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What Captain Ibrahim Traoré told the students of Nazi Boni University

Burkina Faso's President Ibrahim Traore's Speech That Amazed The Russian Counterpart

Then list at least one that is not man made or natural? They as a whole person can no longer hear.... They no longer have biological legs....as a whole person You know and recognize that you have contradicted yourself and straddle both sides of argument..... Yet you pretend as if you haven't .....that is dishonest Which part is unrestricted? To my understanding Liberty is Socio-political freedoms with the confines of a society And like Freedoms they are degrees to Liberty They are both Constraints They limitations and restrictions are many .....available does not mean accessible.. Can they drive....are they healthy enough to taste the flavor.... Does the car work or have gasoline in it In some societies at certain times some flavors were restricted etc Most people are not healthy.... here are a list of restriction many have to vary degrees Breathing ....asthma or covid - some of us can't breathe water while others can't breathe air Thinking....possession by hypnosis parasites or spirits or if you not aware of something you can't think about while others cannot control their thinking. Moving...Range of motion Libery is Socio-political. We already agree that they are Natural Physical Restrictions and Man/Beast restrictions..... Who or what else is imposing restrictions on our freedoms? Then will all restricted to varying degrees of freedom. And I show where they failed your zero-sum definition Closer... Divine forces are Natural....we have already agreed that that Nature is a natural limiting factors. Can you have an OBE at will and remember the details.....or have volitional control - these freedoms are also in degrees. So we agree on the above.... What is there that limits our freedom if not man beast or nature? That you for making my point yet again.....your birds have degrees of freedom Doesn't fit your quote below:- "Freedom is simply the state of being free. It's not a measurement or level of HOW free somebody is. Again, there are no limitations to actual freedom." Does not comport with your earlier assertions;- "That's because it's a zero sum status. Either you're free or you're not. There is no "degree" or "amount" of freedom that can be negotiated or restricted." Exactly what I have said from the very beginning of this line of reasoning.....we all have degrees of freedom. One could chain their wings down stop wire their beaks shut and restrict their breathing with bronchial infections. in your definition it is a all or nothing zero sum game: There is no such thing as "limited freedom". That's an oxymoron. If it's limited, it's not free. You have already ceded that man beast and nature can and do restrict your wild birds.... What frees them from these restrictions? Why not they are restriction and limitations? Are you saying they are not restrictions? Machines are man made.... So who or what is imposing if not Man Nature or Beast? Boundaries are Limitations..... Where are the Boundaries of Nature? ?You mean Those that are Limited.....within the boundaries of NATURE. To continue on this line of reasoning.....then it is best you start a new thread.

True.... The following is my definition of them.... Freedom is a Natural Inheritance or State... Liberty is a form of Political Freedom granted by Societies to its members.... cool You mean someone being intellectually dishonest....by being ambiguous and switching up - that is not going to end true

cool Which Restriction are not an imposition? Yes it's happening to you the whole person.....you cannot separate your Aspects from yourself - you and your Aspects are One. They still retain some degree of freedom....Dexterity or ability to perform.. No not a crime....just intellectually dishonest cool Fine by me You cannot be generally not free and be unrestrictedly free individually. The individual is confined in the generality....they are free within their limitations - degrees of freedom Yes Physical/bodily aspects are restricted by....Ability Range of Motion Flexibility Mobility Endurance and Sickness If some aspects are free....that is a degree of freedom Only if they have a car and is capable of driving.... Only if that flavor is available..... Which aspect of their lives has unrestricted freedom?.... I know of only possible one that comes close .....but you must name it Otherwise it is all degrees of freedom.... Most Freedoms have Limitations....Name the freedom that has no restriction? Imposed by what or whom? If restrictions exist on some aspects of their life....then their life is restricted - All aspects belong to the same individual life... Name the Unrestricted Aspects? cool Then name the limit that is neither Natural or Man made? So now you accept limitations as a part of freedom....That is what is meant by degrees of freedom.. You just admitted that your free birds have Limitations.. How then are they free....by your definition? So where is their zero sum freedoms without restrictions or limitations? Can they still move eat breathe and flap their wings.....then they are free to those degrees. True What or which birds exist that have no restriction? Since we have already that physics/nature imposes restrictions The only other impositions is Man or Beast....you have now also included them as possible restrictive elements Where or what are the Freedoms that birds possess that are exclusive of Man Beast and Nature Restrictions? Thank you Now explain the freedom you said they have? Tell me about the free birds and their freedoms?

