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frankster Interesting definition. My definition of Liberty is the state of having few restrictions. The fewer the restrictions....the more the Liberty. So while I don't believe in "degrees of freedom", by that definition there can indeed be DEGREES OF LIBERTY. Perhaps it is the detailed expression of ideas and their proper articulation rather than making broad sweeping generalizations and holding extreme beliefs.....that you are CONFUSING with "ambiguity" "switching up" and "dishonesty". A fool will look at a Mayor, a Governor, and a President each occupying positions in Executive Office, and say: "Ok, so which one is in charge? I thought the President held the executive office, but now they're saying the Mayor holds the executive office. And the other day on television somebody said they were running for the executive office of Governor! Somebody is lying to us. Somebody is being dishonest. They are trying to switch it up and confuse us. Everybody can't hold the same office!" It's not that people are lying or being dishonest; it's that he doesn't have the intellect to understand the complexities of the U.S. political system....lol. Instead of trying to engage in intelligent discussions above his grade, his ass needs to be slinging a rag at a carwash somewhere....lol. My point? The confusion that one may call "dishonesty" or "switching up" only ends when you are intelligent and analytical enough in thought to understand the ideas being presented to you. At that point...it no longer confuses you or seems like deception and dishonesty because it makes sense to you now. 🌤️ ......if you ever reach that point, lol.

frankster Which Restriction are not an imposition? There may be many but for the sake of this discussion to lessen the confusion, as I stated previously the ONLY time I will use the word "restriction" is in accordance with a limit that has been imposed by man, machine, or beast. Yes it's happening to you the whole person.....you cannot separate your Aspects from yourself - you and your Aspects are One. Not necessarily. Some people lose their hearing...an aspect of themselves...but THEY are still here. Some people lose a leg or both legs...aspects of themselves...but THEY are still here. Likewise, their legs or hearing can be restricted while the rest of their body is "free" to move about. No not a crime....just intellectually dishonest How so? You consider a person who is not given over to EXTREMES in thought or philosophy, "intellectually dishonest"??? You cannot be generally not free and be unrestrictedly free individually. You can if that which is unrestricted are individual PARTS of you. The individual is confined in the generality....they are free within their limitations - degrees of freedom No "degrees" of freedom. Either it's free or it's not. Perhaps you're speaking of liberty. Physical/bodily aspects are restricted by....Ability Range of Motion Flexibility Mobility Endurance and Sickness I'd rather use the term "limited" rather than restricted. Restricted implies that those limitations were imposed upon them...which is often not the case. If some aspects are free....that is a degree of freedom Only if they have a car and is capable of driving.... Only if that flavor is available..... Those are limitations....not imposed restrictions. Once they have a car...they can drive. Once those flavors are available...they can taste them. Nobody is holding them from it or telling them they can't. Which aspect of their lives has unrestricted freedom?.... In most healthy people: Breathing. Thinking. Moving their limbs. Otherwise it is all degrees of freedom.... Perhaps what you're calling "degrees of freedom" are actually degrees of LIBERTY. Most Freedoms have Limitations....Name the freedom that has no restriction? If it's free...no restrictions are imposed. Imposed by what or whom? Man, machine, or beast Name the Unrestricted Aspects? I just did. See the above. Then name the limit that is neither Natural or Man made? Those set by Divine Forces, such as Out of Body Experiences So now you accept limitations as a part of freedom....That is what is meant by degrees of freedom.. There has always been limitations in freedom. But they aren't imposed by man, machine, or beast...they are natural. You just admitted that your free birds have Limitations Correct. They are limited to this atmosphere. They can't fly to the moon....lol. How then are they free....by your definition? Because for the most part, their limits are NATURAL...and not man, machine, or beast made restrictions. Can they still move eat breathe and flap their wings.....then they are free to those degrees. Now you're qualifying...CERTAIN ASPECTS of their lives are free while THEY are not. What or which birds exist that have no restriction? Again, using "restriction" in the context of THIS discussion....most wild birds. Since we have already that physics/nature imposes restrictions Those so-called "restrictions" are natural limitations and as I've said over and over again, they have been excluded. We don't count those. The only other impositions is Man or Beast Or machine. Which is arguably "man" as well. Where or what are the Freedoms that birds possess that are exclusive of Man Beast and Nature Restrictions? If they are wild, the freedom to fly and to fly where they desire within the boundaries of NATURE. Tell me about the free birds and their freedoms? I just did. *Another interesting thing about freedom is that it works just as well in the negative as it does in the postive. Something can be FREE OF just like can be FREE TO. Free of sugar Free of additives Free of lies Free of corruption When something is FREE OF sugar.....there is NO DEGREE of sugar it contains. If it contains ANY sugar....it's no longer "free of" sugar.

