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[richardmurray]

 

Economic Corner 23

Sanae Takaichi becomes Nippons first female prime minister Oct 21st 2025

My Thoughts
 

I don't know much and I asked those in the Japanese internet their thoughts. But what is known... Nippon/Japan has a lot of issues. Japan does not need population growth overall but in sectors it does. A number of businesses in agriculture for example, lack a next generation. Japan like korea or Taiwan/Formosa sits in the unenviable position of between the two biggest militaristic powers in modern/as of this writing humanity.  She says she wants to increase Nippons militaristic position as well as its financial position. Well, in what way? Everyone wants to walk the road to gold, but do you have a map, do you have shoes, do you have a way of finding the road or is it just walking aimlessly?  Yeah, another elected official in humanity in a government deemed important in many sources has a president that mirrors the ways of Schrumpft. Yeah. This is again, not an error, this is a result of the USA's cold war victory playing out. When the United States of America won the cold war, it didn't do what it should had and that was reorganize the global order it made, instead it maintained said order. But said order was based on having an enemy, a militaristic + financial opponent, the soviet union. Absent an opponent calling out the lies in the usa, having a viable arms race, why maintain a global system of dysfunctional immigration laws/dysfunctional hiring practices/dysfunctional  financial markets. Since the cold war ended, the dot com industrial crash/ the real estate industrial crash /the banking industry crash / the automotive industrial crash/various bitcoin crashes. All this points to a financial reality. The larger canvas is financially poor or desperate and it isn't the fault of so called Artificial Intelligence, it isn't the fault of laziness, it isn't the fault of capitalism , it is the fault of poor governance.  Governance matters, it isn't economics, it isn't finance, but it matters and it isn't about finance. One of the problems in modernity is the view that money /finance controls government. No, government controls government. Like the congress of the USA who has ceded powers to the president of the USA for over one hundred years, the elected officials in the USA have ceded governing responsibility to the fiscal entrepreneurs. The arrangement is simple. We keep you alive and allow you to act freely and you fix your issues. The problem is the assumption the fiscal entrepreneurs are that smart or that purposed. Nippon automakers literally took jobs away from their own labor market to have the right to sell cars in the USA. That is why Japanese cars are made in the USA, so they have the right to be sold in the USA. That was a terrible decision.  Japan who once led the world in electronics, who supposedly had the best education system, [Remember Black folk when you were a kid of a certain age and someone chimed in about Japanese kids?] are not leading today? Is that because the Japanese weren't the smartest? Or is it because the government + business owners management hurt them in the same way , the USA's government plus business owners actions led to the weakening of the electronics industry of the USA compared to others.  Her three predecessors had a year each. That wasn't an accident. Nippon has problems. They can't be willed away with a firm stance. She has alot of governing to do and unlike the USA , Japan's parliamentary system means she has to get results now, she can't give herself time to rest and plan out through a term. 

 

URL
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/sanae-takaichi-becomes-japans-first-female-prime-minister/ar-AA1ORG86?ocid=BingNewsSerp
 

Sanae Takaichi becomes Japan's first female prime minister Story by Arata Yamamoto TOKYO — Lawmakers in Japan elected hardline conservative Sanae Takaichi as prime minister on Tuesday, making her the first woman in modern times to lead the key U.S. ally. Takaichi, 64, the new leader of the governing Liberal Democratic Party (LDP), was elected by lawmakers in the lower house of parliament by a vote of 237-149 over her closest rival, Yoshihiko Noda, leader of the liberal opposition Constitutional Democratic Party. She was also elected by upper house lawmakers in a second vote of 125-46 after falling one vote shy of a majority in the first round. Though her election is a milestone in a country where women are severely underrepresented in government, Takaichi enters office with a fragile coalition and facing a number of pressing challenges, including a visit next week by President Donald Trump. A protege of assassinated former Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, Takaichi advocates a stronger military, tougher immigration policies and the revision of Japan’s pacifist constitution. She is a veteran politician who has served as minister of economic security, internal affairs and gender equality. Earlier this month Takaichi was elected leader of the LDP, which has governed Japan almost uninterrupted since World War II, after running unsuccessfully in 2021 and 2024. Her ascension to prime minister was thrown into doubt, however, after a crucial partner, the centrist party Komeito, left the LDP coalition. To ensure her victory, the LDP signed a deal on Monday with the Osaka-based Japan Innovation Party, or Ishin, that will pull its coalition further to the right. Even with the alliance, Takaichi faces an uphill battle in parliament, where she falls short of a majority in both houses after the LDP suffered major losses in recent elections amid voter anger over party corruption scandals and the rising cost of living. “She emerges from this a diminished leader from the get-go,” said Jeff Kingston, a professor of Asian studies and history at Temple University’s Japan campus. Takaichi also faces an early test next week with the arrival of Trump, who is making his first trip to Asia since returning to office. He is expected to visit Malaysia and Japan before continuing on to South Korea, which is hosting a major summit of Asia-Pacific economies. “She doesn’t have a whole lot of time to get ready for a slew of diplomatic activity,” Kingston said. “But I think job one is the Japanese economy.” Arata Yamamoto reported from Tokyo, and Jennifer Jett from Hong Kong. This article was originally published on NBCNews.com

