richardmurray Posted Thursday at 03:29 AM Report Posted Thursday at 03:29 AM New York prohibits Slavery JUNETEENTH DAY If you live in the USA? Do you know when the state you lived in prohibited slavery everywhere except prisons, when the thriteenth amendment was ratified in said state?
ProfD Posted Friday at 06:23 PM Report Posted Friday at 06:23 PM 13th amendment was ratified on 3 Feb 1865 in the state where I live. 1
richardmurray Posted Saturday at 07:03 PM Author Report Posted Saturday at 07:03 PM @ProfD does anyone honor that moment in the state you lived in? in truth, that was when the law was adopted in the state you live in. I imagine not of any of the six states on that date, because it makes sense with black history. Black DOSers gained a federalist heritage in the jim crow eras , because the shift between enslavement era[1492 to 1865] to jim crow era [1865 to 1980] meant the federal government through the amendment process, which is the most powerful plus the least used plus the most required in governing skill governing tool in the usa , had made it where black DOSers could no longer be deemed not citizens, so for the white majorities in each state, the only way to maintain financial domination was to use state government, which under the constitution is free to be different than the federal government as long as an elected affair , to create an anti black holistic bureaucracy in each state in the usa commonly called Jim Crow. I argue the whites of the confederate states: texas to virginia, gained a states rights heritage in the same jim crow era. But gardless to the historical guides, do you think said date should be honored more by Black DOSers, even with its variance in each state in the union? On 2/6/2026 at 1:23 PM, ProfD said: 13th amendment was ratified on 3 Feb 1865 in the state where I live.
ProfD Posted Sunday at 12:57 AM Report Posted Sunday at 12:57 AM 5 hours ago, richardmurray said: does anyone honor that moment in the state you lived in? in truth, that was when the law was adopted in the state you live in. I don't think so. 5 hours ago, richardmurray said: But gardless to the historical guides, do you think said date should be honored more by Black DOSers, even with its variance in each state in the union? I don't think said date should be honored either. I'm fine with Juneteenth being the celebration date among FBA/AfroAmericans. 1
richardmurray Posted Sunday at 03:15 AM Author Report Posted Sunday at 03:15 AM @ProfD 1 hour ago, ProfD said: I'm fine with Juneteenth being the celebration date among FBA/AfroAmericans. I apologize, I did not meant to suggest the 13th amendment dates as a replacement for juneteenth, rather an addition. Juneteenth in my mind is a federal , encompassing all the states, event. It isn't about when any one state made slavery illegal outside prisons, but celebrating the illegality of enslavement at the federal level above the states. I restate my old question do you think the amendment adoption date for each state should be honored in each state alongside the federal level juneteenth? I assume based on your reply no, but then the question is why? Simply want the juneteenth to be as it is unchanges? Don't like the idea of a state based celebration? or other?
ProfD Posted Sunday at 03:29 AM Report Posted Sunday at 03:29 AM 11 minutes ago, richardmurray said: I restate my old question do you think the amendment adoption date for each state should be honored in each state alongside the federal level juneteenth? I assume based on your reply no, but then the question is why? Simply want the juneteenth to be as it is unchanges? Don't like the idea of a state based celebration? or other? FBA/AfroAmericans recognized Juneteenth before it became a federal holiday. We might as well roll with it. 1
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