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Mel Yep! That is exactly what the Temple priestesses are reported to have done because they had other goals for civilization. Great point! The ancients knew the power of sex (as well as blood and semen) and employed certain sex rituals to access certain spiritual and political power over society and help maintain stability. You mentioned the temple prostitutes of Egypt earlier. It has been said that the Kemetic King (I don't call them pharaohs) Khufu actually promoted his own DAUGHTER as a prostitute to raise money to build the Great Pyramid of Giza. And it wasn't considered evil or scandalous at the time but a great honor that a woman would be so desired and so many men would spend so much money on her it generated enough to build one of the Wonders of the world. That must have been some baaaaad coochie...lol. But anyway..... It hadn't escaped my observation that when we go from mostly vegetarian Matriarchal/Egalitarian civilization where sex and sexuality was promoted and encouraged....to a Patriarchal one where sex was condemned as a "necessary evil".....that all of a sudden murder and violence is now promoted as "divine". It follows a pattern that Caucasians leave where ever they go. Thanx for the Tutsi video btw.... I work with some Rwandans who are actually Tutsis ((they told me but Rwandans really are not supposed to tell anyone their tribe)) I might show them this video...lol. richardmurray The ancient egalitarianism you speak I know of but the use of technology in negative ways plus the growing complexity of humanity , what i will call the patriarchy, warrants said system to reach an egalitarianism that can exist alongside the modern and future greed. It isn't the only way , but is one way. I might have mentioned this to ProfD a few days ago but we were talking about Scandanavian countries and he mentioned how peaceful and progressive they were as compared to the United States and how they don't spend so much money on their militaries. My point was they can live in that type of peace because the United States is protecting them, however another interesting thing about those Scandinavian nations like Sweden and Finland is that they are MORE egalitarian than the United States. Women have far more power and independence there than they do in other parts of the Western world. I believe the reasons is....even Caucasians know and understand that an egalitarian society where women share the power is inherently BETTER in the long run...and they preserve those societies as ideal. However Sweden and Finland and Norway are very homogeneous and the vast majority of it's citizens are White and so they don't mind allowing their women equal power as long as they know that there are no people (especially men) of color around to pull them away. As Sweden and Denmark begin to bring in more immigrants from the Middle East and Africa....it's going to become more Conservative and the sexism and traditionalism will increase as White men seek more control over their women to keep them from African and Arab men.