URL
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/21/world/asia/sanae-takaichi-japan-prime-minister.html
 

Japan Has a New Leader, and She’s a Heavy Metal Drummer Sanae Takaichi, a fan of Iron Maiden, had an improbable rise to power. Like her mentor, Shinzo Abe, she is expected to lead Japan to the right. By Javier C. Hernández Javier C. Hernández went to Nara Prefecture to trace Sanae Takaichi’s rise to power, interviewing classmates, supporters and acquaintances. Published Oct. 21, 2025 Updated Oct. 23, 2025, 10:49 a.m. ET Leer en español As a young woman in the late 1970s, Sanae Takaichi commuted six hours a day by bus and train from her parents’ home in western Japan to attend university. She was a fan of heavy metal music and Kawasaki motorcycles who yearned to move out. But her mother insisted at first that she stay home, forbidding her from living in a boardinghouse before marriage. “I dreamed of having my own castle,” Ms. Takaichi wrote in a 1992 memoir. On Tuesday, Ms. Takaichi won election as Japan’s prime minister, the first woman to do so in the nation’s history. It was the pinnacle of an improbable rise in politics and a milestone in a country where women have long struggled for influence. Ms. Takaichi, 64, who grew up near the ancient Japanese capital of Nara, defies easy labels. She once spoke bluntly about the challenges of working in politics as a woman in Japan, yet she is now the leader of the traditionalist, male-dominated Liberal Democratic Party. She has expressed concern about Japan’s reliance on the United States, but has also said she hopes to work closely with President Trump. She is an amateur drummer who idolizes bands like Iron Maiden and Deep Purple, yet she also wears blue suits to pay homage to her other hero, the former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher. Ms. Takaichi, a protégée of Shinzo Abe, Japan’s longest-serving prime minister, who was assassinated in 2022, is expected to move Japan farther to the right, responding to a recent populist wave that bears some similarities to Mr. Trump’s MAGA movement. She has embraced hawkish policies on China; pushed the message that “Japan is back”; played down Japan’s atrocities during World War II; and promised to more strictly regulate immigration and tourism. “She wants to make Japan strong and prosperous for the people of Japan and for the world,” said Yoshiko Sakurai, a prominent journalist and activist who has supported Ms. Takaichi. “She is open to the outside world. But she also understands that we have to be really good Japanese. We have to know our own culture, traditions, philosophy and history.” Ms. Takaichi will face her biggest test yet as she deals with fresh uncertainty about Japan’s military and economic alliance with the United States. She is expected to meet next week in Tokyo with Mr. Trump, who has rattled Japanese officials with tariffs and suggestions that the country should pay more for the presence of American troops in the region. While many Japanese politicians come from wealthy, elite circles, Ms. Takaichi grew up in humble circumstances in Nara Prefecture, an area teeming with temples, shrines, dense forests and rolling green hills. Her mother worked for the police department, and her father worked at a car parts maker. Motoko Shimada, a childhood friend of Ms. Takaichi’s, recalled her pigtailed classmate sharing homemade onigiri, or rice balls, and rolled omelets with students who had forgotten their lunchboxes on a school trip. “She was very smiley and very reserved,” Ms. Shimada said. “She didn’t have this strong-woman image. But she was able to notice when someone was not blending in well or struggling, and she was able to help them.” From a young age, Ms. Takaichi seemed aware of the pressures facing Japanese women. Her mother told her to be a “crimson rose,” Ms. Takaichi recalled in a 2024 biography by Eiji Ohshita, asking her to “retain feminine grace while possessing the thorns to confront wrongdoing.” Her parents pressured her to attend Kobe University, a state school about 50 miles northwest of her hometown, even though she had won admission to elite private institutions in Tokyo. They felt their daughter did not need a university education because she was a girl, Ms. Takaichi has said in interviews, and they wanted to save up to support her younger brother. (Ms. Takaichi declined, through a representative, to be interviewed for this article.) After graduation, Ms. Takaichi attended the Matsushita Institute of Government and Management, a renowned training ground for young politicians and business leaders. In the late 1980s, she took an interest in the United States, Japan’s chief economic competitor at the time, securing an internship in the office of former Rep. Patricia Schroeder of Colorado, a Democrat and ardent feminist. Ms. Takaichi had been moved by Ms. Schroeder’s tearful speech in 1987 announcing she would not run for president. Ms. Takaichi sent Ms. Schroeder a telegram, encouraging her to run again someday and offering her help. In Washington, Ms. Takaichi was an energetic presence, peppering aides with questions about the inner workings