Or opens up a new theater.....lol.

@frankster With all of our discussion about Freedom and Restrictions.....let us not confuse Freedom with Liberty. Although they're closely related, they are actually two separate concepts....lol

frankster Ok..... This misunderstanding occurred because of your "zero sum" statements. Thank you for the Re-Direction.. No problem So there is "IMPOSED" restrictions on your freedom If restrictions are imposed on it, it's no longer freedom. And Natural Limits and Boundaries on your freedom....Natural Restrictions Correct We are all experiencing varying degrees of freedom If you want to call the freedom we have in different aspects of our lives "varying degrees of OUR freedom" you can do so. I don't agree with it because I think it's not specific enough and misleading, but I won't stop you...lol. Most of freedom is in three parts... Knowing(Wisdom)that you are free.. Willingness(Courage) to exercise that freedom. Ability(Diligence/Dexterity) to exercise that freedom If Any of the above is missing....Then that degree of freedom is severely compromised Hmmm..... Interesting take on the components of freedom. So according to YOUR understanding of freedom...which incorporates willingness....if a person doesn't WANT and is UNWILLING to work for a living....they don't have the freedom to work? If you cannot see or admit to where you committed a "STRADDLE" while trying to "HEDGE" your arguments.... No. Although I didn't know straddling was a crime or violation of ethics to be "committed"...lol. Then I see no reason to show you your logical flaws in the future.... Especially when you...based on the reasoning you've displayed in our exchanges...aren't qualified to do so anyway, lol. By Modifying and Qualifying with the Word "IMPOSED" Yes. I figured that would make things a little bit more clear. I should also...instead of using them together...separate the terms LIMIT from RESTRICTION because using those two words together so much seems to also cause a little confusion. From hence forth, when I say "restriction" I mean IMPOSED LIMITATIONS. Exactly... But by your own definition....we should not be free at all in any way Again, it goes back to "generally speaking". If you're talking about the whole person and how they relate to the society they're in -NO, they aren't free. THEY are restricted by rules and regulation in society. If you're talking about individual aspects of their bodies and lives -YES, some aspect of their lives are free. THEY are free to drive to the store THEY are free to choose the flavor of ice cream they want to eat Having some Individual freedom and not being generally free is a contradiction of your definition of freedom It doesn't contradict my definition of freedom. Again, it depends whether we're talking about the whole person and how they relate to society OR individual aspect of a person and their lives? Then you are now saying they are degrees and levels to freedom....but only unwilling to admit it No. Freedom means unrestricted....no imposed limits. But CERTAIN ASPECTS of a person's life may be unrestricted while OTHER ASPECTS of their life is. You're confusing this with "degree" of overall freedom. Here is a confusing statement of yours.... Well I'll see if I can clarify, lol. You are confessing that they do have limits....on that we now agree It's not a confession....because I've never hid or denied it, lol. but Are you saying that birds limitation aren't man made or that they are made by nature? For most wild birds, their only limitations are those by nature. Which is why I consider them free. Now sometimes a human can put devices on wild birds to limit their abilities OR can put obstacles out in the wild to limit their access to certain areas....and at that point they are no longer free. Isn't that a real current and present possible for birds....Capture or and Predation by other animals and birds. Yes. And if they are captured, they are no longer free. Then yes they are restricted....They live in degrees or levels of freedom No, they aren't living in ANY degree of freedom....they are held captive. Is Your basic premise then is that Man is not part of Nature? My premise with the wild birds example is that ANY BEING...man or beast...who IMPOSES LIMITATIONS/RESTRICTIONS on birds, has taken away their freedom. If not imposed by Nature.....then Imposed by Whom or What? If it's IMPOSED....then it would have to be by man or beast. Both Man and other creatures({other}birds included) Impose on birds.... Correct Then they are no longer free at that point. Some wild birds....I'm guessing most...ARE free. But some are not.

