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Thistle and Verse hosting a panel featuring 
@Lisa_teabag , @atullerwrites , and @jellybeanrae  to discuss subgenres in sff and sff-ish genres that predate the label. Read through the thread for more info on the panelists! 

Yvette Lisa Ndlovu is a Zimbabwean sarungano (storyteller). She is the co-founder of the 
@voodoonauts
 Summer Workshop for Black SFF writers. Her debut short story collection Drinking from Graveyard Wells is currently available for purchase.
https://www.kentuckypress.com/9780813196978/drinking-from-graveyard-wells/

A Jersey native, Celestine Martin writes whimsical and flirty paranormal romance that celebrates the beauty of everyday magic. She’s inspired to write happily ever afters and happy for now endings starring the people and places close to her heart. 
https://linktr.ee/celestinemartin

Abriana Tuller (she/her) is a Vegas native who has just acquired her dream job of becoming a Micro Fiction editor and Fiction co-editor for Solarpunk magazine. Along with having an education background, Abriana is a former journalist.
 

Ringing in the New YEar Book Tag 2023 from Thistle and Verse
mentioned

• Ties that bind from Tia Miles
• Darknesses from Lachelle Seville
• Early Departures from Justin A Reynolds
• Delicious Monsters from Liselle Sambury
• Wakanda Forever from Ryan Coogler , Joe Robert Cole
• Heaven Official's Blessing from Mo Xiang Tong Xiu
• Of One Blood: Or, The Hidden Self from Pauline Hopkins 
• The Brothers Jetstream: Leviathan from Zig Zag Claybourne
• Forest of a Thousand Daemons: A Hunter's Saga from D.O. Fagunwa , Wole Soyinka (Translation)
• The Things That Fly in the Night from Giselle Liza Anatol
• A History of Nigeria from Toyin Falola
• The Gatekeeper's Staff: An Old Gods Story from Antoine Bandele
• Flowers for the Sea from Zin E. Rocklyn
• The Infinite from Patience Agbabi
• For the Culture Readathon from TyBooks01
• Drunken Dream of the Past from Sun Yujing performed by Lin Zhixuan

my comment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKreFvghrKk&lc=UgxXtsU2FVBC5yJcoOd4AaABAg

Most THistle and Verse interview

with Kel Coleman

2022 end of year review- her award that she earned and books she has bought for 2023

Classic reviews

Hide and Seeker

Ring SHout

A Song of Wraith and Ruin

The Space Between Worlds

The Famished Road

Queen of the Conquered

Thistle and Verse post in my AALBC 

https://aalbc.com/tc/search/?q=thistle and verse&quick=1&type=core_statuses_status

Thistle and Verse, Genre Book Tag

If you're free this Saturday at 2PM EDT, Thistle and Verse will be interviewing Brent Lambert live <Please use the video interview link below!!!> Feel free to watch or stop by with questions. They will be talking about 3 of his fantasy short stories
Blood Song - man with magical abilities makes deal to save his terminally ill boyfriend
Faithful Delirium - zealots ravage land in search of cure for their ailing goddess
Vanity Among Worms - lonely man who's new in town visits a mysterious gay bar
Brent Lambert website: https://www.brentclambert.com/
Video Interview Link - Use it to see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15dOHHMAvZ4

Alexis Henderson author of the witching Q&A on Thistle and Verse with Chloe Rose

Initial 
The ghosts in savannah are mostly wraiths.
2:40 
Sequel writing is not for every writer but the financial environment of writers in modernity gears audiences to love getting sequels eternally, ala JAmes Bond or Statian Comic Book characters longevity or Golgo 13 , and industry loves feeding the desire they prompted cause it is easier to gauge profitability or trends than with porviding continuous new stories over a similar time.
4:12
writers at their best always reach their comfortability
5:17 
a great question is offered, are the characters in young adult fiction, the main plot characters , age bounded?
I think the modern readership has been manipulated, especially in the usa, to view genres with many bounds on the characters that film them. The Neverending story isn't a children's only book. 
7:08 
Alexis provides hint to her next work, she says if you like the witching you will like the next work and she is in an anthology
8:05 
Imagine a romance with that angel in hell boy golden army as a main character.
9:04
Yes, Chloe , the common reader is disconnected to desiring short stories. The world of telenovelas/movie series pushes the idea that every story must be this modern epic length. 
12:27
Interesting, I think many females like Margaret Atwood's no nonsense style  , especially in handmaids.  Yes, the south has a very agrarian relationship to spiritual. 
14:50 
Chloe ask Alexis a question never asked before by the writers viewpoint.
17:40 
Chloe asks a question I never think to ask, what edit was the toughest, I will steal that question
The structure of each of the witch's and the writers relationship to their genesis or life is good viewing/listening.
23:50 
tracy chapman shout
30:38 
yes, the bond villain is never alone, sympathy for the devil
I agree, making the financially poorest be the one who must work to improve a larger society is a dysfunction
32:26
She loved Ursula from the little mermaid. Alexis gives her position on witches in media. 
33:53 
Chloe asked Alexis who will she want to play the characters in film world
Timothée Hal Chalamet
Indya Moore for emmanuel
Nicole kidman then Tracy chapman for vera
37:56 
she references her southern baptist upbringing as a potential source to a scene in the book
38:50 
brianna collett is the voice actor for the audio book
42:23
an interesting sheparding fact, on jacob rams
we give rams a bad rap like all hoofed creatures cause of the early christian churches criminalization of the more ancient roman culture where the hoofed fauns and hoofed god pan were considered positive entities and thus criminalized the people of the countryside, the villains, who still worshipped greaco roman deities as christianity grew
...
GOOD SHOW
 

