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The Deliverance reviewed by Movies That Move with by Nike Ma side ZenobiaVideo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWK-BlBrNgUMy comment to the video
Zenobia in the house!) nice chester shirt Nike
Her is some great trivia, Glen Close has in her contract she gets to keep wardrobes from her films:)
I love her quote about winning an Oscar
"I remember being astounded that I met some people who were really kind of almost hyper-ventilating as to whether they were going to win or not, and I have never understood that. Because if you just do the simple math, the amount of people who are in our two unions, the amount of people who in our profession are out of work at any given time, the amount of movies that are made every year, and then you're one of five [nominees]. How could you possibly think of yourself as a loser?"
[ https://www.voanews.com/a/oscar-nominees-mingle-share-excitement-138820984/165131.html ]
Glenn Close is a stage person too so she is used to performing in various genres but stage gives you experience in acting in group unselfishness
thanks for the dual interpretation of the documentary compared to the film.
What you lived in an old scary house with Zenobia? what:) haha
haha Zenobia does not do chopping and slicing:) hahaha
the girl with all the gifts who has a Hannibal lector mask:)In Amendment
I saw glenn close in finding your roots, outside of glenn close wanting to work and get paid, i think this is the first film where glen close is playing aside a mostly black cast and it is interesting and in her role, very uncommon character. I think she loved the idea of the character she played which is rare, the only character I can think near her's is the white woman in hustle and flow with the cornrowls
https://ok.ru/video/5028291676922My Thoughts to the video
4:52 that captivates me, Glen Close plays a white woman who ... adores the black form:) she is a good thespian in all earnest. Her performances in fatal attraction , the natural, house of spirits, the paper, i enjoyed each character, a different female
5:40 great point about how the family didn't want people who looked like them in the play.
33:41 the documentary is powerfulTranscript
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but let's start at the beginning and tell you who did it who did it this was
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directed by Lee Daniels um you'll remember him from precious and the
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butler he co-wrote this with Elijah bam and David
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cogshell um this movie came out in August it had a limited release in
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theaters and then it was put on Netflix you can still watch it now if you hav't
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don't be scared don't be scared just go watch it it's actually I think an
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interesting story from a religious perspective um we'll talk about that a
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little later but um this was inspired by the story of Latoya
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Ammons she rented a house in Gary Indiana and shortly after she rented the
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house strange things started happening um she moved in in 2011 with
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her mom and her three kids and after moving in um there was a lot of
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unexplainable things like the very first thing and you see this in the movie as well they had an infestation of
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flies in the dead of winter now normally if you got flies
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something done die and the the the Flies are having a feast but in the winter
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time it's hard to pull that one off um and this was happening on their front
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porch um the kids were behaving strangely they were talking in strange
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voices um they said the kids were levitating um speaking a different
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language that the mother couldn't understand the neighbors thought the kids were being abused and
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contacted the authorities um at a certain point the authorities did removed the kids from
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the home her kids were taken from her without court order social worker was
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involved with all of that um and in 2012 a local priest performed an exorcism on
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the kids in I believe um Latoya we just finished watching the
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documentary about it also and details between all of this are are tiny bit
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sketchy um they moved out of that house in
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2012 they moved what was it 100 miles away Indianapolis in Indianapolis they
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were like we're out we want nothing to do with it um anybody who's been in that
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house they are like we're not dealing with you because you probably have that
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Spirit on you and we're not doing it again they were absolutely terrified by what happened
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I'm going to tell you about that as well when we start talking about the documentary so this story is a little
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bit different it doesn't happen in Gary Indiana it takes place in Pittsburgh
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Pennsylvania um and same setup three
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kids the daughter and her mother which the mother is played by Glen Close and
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let me tell you something Glenn Close played the mess out of a white woman
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who's down with the swirl I I I would love to know what
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research she did to get the whole thing together cuz when I tell you she played
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the mess out of it she played the mess out of it okay I also want to know like
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what made them cast her when you're good you're good
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plain and simple when you're good cuz it's not even that she like I think she did a great great great job it was just
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like as I'm watching it I'm like how did this happen like what she like what did they like what made them make the
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decision to go with like uh a white character I I'm like you I'm wondering
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if they wrote it in that way just to honestly you know especially if the
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family kind of said look we want to huge separation from our likeness like I
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don't know but again it worked but it was just kind of like yeah when it came out I was like but why but but you know
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what I didn't even think about that I was like dang because the dynamic between her and Andre day who played um
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ebony the daughter mhm it was awesome yeah it was really it awesome it was
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believable but close is like it like she is a great actress youall ever watch
