Cute As A Button

[Pioneer1]

Get ready for more "objectification" of women....lol.

This woman is not only intelligent and courageous but as lovely as all get out:
 

I don't see any wedding rings on her finger either....lol.

[ProfD]

47 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

This woman is not only intelligent and courageous but as lovely as all get out:

I don't see any wedding rings on her finger either....lol.

Rep. Jasmine Crockett is a fearless cutie pie.  She needs to be protected as much as possible. 

 

Otherwise, as an unmarried career politician, it will take a while before Rep. Crockett settles down into a marriage and/or responsibilities that come along with it.

 

it will be interesting to see how far she goes in her political career. 

 

I still don't believe the system is ready for a female POTUS. 

 

But, I can see Rep. Crockett in a cabinet-level position i.e. Vice POTUS, Secretary of State, etc.

[Pioneer1]

3 minutes ago, ProfD said:

it will take a while before Rep. Crockett settles down into a marriage and/or responsibilities that come along with it.

 

 

Well, at 44.....

She better hurry up and make a decision 

[ProfD]

23 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Well, at 44.....

She better hurry up and make a decision 

As a successful woman, it is not a decision she has to make. 

 

I remember the late Larry King asking Martha Stewart if she would every remarry.  Martha said...I'm already rich, why do I need to be married? 

 

Larry King was stuck for 30 seconds.  You could see the bubble over top of his head saying "women need a man".

 

Independent women don't have to be married especially if the sole purpose of having a man is to get her oil changed.  Any Jiffy Lube will do.

[Pioneer1]

23 hours ago, ProfD said:

As a successful woman, it is not a decision she has to make. 

 

Well, you and I both know the problems our people run into when Black women started trying to learn from and take cues from these feminist White women.

Maybe SHE doesn't need a man, but most women of color need men....just like most men of color need women.

Now I'm not saying this about our sister Congresswoman Crockett in particular, but about Black women in general....
While SOME women don't need a man, the vast majority do.
Not just for financial security but for companionship and sexual satisfaction.

At some point those batteries are BOUND to run out of energy....lol....but Jamar won't!
At some point that gadget is BOUND to malfunction, but DeMarcus is a a sure thang when it comes to getting down in the sack...lol.

 

[ProfD]

11 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Now I'm not saying this about our sister Congresswoman Crockett in particular, but about Black women in general....
While SOME women don't need a man, the vast majority do.
Not just for financial security but for companionship and sexual satisfaction.

Neither a woman nor a man has to be married in order to enjoy companionship and s8xual satisfaction.

 

11 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

At some point those batteries are BOUND to run out of energy....lol....but Jamar won't!
At some point that gadget is BOUND to malfunction, but DeMarcus is a a sure thang when it comes to getting down in the sack...lol.

It is easier for a woman to replace the batteries in a gadget than it is to get rid of another human being especially if/when they start f8cking up and/or getting on their nerves.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

 

Neither a woman nor a man has to be married in order to enjoy companionship and s8xual satisfaction.

True

Infact,
In this society....in some cases there is actually more HARM that comes from legalizing their relationship than the good that comes out of it.

And being a lawyer...she probably knows that quite well..lol.

 

 

 

 

 

It is easier for a woman to replace the batteries in a gadget than it is to get rid of another human being especially if/when they start f8cking up and/or getting on their nerves.
 

Well...
That's what night stands are for.
Keep "back up" in the bottom drawer along with a pack of Duracells just incase.

Roger from What's Happening said:

HA HAAAAA!
 

[ProfD]

9 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

In this society....in some cases there is actually more HARM that comes from legalizing their relationship than the good that comes out of it.

Right.  Marriage is a social contract of accountability that serves to maintain quotas and provide a moral framework in governing s8xual relations. 

 

Men tried to come up with a way to keep themselves from running around impregnating women without a commitment to take care of them and their offspring. 

 

Especially at time when women were not providers and head of households, it would have been at bad look to have men dropping children everywhere and not providing for them.

 

We live in a society that believes it is a better look for men and women to be in committed relationships stamped in holy matrimony.

 

Of course, like the late Heavy D said, independent-minded folks got their own thang.

 

[Pioneer1]

 

ProfD

She probably hasn't met a man she feels is even on her "level"....lol.

You'd have to offer some pretty strong game to impress a sista like that.

Something tells me Cory Booker ain't even tried...lol.

[ProfD]

15 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

She probably hasn't met a man she feels is even on her "level"....lol.

Surely, she has traveled in circles and been around men on her level. 

 

Balancing her career as a politicians and having time to deal with a man would be the hurdle.

 

15 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

You'd have to offer some pretty strong game to impress a sista like that.

A man on her level doesn't need game to impress her.

15 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Something tells me Cory Booker ain't even tried...lol.

That dude would be more interested in going shopping or having a girl's night out with her.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

Balancing her career as a politicians and having time to deal with a man would be the hurdle.

If she found the RIGHT man, he'd be more of an asset than a liability.
He could actually HELP her to overcome any hurdles or obstabcles she faces.

She's a politician.
Imagine if she were to lock arms with a billionaire brother with his own Energy firm down there in Texas.