Movies That Move We review US 2019

My THoughts
like the montage of reviews
2:10 so many black female writers enjoy PEele's style. I do to but many black female writers tend to start off saying that.
5:40 exactly, I wonder if a 1960s hippie's old plan written on home made paper somewhere wasn't what hands across america stemmed from
7:50 spider grandmother https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider_Grandmother
11:36 yes, anansi, the story teller, remember anansi has a caribbean version , same name, different stories
13:09 random thought, was the homeless guy taken to a hospital carrying the sign some sort of guard for the doppels/tethers?

Questions how we respond to those who have less than us? What would you do if you came face to face with your darker side?

Your questions are strong. Collective reply as opposed to individual reply. In the film US, the tether abigail answers the question to individual reply by exchanging places. but the originally untethered abigail, replied to her individual revenge with a collective reply, leading all the tethers. and oddly enough, in the end, both abigails got what they wanted, in the end, the collective reply of the originally untethered abigal with hands across america happened with her side her household all killed while the tethered got her replacement life with only her male son, the "mulatto" knowing the truth about her. and her whole household lives. The power of nature here is underrated. I even argue an element of "The man who fell to earth" is used very well in this film's premise. In a man who fell to earth, the government keeps the "alien" man in a base but over time the base is forgotten. How isn't fully explained but whatever happened, the people in government who knew about this or kept it organized died or forgot or moved on, so the installation ran on autopilot, and became decrepit. like the tether's world, its sitting there. Whomever in government was supposed to manage them, stopped or moved on or died or something, where they still get electricity, but their existence is uncared for. And I like that theme of whatever the government was planning couldn't survive nature. But to your first question, to whether people have more or less, whether we want freedom or revenge, we can respond as part of a group or individually. But nature does have influence over things, At the end the tricked abigail was still naive when she was originally tricked and the tethered abigal is still dangerous when she originally forced a switch. Their varying sense of individualism or community didn't change. The tricked abigal, felt the tethered abigail in the first place, she was always communal. the tethered abigail was always an individual, never once interested in helping another tethered escape. So no matter how you respond to another, you will always be yourself eventually.

Well, I will answer, what will I do if I come into contact with one of my infinite other sides? There is a version of me that is more positive than me. and thus, I am the more negative to that version. to answer the question. I don't know. Good question. the engineer in me wants to ask, how did we even meet in the first place. Nature has rules. how are we meeting is my first question, not necessarily how we will get along. But I will say this. The key to coexisting side another interpretation of you, is to be anti christian. I will explain. If you look at zoarasters-ancient kemet-aztec mythology-taoism, most spiritual belief systems accept that nature is not good or bad but all things. But the christian belief system is starkly variant. the christian tradition says god is good, thus that which is not good is not of the essence of life. If you see a version of you doing negative things that you wouldn't do, if you have in your mind the idea that to do negative things is against nature, then you will imply that the other you is unnatural and thus communication problems, coexistence problems.

Thistle and Verse

Live Discussion

Kat Blaque

Logan Paul is WRONG about NOPE

Thistle and Verse

Trivia Night

Recommendations Gender Bender

Recommendations Author You've Never Read Before

Recommendations Rocks and Gems

Post-Ignyte Award Thoughts- Doesn't she look pretty

Tamara Jeree Interview

MY THOUGHTS

Tamara Jeree told a summation of her story to now
She made this game 
https://www.harrytuffs.com/fallen-london#:~:text=Fallen London is a free%2C browser-based%2C literary RPG,Ballad of Johnny Croak%2C and The Icarian Cup).