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Fatal Attraction you know I need you to calm down for a minute she she did that
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that's all I'm saying like she did that okay but but in saying that you know when people start talking about okay who
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are the great ones her name is most definitely on the list and the thing I love about
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um seeing her with people who are considered newer in the industry like
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Andra day um she doesn't take away from their shine yeah she yeah you know and
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it it's it's nice to see that they could kind of I'm not even going to say
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balance each other but just that they had that Dynamic and energy and I've seen her do that um in one other movie
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with a kid and it's like people are like yo for that kid to stand beside her
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and you know hold her own that's awesome MH and yes it is but I also think it's
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because on screen she's not a selfish selfish actress I'll say it that way and
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we'll be watching the movie I'm talking about next week later for that but um
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yeah Glen Glen Close played the mother Alberta Andre day played ebony Nate
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which you'll remember him from uh stranger things stranger things was played by Caleb
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mlin um Andre who is the other main
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character in this story was the youngest son he was played by Anthony B Jenkins
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Shante Demi Singleton she plays the only
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daughter um and then there was Cynthia played by none other than MO
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and then Apostle Apostle Bernice James was played by Anan Ellis
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Taylor okay so you got a great cast here and again when you start talking about
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um kids who play their role well um Anthony did the darn thing yeah
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got to give him his props on this because he played the role of a
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possessed child really well really well and honestly just a child in general
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because I even see like in other movies that I watched I've just always seen like sometimes when the kids
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act it it doesn't come off as like believable or like genu like it doesn't
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just mesh into the movie it's kind of like okay yeah they're a child actor and this is like probably their first or
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second movie and like you know know it's cute but like it's just like we can tell your no but that's I mean for anybody
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it's challenging to go back and forth between being the character the um
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innocent child shifting evil character and then just
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shifting back to innocent and he was real smooth he was really good with it um the if the movie
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followed if followed the big details of what happened with LaToya ammon's move
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into a house social workers checking in in the
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story um L um not Latoya ebony is separated from her husband he's trying
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to take the kids she's had alcohol and drug problems she's taking care of her
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mother um who has cancer and there's tension between her and her mother her
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mother recently found Christ is going to church you know Jesus Jesus Jesus is her
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thing but even her mom has that similar thing where she was on
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drugs she was on alcohol she was abusive to her daughter but she's
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changed her daughter is taking care of her because it's a responsibility but
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she said to her mother several times I haven't forgotten anything that you did
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to me so I bring all of that up to talk about things that will wake
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up in this case a demon um and for those of you who are
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religious you you you get where I'm going and for those of you who are spiritual yeah you get it too because we
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talk about good energy being positive what you give
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is what you get and while this family wasn't um they weren't a bad family they
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weren't bad people they were stressed there was a lot of stress and
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tension and that type of energy will feed and it was just like there was a
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lot of um there was a lot of past trauma and just negative things that have not
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been worked out right and when you're talking about spirituality like when there's a negative energy there's going
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to be negative things that feed off of that which a demon would be the perfect like oh okay yeah they have this energy
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going on I'm going attach myself to it so there's something for me to feed on
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um now the landlord in real life claimed never had
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anything like this happen before I don't know what they talking about I don't know what they could be
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talking about and so um we'll we'll switch up
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now to the to the real story um I'm not going to tell you how it ends in the
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movie cuz it ends differently than it did in real life a little bit but I'll say this um
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ebony like Latoya did get her kids back they moved out of the home and set up
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somewhere far away to not deal with those things
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anymore not far enough in my opinion oh what you want them to move to another
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planet it would have been across the country if it was
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me all right so one of the things that we did because y'all know me I um I take
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notes and there was a documentary that was also done about this and we watched
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maybe half of it m yeah I couldn't take it anymore yeah um so the guy who did
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the documentary his name is Zach bin and if any of you watch the Travel Channel
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um like I do um and I do watch the Paranormal stuff I think it's kind of