🤣 Careful not to smoke TOO much herb while watching a video about Zombies. ....lest you turn from a spectator to a PARTICIPANT, lol.

ProfD I just don't see the point in dropping bombs on schools & other places just because a country isn't friendly &/or they are building nuclear weapons. I don't agree with it, but it's to inspire fear and pain. When you're dealing with people who are so brave that they don't care whether THEY live or die in the fight, then you go after their loved ones like women and children who are innocent and THAT will hurt you more than your own death. Again, I don't agree with it...but that's the logic behind it. Seeing your family killed in front of you is worse than death. Much more powerful countries have nukes. The USA isn't bombing Russia. They are supposed to be the biggest threat. We already know it's BS used to justify military spending Russia and the United States are the two nation with the most White people of any other nation on the planet. Why would they actually be enemies? If anything, they'd be sticking together to keep the other nations of color in check...lol.

ProfD I.still don't see how these zombies are productive & constructive in solving problems or liberating their countries from oppressors. Some claim that the practice of zombification is productive in providing a manual labor force; however I think it's DESTRUCTIVE when it comes to the moral and ethical fabric of society. The negatives seem to outweigh the positives. I don't believe a bunch of innocent people should be killed in that regard. Me neither. However if your enemy kills millions of YOUR innocent civilians, how else would you get "even" with them or retaliate?

ProfD Kicking out the French was a start. Haiti did it 222 years ago & fheir sh8t hasn't been right yet. Could take a long time to see positive results. Kicking the French out and inviting the Russians in doesn't look very promising or revolutionary. Right. The proof is in the pudding. Actions speak louder than words & marching around. This is why I say, time will tell.

frankster Ok, I think I MAY see what the issue is....... I mentioned this before but maybe I need to mention it to you again. When I talk of freedom, I'm speaking of being free from IMPOSED restrictions and limitations! In other words, a wild bird is free to fly as high as it CAN fly....as opposed to being tethered or caged or having a dome blocking it. Understand? Man/Being made restrictions and limitations are what I'm referring to that inhibit freedom. Not the limitations and restrictions that occur within nature such as natural abilities, disabilities, or natural limits and boundaries. I thought this went without saying....lol. Being free to walk doesn't mean you can do like Forest Gump and walk around the whole planet until you grow a beard, lol. The Subject is Freedom.....and you have already describe it by the definition you gave Correct me if and when I am Wrong..... You stated "That's because it's a zero sum status. Either you're free or you're not. There is no "degree" or "amount" of freedom that can be negotiated or restricted." Correct. However when I say negotiated or restricted I'm speaking of IMPOSED restrictions. Not natural limits and boundaries. In that case given your definition of Freedom nobody is free but God/Nature....cause all humans are limited in some way. Again, I speak of imposed limits. Not natural limitations. S/He was never free according to your description and definition. It depends on their living conditions before incarceration but generally speaking, nobody who lives in a society is free. If you do not have the ability to do it...... then you are not free to do it You can be free to do it but not ABLE to do it. Think of a person in a wheelchair. They are free to get up and walk if they want to, but are usually not able to practice that freedom. When A doctor asks his or her patience for a semen sample.....are they having sex? No When a Doctor swabs a woman's vagina for vaginal fluid.....are they having sex? No Yes....it suggests that. What is more likely is that the Cubi is reaping emotional energy that they get by simulating sex.....Loosh Speculation found the time Wasted your time, lol. poor example.. Even poorer understanding Those are the ones most susceptible.....to brainwashing How so? How are people who rely on what they've experienced and witnessed for themselves as opposed to believing the 3rd, 4th, and 5th hand information they may get off of the internet, more susceptible to brain washing??? Maybe you would learn something...its up to you. Every time I interact with you I learn something, lol. What's this a trick question?? No, it's a direct and specific question that you failed to answer because you couldn't. Instead you went on a quote-fest trying to find contradictions in my statements INSTEAD of providing the actual statement that you accused me of. Since you only deny your own quote and there implications. You provided 5 or 6 quotes of mine that I just stood by 100%....lol. Based on the Above definition give an example of someone that enjoys and exercises this type of freedom? I don't know of any. Which is why I said we (as humans) are not free, generally speaking. Note your quote in red below..... That is a limitation you have place on freedom.....which as you stated is oxymoronic Saying we are free in "some regards" is a QUALIFICATION. Meaning certain aspects OF our lives are free, while WE aren't free in general. For example -Free to use your left arm -Free to walk to the grocery store -Free to eat These are individual freedoms that most people are allowed to exercise, but it doesn't mean THEY are free generally speaking. How is "generally speaking we are not free" and "we are free individually in some regards"....not freedom of degrees or limited freedom? Because the freedom itself isn't limited (imposed limitation)...or else it wouldn't be freedom. What's being limited is the DESCRIPTION of what we're talking about as we narrow down WHAT specifically is free. As I said earlier..... A person's ARM is free. A person is free to eat food and drink water. .....doesn't mean that person is free in general, because they live under man made rules and restrictions. Generally we are not free but individually we are in some regards......thats a straddle - hence both sides of the fence or hedge That's not a straddle. That's a lack of your ability to think analytically....lol. As individuals are free in SOME regards meaning in some specific details. For example.... A person can be locked up in prison: -THEY aren't free...but their arm is free. -THEY aren't free...but they are free to get up and go to the bathroom -THEY aren't free...but they are free to look at television The person is free in SOME REGARDS but generally speaking isn't. Most wild animals are free in general, while most humans are free in some or certain regards....but generally restricted. Are you saying birds in the wild have...."no limits or restrictions."? No. They do have limits but they usually aren't man made or made by another animal. If they are limited by humans or other animals, then they are no longer free. They are restricted. When we talk of freedom, we're talking about lack of man/being made limits or restrictions. Again, most physical beings have limits and restrictions due to the laws of physics. I'm not talking about the limits and restrictions that come with nature. I'm talking about limits and restrictions that are imposed.