Games is a collaborative effort. 
COMMENT IN STREAM: And, the financial reward too Tamara... I am not saying it is impossible, but usually it is better if you have a bigger name to get a financial reward for the work 
COMMENT: I don't know if you guys will talk about modern long epic poems?  but what do you think of that audience's size? 
COMMENT: ahh ok Chloe, I know many different poets, but I don't think the audience is particularly large
COMMENT: And literary games demand dialog, all games demand plot but literary games demand dialog use
COMMENT: Cthulu alert:) I always say that the second a tentacle god thing is mentioned:) 
COMMENT: I never tried gender neutrality hmm I don't feel it yet
COMMENT: I think gender neutral is a smart choice for the future for certain audience 
COMMENT: that is interesting... that is a poor reader who assumes because of the writer the characters are a certain way ... thanks for sharing the story 
COMMENT: Tamara do you have a particular artists you like, check out an artist whose name is GDBee , gdbee has a lovely style in terms of mermaids and aquatic female beings
COMMENT: i wonder what disney will do with that project, i know ariel will be black but i wonder if they are manipulating preproduction /production heavily 
COMMENT: Damn creatures of the night:) if i hear about one more vampire story:) I will eat my own gizzard
COMMENT: Tamara or CHloe or other what story you didn't write had your favorite structure of a sea being ? 
COMMENT: The gift of THistle and Verse questionaires:) that is a good one 
COMMENT: I think one of the issue is reading poetry too, I will never forget a classmates delivery style:) 
COMMENT: Tamara did you see, valerien and the city of a thousand planets, and bubble scharacter, in terms of morphing and identity ?
COMMENT: yes for us writers Tamara but I think general audiences can lose interest on poetry based on how it is read
COMMENT Valerian and laureline is a bande dessinee or a comic book, franco /belgium, but a story  was made into a film, valerian and the ~  the director of the film made  fifth element
COMMENT: I think all of you will like Cyber 6, the argentine/italian comic, the lead character is a cyborg/clone that dresses as male, they made into a cartoon but some big story elements was missing
COMMENT: ode to lithium, lovely title 
COMMENT: less loud Tamara:) I will love to see how many people actually yell when they type in UPPER CASE:) 
COMMENT: @Thistle & Verse  your right, yes, robert burns halloween
COMMENT: la luna, moon poems, ... great memory Chloe, good interviewing 
COMMENT: I concur, i start early too:) this year I used nanowrimo to make the content to edit for next year, i am nearly done
COMMENT: Tamara, I admit, the reason was I am drawing more so doing both and it  takes time and thus I need to push so I can get sleep ... i am becoming a vampire:) 
COMMENT: take your time Tamara and beyond recommendations, it can be from the work you like to read the most, damn what anybody else thinks, that is not yours
COMMENT: Do you think long titles are wise for anthologies, thanks for the photo chloe
COMMENT: and what determines horror is not the same 

Soft science by frannie choi
Odes to lithium from shira erlichman
Julian K Jarboe's Everyone on the Moon Is Essential Personnel

VIDEO NOTES
Tamara Jeree's socials
website: https://www.tamarajeree.com/ 
twitter: https://twitter.com/TamaraJeree

Recent works/ preorderlinks
Unfettered Hexes: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fngs-fr-th-mmrs/carpe-noctem-vampires-through-the-ages

Link 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7MA9YGyyfQ

An interview between Brent Lambert, an initiator of Fiyah magazine aside Chloe in Thistle and Verse

MY THOUGHTS

I wasn't a big fan of the xmen, loved storm:) 

every gay man has his english teacher:) that is a good one

THistle is a funny interviewer, she never allows interviewee's to look down on themselves

It isn't hyperbole, lambert is right to say, every story has a piece of one's soul, unlike him I think the issue isn't the quantity but the part of one's soul. Is it one's hope or one's wickednes or other?

I concur to his point about social media usage. Too few artists spend time supporting other artists while more time saying what leads to clicks or likes.

Interesting, he keeps track of what he reads on a spreadsheet. Nice detail

Him and Chloe love their worlds:) 

Lambert spoke a simple truth, one many artists have opined, no work of art is ever perfect, meaning a complete work. 

I am glad circa 34:31 lambert said that characters were easy to write who were inflexible, I will not say one dimensional , all humans beings have the same dimensionality. 
He said it wasn't hard on a craft level, but a personal level. 
But, are readers right for not wanting, protagonists who are not flexible or fluir? or writers poorly using the craft, when they don't write flexible, culturally open characters.

Lambert made clear something I always say, write what you know:) write from your soul? more better, create from your soul

Thank you lambert for saying that, the industry pushes sympathy.

circa 50:36 thank you Lambert for saying you don't need to write to be published, the financial capitalistic mentality to art is incorrect, you need to make money but create

Chloe asked a great question, what question Lambert want asked that isn't? 
Lambert's question he want is: how will his work be remembered.

He adds, a time will come where your skill will not be equal to vision
His next project, I paraphrase him: mr and mrs smith with gayness and blackness:) enjoy:)

VIDEO LINK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15dOHHMAvZ4

FIYAH MAGAZINE
https://www.fiyahlitmag.com/shop/