....But What About When Black Women Are Disrespected?

[Pioneer1]

I've briefly followed a story recently where apparently some Asian man who was speaking at a beauty pageant talked rudely to a Mexican contestant and in a show of solidarity against his "racism" most of the women got up and walked out.

Here's a brother doing a show about the incident:

 

I have a few questions about this incident:

1. Although he was indeed rude, what did he say that was racist or anti Latino?

2. Do they consider just TALKING to a Latina woman in that manner "anti-Latino" or "anti-woman"?

3. When we see video after video of bosses, police officers, and other public figures talking rudely and even being violent with Black women...where is the solidarity with THEM?

4. Apparently the Director apologized....lost his position...and then came on and apologized some more.
Ok.
But he didn't have to....nor did he have to be fired.

This reminds me of incidents where LGBTQ members are insulted or disrespected and people come out apologizing and bending over backwards to make amends to them.
They don't have THAT much power or influence.
They certainly don't have the power or influence AfroAmericans have...yet they are often GIVEN more respect and concession for some reason.

They don't have to boycott stores or riot in the streets.
Yet so many people come running to their rescue at any HINT of disrespect.

 

[ProfD]

Kudos to the women who walked out. I wonder how many stuck around because they didn't see or hear anything wrong.

 

i didn't hear racism in what dude said. I heard his cultural upbringing come out.

 

As an Asian man, he talked to her the way they do to their own women. 

 

He only apologized due to embarrassment. He lost his job because the incident was publicized. Clearly, that wasn't his 1st time berating a woman.

 

In western society, I believe women are respected to a slightly hugher degree than within other cultures. 

 

Black women and every other group in the US has a right and voice to stand up for themselves. It's not like those countries where they get killed for speaking up or too loudly.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

i didn't hear racism in what dude said. I heard his cultural upbringing come out.

My sentiments exactly.
It was rude the way he spoke to her, but I didn't hear racism.
This is one of the reasons this incident got my attention.
They love to get on Black folks for calling something "racist" when they FEEL there is no evidence that race had anything to do with it, yet so many people are doing that very same thing with THIS incident.

And really, it was the same with the attacks on Asian people that USED to happen a few years back but all of a sudden magically disappeared.
They showed Asian people being attacked but outside of it being non-Asians doing the attacking....there was no actual evidence that the assaults were racially motivated.
Yet the media MADE race a factor in it and so did Congress.

It seems that whether words are exchanged or not....most people instinctively know that if a person of ONE race is attacked or mistreated by a person of ANOTHER race....racism is usually a factor.
 

 

 

 

 

 

In western society, I believe women are respected to a slightly hugher degree than within other cultures. 

Black women and every other group in the US has a right and voice to stand up for themselves. It's not like those countries where they get killed for speaking up or too loudly.

And you know what?
They have  BLACK MEN to thank for that!
Not just Black women but ALL women should be thanking Black men for that comfort!

Why?

Because White, Arab, Latino, and Asian men all know that WE are the viable alternative if their own men don't treat them right and start trying to control them too much and abuse them.

Back in their own countries where there are no other men....especially Black men...around as competition, they treat their women any kind of way and dog them out.
The women have no other options BUT to put up with it.
But in America where they work, live around, and go to school with Black men on a routine basis and probably already had a brutha or two push up on them and have heard stories from their friends who HAVE been with Black men, they KNOW their value and KNOW that the man they're ain't the only option.

 

THEY know it and the MEN of their communities know it too.
So as long as that Black dick is in the vicinity....they're scare out of their wits to treat their woman the way they really WANT to treat her because they know it's so easy for her to take a stroll over to the Black side.

This includes White women.

If Black men weren't in this country, White women would be all wrapped up in bonnets and forced to have babies living in worse conditions than those women under the Taliban.

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Because White, Arab, Latino, and Asian men all know that WE are the viable alternative if their own men don't treat them right and start trying to control them too much and abuse them.

The women have no other options BUT to put up with it.

 

This includes White women.

Slow down bro.

 

Most women are raised in a culture where they accept being 2nd to men. 

 

The main reason a non-Black woman leaves an abusive man and runs into the arms of another man is for security and protection. 

 

S8x is not a woman's highest priority. Survival which includes security and protection comes first. 

 

There's a reason white women don't say too much against white men and vote the way they do as well.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

 

Slow down bro.
Most women are raised in a culture where they accept being 2nd to men. 

 

While this is true, it doesn't contradict or conflict with the point I just made about us (Black men) being a viable alternative that the men of their community consider when dealing with their women in America.

 

 

The main reason a non-Black woman leaves an abusive man and runs into the arms of another man is for security and protection. 

Agreed.
OR....to just get away from the abuse; even if the man she runs to isn't very protective.

 

When folks ask why would a child run away from home and live on the streets, maybe they need to understand how abusive and violent the situation that child faced AT home.
The streets may be harsh and callous but STILL better than the constant violence they faced at home.

 

Likewise.....