of Congress and American foreign policy — and developing a love of peanut butter. There was no hint of her conservative views on defense or social issues at the time, said Andrea Camp, a former aide to Ms. Schroeder. When she returned to Japan, Ms. Takaichi worked as an author and a television personality, developing a reputation as a pugnacious debater. In 1993, she began her political career, winning election to Parliament as an independent from Nara on a platform of political reform. Her father put his retirement savings toward her campaign. In the Diet, Japan’s Parliament, Ms. Takaichi soon discovered the isolation of being a woman in politics. Her male colleagues were sometimes dismissive, she recalled, and they often conducted business at saunas and social clubs, where it wasn’t feasible to meet with female lawmakers. “It’s really difficult for a woman to meet a man one-on-one,” she told The Associated Press in 1993. “People are watching, and I don’t want some strange scandal being invented. We can’t use the hours after 5 p.m.” During her early years in Parliament, she forged an enduring alliance with Mr. Abe, a lawmaker from an elite family with a nationalistic worldview. The two found common ground on issues like increasing military spending and adding a more patriotic tone to history textbooks. When Mr. Abe was elected to his first stint as prime minister in 2006, he appointed Ms. Takaichi to his cabinet, making her one of the most visible women in Japanese politics. He reappointed her in 2012, at the beginning of his second term, which lasted eight years. She became a fierce defender of his policies, including efforts to revise Japan’s Constitution to unfetter its military after decades of postwar pacifism, and his economic program, which emphasized cheap cash and government stimulus efforts. Ms. Takaichi tried to persuade Mr. Abe to run again in 2021, but he declined. When she entered the race, he threw his support behind her. “Ms. Takaichi is the true star of the conservatives,” Mr. Abe said at the time. She lost that race and fell short in another bid in 2024. When Mr. Abe was assassinated outside a train station in Nara, while giving a stump speech, Ms. Takaichi was devastated. She said at the time that she had “never felt so physically and mentally down.” “I have to work very hard from today,” she wrote on social media, “otherwise I’d have to apologize to him.” PHOTO Ms. Takaichi with Shinzo Abe, left, in 2014. The two found common ground on issues like increasing military spending and revising Japan’s textbooks to provide a more nationalistic view of World War II.Credit...Toru Hanai/Reuters When Shigeru Ishiba announced in September that he would resign as prime minister, after a series of embarrassing electoral defeats for the L.D.P., Ms. Takaichi raised her hand again to lead her party. She beat four men, riding a wave of support among rank-and-file party members with a message about turning people’s “anxieties into hope.” As her profile has risen, Ms. Takaichi’s private life has come under scrutiny. She married Taku Yamamoto, another L.D.P. politician, in 2004. They divorced in 2017 — Ms. Takaichi has said that the couple had heated political arguments at home — before remarrying in 2021. That time, Mr. Yamamoto took Ms. Takaichi’s surname, a rare gesture in Japan’s patriarchal culture. In Kashihara City in Nara, Ms. Takaichi’s hometown, which has a population of about 125,000, her friends and supporters have celebrated her ascent, praying for her success at local temples and sending white orchids to her district office. Nara has featured prominently in her political life. During the recent campaign, she accused tourists of kicking the cherished deer of Nara Park. She drew criticism for the remark, which some saw as xenophobic. Yukitoshi Arai, Ms. Takaichi’s former hairdresser in Nara, helped pioneer the cropped hairstyle that she has made famous. He said he wanted her eyes and ears to be visible to show that she was seeing and hearing the people she met. He said he felt that Ms. Takaichi retained the qualities of people from the Kansai region in central Japan: humor and humility. He once gave her a bottle of shampoo that Ms. Thatcher was said to have liked while visiting Tokyo. “I don’t think she’s an ‘iron lady,’” he said, referring to a nickname given by the British media to Ms. Thatcher. “Her vibe is that of a Kansai woman.” After her victory this month in the L.D.P.’s leadership election, Mr. Arai texted his former client to remind her to take care of herself. Ms. Takaichi responded two days later. “The battle begins now,” she wrote. Kiuko Notoya contributed reporting from Nara Prefecture and Hisako Ueno from Tokyo. Javier C. Hernández is the Tokyo bureau chief for The Times, leading coverage of Japan and the region. He has reported from Asia for much of the past decade, previously serving as China correspondent in Beijing. A version of this article appears in print on Oct. 22, 2025, Section A, Page 4 of the New York edition with the headline: Takaichi Presents New Package for Familiar Hard-Right Conservatism. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe