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Ok..... This misunderstanding occurred because of your "zero sum" statements. Thank you for the Re-Direction.. Cool... So there is "IMPOSED" restrictions on your freedom And Natural Limits and Boundaries on your freedom....Natural Restrictions Hence the Reason I used the term "Degrees" or "Levels" of or to Freedom I now understand that is what you meant True But Realized that natural limits can be overcome.....by Tech When I use the "Tech"....I am referring to Technology and especially Technique - Use of Knowledge We are all experiencing varying degrees of freedom Most of freedom is in three parts... Knowing(Wisdom)that you are free.. Willingness(Courage) to exercise that freedom. Ability(Diligence/Dexterity) to exercise that freedom If Any of the above is missing....Then that degree of freedom is severely compromised correct correct True No I did not.... You explained yourself correctly.. If you think so....fine by me Start a thread....and let's learned together. So do I If you cannot see or admit to where you committed a "STRADDLE" while trying to "HEDGE" your arguments.... Then I see no reason to show you your logical flaws in the future.... Yes you did and you also explained....the root of the misunderstanding and redirected your arguments. By Modifying and Qualifying with the Word "IMPOSED" Exactly... But by your own definition....we should not be free at all in any way Your own quote leaves no speculation as to the fact that any limitation on freedom ....is not freedom Having some Individual freedom and not being generally free is a contradiction of your definition of freedom "There is no "degree" or "amount" of freedom that can be negotiated or restricted." Then you are now saying they are degrees and levels to freedom....but only unwilling to admit it You have cross over (double turn) and is now support my arguments with different words. All you stated above are but levels and degrees of freedoms Here is a confusing statement of yours.... You are confessing that they do have limits....on that we now agree but Are you saying that birds limitation aren't man made or that they are made by nature? cause if they are either...then they only free in degrees Isn't that a real current and present possible for birds....Capture or and Predation by other animals and birds. Then yes they are restricted....They live in degrees or levels of freedom Really square that with both of your confusing statement above in blue.... Let me respond any way..... They have both forms of limitations to varying degrees.....Hence their freedom is in degrees and levels. True.... Is Your basic premise then is that Man is not part of Nature? If not imposed by Nature.....then Imposed by Whom or What? Both Man and other creatures({other}birds included) Impose on birds....

The Subject is Freedom.....and you have already describe it by the definition you gave Correct me if and when I am Wrong..... You stated "That's because it's a zero sum status. Either you're free or you're not. There is no "degree" or "amount" of freedom that can be negotiated or restricted." In that case given your definition of Freedom nobody is free but God/Nature....cause all humans are limited in some way. S/He was never free according to your description and definition. If you do not have the ability to do it...... then you are not free to do it Oh the word "with" above should have been "without" cool When A doctor asks his or her patience for a semen sample.....are they having sex? When a Doctor swabs a woman's vagina for vaginal fluid.....are they having sex? Yes....it suggests that. What is more likely is that the Cubi is reaping emotional energy that they get by simulating sex.....Loosh cool found the time poor example.. Those are the ones most susceptible.....to brainwashing Maybe you would learn something...its up to you. What's this a trick question?? Lets deal with what you stated and I quoted..... I am not incline to go data mining for your quotes...its just not worth it Since you only deny your own quote and there implications. No need for that....I have quote your statements above and those are all I need to prove my point. Based on the Above definition give an example of someone that enjoys and exercises this type of freedom? Note your quote in red below..... That is a limitation you have place on freedom.....which as you stated is oxymoronic "Generally speaking, we're NOT free...and I didn't say we were. We are free individually in SOME regards. Again, that freedom must be qualified" How is "generally speaking we are not free" and "we are free individually in some regards"....not freedom of degrees or limited freedom? Generally we are not free but individually we are in some regards......thats a straddle - hence both sides of the fence or hedge Now qualify it? Its in red above......"We are free individually in SOME regards." You also said we are free in "some regards"....those regards are the degrees. Those regards contradict your "That's because it's a zero sum status. Either you're free or you're not. There is no "degree" or "amount" of freedom that can be negotiated or restricted." We are free individually in SOME regards. Unable doesn't necessarily mean not free. Are you saying birds in the wild have...."no limits or restrictions."?

