richardmurray Posted November 5, 2024 Report Posted November 5, 2024 I admit, I am not a fan of slasher films; their stories extremely rarely , I will not say never, hold up for me; and their stories are not meant to. The goal of a slasher film is to get the audience to jump scare as much as possible, and that is fine. Ma from 2019 is a slasher film. It is meant to get you to jump scare. But the best part of the movie is the tiniest bit, and I have thought about it coinciding with my thoughts on fantasy films en large and how they rarely involve the historic usa. The best comparison to visualize my point is taking the flashback scenes in MA 2019 and the character of Rose Rita, played by vanessa anne williams, in A House With a Clock in its walls 2018. In the original book, Rose Rita is white and to be blunt, a tomboy of the purest type, think red haired peppermint patty with sneakers and no sandals. In the film Rose Rita is a colored child of the 1950s USA, one of few non white children, no not the only one, and dresses in the most cutest pink outfits of all the girls in the school. What is my point? I am a fan of the book or the film House with a clock in its walls. But the film has a fantasy 1950s usa. In Ma 2019, the flashbacks of the title character are honest. She is the only black child in the school in the 1960s, and she is having a lonely miserable time. Which is historically accurate. Many people of all phenotypes love to parade the moment the black kids went into the all white schools but few admit that this was a horror for most of the kids. I recall one of them, who is on the schoolboard in new orleans, she voted against integrated schools as an adult, and she is in photo being one of the kids used to force integration in the schools of the same area in the past. So, I like how MA 2019 through the flashbacks shows three layers of negative mental energy. The first layer is historical, pure truth, integration don't work on the ground. It works in laws and works in historical revisions but in historical honesty it is usually a nightmare for the minority individuals involved in it. Now the flashbacks do good to add two more layers. The second is mandatory for the slasher. Ma when a child is the shortest female, the roundest female, the female with the thickest glasses. So, she the only black student in the school and she has all the aspects of the mythological wall flower girl. The third layer completes the psychosis, the lead jock boy in the school has noticed her quiet noticing of him and sets her up for a humiliation, yes Carrie. In Ma's case he invites her to a few hangouts, she even says she goes to parties a lot which shows she is very proud. And after some comfortability invites her to meet him in a closet. A white girl in the school gives her advice on giving blowjobs and Young MA enters the dark closet. She performs fellatio to the boy in the closet she think the head jock, saying some mentally disturbing things like will you talk to me after this, and after she is finished, she exist sthe closet and the jock boy has all the students of the school present to humiliate young MA, asking the boy she didn't know, who is the white male nerd character, how was it? and the nerd boy says, it was great. and young Ma runs off and her mental state is now complete from the films telling. Though I say they missed a trick not showing her come home and be asked by her parents , how was school and telling her to toughen up for this great opportunity, which to me makes the mental breakdown complete, but to each writer their own. In house with a clock on its walls 2018 you wouldn't realize 1950s usa the way it was. In MA 2019 you realize 1960s usa. And I love that, I am tired of producers or writers themselves demanding stories that fit the way they want the populace in the usa to work, instead of how it is, and it was never and is not united. I know the flashback is seven minutes maximum but that is the best part of the movie for me. Why? It takes an honest USA scenario, the most common scenario in the usa historically with integration. That of the black alone amongst many whites , totally isolated, totally frustrated, and trying to find something positive. It adds the common slasher film device of male or female child outcast through her physicality, and the moment of great humiliation which is the cause of all the slashing of course. It doesn't deny the drama while it is true to the history + reality of modern usa. The usa isn't the government or populace under a government people want it to be, the usa is the government or populace under a government that it is. And that should be embraced. Yes in the film, times have changed, group up Ma deals with a set of kids who are in a far more integrated school and who don't seem to have any inclinations for such humiliations. But, the