A woman running into the arms of a Black man who makes less money and doesn't offer her much protection may be a whole lot better than staying with a wealthy man who is extremely insecure, accusatory, and whooping her ass every day and threatening to kill her.
 

 

 

 

S8x is not a woman's highest priority. Survival which includes security and protection comes first. 

 

Depends on the woman....lol...but I understand your point.
 

 

 

There's a reason white women don't say too much against white men and vote the way they do as well.

 

You're talking about MOST White women.

Keep in mind that a large minority of them: 
a) Seek out and prefer Black men  
b) Vote Democrat/Liberal and often for Black politicians like Obama or Harris

There are multiple reasons for this, but one of which is Black men usually offer that viable alternative to the more dominant domineering ultra-controlling and abusive White man.

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

While this is true, it doesn't contradict or conflict with the point I just made about us (Black men) being a viable alternative that the men of their community consider when dealing with their women in America.

Sure. Black men are a viable alternative. It goes the other way too. Black women are looking at non-Black men.

 

I just don't believe our mere presence in the vicinity keeps non-Black men in check when it comes to women of their race or culture.

 

Both women and men choose to go outside their race/culture for any reason(s) or none at all. No different from buying an exotic pet.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

 

Sure. Black men are a viable alternative. It goes the other way too. Black women are looking at non-Black men.

 

Facts.
.....for different reasons.
But facts, none the less.

 

 

 
I just don't believe our mere presence in the vicinity keeps non-Black men in check when it comes to women of their race or culture.

 

Because I don't know for sure what's going on in the minds of these other non-Black men, perhaps our mere presence doesn't.
However there is EVIDENCE (by deductive reasoning) that it does.

What do I mean?

 

Keep in mind I'm talking about FBA men...not all or any Black man.
These other groups could care less about African men because many African men will keep their head down and pretend not to see their women being abused or mistreated.

 

Also keep in mind that when I say "FBA men" I'm also including Black Caribbeans like Jamaicans and Haitians because they also descended from Slavery and share similar experiences and traditions.

In countries where FBA men AREN'T there in noticeable numbers, you see more abuse and traditional hardline treatment of women of all groups.

However in countries where FBA men DO exist in large numbers...like the United States obviously, but also Canada, England, and France....all women tend to be treated better regardless of race or ethnicity.
They experience more respect, more sexual freedom, and tend to be more outspoken.

Some would say one has little or nothing to do with the other.
But having closely examined some of these societies...I would argue differently and say that the confidence these women have is as a DIRECT result of our presence among them.

 

[ProfD]

On 11/9/2025 at 7:58 AM, Pioneer1 said:

In countries where FBA men AREN'T there in noticeable numbers, you see more abuse and traditional hardline treatment of women of all groups.

I still believe it is a cultural thing with those dudes treating their women like 2nd class citizens.

 

The main reason those same dudes treat their women *better* here in the US is because of the laws. They don't wanna end up in the penalty box.

 

On 11/9/2025 at 7:58 AM, Pioneer1 said:

However in countries where FBA men DO exist in large numbers...like the United States obviously, but also Canada, England, and France....

I don't believe the number of FBA men in those other countries is significant enough to make a difference to the white men there.

 

On 11/9/2025 at 7:58 AM, Pioneer1 said:

...all women tend to be treated better regardless of race or ethnicity.
They experience more respect, more sexual freedom, and tend to be more outspoken.

White countries seem to be less restrictive than other countries where they keep women covered up and won't let them learn or drive.

 

On 11/9/2025 at 7:58 AM, Pioneer1 said:

But having closely examined some of these societies...I would argue differently and say that the confidence these women have is as a DIRECT result of our presence among them.

White men are willing to sacrifice women especially if 1) they don't really want for themselves and 2) use them to weaken Black men.

 

Surely, white men don't care about giving up those less than attractive white women Black men seem to bun up.

[Pioneer1]

ProdD

 

 

I still believe it is a cultural thing with those dudes treating their women like 2nd class citizens.

 

Absolutely.
It's part of their cultures and religions itself!
Their very religions regulate women to 2nd class status and that below man so they don't even see it as wrong.
They see it as being "right" and the moral thing to do.

 

Just like many of them see STONING women to death for being disrespectful the right and moral thing to do.

 

 

 

The main reason those same dudes treat their women *better* here in the US is because of the laws. They don't wanna end up in the penalty box.

 

Well that's obvious.
However the change in the laws and policies to protect women were HEAVILY influenced by Black men.
Remember the Women's Movement didn't really pick up steam and get anywhere until the CIVIL RIGHTS Movement took off in the 50s.
White women had been complaining about mistreatment, wanting to vote, and suffrage decades, starting way back in the 1800s.
Susan B. Anthony and 'em.

But it didn't get anywhere UNTIL the 60s when Black men ran up to the door and kept White men so busy fighting and trying to keep US out that White women were able to squeeze past and get in.

 

 

 

I don't believe the number of FBA men in those other countries is significant enough to make a difference to the white men there.