Now you accuse me of "switching" by producing THIS quote "Again, that freedom must be qualified" As with the others, I stand by THIS quote 100%! What does THIS quote....of me saying that freedom must be qualified....have to do with YOUR claim, that I said we are free??? Because that's what you accused me of. I said we're NOT free. Then you produce my quote saying: "Sometimes a person's ability is restricted by an outside force. Sometimes a person never HAD the ability in the past, to begin with." Again, stand by this one too. Where in THIS quote did I say that we were free??? 1. You have NOT proven your accusation of me at some point claiming that we were generally free. Something I haven't said at any point in our discussion OR on this site! 2. You've seem to be attempting to show me contradicting myself by saying freedom is unlimited while it also saying it needs to be qualified...as if those two statements contradict eachother. They don't. Let me see if I can make it plainer or clearer for you...... Freedom means no limits or restrictions. Yes "qualifying" something restricts and limits....but not necessary the subject itself but the DESCRIPTION of the subject or the STATEMENT you made ON the subject. It narrows the statement or NUMBER of the subjects we're talking about down to to the SPECIFIC subject or subjects we're talking about and focuses us on it! For example..... You can make the claim: BIRDS HAVE FREEDOM But this isn't necessarily true until you QUALIFY it! How do you do that? By saying BIRDS IN THE WILD HAVE FREEDOM .....because caged birds don't. Now you've taking that statement and qualified it to make it true. Now, did my qualifying OR limiting the statement of WHICH birds I was talking about limit the ability of those wild birds to fly??? I hope you understand the point I'm making.....lol.

frankster Oh boy....... Here you go playing games again. You and your word salads....lol. Now let's put this in perspective............. I asked you: frankster....when did I EVER say that we were free generally speaking??? You said: You said both... I'm not sure what "both" means, but I asked you to SHOW with context where I said WE WERE FREE GENERALLY SPEAKING That's what I asked you to do. Your response??? First you produce this quote of mine: "That's because it's a zero sum status. Either you're free or you're not. There is no "degree" or "amount" of freedom that can be negotiated or restricted." ....which I stand by. Now, where in it do I declare that we are free???? Next, you produce THIS quote of mine: "Freedom is simply the state of being free. It's not a measurement or level of HOW free somebody is. Again, there are no limitations to actual freedom." ....again, I stand by it 100%. And WHERE in it do I say that we are free????? Because that's the question I asked you. Then you ran back through the thread and pulled THIS quote of mine: "There is no such thing as "limited freedom". That's an oxymoron. If it's limited, it's not free." Again, I stand by this quote! And again, where in it do I say that we are free???? I asked you to produce the quote where you accused me of saying that we were free!