damage is true and can not be fled from, has to be lived through. As for the slashing well, I argue, the scenes of group up Ma enslaving her daughter to a life, the same way ma was enslaved, or the eroticisms of Ma to the jock boy when a man or his son are themselves stunning alongside the slasher violence. But the slashing is nothing beyond what hasn't been shown overall in the slasher film library. But the origin, yes the flashbacks, that is great cinema. I share this video cause it only displays the flashback, what say you? One last thing, like Ready Player One, while young Ma, played by Kyanna Simone Simpson is the shortest or roundest, with thickest glasses in the school, she is still very pretty. Hollywood doesn't still know how to get a female thespian who has a physicality that will make her chosen last usually. To be blunt, yung MA looks like a black daphne from scooby doo which, if you see how many women or girls dress as daphne today well... not exaclty, the most undesired physique. 0:07 your head back to the rock piles tonight 0:09 from when we come 0:11 history a few beers whatever yeah see 0:17 all night 0:21 we'll be fine 0:29 [Applause] 0:30 [Music] 0:45 sorry drinking without help or didn't 0:49 show without oh yeah are you sitting 0:58 down weren't you up dance with every I 1:01 guess I was thinking of you 1:03 uh you're not got a lot of parties oh no 1:09 oh no it's no it's it's fine there's a 1:12 first time for everything 1:13 absolutely I like you're here thanks I 1:21 like yours 1:24 [Music] 1:46 it's your first time isn't it 1:49 do you know you're doing ya gonna get on 1:54 your knees put it in your mouth 2:00 move your head backwards forwards 2:05 believe me and we'll take them hot 2:10 thanks Mercedes 2:15 [Music] 2:22 [Music] 2:33 hello let's I good yeah 3:03 then are you 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5:47 other one anyway all the other flavors i just i can't i can't oh you mean the um 5:52 the white cheddar white cheddar isn't good on everything it's not it's not good on every 5:58 no no it's not good at all well i guess both of us are bougie you have those 6:04 i guess both of us are [ __ ] because who eats scones to watch a movie 6:09 you know you know you have to drink my tea with my pinky up is gonna give me an extra bouncer 6:16 listen the other day i went out not ordered oolong tea and that the guy seemed really impressed by it he was 6:22 like i was like would you stop looking at me and bring it 6:27 what's the problem here doesn't everyone order that no 6:33 i don't know what's wrong with the rest of them but they should i don't either we need to bring them up to our standard 6:39 i know i know and maybe it's because i said it right too i don't know but anyway 6:45 today we are talking about 6:52 ma 2019 6:59 leading actress octavia spencer 7:05 and this is a big deal this is a big deal it's a very big deal 7:11 you have um a black leading lady in a horror film 7:18 yes yes yes and she she did the thing she did the 7:24 thing what were your thoughts on this one 7:30 you know it takes a special kind of 7:35 person to go from the help to this 7:42 if you really want to prove that you are a true actress you have to transform yourself 7:48 into something that's unrecognizable now when you look at her physically you know she's lost some weight for you 7:55 know since she did the help and that type of stuff hairstyle change you know wardrobe changing all the stuff that movies do 8:02 but it's that persona that comes out that makes you different the way 8:07 your you know your glare is and your tone and you know the inflection in your voice and your mannerisms 8:15 she did it and i was trying to think of the last time 8:20 that i can remember because i didn't do my research you know i'm here to let you all know that i'm the fluff person on 8:26 the show nick they can't die and do the research so 8:31 i'm like oh my the little sister just shows up and just i'm just like [Laughter] 8:41 so if you watch enough of these you're like well you know what and we really want some deep insight it's don mckay 8:47 and we just want i'm stealing some goofy and i'm out the box like what was that 8:54 nicole is there for that but i was trying to remember and and you probably did your research better than i 8:59 did because y'all know i didn't i didn't do a whole lot of deep diving on this one i did watch it three times 9:06 but dive up because my first of all the fact you watch it three times my head is off 9:12 to you because you know that means i have to leave my house three times because what i'm not going to do 9:17 is watch it in my home and that's for us to have a discussion about that 9:23 on our you know on our media platform that we have you know where we kind of get you know 9:28 this wasn't but 9:35 it wasn't it wasn't well it doesn't give