I ask people in Japan what do they think
https://ameblo.jp/rmhearth/entry-12940637395.html

Prior Edition
https://aalbc.com/tc/events/event/553-economic-corner-22-10222025/

 

NOTE: she is the first prime minister of nippon to not come from a dynasty

[ProfD]

I don't lnow whether or not PM Sanae Takaichi is a POTUS OJ figure-head of government.

 

Considering the US/Japan relationship, I'd imagine PM Takaichi will work within joint interestsnof both countries.  

 

If POTUS OJ likes working with PM Takaichi, the US will help with Japanese economic issues too.

[richardmurray]

@ProfD

 

On 10/24/2025 at 1:19 AM, ProfD said:

Considering the US/Japan relationship, I'd imagine PM Takaichi will work within joint interestsnof both countries.  

 

there is a very old saying which I find always holds up true, no one can serve two masters. 

What historical evidence do you have/suggest of any country that is subservient to another, like Nippon to the USA, having a leader who served successfully the interest of the subservient country + the master country?

[ProfD]

On 10/25/2025 at 1:52 PM, richardmurray said:

 

What historical evidence do you have/suggest of any country that is subservient to another, like Nippon to the USA, having a leader who served successfully the interest of the subservient country + the master country?

The leaders are elected. By default, the voters got what they wanted including subservience to another country.

[richardmurray]

@ProfD

I can't recall any moment in my life where any one voted for an elected official and they got what they wanted... in my eyes, they get what they settle for, that isn't what you want. 

[ProfD]

7 hours ago, richardmurray said:

 

I can't recall any moment in my life where any one voted for an elected official and they got what they wanted... in my eyes, they get what they settle for, that isn't what you want. 

True.

 

The question is did the voters demand anything of their elected officials.

 

Most people are not voting their interests. They are exercising their right to vote as told to do so.

 

However, politicians main priority is catering to special interests i.e. the money that put them in office in the 1st place.

[richardmurray]

@ProfD 

in the usa the voters, black nonblack or other,  have never demanded anything. the system doesn't allow for voters to demand anything. The parliamentary system allows voters to demand, because the vote isn't the be all end all. In a parliamentary system, majorities are made by various voting blocks through parties of governance, and the second something goes against a voting block, they leave the majority, and if large enough, that will force a revoting. The USA system is built on faith, not demand. The voters are placing someone based on faith in the usa. thus why so few across the board in the usa vote. which elected officials in the usa warrants faith in their actions? oddly enough, the schrumpt people will say schrumpt and I argue, letting honesty overcome my negative bias to him, the argument can be made. 

Obama + Biden both as presidents arguably had more willing to put faith in them but didn't reward anyone's faith , thus schrumpft came after both. 

Locally, this is the problem with NYC. It has had from Koch to MAmdani, eight terms of elephant mayors , four terms of donkey mayors. Elephant mayors focus on specific groups, catering to the wealthy harder. Donkeys try to cater to the larger masses. But the problem is, providing for the larger masses is hard. NYC has been mismanaged for a very long time, so the damage is not little and doing for all is... not a little task, thus every single donkey mayor when they leave office is under a sorrow, why? cause the people who voted for them are never satisfied, cause the faith is never rewarded. the elephant mayors, focus on the rich , upper and lower rich, who are all colors/genders/religions/et cetera in nyc . the masses know this and absent alternative, don't vote. None of the above, it is a real thing. I can tell you value voting very highly, but the system in the usa isn't built for voting to have value and the proof is in recent history as much as the past. from sea to shining sea. The reason Schrumpt took over the republican party wasn't because of black people. it was white elected officials failings. 