ProfD Right. I reject the belief that white supremacists are thr smartest people on the planet. A willingness to gain power & control by any means necessary doesn't make a person smarter. True. However if you can't come up with an idea or plan to resist it or defeat them, what does that make you? If a person is constantly cheating you out of your money....over and over again...that says a lot about both them AND you, lol. Most old people aren't producing much of anything. I'm not sure how true that is.....lol....however the fact that they even MADE it to an advanced age in this world is worthy of some respect. There were so many things that could have took them out, from violence to disease. There were so many things they could have killed themselves over from loss of love ones to extreme physical distress. .....but they're still here and made it to be "old"....lol. They're still in the race and didn't give up. If they don't do anything else...that in and of itself is commendable. In my opinion, unless you were institutionalized all of your life...if you made it past 50 in THIS world...you deserve to be cared for by the government for the rest of your life while you live a life of comfort and ease. Focus on your health and having fun. This falls under the ridiculous & absurd. This is because you probably don't know the history of zombies in both Africa and Haiti and what a zombie really is. I suggest you get the movie/television version of what zombies are out of your mind and research the TRUE history of zombies in Haiti to have a better understanding of it. They went to war just fine without it. Same objective. Killing people. The objective of most wars isn't JUST to kill people...but to WIN the war and protect one's interests. Like Tom Hanks said in Saving Private Ryan....our objective is to win the war.

frankster Were you or were you not qualifying the subject? Again, to qualify is to limit the DESCRIPTION of the subject....not the subject itself The more Ability the more freedom Not necessarily. A person in prison can be wounded to the point of being disabled then completely healed of their wounds and able bodied again all WHILE still incarcerated. They are intimately Related if not co-joined You cannot exercise a freedom with the ability to do it Correct, you can't EXERCISE it....but you still have it. Just because you don't have the ability to EXERCISE something...doesn't mean you don't have it in your possession. Sex is biology and biology is genetics.... Gender is Social.....Role or Behavior I wouldn't say that biology IS genetics. I would say that genetics IS A FORM OF biology; one of the many components of it. But I agree. Sex is biological where as gender is social. My understanding is that both Spirit and Soul Transcends Sex....but not necessarily Gender. I used to believe that Spirits/Souls didn't have a sex assigned to Them, but now I'm not sure. Plenty of Spiritual Beings have been known to engage in sexual acts. Like the Incubus and Succubus. This suggests that THEY are of a particular sex Themselves. When I use the word sex...I am not referring to the Act I know, neither was I. When I have the time...I will I don't think you HAVE enough time to find that which doesn't exist...lol. Using a stick shift one must shift the gear stick and some it is back and forth....only the stick shifts - the car is always going forward and accelerating according to how much gas it is being given. Between gears the car is not going backwards....it is no longer accelerating - it maintains the momentum before the shift was initiated if left out of gear long enough...it will eventually decelerated - at no time during the shifting is the car going backwards. For it to go backwards the driver must stop the car and shift it into reverse and then it will only go backwards Hence your example makes no sense You're missing the point by being too technical...lol. The point is for someone who does NOT understand how a stick shift works, the driver constantly changing gears doesn't make sense to THEM. They don't understand...so they can't make sense of it. That was the point of that analogy. No need to explain how clutches work...lol. Yes...and that precisely why you are - brainwashed or duped by the constant propaganda I'm talking about what I've seen IN THE UNITED STATES....not what I heard or saw on the internet about what happened elsewhere. It's hard to brainwash somebody on what they've actually seen and witnessed repeatedly. If you want to go into this start another thread..... Well....YOU the one who brought up that scenario in the first place. I was just responding to it. Don't START no distractions - won't BE no distractions, lol.