you the phones like it doesn't give you creeps that someone's going to come in your house 9:41 and stab you in your sleep but it really it really makes you think 9:46 about how relationships with people and 9:51 you know and how folks if they if they are psychotic once they 9:58 once they realize they want you dead they just want you dead it's just that's it by my point blank and i don't 10:06 know what is worse to be hunted like that or just be shot randomly because you think 10:12 like that some thought went in to what she did but getting back to the research 10:18 i think the last time uh not the not indeed the last time but 10:24 this kind of took me back to beloved but love it was like that for me you know when it came to how oprah was 10:32 totally different and below if if anybody's seen beloved nothing oprah has ever done did she ever 10:38 look like her even when she did sofia in the color purple so 10:44 even you know and how that even if that movie evolved how just dark and sinister it was you're just like wow when is that 10:51 going to let up that's what i'm looking for when is the sinister part it's like can we get some rainbows some pixie 10:57 blasts it i'm glad you mentioned beloved because 11:03 we got to add that one to our list too because every time i see oprah in something 11:10 i'm like you can act oh my gosh she can act even though i've seen her act before 11:16 i'm still like she can act every year because she because you're she she's 11:22 like a triple threat you know when it comes to what it is that she does and 11:28 that it's the sinister part for me when it came to mom it was like what did you think about it 11:35 um again seeing her come off of roles where she was either the maid or she was doing 11:41 something where she's being sassy or funny or whatever this was a shift 11:48 and it's like you said it's not just that she was 11:54 just being creepy is that she was being calm creepy 12:03 it was that oh hey you want to come to my house and then all of a sudden there was a 12:09 temper and it was like i'm ramping up oh let me pull it back 12:14 i'ma deal with you differently and it was like oh snap 12:21 and there was her just to give you the setting the 12:26 i know the movie was filmed in mississippi and i forget the town that 12:32 it was in i don't think this setting was actually in mississippi 12:37 i forget that the the community that it was in i think they it made this more west 12:43 coast yeah my memory serves right i think this was like nevada or something like that 12:51 where it was supposed to take place but anyway the the town wasn't 12:56 a character as much as [Music] 13:02 the community if that makes sense it was supposed to be a small quaint um not so diverse community 13:10 yeah any town usa you know kind of what kind of what they portray and i hate to not make the 13:16 comparison i'm going to how did it portray um the movies um on 13:23 hallmark to be that you know it's it's it's it's not the script you 13:29 know you know you know it's not like when you look at a skyline oh that's chicago oh right or you know you look at 13:35 the golden gate bridge and say oh that's california it's one of those things where this could happen in any small 13:40 town in any state you know and like i said the main feature is it 13:46 was not a diverse community literally it was octavius spencer and the black 13:53 kid were really the only and 13:59 another black person they were the only black people there 14:04 okay when i say not diverse i mean not diverse okay to set this up right for you 14:13 and so um that that kind of works this way into 14:18 the story even though it's not the major part of the story but 14:23 it gives you the picture of part of the reason why in her youth 14:29 she was the outcast yeah okay um 14:35 and they do little flashbacks between her teen years and then into her adult years 14:42 and they give you the sense that you know times have changed and people are more accepting in 14:48 this you know fast forward 2019 present day 14:54 world but you know but you don't forget right because trauma 15:00 ptsd and ill treatment and and how that that that pressure 15:07 cooker of all that going on right but you know you can't you know you you really you really can't 15:14 mess with certain people because you don't know how it's going to manifest and 15:19 i think that's what you know if i could just fast forward to say to take away from this is is that be 15:26 careful how you treat you be very careful okay you know you think that you treat people 15:32 any kind of way say whatever you want to say do whatever you want to do and then you don't realize 15:37 that karma can be visited upon you in a variety of ways right and it could even 15:44 be visited upon you by the same people that you just you just don't know right you think a