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cool I refuse to watch him absolutely not under no
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circumstances because he doesn't just deal with ghost ghost are easy you walk
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in you talk to them they say get out you leave
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straightforward but he likes to go in and confront demons so he will go into a
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space that people have said listen I was tossed around like a rag doll um something was speaking to me and
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I didn't get it I woke up and I had slashes all over me he will go into that
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space and go oh you want to mess with people huh huh come do it to me and then
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he'll walk out with a demon attached to him get exercise and then go back and do the same thing again that's a definition
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of crazy to me I don't go out of my way to watch him because he did the
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documentary on this film and he went to Great Lengths to get this story so that he
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could do the documentary um we're going to talk about
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him and things that happened after Latoya and her family left
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Dodge okay so what he did he bought the
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house he bought the house at the time he bought the house
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there were squatters living there they claimed
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initially paranormal what what you mean we a nothing happened here no sir but you want us to leave and you GNA pay us
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to get out let us pack these bags up now he ended up speaking with the
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boyfriend away from the rest of the family okay the boyfriend meaning co-
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squatter and this guy started spilling his guts and saying there's something in that
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house if you pay me all the money first we come to an agreement I will tell you everything you need to know which to
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some might sound a little suspect but being that there were two other families
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that lived in that house that has similar experiences I kind of don't blame the dude for saying money then
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conversation um the family that lived there previously that actually rented
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previously um they came back to the house they walked through the woman brought her
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three kids and it's on video she's she never liked to go in
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the basement where the root of the activity
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was she went down in the basement with the crew with her kids and Zach asked
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her he was like you did you said you didn't come down to the basement you
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don't like it she said no my was it her brother or her brother her brother lived in the basement when
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she lived there with her mom and her kids and she
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said he died while we were living here find out that he was
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killed I don't think it was anything where he was legally involved anything
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he was coincidentally shot um she said there were some strange things you know
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you you would hear footsteps through the house where when it made no sense for
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footsteps to be in the house while they were in the house and she's talking to
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Zach nobody else is talking everyone's listening he asked her a question she
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responded and on the recording you could hear another voice [Music]
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okay um they went back they actually had to hunt
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down Latoya and her family Latoya would say oh yeah yeah
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I'll talk to you never called him back never made time to speak with him he
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found her house she would not come to the door her
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brother said I'll talk to you went back to Gary went to the house with
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him started explaining the things that he witnessed in the
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house and when he got done talking to Zach and tried to get back into the
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place where he lived with his sister and Mom his sister said absolutely not
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depart from me Satan get the behind don't come back here because you might
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have something on you okay Zach said he had to fire
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members of his crew after one incident and the actual incident is
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recorded on surveillence he started Zach started
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shoving members of his team around while they were inside the house they had just
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put up a little altar okay so you think you put up an altar you pray over it you got your
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candles your incense whatever it is that should keep things come nope that Spirit
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jumped on him he started getting violent and they had trouble convincing
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him to come out of the house right after that incident one of the crew members
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quit he said I'm done not doing this with you the police officer who was
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investigating the case when Latoya was was there he came back to the house to
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interview and what was it 2 weeks later he said mhm 2 weeks later this man
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slipped on ice he said both feet came up from him he went up about 3 feet in the air landed on his
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head couple of weeks after that he was shot so it's like everybody that came to
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the house something crazy happened the previous family that rented before
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Latoya um I mentioned to you that the lady brought her three kids while they
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were in the house again talking with Zach her son walked by her and stood on
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the other side of one of the daughters there's nobody behind her her knee
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buckled and she looks at her son and said why' you kick me nobody kicked her and they they
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slowed it down and showed you what was happening at the moment nobody kicked her and and whatever she felt it didn't
