
  12. The New Religion

    Pioneer you know Black people invented science. Why do you insist on making it a western presumably European thing? Also don't confuse science with it practitioners. Science is a monolith, but there are practitioners who are liars and would pervert science to their own purposes. People do the same thing with religion. Voodoo and science can coexist it does not have to be science. Why make it an either/or proposition? Del, your question, "Does that mean Christians can't be mathematicians? Since reliqion and science are incompatible" is almost bizarre. Who said religion and science are incompatible? Of course a Christian can be a mathematician, but who was talking about Christians and Mathematicians?! Again that was a very odd question...
  13. The Science Delusion

    If someone else understand what I wrote and you don't .Then perhaps it is not my inability to communicate...
  14. https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/02/angela-bassett-black-panther-911-interview Have a read
  15. The Science Delusion

    @Delano as previously mentioned the time I spent talking to you here was invested in an attempt to work on communicating with you more effectively. Communication seems to break down whenever you think I disagree with you. No I did not create my own search engine, I simply configured a product that Google used to sell. Regarding Zaji understanding you, I dunno she understood my request straight away... I guess I could ask you the same question Maybe Zaji can serve as our interpreter :-) @zaji, I appreciate that whenever you get a chance is fine--thanks!
  16. Melanin and Money

    Mel What's with you and all this "Black women gotta do this" and "Black women gotta do that" ????? Are you and Michelle Obama trying to get together and start your own Black Girls Rock Amazon tribe.....lol. Also if we chose not to work for corporations but instead grew and produce raw materials, assembled products and sell wholesale to large corporations. Becoming producers would allow us leverage. We'd absolutely have to function as a monolith to make that happen. I don't think we have to be a monolith as a community to make this happen. We have so many Black people in America that even if just 10% of Black people agreed to work together to produce our own food and assemble our own products that would still be 4 to 5 million people....which is more than enough to do it. Elijah Muhammad with the Nation of Islam grew their own food, made their own clothes, and ran their own stores and restaurants with less than 1 million members in the entire organization. Infact, look at the Amish and what they're able to accomplish with their minimal numbers. Our biggest problem is that the SMARTEST of Black people too often would rather take their intelligence and talents and negotiate a pay check from White people to help build White society INSTEAD OF staying in their own communities and using those same talents to build up Black America. As far as wealth is concerned, however, we don't have leverage. We spend a lot of money but we own next to nothing. Black wealth is near zero percent here in America. Less than 1 percent of Black-American families have a net worth of 1.4 million. According to an article I read, 98 percent of available land is owned by white families. You have an excellent point about the available land mostly owned by White families, however this is where the more CONSERVATIVE side of me comes out. While I don't disagree with anything you said, I will say this. When we speak of wealth, White people didn't get their wealth from the moon. Besides the land they took from the Native Americans and the labor they forced Black people to engage in....they basically MADE THEIR OWN WEALTH and gave it value by working dilligently in their own economic system. Black people are going to have to learn that real wealth isn't GIVEN...it's PRODUCED. Going to work for Google and getting a $2,000 a week pay check from them isn't wealth. If I get a plot of land and plant 1500 banana trees.....those bananas are WEALTH. The land it's own is WEALTH. The money I get from selling them is WEALTH. It's not really wealth if someone else controls it's distribution and flow; it's not really wealth until YOU have a measure of control over it. In other words, Black people need to stop waiting on White people to GIVE them loans, grants, and a template or framework in which to acquire wealth and instead use our own creativity and what we already have at our disposal to start generating it among ourselves.
  17. The New Religion