person is weak and 15:51 then you then you mess around and find out that they're crazy 15:57 and you know crazy out trumps well what psych is going on yes psychotic out 16:04 trumps whatever level of mean girl you ever thought you had because this person 16:09 is going to kill you bottom line and your whole family and not think about the consequences and 16:15 they're willing to die on that hill so i want to be taken out by the police i want to slip my own rest i want to go to 16:21 jail and sit there for 25 to life i'm going to you know ride the lightning that's what they call the electric chair 16:28 i want to take that needle because at the end of the day i got out of it what i want to get out of it which was 16:34 getting you back and and and can we can we just mention that she worked for 16:41 a vet so she had access to a whole lot of stuff 16:47 and wasn't afraid to use it 16:52 would you know that's interesting so can we say that she treat these people 16:58 like animals ultimately yes 17:10 so and here here's the thing what i notice is in most of the movie rating places 17:17 the movie got low ratings and i think the reason why i got low ratings it was like 5 out of 10 17:23 stars in some places it was two stars and honestly 17:29 it's not a bad movie but it's not a horror movie 17:34 you know like we're talking about it on the psychological and it's more of a psychological thriller 17:41 yeah and i think one of the things that happens is as soon as you put 17:48 a black actor in a prominent role all of a sudden the industry doesn't know what to do 17:54 with the movie because they're more worried about okay is a mainstream audience gonna show up 18:00 to see this because are they gonna go are they gonna go see a black actor this is not typically how we would cast this 18:08 and i think that's that that might be some of what happened with this movie 18:15 i think they they took the risk and labeled it as a horror where it would have been just fine if they simply 18:22 simply labeled it as a psychological ecological builder 18:27 but you know what i i think that when you look at the genre as a whole 18:35 whether it was a black actress or not and i do agree with you what you're saying when it comes specifically to mom 18:41 have you ever noticed that they really do have a difficult time labeling things 18:47 like that you know other movies as well you know they'll call it a horror film but really 18:52 it leans more on the psychological part because i think that people are more comfortable 18:57 with being afraid in the general sense of like i said 19:03 someone coming to coming to my house and killing me in my sleep 19:08 we're trying to you know run me down in the woods and i fall you know 19:15 i put that in hollywood are you watching so um 19:23 i think that they're more comfort people on the surface are more comfortable with that than 19:29 than really getting in the head of somebody that's a lunatic i think that when i think that when you 19:35 look at some of these movies they throw them in the horror genre because they're like you know what you'll sell the tickets people will be 19:41 more comfortable with it because a lot of people don't look at the you know all the information when they see a movie they look at the trailers it 19:48 is the commercials they see on television they look at those little snippets and they run based off that and what they put on television 19:55 is the highlights and that may be the those pieces may be the scariest parts of the movie like the shopkins 20:03 but really the movie is a little bit on a slow uptick because it's building on 20:08 the suspense right right so i think you're right 20:13 that they didn't know how to label it but i also think that for marketing purposes they mislabel a lot of stuff 20:20 period a lot of stuff to me that's kind that's come out within the last five years have 20:26 has leaned more on the psychological thriller end than horror to me like pure 20:31 porn so yeah because i was really frustrated when the way they labeled um 20:39 oh what was it the way they labeled us yeah no not us um 20:47 get out because they labeled that 20:53 i think horror and comedy and i was like why would you label it 20:58 horror and comedy and once they did it i figured out why 21:06 it's kind of the same reason um the way peop independent authors used 21:11 to um categorize their books on am*zon and so 21:16 am*zon tightened up their their stuff yeah yeah you you would find remember obscore 21:23 obscure categories you could put it in to make sure you got something got one 21:28 yeah really the best seller list you know so i was just like uh 21:34 i was like but that's not comedy that this ain't funny the black folks this is 21:39 what scares black folk i'm like i don't know who's laughing it's not black people i mean there's 