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Cynique I'm not a basher of homosexuality or the LGBTQA+ people nor am I a promoter of their lifestyle. They are what they are. My observations and opinions of them are from a secular non-religious point of view. For example????

aka Contrarian You've sent 3 posts in a row at me. Why don't you post on the thread I actually MADE for you?

Actually, this is true....I haven't read you bragging or expressing personal details. But see, this is a case of "guilt by association". See.... When it comes to Cynique...you have to TOTALLY disagree with me....lol. If you agree with me on ANY level....then she'll start projecting and associate MY attributes with YOU and start calling YOU "this" "that" and the other...lol. Neither you NOR I have said anything homophobic....but look at how she called me a "homophobe" out of nowhere! But I've noticed this habit among some women in general. If they have a problem with a man on a particular point....instead of dealing with him on THAT point...they'll dump ALL of their frustrations and dislikes about society on him and project them. Your boyfriend is homophobic and abusive, but you don't confront HIM on it. But some poor innocent man who works in the grocery store who won't give you a discount on a can of tomato sauce is every bad name in the book and the personification of what's wrong with men in this society...lol. "I'm sorry ma'am but that sale expired a week ago and the system won't let me discount it" "Why are you so fucking lazy? All you have to do is go to Aisle F and see it for yourself! That's what's wrong with men our society today! They're such lazy losers. You're stuck at a dead-end job and probably didn't finish your education and you're angry about it. If you weren't such a misogynist and homophobe you'd probably be in management and not just a cashier. REAL men don't argue with women. So emotional, you are. You're probably a meth addict sleeping on your girlfriend's living room floor.....loser!"

frankster I said that if a set of genes are producing different results under the same conditions....then those genes are NOT the same. They're different, regardless as to how similar them may seem. Now how does your statement about twins coming from the same parents prove my position on this, wrong? Are you suggesting that twins share the exact same genes? Are you suggesting that the conditions twins experience in the womb are exactly the same since they share the same womb?

frankster Human beings exist before and some exist without any state. Yes. And they often didn't have any rights THEN that others respected. And I am telling you where to find it. No, what you are attempting to do is RE-directed me and MIS-lead me. YOU are the one talking about these things so as far as I'm concerned YOU are the source of this statement until you can prove otherwise. So I ask YOU to list these "unalienable rights that can't be taken away". You have already answered your own question....i need not answer it I didn't answer it because it was a question FOR YOU. I don't speak for YOU. YOU are the only human being who actually knows whether or not you've ever lied. This is why I'm asking you directly. Care to give me an answer?

Not sure what the blonde hair is all about but....... Maybe you find it funny because of what you probably DID to that woman to prevent that from EVER happening, lol.

Sometimes you HAVE to be redundant. Especially when you're dealing with slow learners...lol.

Is "Django Unchained" up there??? I don't remember seeing it. That was a VERY good film. Hard to believe this film is now 13 year old! Man.... I remember when people were talking about it like it was a televised Revolution, lol.

Which is one of the reasons I said what I did about polls and statistic several months ago.

Cynique Watta crock of shit coming from a letcher who misses no opportunity to salivate over and objectify black women as sex objects, who just recently boasted about expecting sexual compensation from any organization that accepted the dubious distinction of his membership. Your hypocrisy is incredible, your homophobia and misogny toxic. You know.... I'm getting a little tired of your disrespectful demeanor. ProfD The feminization of Black men and masculinization of Black women is another form of divide and conquer under the system of racism white supremacy Part of the agenda to DESTABILIZE the community and maintain a state of confusion and imbalance. The acceptance of effeminate in men and masculine in women behavior and images has been normalized especially when it comes to black folks. Notice how you don't see movies like this being produced by Arabs or Indians. They wouldn't allow their community to be disgraced like that. We know there are sissified Arabs and Indians; but you couldn't PAY an Arab or Indian man enough money to put on a wig and dress and do a movie portraying himself as an old Arab lady. He'd be too afraid of what would happen to him from some crazy zealot who catches wind of it! They often keep eachother in check when it comes to shit like that. Black men are not usually portrayed as *strong* characters and leaders in those movies. As said in another thread, I don't watch most of Tyler Perry's movies but it seemed to me in the handful I DID sit a few minutes through....the only strong positive male in the film was HIM. Reminds me of the preacher in the Black Church. He can be the only MAN in the church. Everybody else is either women or sissies. No other competition.