 

The difference is made PSYCHOLOGICALLY.

If push really came to shove....places like Australia and France don't have enough FBA to really turn up.
England does.
Canada...probably...probably not...lol.
....but those nations are so heavily INFLUENCED by FBA sub-culture that they have enough PSEUDO-NIGGAZ to influence the culture and norms of society.

Hiphop other aspects of Black American sub-culture...both positive and negative.....is so embraced by Africans, West Indians, and even Arabs and Asians in those nations, they pretty much ALL act like niggaz when ain't no REAL niggaz around, lol.

Go to some parts of France or Australia and you'll see a Chinese girl bouncing down the street Crip Walking better than you ever saw Snoop doing it....lol.


 

 

 

White countries seem to be less restrictive than other countries where they keep women covered up and won't let them learn or drive

 

Well like I said, that's ONLY because of the presence of men of color.
Where do you think the oppressive anti-female culture that you find in places like Arabia and Pakistan COME from?
It originally came from the Caucasians who invaded and imposed it on these regions.

Arabs are pretty much the descendants of Caucasian men who stole the region and forced themselves on women of color killing off and enslaving the rest of the population.
Same with much of India.

Ofcourse THEY are mixed race and many of them are Black, but the racist and sexist mentality REMAINS through out the region.
It was passed down from father to child.

 

[ProfD]

19 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Remember the Women's Movement didn't really pick up steam and get anywhere until the CIVIL RIGHTS Movement took off in the 50s.

Yep. They piggybacked on Civil Rights Movement. White men got tired of them complaining and lumped that sh8t together.

19 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

The difference is made PSYCHOLOGICALLY.

....but those nations are so heavily INFLUENCED by FBA sub-culture that they have enough PSEUDO-NIGGAZ to influence the culture and norms of society.

 

Hiphop other aspects of Black American sub-culture...both positive and negative.....is so embraced by Africans, West Indians, and even Arabs and Asians in those nations, they pretty much ALL act like niggaz when ain't no REAL niggaz around, lol.

Gotcha. Understand your perspective. 

 

Hopefully, I'll still be around whenever Black men use their power to redistribute wealth.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

 

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Hopefully, I'll still be around whenever Black men use their power to redistribute wealth.

 

 

We already are!
Lol...when was the last time you watched ESPN?

 

 

 

 

 

You can't turn on your television without seeing rich Black men in loud pin-stripped suits grinning and running their mouths.

Sitting at desks.
Giving the news.
On stage telling jokes and running their mouths.

Rich niggaz on national television wearing suits and SLAPPING the shit out of eachother.....

 

 

And more rich niggaz in the audience watching it and grinning....
 

 

WE GOT MONEY!


Look at Congress and all the Black folks you see in red dresses and bald heads, pointing fingers and walking fast with stacks of papers in their hands.

I was at Starbucks today and saw so many niggaz in Audis and Benzes roll up and hop out their rides... it made me proud, lol.

This wasn't Chicago or Atlanta either....this is in a relatively small town in western Michigan, but plenty of Black folks obviously doing VERY well.

The struggle comes when we try to rise COLLECTIVELY.
So many of us think at an individual level and can't get along with other Black folks.

[ProfD]

8 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

 WE GOT MONEY!

The struggle comes when we try to rise COLLECTIVELY.
So many of us think at an individual level and can't get along with other Black folks.

Exactly.

 

Black folks have money individually.

 

However, Black folks do not have generational wealth building institutions. 

 

Let's hope white folks continue allowing future generations of Black folks to hold something. 

 

Otherwise, when AI takes over most jobs, Black folks will be the 1st out the door. White folks gotta feed their own.

[Pioneer1]

11 minutes ago, ProfD said:

 

However, Black folks do not have generational wealth building institutions. 

 

Let's hope white folks continue allowing future generations of Black folks to hold something. 

 

 

Let's hope the future generations don't GIVE their inheritance away like so many of those in the past.

 

I don't know how many Black folks worked in those car factories in Detroit 30 and 40 years to buy houses and properties and leave it to their children only for it to end up in the hands of the city from neglect or the state because their children forfeited it for drug trafficking and other illegal activities.

 

They say a fool and his money soon parts.

 

 

[ProfD]

7 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Let's hope the future generations don't GIVE their inheritance away like so many of those in the past.

 

 They say a fool and his money soon parts.

 

 

Agreed.

 

Boomers and Gen-X were the 1st to have any type of inheritance. 

 

We can only hope that as Black folks get used to having money that inheritances do not get squandered in one way or another.

[Pioneer1]

1 minute ago, ProfD said:

 

Boomers and Gen-X were the 1st to have any type of inheritance. 

 

Remember after Slavery....during Reconstruction....hundreds of thousands of Black families were allotted land by the Union Army and we kept that land for decades...but slowly niggaz started getting "tired" and didn't want to work it or keep it up and started selling it BACK to the children of "massa".

 

And then went back looking for a damn JOB working on the same land he used to own!

That's how share-cropping got started.