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just feel like oh I'm losing my balance she she felt the hit well what happened
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in the weeks after that is one of her
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daughters was just acting strange even while they were in the house the daughter was like kind of going in and
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out you could see her face would go blank and then she would answer a question and then her face would go
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blank again she the mother called Zach frantic and
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said I just got a call from my mom my daughter was at homecoming I don't know what happened and we're at the hospital
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the girl tried to unal Alive herself she was sitting and stabbing herself in both
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wrists with a pen and um it's what they call was it
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Stig Stigmata I think that's what it's called stigmata which is basically where people
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try to where people will harm themsel
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like in in this the fashion of the crucifixion so you'll have marks in your
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wrist you'll have marks in your feet as though you were spread out on the cross
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like Christ um they got her after she was all
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patched up and they asked her what happened and she said I don't remember I
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don't remember what happened and in that moment talking to her she was she seemed like she was
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fine so they went to the same priest that exercised Latoya Ammons and her family
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and he performed an exorcism on the girl and they had the camera watching her and
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she's sitting there and the pastor is reading off scripture and telling her
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you know this is not you the demon has to come out in the name of Jesus and she's
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sitting there and her hands are going like this and then all of a sudden she
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just kind of no one's touching her no one's around her and the pastor says that was the
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moment that the demon left if you believe that stuff you do if
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you don't you don't um if you're the type that leaves in
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rebuking and calling things out in the name of Jesus and telling it to leave
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this was that moment okay like I said we didn't finish watching it but he ran
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down Zach ran down a list of everything that happened to people
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who had any kind of contact with this
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house people got sick people were un
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alived just anything that you can think of running the gamut okay he said he was
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sick for 8 days at one point dealing with this house once he completed the
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documentary he bulldozed the house that's how bad things were both
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bulldo the house so nobody else could live there I don't know if he still owns that plot of land or what but he said
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that neighbors still report that there are some strange things happening around
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that property and at the time that he was trying to do the
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documentary he found out that part of the reason why Latoya didn't want to talk to him was because she was in talks
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with a producer about doing a film based on her
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story don't know who that was he didn't name it I'm not making assumptions that
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this is the same movie so in a nutshell these are the
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things that happen based on real events people after the fact getting involved
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had some similar experiences with the spirit demon
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that lived in that house so that being said zeny what talk to me about some of
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your thoughts overall about the
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movie um bulldozing should have happened years ago that's what I'm going to start
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off with but no um I just feel like it does remind me of um some other movies
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one that really stuck out to me was it kind of reminded me of
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us because there's a scene which I'm not going to give it away but there is a scene where the main character is kind
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of having to face herself at a certain point and if anybody has watched us
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there's a point where in the beginning of the movie and at the end of the movie where she's having to deal with herself
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so even though I think it's coming from like a different context like a context where you know in this film they're
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dealing with demon versus kind of like a parallel universe it's still kind of like giving the vibe
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of like you're having to face yourself to overcome something right um another
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thing that I noticed in the movie was there's a lot of symbolism MH there's a part where basically like she's in the
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process of getting this demon out and she's going into the basement with her
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flashlight because it's dark now of course this is where this demonic being is is
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living um you know that's associated with Darkness but you know of course she's
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trying to go in with the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ himself and get this thing
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out she has the flashlight and the flashlight Shines on uh a angel figurine mhm and that
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moment it kind of just like signaled like God is with you no matter what right now in the real events remember
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they talked about the first time the police went to the house that they had
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some they had Crosses by the front door and all types of things to kind of
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protect the house yeah so yeah there were things like that there were a couple of jump scares when you start
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talking about movie tropes there were a couple of jump scares um there was the
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final girl Trope because Andre day was the one who was left standing to deal