The problem is.....ABNORMALITY has been normalized in this society to the point that most people are fine with shit being "out of wack" anyway. For example..... Back in 1992 the video taped image of a Black man being BEATEN (not killed) by 4 cops was enough to set off days of rioting in a major city. Now, how many innocent unarmed Black men and women have been KILLED by cops and not so much as a protest is even organized. Police brutality has been "normalized" in many communities. Look at the vast amounts of homeless people who are crowded on the streets of nearly every major city in America today. If people would have saw this back in the 90s, they would have thought it was a scene off of some sort of dystopia movie. Homelessness has been "normalized" in this society. Even people getting tattoo on their faces has been "normalized" now to where you see it and it doesn't even shock you. I believe he actually SAID that if he was elected president you wouldn't have to worry about any more elections or something of that nature. When people openly tell you who they really are...BELIEVE them.

frankster Nonsense.... Two same parents can and do have different looking and sounding offsprings.....we see this even in twins - from the same egg and sperm. This is correct. So..... How does THAT fact tie into calling my previous post "nonsense"??? How does what you just typed dispute or contradict what I said about genes in the same environment producing different results???

frankster Natural Human Rights.... But rights...human or otherwise...aren't natural. They are granted by the State. I know you know and if not you know how to find out... Yeah. I find out by ASKING YOU. ....since you were the one who said it. One does not and should not answer a rhetorical gambit Rhetorical questions do not demand an answer...they in themself is both the question and the answer Seems to me that the INQUIRER would be the one to decide whether or not their question was "rhetorical", not the one being questioned. YOU have decided that my question was rhetorical. I haven't. It was an actual question that seeks an actual answer from you.

Point"S" I made multiple

The end of his presidency.......and the beginning of his Monarchy?

ProfD Apparently, there isn't enough incentive to do it. Integration killed the incentive. Many times Black folks find it easier to just play "ride along" and let White folks do the "grown folks stuff" it takes to actually manage and secure a society like: -construction -civil engineering -defense -policing -farming -urban planning As long as White folks in hard hats or uniforms are keeping society together, the average nigga is focused working just enough to keep the bills paid and spending the rest of the time and money having fun. If their community gets too dangerous and violent...rather than working on cleaning it up, they just stay out of the way and put up with it UNTIL they can find a way to move out with the White folks where they think things are a little safer and quieter. Like Neely Fuller Jr. said: Which way did the White folks go? If there were NO White folks around for them to run to and they HAD to solve their own problems, our people would learn REAL quick what works to reduce crime and violence in their communities. aka Contrarian Also, Chicago's population is over a million and the relationship between the number of people killed in proportion to the total population should be kept in mind. What???? Lol... The Southside ALONE has over a million people.

I haven't watched ANY of those "Madea" movies. Purposely. Nor have I watched Martin Lawrence's "Big Mamma" movies. I think both franchise films disgrace and insult Black women by portraying them as masculine and ultra-violent, and really those movies make them easier targets for racist violence. While the older White woman is portrayed as a sweet, kind hearted, cookie baking grand ma....Tyler's Madea portrays the older Black woman as a foul mouthed, combative, violent, half-masculine, heathen who not only deserves heavy handed treatment but is strong enough to and built to tolerate as much abuse as you can inflict on her. So the next time a White or Latino cop pulls over a Black woman....with the images of a tough foul mouthed Madea or Big Mama in his head....maybe he won't treat her the same as he would the more "delicate" and "lady like" White woman who isn't portrayed in that manner. I know a lot of our sisters and even some silly brothers take "pride" in our women being portrayed as STRONG and TOUGH and SHARP TONGUED. How foolish. All that does is take away ANY sympathy a racist enemy may have in dealing with her, that's all. There is NO benefit in our women being portrayed as strong, masculine, foul mouthed, and violent.....none.

harry brown Cicely Tyson?????? Well.... She was an EXCELLENT and LEGENDARY actress. Troy People loved it thought Madea was hilarious. I haven't watched ANY of those "Madea" movies. Purposely. Nor have I watched Martin Lawrence's "Big Mamma" movies. I think both franchise films disgrace and insult Black women and make them easier targets for racist violence. While the older White woman is portrayed as a sweet, kind hearted, cookie baking grand ma....Tyler's Madea portrays the older Black woman as a foul mouthed, combative, violent, masculine, heathen who not only deserves but is strong enough to and built to tolerate as much abuse and harsh treatment as you can inflict on her.