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Agreed.... Were you or were you not qualifying the subject? The more Ability the more freedom True They are intimately Related if not co-joined You cannot exercise a freedom with the ability to do it Many do... So some act and dress feminine and so say they are women....many accept this and some societies do. Some confuse sex and gender.... Sex is biology and biology is genetics.... Gender is Social.....Role or Behavior Genetics is biology I am not saying it should. My understanding is that both Spirit and Soul Transcends Sex....but not necessarily Gender. When I use the word sex...I am not referring to the Act When I have the time...I will Freedom is limited to your ability to exercise it We are defined by our limitations....if not so we would then be pure Being If you are able to do everything.....Then it is - Only Nature is Unlimited We all live within the limits of our physical body....Which we constantly extent thru tech Using a stick shift one must shift the gear stick and some it is back and forth....only the stick shifts - the car is always going forward and accelerating according to how much gas it is being given. Between gears the car is not going backwards....it is no longer accelerating - it maintains the momentum before the shift was initiated if left out of gear long enough...it will eventually decelerated - at no time during the shifting is the car going backwards. For it to go backwards the driver must stop the car and shift it into reverse and then it will only go backwards Hence your example makes no sense Yes...and that precisely why you are - brainwashed or duped by the constant propaganda If you want to go into this start another thread.....

I agree I know that pain Yes...that too is true Sounds like Corporate or State Intelligence Hardware. Information is the beginning of Power.... Suppose you found a herb that leads to immortality....would you share it with the world? or Suppose you were 500yr old would you tell the world? That is True.... Sometimes the truth is hidden in plain sight....go figure that out.

Yes....some have made it work for them. Still most who go back....did not do so purposely but as a result of old habits and fellowship. True... I really do not think anyone is built for prison....rather they adapt to it. I am of the opinion that they think it is the easiest way to live.....not knowing that they are sacrificing themselves to the system True....it remains a prison nonetheless True...and it's possible.

I am not trying to change anything.... Just trying to let you understand.... First as in Order of Use....then its Wisdom First as in Importance.....Then its Courage True.... But you would not have stone building without grass huts.....Grass huts then using your example is the Science of Construction - laying the foundation for all constructions that fallow. Same explanation above applies here as well....except for the motor - the are both cycles Exactly....to qualify is to limit In both cases or examples above....they are unable to do - hence not free to do That Sex reassignment and Hormonal therapy so far can only change the Phenotype...... Genetically they remain whatever sex they were born.....or a Chimera You said both... Then let me ask you are you saying that.... Freedom is limited? Freedom is unlimited? Freedom can be limited? Make no sense....to me We been here before.... You talking about things you know nothing about....but think you know based on white mans propaganda Yep says the white man sipping lemonade on his porch about the Blackman slaving in the sun from sun up to sun down......As he reaps the fruits of the blackmans labor you are so silly.....

Sadly a lot of info out there is said or presented in such manner so as to mislead.. Here is 2 simple cheat or secret code I used to decipher mis/dis information from truth....When it comes to Africa. The one who shouts about Promoting Protecting or Restoring Democracy ....is lying Any black man the West is supporting - is an evil sellout and aught not to be trusted or any thing said about him or her by western media believed. There is more but that's a primer I blame Net Neutrality..... Often times the info you seek is there....it's just not on the first page that pops up Or you have to refine and tailor your search more Yep My and a fellow who claimed to be a computer expert....was just discussing the Deep Web and the Dark web... Tried telling him that the Dark Web was created by the US Military....He said no way - not with all the criminal activity going on on it