ProfD I've heard the greed & corruption in under-developed countries is the reason wages are low & high-ranking government officials & contractors work together stealing money while doing the bare minimum to build the country &/or sustain it. That and brain-drain. A lot of the best talent and intelligent people....especially the youth...often LEAVE these nations and come to places like the United States where they feel their intelligence and talent will pay off best and get them the most benefits. The people would have to overthrown the corrupt government & put folks in place who are working for the greater good of their country. Captain Ibrahim Traore is a good example of a leader who appears to be working to make his country...Burkina Faso better. We'll have to see..... I need to see more than just armed men with big football shoulders walking around in military uniforms with masks over their faces talking about how they kicked out the French. I need to see how the infrastructure and buildings are improving. I need to see paved streets and roads. I need to see farms with crops being produced. I need to see how they're building new better hospitals for the people.

ProfD Not laziness on my part. Many people wouldn't know what I was referring to if I typed cedis instead of dollars. I wasn't referring to you....lol. I misread your post and thought you were referring to African nations using U.S. currency because it was easier FOR THEM. I meant it was lazy on THEIR PART to use foreign currency as opposed to their own. If the government or company chooses to use human labor instead of heavy machinery or robots, the workers can protest but it may not change anything other than put them out of work. True. But shame on a government that would rather wear down and wear out it's own citizens rather than provide them with a more comfortable life. People have to organize themselves & force the government to work for & take care of them. I agree.

ProfD According to the late NF Jr., human activity should be constructive & solving problems. 😁 He also said that the "white supremacists" were the smartest people on the planet. But you seem to reject that idea of his...lol. Hopefully those believers are using that information or knowledge constructively. Not just sitting around talking about it. I agree. Information that is true should be used for constructive purposes. Thr current life expectancy of human beings in the USA is about 79 years on average. IMO, that average is perfect. Most people aren't producing too much of anything after they reach 55 years old. The other 24+ years they're just alive & taking up space on the planet. In my opinion, it's not so much about chronological age but condition of the body and mind that determines a person's usefulness in society. There are some people who are only 20 years old and ain't worth a damn...lol. On the other end you have Cynique who CLAIMS she's 93...lol. I'm not sure what condition her body is in but her mind seems to be pretty sharp even at that advanced age and if put to proper use....instead of figuring out ways to insult me....could be quite constructive. Zombies would have to be tamed. Unlike their Hollywood depictions, zombies....the real ones...generally ARE tamed because they are under the control of a master and/or Sorcerer There's a lot of ridiculous & absurd sh8t that people actually believe & defend. Again, you're equating ridiculous and absurd to falsehood and lies. Just because something is too ridiculous to be believed....doesn't necessarily mean it's false. Just because something is apparently unbelievable....doesn't necessarily mean it's false. BEING UNTRUE...makes it false. True. They had no use for such technology either. Lol....the militaries at the time certainly could have used it. Things should be rejected for which there is no proof or evidence & especially if it does not produce constructive results &/or solve problems. I personally prefer a more neutral position. If someone comes to me with a claim but provides no proof or even evidence....I neither accept nor reject it. I neither believe it no actively "disbelieve" it. I just file it as "information" and later on if evidence comes to support it or to the contrary....I'll deal with it appropriately.

ProfD A lot of information is presented as distractions to keep people from questioning that which they can see that actually affects their daily lives & existence. True. Sometimes you can't just look at the information itself but WHO it's coming from, to determine the purpose of it's presentation. Is it coming from an individual who is sane and has little to gain from lying to the public? Or is it coming from a government with a reputation for feeding the masses disinformation TO distract them? Conspiracies, Religion, politics, sports & music, etc., are forms of entertainment used to keep the masses in check. That's a pretty broad generalization....lol. I'd say this is so in some if not most cases, but again...after being dismissed as ridiculous we find out SOME conspiracies are actually true. If enough people from different backgrounds with different motives and interests are all saying the same or similar things, there must be SOME truth in what they're saying. Like the old folks used to say: Everybody can't be telling the same lie. How would people benefit from believing in such things? 2 major ways: 1. It helps them solve their problems 2. Even if it doesn't solve their problems immediately, it gives them HOPE that their problems will be solved. Let's say a person has the knowledge to physically live for hundreds of years...... That means they know how to regenerate the physical tissues of their body. This knowledge would help the person with debilitating diseases to heal their own bodies or give them hope of it. How would Zombies & trapping spirits in bottles benefit humanity? Zombies could benefit SOME human beings the same way clones and robots do, by providing a labor force. In my opinion, trapping spirits in bottles has little benefit outside of punitive measures for individuals who committed egregious offenses. But the knowledge of it is still appreciated. Distracting people with the ridiculous & absurd gives them less bandwidth to be constructive & solve real problems. I would replace the words "ridiculous" and "absurd" with LIES and FALSEHOOD. Ridiculous and absurd can be applied to things that are actually true but just not ACCEPTED as true or a possibility. 1000 years ago, the idea of a television or helicopter would be considered ridiculous and absurd to most people in society. Things should be rejected because they are false....not simply because they are hard to believe.