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with that demon so she was it if she didn't survive it that was she she was
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the final girl the typical dark and stormy night there were certain scenes
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where um things were happening or about to happen in that dark and stormy night
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was the foreshadowing uh something that we saw last week in
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parallel the bird flying into the window the crow flying into the window that
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happened early in the movie and that symbolizes change whether good or bad
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when you see the crow flying into a or a bird flying into a window that's the symbol right there
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don't push it foot um the other what was the other one there was they did bring
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up the bird again when they had to take the little boy to a therapist to figure out out what was going on mhm and they
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showed him a picture of the the crow I'm not going to spoil it but they showed the picture of The Crow and she kind of
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asked like what he thought it meant and he related it to events in the house
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right so it's like stuff like that there was just like a lot of to me a lot of symbolism and stuff like that going on
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the subtle one was the train horn in one scene um and I didn't jot it
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down in my notes but I did look it up and basically that also is a
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foreshadowing that danger is coming M and yes shortly after that scene that
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makes sense that's what happened um but overall I think the movie was a good
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interpretation of the real events um I think this is a lot
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milder than a lot of horror stories out there you know there were a couple of
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bloody scenes but it wasn't it wasn't anything it wasn't Gore put it like that at least to me it
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wasn't it wasn't Gore um the things that were going on based on the story made
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sense it wasn't even as much of a like Thriller for me mhm where like stuff is
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just popping out every five minutes it wasn't really like that either right you know it was really okay something here
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is strange we don't know what it is but we black so we ain't investigating it
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either like there was one part where uh ebony was like okay I got to go
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downstairs and see what's going on and she's standing there but she was
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like yeah know I I know something's weird down there but N I think I don't think I'm going to go down there this
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one is hollering go downstairs and I'm like girl she black well she's not going
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to do that there was a scene where during the day like she felt something was off in the basement she's outside in
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the backyard and she's like there's what do they call that the doors for the out
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I forget what they call the doors but it's like slanted and it opens this way and then you can walk you can walk down
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to the basement from outside so I'm sitting here like all her kids are home it's
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daylight I'm going to go down there and find out what's going on because I have an infestation in my house where is this
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coming from that's my thought process now at night absolutely not I'm not going in no basement L let me tell you
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what sis did she called a professional to go down there and figure
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out what was going on which is what I would have done cuz remember we lived in that old house neither one of us was a
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fan of the basement nope okay old house stone wall like Cobblestone wall no no
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and that's where the laundry room was I started taking my stuff to the laundry mat
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because scary wasn't feeling it so um I think overall a good interpretation of
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real events without um without being so exact M
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about every detail the one character who you saw her turn around was Monique's
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character the social worker um oh gosh what what was the character name again
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Cynthia Cynthia was a jerk okay put it plain and simp
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she walked in she was like you drinking you still
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smoking mhm yeah you still drinking and smoking was going through the mother's medication dropping it on the floor and
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I wanted to punch her in the throat I'm not going to lie because she was annoying she was disrespectful but by
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the end once she witnessed what was actually
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happening she had some sympathy just a little bit but she had
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some sympathy and was like all right I know this wasn't you being drunk or high
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while these things were happening because I saw it and I know I wasn't drunk or high so I'm going to help you
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get your kids back mhm so and you know I
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think Mo'Nique did look you can't complain you can't complain about Monique's acting CH yeah
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she's a great actress um so all in all I think if you like the horror
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genre this is up your alley check it out um if you're going to go so far as to
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watch the documentary about this do it during the daytime have Siege
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and holy water and anointing oil cuz I will be saving myself later and we didn't even
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watch the whole thing but we were sitting here like and it's crazy cuz it draws you in like it is interesting to
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like find out all these things that were going on but yeah it just scares me it's like if all this was happening to these
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people by just like because you see it really happening and again knowing the
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history of oh what was his name Zack beIN knowing the history again used to
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watch him all the time and be unfazed and then I grew up and realized oh snap he's really that that really did jump on
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him um knowing that he goes all