He could not only fund her re-election campaigns but use his business connections to keep the Republican wolves off her back.
Threaten to cancel their contracts with his firm if they fuck with his lady...lol.
He could also build a plant or two in her district bringing jobs and revenue.
 

Ofcourse, a brutha like that.....she might have to "share" him....if you know what I mean, lol.

 

 

 

 

That dude would be more interested in going shopping or having a girl's night out with her.

I can see him being the shoulder she can cry on, if she needs to.

But something tells me that our sista ain't much on crying....lol.
 

[ProfD]

51 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

If she found the RIGHT man, he'd be more of an asset than a liability.

He could actually HELP her to overcome any hurdles or obstabcles she faces.

She's a politician.
Imagine if she were to lock arms with a billionaire brother with his own Energy firm down there in Texas.

She's already a successful politician without needing a man's help. 

 

People hardly ever say, if that man locked arms with the *right* woman he would be more successful. 

 

Your scenario paints the picture a lot of women work hard to avoid. They strive to prove a man isn't necessary for their success.

 

Degree of success can be debated but it differs from one person to the another. 

[Pioneer1]

 

ProfD
 

 

She's already a successful politician without needing a man's help.

 

Ofcourse.
I'm not suggesting that she NEEDS a man in her life to be successful because she obviously doesn't.
But my point is the RIGHT MAN will make her MORE successful.
There's is little doubt about that.

 

They are known as POWER COUPLES and work together SYNERGISTICALLY.
Just like 2 heads are better than one, when 2 intelligent people who love eachother work together in harmony to achieve an appointed goal...their efforts will usually yield MORE than twice the amount of success that each of them would have produced individually.

When it comes to the success produced by a strong marriage built on love and intelligence, the WHOLE is greater than the sum of it's individual parts.

 

 

 

 

People hardly ever say, if that man locked arms with the *right* woman he would be more successful.

The Nation of Islam constantly teaches the men this, and many fundamentalist Christians, Jews, and Muslims teach this as well.
They teach that a man isn't "complete" unless he's married and that marriage brings out the best in him and mature him.

I personally believe SOME men are better off married and SOME men are better off single, but to be fair...most religions push marriage off on men as much as they push it off on women.

 

 

 

 

Your scenario paints the picture a lot of women work hard to avoid.

If they have to work THAT hard to avoid it, perhaps they need to stop avoiding it...lol.
Perhaps it's trying to get their attention for a reason...lol.

It may be their CONSCIENCE talking to them and telling them that whatever they're striving for, they could get it much faster if they had a good man in their life that they could depend on to help them.

If you think about it, that's just common sense.
Not that you NEED it, but who couldn't use more help to get where they're trying to go?

Oprah could use more.
She doesn't need it.....but she could use it....it wouldn't hurt.

 

 

 

Degree of success can be debated but it differs from one person to the another.

Facts.
Not only the degree but SUCCESS ITSELF and what it means to be "successful" also differs from person to person.

For some people, success means finally learning how to roll a blunt while driving.

"Jeez....
Never thought I'd be happy to get
caught by a red light!"

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

But my point is the RIGHT MAN will make her MORE successful.

There's is little doubt about that.

Sure. Rep. Crockett could hook up with a multimillionaire or billionaire and make bigger moves. 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

The Nation of Islam constantly teaches the men this, and many fundamentalist Christians, Jews, and Muslims teach this as well.
They teach that a man isn't "complete" unless he's married and that marriage brings out the best in him and mature him.

Ask a man like POTUS OJ if any of his wives contributed to his success. Wait for the amswer. Don't interrupt.

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

I personally believe SOME men are better off married and SOME men are better off single, but to be fair...most religions push marriage off on men as much as they push it off on women.

Rich and powerful white men are rarely shown with their wives if they are even married at all.

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

If they have to work THAT hard to avoid it, perhaps they need to stop avoiding it...lol.

Perhaps it's trying to get their attention for a reason...lol.

A lot of women do not want to be defined by men.

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

If you think about it, that's just common sense.
Not that you NEED it, but who couldn't use more help to get where they're trying to go?

Some folks are unwilling to *do* or put up with the strings attached to that help.

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Oprah could use more.
She doesn't need it.....but she could use it....it wouldn't hurt.

Oprah is a multibillionaire.  Only another billionaire could help her get more than she has already. 

 

Again, these successful women do not think they *need* a man.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD
 

Ask a man like POTUS OJ if any of his wives contributed to his success. Wait for the amswer. Don't interrupt.

If he pursued them....and got them...then yes.
Their contribution to his success is self evident.
Maybe not his financial success but his sexual/social success.

 

 

Rich and powerful white men are rarely shown with their wives if they are even married at all.

To the contrary, even GAY rich and powerful White men often pretend to be straight and get married to women to give off the "mature" and "morally stable" image that matrimony provides.

 

 

 

A lot of women do not want to be defined by men.

I don't blame them.
I'd go as far as to say that MOST women don't want to be defined by men.
However there's a difference between wanting a good male companion in your life and being defined by one as if you're "nobody" unless you have one.

The fact is, most women DESIRE a good man in their lives whether they actually pursue one or not.