And while money does aid elected officials getting elected, look at all the nepotisms in the usa government today. Many of these people come from money, the issue is their quality as people. They aren't really in government to government, they are in it, because it is one of the best labor markets in the usa today. Far safer than fiscal firms. You can be a senator for life, and all you have to do, is talk and play the media game well every four years. That is the usa system. I Don't know what country you seem to think the usa is. 

 

the marches in the 1960s wasn't from the act of voting, that was called advocacy , that isnt' the same thing. 

How can you vote your interest when your interest can't be guaranteed in the usa system through voting?

And yes, fiscal operators strong enough influence, but that is a very expensive game. The two major parties work in the billions. 

[ProfD]

3 hours ago, richardmurray said:

in the usa the voters, black nonblack or other,  have never demanded anything. the system doesn't allow for voters to demand anything.

Therein lies the problem. If voters formed blocks, they could make demands of politicians. The system is good at keeping it from happening.

3 hours ago, richardmurray said:

I can tell you value voting very highly...

What gave you that impression?

 

3 hours ago, richardmurray said:

The reason Schrumpt took over the republican party wasn't because of black people. it was white elected officials failings. 

POTUS OJ built his MAGA following by promising he would do certain things...primarily make America hyper-white nationalist.

 

Of course, white folks in the opposition party benefit too. That's why they don't really do anything to stop POTUS OJ. 

 

 

3 hours ago, richardmurray said:

 the marches in the 1960s wasn't from the act of voting, that was called advocacy , that isnt' the same thing. 

Sure. FBA/ADOS want full access to their birth-rights.

 

3 hours ago, richardmurray said:

And yes, fiscal operators strong enough influence, but that is a very expensive game. The two major parties work in the billions. 

Black folks have accesss to billions collectively. You know the rest.

[richardmurray]

 

@ProfD

On 10/27/2025 at 4:55 PM, ProfD said:

If voters formed blocks, they could make demands of politicians. The system is good at keeping it from happening.

Voting blocks have never demanded anything in the usa, that is a myth/lie. Voting blocks rarely exist as well ,the use of voting blocks as some grand strategy is a myth/lie. 

Now if I am wrong give me an example in usa history?

 

On 10/27/2025 at 4:55 PM, ProfD said:

What gave you that impression?

because of your choice of words or usage of voting as an action

 

On 10/27/2025 at 4:55 PM, ProfD said:

POTUS OJ built his MAGA following by promising he would do certain things...primarily make America hyper-white nationalist.

 

Of course, white folks in the opposition party benefit too. That's why they don't really do anything to stop POTUS OJ. 

I remember exactly what schrumpft did to build his following and none of it was specific promises or claiming to make the usa hyper white nationalist. 

His built his movement by blindsiding the party of abraham lincoln POAL, and in the primary did two things: 

1) called everyone else in government , POAL or party of andrew jackson POAJ  a liar, which is a functional truth. for decades both POAL+ POAJ members from federal to city council lie, he called them all out. They both do nothing and blame the complexities of government or each other which is a lie, government is not complex and the two parties as many have said did have a symbiotic relationship pre schrumpft. 

2) he said he would shake things up. He never promised anything specific  and when he faced hillary clinton he continued the same strategy against the POAL field in the POAL primary. He called her a liar based on her record or the record of the POAJ and said the same old same old, will lead to the same place, which is historically true in the past sixty years in the usa from the time of schrumpfts first election. I don't think schrumpft has ever done anything to make the USA hyper white nationalist. I Live in NYC it isn't hyper white nationalist. It is a city poorly run, which has a city council mostly made of women i think ... and soon to have another first time category of mayor in mamdani. When he campaigned against harris, it was the same thing, harris is incompetent and do you want to go back to the old stuff , and he won handily. 