21:46 been funny parts but no and that's what it was it was the funny the funny parts were with the best 21:52 friend period everything else was creepy scary 21:58 i still can't get out my hand we want to get back to this movie when dude ran up on him at night that 22:04 right there took me clean out the fact i'm still sitting before you is a miracle because i tell you 22:13 it's something about being impatient and if you've ever visited the country or grew up in the country 22:20 to be in an area that's pitch black dark and has something just emerged from the darkness coming dead at you 22:27 and then deviate real quick and yo that right there i'm like okay i'm done you're swinging before it gets to you 22:34 you okay i wasn't ready i'm just telling you i 22:41 wasn't ready so yeah they they did it because they were trying to get us out thinking 22:47 black people not gonna come and see a hurricane even if there's black people in it and if they believe it's gonna be a kiki 22:54 haha and you know and the peels are known for comedy they roll into this stuff 22:59 right you know after the fact so i think they try to like you know like um hits the wagon onto them for that 23:07 but we were writing and we supported and we came out and we watched it so you're right um so when you when you look at 23:14 this when you look at this film you know what are some major 23:20 just takeaways or points that you got out of it outside what you just what you 23:25 just you know recently mentioned you know one of the things that i notice 23:31 is daryl the only other black well the one of 23:38 three black characters in in the movie he was the only one that was like yo 23:45 some don't feel right i don't think we should do this 23:51 and when they got in the house he was like yo ma what's your name 23:57 he was like yo i need some names i need ids let me 24:02 put this address in my gps because if i die if if i get unalived 24:11 i want my mommy and daddy to know where i'm at give me a proper burial because because 24:18 at the end of the day that that i think that's the thing that freaks us out more than anything 24:23 because you know as a brown people in general brown and yellow people we are really 24:29 funny intact we're really funny about that well who's got the body well you know you know they 24:36 are they looking good they look like themselves we were really that's a major pain all of the organs there 24:44 that's a major make sure that they didn't stuff the body with cotton or newspaper or 24:50 anything like that make sure the organs weren't harvested 24:56 we checked for everything because when i look at when i look at big mama guess what i better see her in that box i 25:03 promise you oh i'm flip i'm flipping over everything so that's how we are we need to know but 25:09 then again we also raised and asked questions like that we just don't be going with anybody you know because we 25:16 want to be able to be held accountable or where were you well who are you with how long were you there what did y'all do who else was there let me call her 25:22 mama let me call her daddy what her grandma say why would because you know you're going to get that when what they look like what were 25:29 they wearing okay the whole night are you not paying attention the whole 25:34 night i really knew better than that you can't hang out with me 25:40 are you focusing are these your real friends i ain't never met them who you know who's that you know so yeah yeah 25:47 yeah so he asked all the right questions while everybody else in the group was like 25:52 oh my god it's okay let's just go along with this she's cool you know and he was like 25:58 all right i'm hanging out with y'all because you might ride but i don't feel right about this 26:04 you know so there are little details and i don't know if he like 26:09 improv that i'm guessing he might have but it's like that detail 26:16 all right he's like he's right but it's like 26:22 you know along the lines of of of what you were saying it's like there are levels to this thing and 26:31 you know you can push a person but so far so far you know and and you 26:39 don't know what things a person will hold on to this was 25 26:46 30 years later this woman stayed in that community 26:52 she stayed in that community and still 26:58 was unseen she still was 27:03 under the people knew she was there on the radar but you you think about when she had went 27:10 out for drinks the way she was treated when the guy said hey 27:17 why don't we go out for drinks and then how she was handled 27:23 when she sat down to have drinks with him just how insincere he was in that moment 27:31 it brought everything back for her because it was like you asked me out for drinks 27:39 and then you pull the rug from me again it was high school all over for her 27:45 again and even though