 

 

 

Oprah is a multibillionaire. Only another billionaire could help her get more than she has already.

Or a very powerful politician with connections.
A high ranking member of the FCC could actually help her reach higher goals, if she had higher goals.

Infact, as she advances in age....having a mate who is a good DOCTOR would be beneficial to her!

Nobody is above needing or being able to use help.

 

 

 

Again, these successful women do not think they *need* a man.

 

Years ago, I had a cousin who moved up from Georgia with her kids into a cheap house she was able to buy in Detroit for $50.
It was in the straight up hood and some of my male family members offered to stay with her for as long as she needed to make sure she and the kids were safe.
She kept turning them down because she didn't think SHE *needed* a man either.

....I HAD a cousin from Georgia. 

 

[ProfD]

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

If he pursued them....and got them...then yes.

Their contribution to his success is self evident.
Maybe not his financial success but his sexual/social success.

Financial success leads to the same thing in other areas of life. Success breeds more of it.

 

Men don't make a lot of money chasing women. However, a man with a lot of money can have plenty women.

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Rich and powerful white men are rarely shown with their wives if they are even married at all.

To the contrary, even GAY rich and powerful White men often pretend to be straight and get married to women to give off the "mature" and "morally stable" image that matrimony provides.

The point was that rich and powerful men do not promote women as integral to their success.

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

The fact is, most women DESIRE a good man in their lives whether they actually pursue one or not.

The operative word being *good* which in this case can only be defined by the woman.

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Oprah is a multibillionaire. Only another billionaire could help her get more than she has already.

Or a very powerful politician with connections.
A high ranking member of the FCC could actually help her reach higher goals, if she had higher goals.

Infact, as she advances in age....having a mate who is a good DOCTOR would be beneficial to her!

I think you're overlooking the fact that Oprah is already a multibillionaire. No politician or government official can double or triple her net worth.

 

Oprah has enough money to see the best doctors on the planet. She can buy a hospital.  She doesn't need a man's help for anything. 

 

Rep. Crockett doesn't have Oprah's wealth but she's independently rich enough to stay unmarried and/or not tie herself down to a man or anyone else.

[Pioneer1]

 

ProfD
 

 

Financial success leads to the same thing in other areas of life. Success breeds more of it.

Men don't make a lot of money chasing women. However, a man with a lot of money can have plenty women.

I think you may be conflating FINANCIAL SUCCESS with SUCCESS.
They aren't necessarily the same thing.

Remember, success is simply getting what YOU want in life and accomplishing the goals you set out to accomplish.

For YOU...success may be mostly financial and see women and social relationships as a given bi-product of YOUR success.

For others...their idea success is having a 3-some every night with the women of their choice, and wealth is just ONE MEANS of achieving THEIR success.

Juvenile said: U understand?

Their main focus is on the coochie....not money.
If money, a nice car, nice clothes, or a good pick-up line is going to get them the coochie they want...then....

You see where I'm going with this.


 

 

 

 

The point was that rich and powerful men do not promote women as integral to their success.

They don't have to.
For most heterosexual men, having women is a given PART of their success.
That's why it's common for most men to have TROPHY WIVES.
An attractive woman hanging on your arms is a SIGN of your success and achievement.
 

 

 

 

The operative word being *good* which in this case can only be defined by the woman.

Agreed.
And my point remains, most women desire a GOOD man....whatever he's "good" at, lol.

 

 

I think you're overlooking the fact that Oprah is already a multibillionaire. No politician or government official can double or triple her net worth.

They can certainly PROTECT it and keep it from being taken from her by frivolous lawsuits or trumped up criminal charges that not only threaten her wealth but her very freedom.

Remember Bill Cosby TOO was (is?) a multibillionaire.
His money alone wasn't enough to keep him out of jail.
He needed more legal help or maybe a friend in high office to pardon him or toss out the charges.

Nobody is above needing help.

 

 

 

 

 

Oprah has enough money to see the best doctors on the planet. She can buy a hospital. She doesn't need a man's help for anything.

You're being figurative.
I'm being literal.

 

[ProfD]

20 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

I think you may be conflating FINANCIAL SUCCESS with SUCCESS.

They aren't necessarily the same thing.

Remember, success is simply getting what YOU want in life and accomplishing the goals you set out to accomplish.

Juvenile said: U understand?

You see where I'm going with this.

No conflation or confusion. We've had this discussion in other threads. Different perspectives. 

 

20 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Remember Bill Cosby TOO was (is?) a multibillionaire.

Cosby is a multimillionaire but he was never a billionaire.

 

20 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Oprah has enough money to see the best doctors on the planet. She can buy a hospital. She doesn't need a man's help for anything.

You're being figurative.
I'm being literal.

I'm being realistic when it comes to O-Money's bread. She's got that equator loaf. Sh8t wraps around the planet at least one time.

[Pioneer1]

18 minutes ago, ProfD said:

 

I'm being realistic when it comes to O-Money's bread. She's got that equator loaf. Sh8t wraps around the planet at least one time.

 

LMBAO

You sent me to bed with that one!

You have a wonderful rest of your night my brutha.