But remember was it Schrumpft who led the harlem empowerment zone that didn't empower at all the majoirty populace in harlem at that time, black people? no it was the clintons /charlie rangel/inez dickens/and a bunch of other black elected officials to harlem. Was it schrumpft who was the attorney general of california and aided in putting black men in prison with negative uneven policies, no it was kamala harris.  Was it schrumpts who used trillions of dollars for making computer chips in new york state as the center of a plan to supposedly help all of the usa, no it was biden. Was it schrumpt who forgave the entire begging banking industry included goldman sachs whose supposed to be such a brainiac financial firm with an welfare check absent demands? no that was Bush jr +Obama. 

 

Well in the schrumpf era, what I have noticed isn't people benefitting staying in government it is people leaving, between the POAL+ POAJ I argue the exodus from people representing both parties is the only constant. The hawks+ fiscal conservatives+ religious folk+ libertarians+reform party in the POAL are gone, they have been replaced by schumpfts folk. while the representatives of the POAJ in the bureaurcracy have made e huge exodus from USAID to the CDC to many other places where the POAJ has expanded the bureaucracy with their people. 

On 10/27/2025 at 4:55 PM, ProfD said:

Sure. FBA/ADOS want full access to their birth-rights.

 

I am fortunate enough to have talked to various black people in the community older than me, who were actually there, they never said what you said. I have never heard any of them speak of birth rights. many of them are dead, but none spoke of birth rights. They spoke of rights. The language they used suggest to me it was less an statian/american thing than a human thing. 

 

On 10/27/2025 at 4:55 PM, ProfD said:

Black folks have accesss to billions collectively. You know the rest.

yeah I do, i also know that no populace in the usa, including the white jew has ever pooled their money like that, so I ponder why the black populace in the usa should be the first? 

[ProfD]

9 hours ago, richardmurray said:

Voting blocks have never demanded anything in the usa, that is a myth/lie. Voting blocks rarely exist as well ,the use of voting blocks as some grand strategy is a myth/lie. 

 

Now if I am wrong give me an example in usa history?

There's a huge number of poor people in the USA. If they formed a block and made demands, I believe it would be effective.

 

9 hours ago, richardmurray said:

because of your choice of words or usage of voting as an action

OK. I've never specifcally typed that voting accomplishes anything. 

 

9 hours ago, richardmurray said:

I remember exactly what schrumpft did to build his following and none of it was specific promises or claiming to make the usa hyper white nationalist. 

From MAGA (hyper-white nationalism) to deporting illegal immigrants to reducing federal government to fighting crime were promises made.

9 hours ago, richardmurray said:

I don't think schrumpft has ever done anything to make the USA hyper white nationalist.

The MAGA movement is code for it.

 

9 hours ago, richardmurray said:

I Live in NYC it isn't hyper white nationalist.

Here's a newsflash for you...NYC does not represent the pulse of the USA.

 

The Big Apple likes to believe it's a big deal...it's not.

 

 

9 hours ago, richardmurray said:

I am fortunate enough to have talked to various black people in the community older than me, who were actually there, they never said what you said. I have never heard any of them speak of birth rights. many of them are dead, but none spoke of birth rights. They spoke of rights. The language they used suggest to me it was less an statian/american thing than a human thing. 

Semantics. FBA/ADOS folks want their birth-rights.

 

9 hours ago, richardmurray said:

yeah I do, i also know that no populace in the usa, including the white jew has ever pooled their money like that, so I ponder why the black populace in the usa should be the first? 

I know Jews received a windfall of money post-holocaust. Israel receives a chunky allowance from the USA every year too.

 

Still, research how much Jews own and the amount of wealth it has generated.

 

Jews aren't going broke through gross consumerism. Their churches are not raising billions of dollars just to enrich the pastors and his flunkies.

 

FBA/ADOS should pool their money because whenever white folks decide to pull the rug from underneath paying for their labor...many of our people will be worse off.

[richardmurray]

@ProfD

5 hours ago, ProfD said:

There's a huge number of poor people in the USA. If they formed a block and made demands, I believe it would be effective.

It would be effective in getting someone elected, 100% , but it would not be effective in demanding anything once their elected. That is the issue. Remember, George Washington, white man, first president, owner of blacks, a majority of whites, poor or rich, wanted him to be king. He could had, but he chose to term limit himself. he did that, it wasn't the voting blocks desire, and that sets the tone in the usa ever after, once elected you are free to do what you want. Which means you are free to listen to others, you are free to work for the voting base that got you elected.... but, you are also free to listen to no one, you are also free to work against the voting base that got you elected  COUGH BLACK ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES

5 hours ago, ProfD said:

OK. I've never specifcally typed that voting accomplishes anything. 

even point, I made myself an ass

5 hours ago, ProfD said:

From MAGA (hyper-white nationalism) to deporting illegal immigrants to reducing federal government to fighting crime were promises made.