ProfD It is great to have conversations with folks from different countries. First-hand knowledge and perspective. That, and I find women with accents and from foreign cultures exceptionally attractive...lol. People are more alike than different regardless of nationality and culture. True. However some of those differences are so stark and appalling that it overrides any similarities we may share. I don't care how much we may have in common, if I smell your body odor before I'm even within hearing distance....it's a wrap, lol. Latinas and trailer park white women do the same sh8t. I've heard Latinos smack their lips but I haven't see White people male OR female do this. Or Asians either.

IF Trump sends the National Guard or federal officers to Chicago...and that's a big "if"....they're going to do the same thing they're doing in D.C. NOTHING. ...to actually solve the violence and crime problem. If they go, he'll make sure they go to the downtown and tourist areas where they'll be VISIBLY present and make wealthy White folks feel safe and protected. He's not sending them to the hoods where the gangs dwell and the violence is really going down; because reducing violence is NOT his priority.

ProfD There you go again stealing the thunder on BOTH accounts....lol. 1. When you asked the question in the first sentence, I knew it was rhetorical and I was going to respond that you KNOW why they don't stay and build their own countries...lol. 2. Also, I was going to tell you that I too get a kick out of standing there with my arms folded listening to them 'splaining why they're still in America 20 and 30 year later after finishing school or accomplishing whatever they said they were here to accomplish and not back home where they claimed they were going. One excuse after another. The more I deal with Africans, the more I see the slick and slippery ways of a lot of our own people in them despite the cultural differences...lol. Every race and ethnic group has their slick and slippery...janky...side. But it seems like there is some sort of "genetic" blue print for people of African descent regardless of nationality or culture where you find similar behavior traits among us. Like Black women smacking their lips at eachother in contempt...lol. Or Black men lowering their voices when they want to attract the woman their talking to...lol.

And you know what? I think they could actually do a MUCH better job at providing REAL security in Chicago's Black neighborhoods than the current police force or any federal forces that Trump "may" send there. Because they'd have more of the respect from the community who'd know they are there not as an occupying force but as their brothers. Doing it out of LOVE and CARE. The true objective of the enemy is NOT to prevent crime, but to CONTROL it and CONTAIN within certain communities. Which is why most of the federal contracts that the Nation of Islam used to have to secure various housing projects around the nation including one right there in D.C. (something "Mansions"??? I forgot the name of it) were eventually canceled. Because the FOI were literally doing TOO good of a job preventing crime and keeping the communities safe. Something the enemy doesn't want. They want crime and violence in the hood and the FOI was dissolving that and the disfunction that leads to it. And did I add....the FOI does all of this UNARMED? A lot of people have the misconception that the Nation of Islam doesn't use weapons including gats. That's not exactly true. I'd be happy to explain the official policy of FOI concerning the use of weapons for all interested. It's quite simple.....lol

I never was too much of a fan of Tyler Perry OR his films. It's not just because he's on that alphabet agenda, but....they just don't hit with me. They seem more geared towards women. They focus too much on emotion and intuition for entertainment. They don't have that "edge" that'll keep your attention in a film. Trying to watch his films is like focusing on the gift CARD and how sweet and thoughtful it is, rather than the actual gift in the box.

Nuri Muhammad can drop some jewels of his own. Don't get him started talking about the negativity "niggativity" in our communities. Or listen to his adventures with the FOI doing security in the Robert Taylor and Cabrini Greene housing projects in Chicago back in the day. ....my man will have you spell bound.

If you want to learn about Africans, all you have to do is come to Western Michigan and THESE Africans here will teach you what you need to know...lol. We literally have Africans from every single country on the Continent. And an ABUNDANCE of them from half of those countries. When I ask some of the older ones why they chose Western Michigan to settle in, most of them gave an interesting answer. They said it was right between Detroit and Chicago. 2 places with plenty of Black people and major airports....but far enough away from both that you don't have the crime or negative influence of a lot of Black Americans, lol.