ProfD @Pioneer1 ...I think your last post is quoting mine. You're right, thanks. Although I know who I'm responding TO.....when I'm typing up the response I usually do it on a document editor so that I can edit it better before posting it on the little AALBC window where it may accidentally post before I'm finished. I try to delete the entire response from the document editor before typing up a new response to the next person but sometimes I don't scroll all the way up to erase the name of the last person...lol. Greed & corruption requires a certain amount of intelligence too. You're right. So does addictions like alcoholism and crack addiction....lol. What baffles me sometimes is how crafty and ingenious SOME crack addicts can be when drug supposedly destroys your brain and makes you unable to think. But a word about what we're calling "greed and corruption"...... We have to be careful not to allow Western propaganda to shape our thoughts and have TOO MUCH negative influence over how we see African governments. First of all, as I mentioned before GREED is a natural human desire and in my opinion not necessarily wrong. Secondly, what many Western propagandists call "corruption" in African politics is just the typical nature OF politics and can be found in nearly every government around the world. One hand washes the other. That's typical human relationships whether on a social OR political level. Politicians help those who helped them get in office. Politicians help those who give them the most money and benefits. That's found ALL OVER the world. So we shouldn't be shaking the finger at Africans when it's found on the continent. It becomes a problem only when it becomes TOO excessive and extreme and stifles growth. African countries do have their own currency. It's just easier for me to use the US equivalent. Ahh....laziness. The equipment already exists. Africans have access to it. Obviously those who are tasked to perform the labor, don't...lol. Mines are still collapsing and trapping people in southern Africa. Just a matter of the government & private industry using the equipment to build uo their countries instead of doing half-assed jobs & stealing the money. True.

Actually, one of the BIGGEST ways to keep a secret is to convince the masses that the claim is to ridiculous to even consider. The Christians say that one of the Devil's biggest tricks on humanity is convincing people that he does NOT exist....lol. Whether that's true or not is besides the point though. The point is...... Like UFOs, secret Cabals, and other mysteries that most of the public seem to be skeptical about, it would seem that one of the greatest ways to keep the information secret and secure from the masses is to put it out IN THE OPEN freely for people to believe and accept or reject....knowing most people would find it too ridiculous to believe and reject it. Kind of like when we were talking about the other week about Zombies and spirits being trapped in bottles and you and Troy rejected it. If it is true, they don't have to worry about you trying to steal that knowledge because you find it too ridiculous to even consider in the first place. So those WITH that ability remain secure and comfortable in that elite position. Remember, people rejected the idea of Epstein Island for a long time because they thought it was conspiratorial and too ridiculous to even consider.