Yes, in the course of things he did BUT the base wasn't those things. That is my point.  Schrumpt didn't start with those things. He used Rush Limbaughs podcast/radio method. LEt the audience tell you want to rant. 

Schrumpft started with only two things: everyone in government is a liar, and I will shake things up. 

Then ,as the supporters showed thier old great granfathers confederacy flag he added, white nationalism, as they got on twitter about speaking spanish, got to rid of the immigrants, and defunding the government had many supporters in various fields of his early supports. He is resounding, and I am not suggesting he didn't make promises, but that wasn't how he started this thing

I Argue Schrumpft is mimicking, even in hand gestures, william shatner from the intruder. The difference is, schrumpft, has modern telecommunications as well as a legacy of failure from the elephants or donkeys to make it easier. In the 1950s 1960s many whites in rural areas still believed the elected officials would do for them, but by 2025, many of those same whites don't feel the people in government have done for them or their parents or grandparents. Which is hnest. WHite people in the countryside have been begging for a return to the farms, a strengthening of manufacturing before either of us was born, did it happen? Now I comprehend all the stated reasons but again, that doesn't deny it didn't happen but was continually promised. SO this meant while shatner's character falls, Schrumpts had and has it very easy. but like shatner all he is doing is resounding. That is the key to the strategy from getting elected to podcast, just resonate the anger of the people absent doing anything about it or having any sort of plan or solution. the rest does itself. the peoples anger only grows and other people who refute the anger, don't have solutions but create a cyclical banter complaining about other complaining. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Intruder_(1962_film)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hudN_0yQ7dg

 

5 hours ago, ProfD said:

The MAGA movement is code for it.

 

5 hours ago, ProfD said:

Here's a newsflash for you...NYC does not represent the pulse of the USA.

 

The Big Apple likes to believe it's a big deal...it's not.

your not comprehending my point. Your correct, The USA is way bigger than NYC, your correct... but the USA is way bigger than MAGA too. 

Schrumpft isn't making the usa hyper white nationalist, hyper white nationalist merely exist in the usa, it isn't the same thing. 

And what does this culminate tooo,... regionalisty. My point for mentioning NYC is regionality, not some sort of centrism. The USA has many regions, a country of three hundred million plus people has many regions. MAGA isn't strong or noticeable everywhere, maybe where you are, even enough, but not everywhere.

5 hours ago, ProfD said:

Semantics. FBA/ADOS folks want their birth-rights.

by semantics are you suggesting an implication not verbally stated by many black people older than you are I?  well... I am not trying to change your mind to anything, I admit that again cause I see in our dialogs I border on prosyletization. But I can't suggest what people don't say. I have never been a fan of the suggestion of overuse of coded language. And maybe I don't comprehend what you mean by birth rights, but for me, it is just rights. 

5 hours ago, ProfD said:

I know Jews received a windfall of money post-holocaust. Israel receives a chunky allowance from the USA every year too.

 

Still, research how much Jews own and the amount of wealth it has generated.

 

Jews aren't going broke through gross consumerism. Their churches are not raising billions of dollars just to enrich the pastors and his flunkies.

 

FBA/ADOS should pool their money because whenever white folks decide to pull the rug from underneath paying for their labor...many of our people will be worse off.

I also know that white jews are a very tiny populace of the white populace in the usa, I also know that all the tiny populaces in the usa's various demographics are more financially successful than the largers. 

white jews are more financially successful than the white italisn or white germans/poor white trash or white irish. But white jews are also far smaller.

I know that black ethiopians are more financially successful than black DOSers but again, far smaller populace. 

I know that white japanese are more financially successful than white chinese, but again, far smaller populace. 

all larger populaces in any demographic in the usa are financially negative compared to a smaller populace in that same demographic. 