she didn't show it in the moment when he 27:51 walked away it was like at that moment she was like all right 27:57 i got one for your ass back to what you said it's like 28:04 you cannot mess with people and always think that 28:09 you got the upper hand on them 28:14 because people will start showing you their true colors and you may not like 28:21 it some people are good for a conversation some people will say all right you got me on that one 28:28 you don't ever have to worry about me again and 28:33 some people will hook you up to an iv that you may not want to be hooked up to 28:44 so yeah you you you got to be very careful it pays to be kind 28:50 is is the ultimate lesson it does and please leave it alone it 28:55 pays to leave people on if if you're not going to be sincere about your deals with them right 29:02 that that's what pays to you know because because you know for you to go through the trouble of mistreating 29:08 someone that's that that's the active role you're taking versus just letting them be 29:13 right it's better to ignore their existence than to attending them in such a way 29:19 and not know how those repercussions gonna fall because at the end of the day she brought the burden on there on the 29:26 seed of these people they're kids you know she ain't come directly for them she 29:33 she she didn't go she she she moved from the bottom to the top you know she was like oh you're gonna hurt your weight i'm 29:38 gonna get you where it hurts and let's real quick talk about even 29:44 generationally what she she did she was like i don't want my daughter 29:50 exposed to it and the levels the extreme that she 29:56 went to to keep her daughter away from it 30:03 you know almost killed her daughter so it's like 30:11 yeah yeah so yeah go ahead 30:18 it and her daughter saw through it but felt powerless to do anything and it 30:23 kind of makes you think all right is her daughter gonna be a repeat 30:31 of her mom girl apple tree let me tell you something still water's running deep and all it is 30:39 and the thing about psychosis is that all it really takes if you are 30:45 genetically predisposed all these all it takes is a series of 30:50 circumstances or one major event to flip that switch yeah 30:56 you know and and that's it people people are gone i i've known a situation 31:03 that that's happened to people in my life not my family but just in a community and you always hear about one 31:09 person that was normal until yep that's always a story they seemed so 31:14 nice this would never this never happened in our neighborhood we didn't normal 31:20 normal until they had that that one pivotal experience 31:25 that took them down a dark path and they never resurfaced in this way again positively 31:32 yeah yeah so on a scale of one to five 31:40 what do you think i'll give it a four i give it a four um 31:46 it wasn't perfect i i did like i did like the way it 31:53 developed and that it didn't make her just some type of barbarian you know because 31:59 sometimes you know when you have killers i i think what makes us connect with them better is when you really believe 32:07 that there's a thought process no matter how crazy it is behind why they do what they do 32:13 right you know so i i like the fact that there was some type of connection as to why she 32:20 sought these people out versus she just woke up one day and said yeah i just want to kill a whole bunch of kids 32:25 you know what i'm saying what was her why the y was really clear and 32:31 i liked the way they connected the y to the now because sometimes movies kind of leave you flat with that you like you 32:37 know you're struggling trying to pull piece of things together you know but this one didn't do that so 32:43 i would give it a four what would you think i think the same um 32:49 and for the same reasons you you know you found a reason to to sympathize 32:56 with with the main character she wasn't she wasn't being random 33:01 um you understood she was actually sick not just violent for no reason 33:09 even though um ma'am they have this thing called therapy go get you some 33:17 but again what once you look at the whole picture 33:22 the environment the setup and just the constant ding ding ding it was 33:30 toxic it was toxic for her it was undercover toxic for her yeah 33:36 like the water droplet on the forehead just non-stop so 33:42 yeah i would give it a four for the same reason it's not a perfect story but it's it's a good story 33:49 i think um in other arenas it was probably unfit unfairly rated and and 33:55 because it was mislabeled as a horror when it's really a thriller 34:01 yeah and i'm gonna be honest with you i think that the fact that she targeted teenagers and a certain kind of teenager 34:09 people never say it but i think that's why i felt flat too if you were to swap