    Troy What?! Your categorization of science is completely wrong @Pioneer1. Science, unlike the world's great religions, would change a belief tomorrow if new information was presented that proved the current belief false. You speak as if the scientific community is a monolith. There are many conflicting and contradicting positions WITHIN Western science. You see this with BIG PHARMA all the time where certain drugs are deemed safe now but were considered dangerous in the past....only because there wasn't much money to be made or some politician didn't receive a big enough bribe to vote for it. So this so-called "science" changes based not only on new information but fresh money....lol.   Indeed, it is often religion that holds science back, even killing people for speaking the truth because it conflicts with religious doctrine. This practice continues to this day. I'd even argue that religion holds back spirituality. Some religions may hold people back spiritually but science tends to rob them of their spirituality ALL TOGETHER. Keep in mind that when I say "science" I'm not talking about KNOWLEDGE in general from where the word supposedly got it's name from; I'm talking about that general body of information that has been ordained as acceptable by the majority of Western institutions. There is a lot of truth and wisdom and knowledge in Voodoo....but it's not accepted as "science". There is a lot of truth, wisdom and knowledge in Native American, African, and ancient Asian culture and belief systems.....but the knowledge they offer is not accepted as part of official "science". People all around the world for millions of years and more have believe in spirits and souls, but because Western scientists claim they can't test it in a laboratory....they don't consider it part of "science". As far as many in Western academia are concerned, if it didn't come from a White man in a white coat with glasses....it must not be true, lol. If any religion is guilty of holding people back spiritually, it's the organized religion of WESTERN SCIENCE.
  18. Actually Troy.....

    So basically you've decided to: -IGNORE everything I said in my previous post...... -PUT WORDS into my mouth and attribute to me a position that I've never taken..... -then proceed to argue against that position and claim victory? OK..... Lol....shame, shame, shame.
  19. Melanin and Money

    Yes and no. We'd have leverage if we stop spending and borrowing. Also if we chose not to work for corporations but instead grew and produce raw materials, assembled products and sell wholesale to large corporations. Becoming producers would allow us leverage. We'd absolutely have to function as a monolith to make that happen. As far as wealth is concerned, however, we don't have leverage. We spend a lot of money but we own next to nothing. Black wealth is near zero percent here in America. Less than 1 percent of Black-American families have a net worth of 1.4 million. According to an article I read, 98 percent of available land is owned by white families. So, if we were to grow our own food or raise cattle or dairy cows we wouldn't have enough land to allow our animals to graze or provide them enough water. So, monetarily, if we were a country - we'd be a poor country with a lot of debt. Democratic capitalism isn't working for black folks as a whole here in America or elsewhere . Aside: I've pulled this information before when looking at the state of black women. Here's a link to an article that shares a lot of the stats I've read in the past.
  20. The New Religion

    http://www.nytimes.com/1993/07/25/books/how-to-think-about-science.html
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  22. The New Religion

    Does that mean Christians can't be mathematicians? Since reliqion and science are incompatible Isaac Newton was the last Magician/Scientist or it became less popular to openly be both. Do you realise how wrong you are. I'll give you some time to see if you can work it out.
  23. ...well it is an old book that was never published. I had not heard a peep about this book before last night, when I discovered it trolling for interesting books on my distributors website. Barracoon: The Story of the Last “Black Cargo” by Zora Neale Hurston is a never-before-published but which tells the story of a Brother you endured the middle passage -- yes the Middle Passage! He was kidnapped from African 50 years after the practice was outlawed and enslaved in the American south... those slavers really were devils huh?
  24. Yes which is why drugs and alcohol are popular. "Reality Is For People That Can't Handle Drugs Group" David Foster Wallace Infinite Jest pg 707
  25. Yes, the reality is bitter, but it's not as if the alternative to this bitterness is an historic reality. It's just a delusion.
  26. Wow I cannot believe this... this is just an indication that were doing the right thing!
  27. Because the reality is bitter. And not everyone likes the Blues. Because the reality is bitter. And not everyone likes the Blues.
  28. Yes, this movie is "escapism", - which, incidentally, is not a synonym for "cathartic". Just read an interesting take on this film wherein the writer suggested the the villain was actually the hero in this movie His rebelling against being disinherited by the establishment and denied his status is who black Americans should be identifying with; not the affluent, powerful king of a high tech society. i have yet to understand why black Americans are so frantic to kick their indigenous history to the curb in favor of a fictional kingdom that never existed anywhere on the African continent. Black Wall Street and other thriving independent black communities like the section in Brooklyn which was plowed under to make way for Central Park, Eatonville, Florida, the idyllic all-black home town of Zora Neale Hurston, and Rosewood, Florida, are just 3 noteworthy historical examples of what black folks were capable of doing, much to the chagrin of the white forces that destroyed them. Something akin to mass hysteria has infected the black community to the "Ka-Ching" of Black Panther's producers. But, i don't really perceive this as harmful. It's a feel-good movie. So be it.
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