 

White people have already pulled the rug for paying for white labor, that is how schrumpft won... you keep suggesting a secret alliance among whites that doesn't exist in modernity. The reason being is the unity of the past among whites relied on blocking access to wealth. But BLack DOSers while sacrificing alot of our communities or lives or goals or dreams using nonviolence to integrate to whites, with the help of the soviet union calling the usa out and gaining international traction, successfully got whites in the usa to share wealth and once that happened, white power as it was had problems. which has led to today. White people in all white towns all over the usa have only known white power and fear integration with the nonwhite, fear sharing of wealth with the nonwhite, fear fiscal competition with the non white all because they comprehend correclty, that all of said fears will lead to greater chances of fiscal poverty. Black people, especially DOSers are used to fiscal poverty ala from its ultimate form being enslaved, we don't get scared at the same rates being fiscally poor like whites. Schrumpft uses this. And that is how the pro anti jewish battle in the white populace in the usa has grown. The judeochristian union started in the 1960s based on the idea of a pan white identity in the usa, which suit, white women/white latinos like blanco puerto ricans/white asians like han chinese who all used the 1960s to grow their wealth in the white mold  BUT, it also meant non white financial growth and then the corporations , many with wealthy white jews in administration started moving jobs outside the usa, and the rest is history. 

 

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, richardmurray said:

It would be effective in getting someone elected, 100% , but it would not be effective in demanding anything once their elected.

The best way to get nothing is not to demand anything.  

 

 

2 hours ago, richardmurray said:

Yes, in the course of things he did BUT the base wasn't those things. That is my point.  Schrumpt didn't start with those things.

I did not type that POTUS OJ started those things either.  He's executing it to the satisfaction of the MAGA base.

 

2 hours ago, richardmurray said:

your not comprehending my point.

I do.  As usual, our dialog is from different planes.

 

2 hours ago, richardmurray said:

Your correct, The USA is way bigger than NYC, your correct... but the USA is way bigger than MAGA too. 

Schrumpft isn't making the usa hyper white nationalist, hyper white nationalist merely exist in the usa, it isn't the same thing. 

Nor did I type that POTUS OJ is making the USA hyper-white nationalist.  He's promoting it. 

 

Everything POTUS OJ is doing is an effort to reinforce white patriarchy from top to bottom:

 

Remove non-white men from positions of power and authority. 

 

Reshape the military into the warfighting force and look pre-1950s. 

 

Promote the support and acceptance of mediocre white men.  

 

 

2 hours ago, richardmurray said:

The USA has many regions, a country of three hundred million plus people has many regions. MAGA isn't strong or noticeable everywhere, maybe where you are, even enough, but not everywhere.

Look at a map of the USA when it comes to red and blue.  It is definitely more red.  Many white folks easily flip between the two.  it works out for them either way.

 

2 hours ago, richardmurray said:

And maybe I don't comprehend what you mean by birth rights, but for me, it is just rights. 

Birth-rights as defined by the US Constitution.

 

2 hours ago, richardmurray said:

I also know that white jews are a very tiny populace of the white populace in the usa,

Regardless of Jewish population size, IMO, the is a form of unity among them.

 

 

2 hours ago, richardmurray said:

White people have already pulled the rug for paying for white labor...

The majority of Black folks in the USA trade their labor for entities and interests controlled by white folks. 

 

If/when white folks decides to eliminate *jobs* whether it is through  down-sizing or switching over to AI, Black folks will be adversely affected the most. 

 

Black folks do not have enough institutions, corporations, companies, businesses, etc., to which they can turn for employment.

 

If the entertainment industry and major sports leagues decided to ban Black players, the number of Black millionaires would plummet.

 

Those are the rugs I'm referring to white folks pulling from underneath us.

 

2 hours ago, richardmurray said:

White people in all white towns all over the usa have only known white power and fear integration with the nonwhite, fear sharing of wealth with the nonwhite, fear fiscal competition with the non white all because they comprehend correclty, that all of said fears will lead to greater chances of fiscal poverty.

POTUS OJ is trying to implement policies and a movement in the USA to eliminate those fears among white folks. 

 

MAGA is code restoring the USA to how it was during the 1950s.  White folks were perfectly fine with it. 

 

Before the 1960s, Black folks and other non-whites were *in their place*.

[richardmurray]

@ProfD

2 hours ago, ProfD said:

Look at a map of the USA when it comes to red and blue.  It is definitely more red.  Many white folks easily flip between the two.  it works out for them either way.

in terms of area on the map by states, the usa is more red, but in terms of population density mappings  the usa is more blue, so it is an even thing. 

2 hours ago, ProfD said:

Birth-rights as defined by the US Constitution.

 

ah then that wasn't what the black people referred to. Maybe the black people you around talk about the constitution alot but not around here at any age