it out and the kind of teenager she was 34:16 targeting and if there wasn't some type of racial under and overtones about what was going 34:23 on i think if all parties were this yeah if all parties were the same would have been 34:29 it's it's it's a it's so right it's a racial because because when you think about it 34:35 it makes people feel uncomfortable that their treatment of another race or another gender or 34:42 another group of people can lead itself to those people attacking their children 34:47 that's something that people don't want to they don't they don't want to fathom so 34:54 you know and then and then it kind of points a mirror in their face like okay 34:59 well who in high school yeah or am i growing up or and in my 35:05 community did i treat poorly because they were poor 35:10 or they weren't the same color or they weren't the same um 35:16 you know that has seen sexual preferences you know whatever it was that made me unkind to them 35:24 could something like this be visited upon me because i was ignorant enough to think that i 35:30 could treat someone like that and us moving on and growing up and going our separate ways 35:36 they grew out of it or grew past it right no that's not who i am 35:43 anymore and people think that that somehow that dissolves them no it doesn't you still did what you said 35:52 exactly correct and apologize exactly but people don't do that they're 35:58 feeling like oh you should have gotten over it by now we were just kids it happened so long ago i really didn't mean i didn't know what i was doing 36:04 they're very flipped with it but then they're surprised when people are not as 36:09 flip or cavalier about the fact that's how they were treated so i think that 36:15 that it kind of fell flat because people weren't really willing to acknowledge the fact that they were probably just 36:21 like those people but for different reasons yeah yeah 36:26 yeah so so that is what we have for tonight 36:32 folks we have one movie left in our horror series i don't know where nicole is 36:39 going to go to watch it because she refuses to watch it at her house 36:45 with you i just watched it four times and i'm gonna watch it the fifth time 36:52 i might even watch it six times because i'm taking notes on it i'm taking notes 37:01 i watched the old [ __ ] did i tell you that you did and let me tell you something 37:07 the old one i was a teenager when owen came out 37:14 man and we grew up in the inner city you 37:19 know so my thing is is that that's a special kind of scary for us because because i think that 37:26 if you grew up in a country i don't know if you view came in the same way as anybody grew up 37:33 or or had relatives that lived in the inner city you're just like yeah you know 37:39 is there anybody scarier than the drug dealer is there anybody scarier 37:46 than the gang members it is i have to go find that short story that 37:53 it's based on because look dude spun a serious tale 38:03 he he he told a serious story that he got people so shook and the 38:09 thing is it's loosely based on a real story 38:16 it's inspired by a real story so now i need to see this thing in 38:21 writing so i can put the whole thing together once you get my cogs turning i can't slow down 38:31 so yeah i'm all in well i thank candyman and we'll talk 38:36 about further i think candyman is 38:41 it it kind of reminds me of grimm's fairy tales and the respect that every culture 38:48 has a boogeyman every culture you cannot name a culture that doesn't have 38:53 that one person that whose name we dare not speak 38:58 that one person that every child was taught about to teach them not to lie 39:04 not to steal not to be mean to honor your parents to honor a god or a greater being 39:10 right because this is what happens when you don't um to come in at night to to 39:16 have certain superstitious ways about you every culture has one but what makes 39:21 this extremely worse for those of us that grew up in a city is like as if we need 39:29 one more thing to be afraid of do we need one more thing 39:34 well but the thing about candyman is because of and you see this 39:42 in the first movie because of the way the apartments were built and that's the thing about horror movies in general 39:51 is that there's usually just all you need is a sliver of reality 39:58 exactly and that was enough reality i told you 40:03 about the the story that happened um i think it was in march of this year 40:09 march 2021 about the woman who in new york who felt a draft in her bathroom 40:16 okay wait let's save it for candy man let's save it 40:22 let's save it all right because at the end of the day it's going to connect with that 40:28 and you know and i i want us to kind of bring it all together so 40:33 all right so y'all can look that up on your own because i gave you