ProfD There is no shortage of engineers, architects, scientists, construction workers & tradespeople, etc., in African countries. Not to mention those living abroad could take their knowledge back home. They don't have to depend on non-Black foreigners. You're absolutely right. I haven't been to Africa yet so I don't know who is there, but I've MET enough Africans in the United States alone with the skills to rebuild the entire continent of Africa and make it a safe and prosperous place to be! Of the thousands of Africans I've met....most of them are intelligent and educated as well as industrious. I used to ask...like you still do...why couldn't they use those skills and energy they have here to build up Africa??? I stopped asking that question because I think I KNOW why now...lol. Those charitable donations sent home is the main thing keeping the people afloat in the face of greed & corruption. Yes, and I think also much of those donations sent back home are helping to FUND greed and corruption. Don't think the mayor, chief, leader of a territory or even president of the nation doesn't know WHO is getting large amounts of money from family abroad and how much they're getting. And don't think they aren't trying to get THEIR cut of it! I'm sure many families are put on notice that if the government officials don't get THEIR cut of the money Mbuke is sending back to the village....then nobody will. They'll cut off the flow. Everybody in the village or province....from the governor on down to the kids in school....is relying on the money Mbuke is sending back from his Uber job. There is a deeper issue that makes people greedy & corrupt. Yes...lack of intelligence is the other issue besides laziness. The Nation of Islam used to teach us why we shouldn't lie or steal. They taught that stealing takes away from the creativity of the individual. Although I understood what they were saying I didn't realize HOW deep it was until living longer and maturing more into a BETTER understanding. When you rely on stealing and hand-outs for your sustenance, you not only get lazy but your mind stops working on coming up with innovative ways to generate wealth. That part starts to atrophy from lack of use. It is harder motivating people to work a back-breaking job that only pays $10-20 dollars per day. Like a Nigerian woman I argue with often likes to do, I'll hold up 3 fingers and say "3 points to make"..........lol. First, I know you are just giving an example but the question is why are Africans getting paid in DOLLARS anyway instead of their national currencies??? Second, the GOVERNMENT should ensure that it's citizens are getting decent wages for their work so that the compensation is worth the effort, whether they are working directly for the government or for private firms charged with paying them a decent wage. Surely they can accomplish this. Third, that's one of the times where having a BRAIN comes in handy....lol. Why are people performing back breaking labor in such a great age of technology? Eli Whitney saw Black folks performing hard work and invented the cotton gin! Surely as a people we've become far more advanced and have far more tools at our disposal in 2026! Africans themselves need to invent technology where the work isn't so hard....instead of waiting on White folks or Asians to do it. ....ofcourse you'll say that White folks will steal it from them if they do, lol.

frankster Information is the beginning of Power.... Suppose you found a herb that leads to immortality....would you share it with the world? No Absolutely not. or Suppose you were 500yr old would you tell the world? That's a good question/point. I wouldn't tell the world that either. I suspect there ARE quite a few people...especially in positions of power...who are living hundreds of years and aren't disclosing that information. The fact that I wouldn't disclose this information tells me that there is a high probability that there are others who DO have this information and aren't disclosing it to the world; and probably for the same reasons I wouldn't.

ProfD I just find it amusing that immigrants pour so much energy & effort into fleeing their home countries instead of building it up. Fear, ignorance, and laziness. Fear: Many of them flee from oppressive violent societies where trying to change things would likely get them or their families killed Ignorance: Many of them are simply not smart enough to build up their countries and economies to the level of the United States Laziness: Many of them are too lazy to stay home and put in the work necessary to build their economies like the U.S. Many of them are too lazy to even lay down concrete and pavement to walk and drive on. Walking up and down dirt roads from village to village kicking up dust and crawling into bed with dirty feet...lol. We don't see millions of FBA/AfroAmericans leaving the USA & showing at the borders of [insert country here]. That's because most would rather stay here where White folks...for the most part...are taking care of things and holding it down, lol. They'd start leaving the U.S.A if White folks started leaving in massive numbers first and build up an area for them to move into, lol. Many of them would go live on the Moon...or Mars...if White folks built and maintained a colony up there, lol. .....and I believe they have already. Off and on since the 60s a few FBA have left out of protest, but after a few weeks without electricity, running water, and goons with weapons standing on every corner mean mugging you about who you are and what you're doing in THEIR country -many have changed their minds and decided that America...with all of her faults...is still the best nation to be in. Before someone brings up ex-pat FBA/AfroAmericans living in pick a place....it pales in comparison to the # of people coming to the USA. True. People are flooding the United States by the MILLIONS...both legally and illegally. Get the wrong (or right?) President in charge, and THAT would stop it cold turkey. The nation would be so fucked up nobody would want to come here....lol.

No Necessitas mas!

She may be a White woman but the point still stands that "dark" is being used in a negative fashion or context. It's being equated to dangerous. Just like people often talk of "dark days" or "dark times" or " dark clouds are on the horizon". Or using "devil's food" to describe chocolate. These aren't just innocent terms....they are memes passed along from one generation to the next reenforcing anti-Black racism in the subconscious. If you associate dimness and darkness with negativity....when you see dark PEOPLE your mind automatically does the same.