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in and seeing the things that happen just in that that first
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half yeah you may if you're going to watch the documentary heck watch it outside don't even watch it in the
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house watch it outside but um yeah I think this one is is a good one if
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you're into horror if you're into
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um oh what is it I don't want to say reality but like based on true events
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yeah like documentaries bio or bio I I think you'll you'll enjoy this
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one m so um you got anything else you want to add Omar
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EPS Omar EPS was was Alberta's nurse oh
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yeah okay that I'm not going to say that was the comic relief but that was the my God
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it can't be serious no there comic Rel I mean there was a there was some funny parts but that whole
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relationship had me like this can't be real this can't be
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real but it was like it worked I don't know it just worked anyway again you know you got to give Omar EPS been in it
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for a while he played the the role of nurse
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well and then Glenn Close what you you have to see it to to to to
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get it but I was like oh my darn did they wow they really just did
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wow okay okay I ain't mad at either one of them exactly I wasn't expecting that
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either I I wasn't and mind you I sat here and watched it twice
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so that was not exp so all right anything else from you ma'am no I think
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it was a really really good movie I would watch it again let me tell you how much she was
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in her phone because she was afraid of the bloody bits it was there was one part where they have a flashback and I
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don't do the The Chopping and the slicing I don't do that now I watch a
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lot of like creepy stuff but when it comes to like the blood and guts I cover
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my eyes even if it's in the movie I'm watching I'm like no I can't American Horror Story yeah she I will cover my
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eyes on some parts of American Horror Story as well if it's boring the stuff there is way weirder than what was in
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this movie that's all I'm going to say about that and honestly also I'll say American Horror Story kind of has like
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especially the older ones their gory things it's like you look at it and you're like oh that's not really that
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believable like it's not realistic this was pretty realistic I'm sorry well knowing that these events
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really happened it's like you watch it with a different mindset yeah so that is
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all we have for you today um next week we will be talking
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about the girl with all the gifts you know continuing on our scary October
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type theme or sci-fi thriller horror themed month um yeah the girl with all
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the gifts um check that one out I downloaded
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it but I'm sure you can find it streaming somewhere if you can't definitely rent
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it rent it on Voodoo Fandango um great movie Glen Close once
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again is in that one and again that movie is the one where the interaction
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between her and the girl Stellar performance Stellar
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performance between the both of them um if you like zombie movies this is it
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okay so we'll bring that up next week we'll talk a little more about that in
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[Music] - Yesterday
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8 hours ago, ProfD said:
It's a sad state of affairs when our POTUS election comes down to voting against a candidate instead of electing someone who will most effectively lead the country.
It isn't sad. The USA since 1776 has a populace under it that is financially profitable while inevitably dysfunctional, inevitably. I find it telling how people in the usa who know its history, feel it is sad when its inevitable negativities come to pass. I find that the most troubling thing about most in the usa, they seem to think the country warrants more positivity when i argue it warrants more negativity, and only because of hopefulness and a lot of backstabers of all phenotypes to their own phenotypical populaces has the usa not had more negativity hich it clearly warrants
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MY COMMENT TO THE POST BELOW
Computer programs have never amazed me or scared me, and never will. If I have any issue with this issue is people keep using the term Artificial Intelligence. None of these programs are intelligent by any means. But humans keep using the term AI I wish humans would stop.
Yes, a computer program can translate various human languages, which have rules themselves, which can be aligned to deduc a translation. yes, programs have been made by humans which are designed to make more programs. But I don't see that as a big deal.
Is it possible for each human being to have a personal computer that is groomed to them, that assesses your physical condition and tests you for cancer an allows you to communicate to other human beings in languages you don't know and act as a librarian or study aid and be a life organizer being the size of a button with an energy source that is solar powered while able to be longer than any human life?
Yes, between computer programming/research in acute electromagnetic emissions/research in biological cell scale structures/nuclear fusion / solar power. I can see such a device being made. It isn't amazing or scary, it is merely a tool, and one no human being is forced to use.
A wrench is a wrench, you don't have to use it.
For me, again, my issue is the use of the term A. I. and as always with me the Black populace, in the usa or the larger humanity, relationship to tech and to that end, which matters to me...
It seems many Black people in the usa and sadly beyond are techphiles or techaddicts.
Every single new tech tool black people seem to be enamored by it. It reminds me of Frederick Douglass and his love of the camera. And his reasoning for loving the camera was what he called its honest quality, it shows the human body, it isn't with an artist's manipulations, it is raw. It has a level playing field aspect in that each user of a camera is a painter whose tool does the equal work and I think ever since then many blacks, ever growing in the usa, have seen tech as that.
I don't though. I don't mind not being able to do something. I don't mind being able to say I don't know, or I can't do.
I do think the legacy of enslavement to whites has made black people in the usa addicted to "doing" as if one is less than when they can not. But one is not less than when they can't lift any more bales of cotton.