the date and i gave 40:39 it just a little bit so you all go look that up on your own so you prepped when we come back 40:44 we we can talk about that but yeah we're doing candyman next 40:50 we'll talk about that then all right so we we're gonna wrap up you ready 40:55 we're gonna wrap up and let these people know where they can find us and find more 41:02 of what it is that we have going on okay so you can find me 41:08 right there right right there right there nikkei rights.wordpress.com and i promise i 41:14 spelt my name right i learned how to spell my name in kindergarten all right mckaywrights.wordpress.com 41:23 uh don is not with us today but hopefully he'll 41:28 be back soon but you can find him right there don miskell.com 41:34 all right he is a great writer hopefully we'll see some of his books in movies soon and 41:40 we'll be able to talk about them well i don't want to see i i i'll go i'll go to 41:45 the red carpet premiere wearing the the baddest gal money can buy or someone can 41:51 learn me he published skitter right 41:56 listen you all gotta read skitter you all can really tell me about it 42:02 because i told you i have limitations and that's as far as i'll go i love don 42:08 it's not that i won't do for don because he's he's like a true brother to me but that's where i draw a line and 42:14 wherever he gets in a group of people and talks about his writings you know since you're playing arena you'd know the answer that boy that would be a no 42:23 listen y'all gotta read skitter by don miskel since we're talking about her y'all gotta read that one okay tell me 42:31 about that that's one of my favorites and then 42:36 this chick right here you find her right there nicole decandas.com 42:42 okay at the opening of the show you heard music by 42:48 robert rice jr and you can find him over there smoothology.net 42:55 make sure you like and subscribe to our pages and you can find us okay this is where 43:03 it gets just a little bit tricky you can find us here on youtube 43:08 all right to find us on youtube you're gonna go to media 43:13 that moves we and there you will find all of our videos on movies that move we 43:19 that's the name of our our playlist okay and if you struggle with that no worries 43:26 no worries we kept it simple we have a facebook group called movies movie 43:32 we we like to keep it simple that but you know go ahead nicole you have to 43:38 answer those questions we have three includes your grandmother's maiden name 43:45 your fifth grade teacher and your favorite color and maybe your last four now i'm just joking because 43:51 people act like we're asking something that's really deeply profound it's as simple as 43:56 are you going to obey the rules of the platform and you know like you know what inspired you to i don't know it's three very 44:03 simple questions nothing really simple it's not true i'm gonna have to put on 44:10 you know i'm gonna have to die my lake edwards right now i heard 44:15 what you're not gonna do is think that we're going to let you 44:22 join our platform by answering the questions do you think that we took the time to post them for you not you're 44:28 going to have to answer them in order to join our group it's not a secret society we're not doing blood sacrifices we just 44:34 simply want to know are you going to come up on our page and tear up and the answer that is 44:40 if the answer is no and you're going to stick with the tenants and what we're trying to do which is talk about you know movies that impact 44:48 africans african-americans think you know things that nature you know um if you're gonna be a part at 44:54 then by all means join yeah so i mean i had i had to put on my neighborhood hat just a second ago yeah 45:01 because we don't do spam and all you know and stills and you know i know that you 45:06 all have some phenomenal your pyramid schemes going on i know your name on your page do that 45:14 you know we're not trying to be involved with that you know we're just we're just trying to talk about these topics so please join us there and share your 45:21 expertise we have some really interesting commentary up there and you know we get into some deep things people 45:27 share some movies and some other media that we're not even as familiar with and 45:32 it opens up you know your scope so definitely get that we have some great conversation starters and stuff 45:38 and with all that said god bless you and keep you we gonna get on out of here you all 45:45 enjoy the rest of your day and we'll see you next time to talk about candyman 45:52 i can't wait to see yes and to talk about this chick as um breeze is coming to our apartment yeah that part we're 45:57 gonna talk about that yes yes yes all right we'll talk to you 46:02 later bye 46:26 you
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