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MLK jr day is on the 19th in 2026
aka Contrarian replied to richardmurray's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
First of all, nothing you said changed my mind about referring to Malcom as "militant". In fact, you just provided a lot of reasons to justify his being militant, a perfectly good word which you apparently consider a stigma. As for your other questions. I agree with ProfD on the first two and disagree with him on the 3rd. -
I am happy AALBC is still in existence. I need to test the calendar export and see what is actually exported as some of my calendar post are quite large. And I was wrong active membership didn't double by 2026. I have to do better.
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Have you ever heard of Miss Black America?
aka Contrarian replied to richardmurray's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
We have no way of knowing which one of us is right. Do we? -
Poetry fans! Cento series episode 87 enjoy the poetry
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Have you ever heard of Miss Black America?
richardmurray replied to richardmurray's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
@aka Contrarian I oppose that thinking , the word is perfect, a complete work, ompletion doesn't occur when all is good, that is imbalance. negativity must be part of anything for it to be truly perfect. life is even, it is human beings who are not even. It is human beings that make living uneven plus inequal. it isn't nature or other lifeforms. Nature promises balance. Humans beings imbalance. -
Has Universal income gotten closer to being needed
richardmurray replied to richardmurray's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
@Pioneer1 your, not our, me and mine are not part of the our you speak of. Militaristically, the reality is present, a weak country, absent a decent military, is too far away to be bullied properly, while it has vast resources at its doorstep... no. whomever those some maybe, are completely wrong It is the same reason far east asia has the least militaristic presence of western europe, distance. distance is a powerful thing, and worth alot when you can't beat a bully and not us, you or yours canada nor mexico are not hard to explain. but the quick version is canada 's natural environment is much harsher than the usa for the technology of either countries nascence. Mexico like all of latin america [ haiti/brazil/columbia/or similar lke french canada which would become canada and the midwest states of the usa] was not viewed by the latin european empires [ france/spain/portugal] as anything but natural resource extractors. But the english viewed anglo america[ usa/jamaica] as places for profit + immigration, to dump their religious fanatics/criminals/illegal actors/general fiscal poor like fidel did with csimilar cubans and the florida exodus. So the usa grew a populace that was legally tied to the european center, unlike latin america where the white male warrior populace made the mulatto/mestizo / enslaved the black to operate the system of extraction. That is why the most profitable regions at the time were haiti/the spanish dominion from modern day canada to argentina. LAtin America was really a set of prison camps, just enough guards to maintain the money. Ship the money to europe. The usa wasn't the wealthiest zone in the americas financially. this is part of why england tried so many tax schemes and et cetera. So canada or mexico had a different origin in key ways financially but also militaristically. and not we, you or yours, not me or mine. not us, you and yours. I am nt and have never been statian and said it way too many times to require repeating. Well, I know that at the end of the commonly called world war two, the usa couldn't continue the war for overreach and the usa + ussr wanted to continue warring on the battlefield... but they simply couldn't and neither was willing to give up their militaristic advantage to the likes of western europe/japan who were completely annihilated , or the dominions of the former western european empires that had been intentionally run dysfunctionally. Because in the usa's case it is just luck, fate. the usa didn't even know how to wage a sea war. if the french didn't get involved in the war against the british empire, I am 100% certain the usa doesn't exist today as it is. history is 100% changed. France won that war. But that wasn't because the usa was smart, it was because france and england were in a centuries old blood feud. I will make the historical argument said blod feud lasted from the time of the viking's coming down at the end of the roman empire centered at old rome, till the end of commonly called world war 2. that is thousands of years. But they are neighbors, always similar in power, so any war between them will always be a war of equals which means real bloody and that kind of blood transcends marketplaces. They had 100 years war with each other, that isn't a joke. Vendetta's are real in humanity. Quite a number of them exists throughout humanity. The serbs and croats were fighting before the soviet union, during the soviet and after the soviet union. I bet if japan had an viable military and invaded the korean peninsula, all koreans would unite real quick, the only thing all koreans still know is to hate the japanese. hell, Black people enslaved in north america have a blood feud with whites, it predated the usa, exists still now during the usa and knowing vendettas will exist after the usa, cause, blood feuds aren't about money. yes, fiscally greedy people involve themselves, but the energy fueling it, like the hatfields and mccoys in the appalachias is old wounds that money nor time can heal. the healing can only come from the hearts. but both hearts have to be willing. The zionists and palestineans are a blood feud. the ira was only 300 people but the blood feud between the irish and english, which still has many adherents on either side,, was so strong, those 300 used more explosives than the usa in vietnam. So I said all of this to make it clear, don't underestimate the power of a blood feud and how it can influence history. saved the usa. France and england were so used to being at war, it became natural. Well, you have presented your fiscal position:) thank you. this is the economic corner.I comprehend your stance though it warrants discourse. either or both depending on who you ask. Remember the usa has always had multiple financial positions. Some black or non black have always believed in private ownership leading the way, thus private hospitals, the logic being people will figure out a way to afford a hospital or move. Some black or non black have always believed municipal activity, the government enganging in services to the public, the logic being it represents positive graces among humans, regardless of the cost or tax burden. Some black or non black try to find a bridge between both Some black or non black are anarchist who don't want either. So whose fault? I don't know. It all depends on point of view. But why should ne point of view be correct or wrong? one point of view has always been implemented from whomever is in power. how do I feel about currency? I try to stay away from that kind of discourse in the economic corner, feelings lead to rubbish in financial discourse for me. But as I try to answer every question, I will provide an answer, which I have said before. All ideas are effective based on implementation. To reword, currency is merely an idea, if implemented a certain way to a certain place or time it will succeed . If implemented other ways it will fail. but that is with all ideas. socialism/monarchy/vendetta... implementation is always the key, not right or wrong. And luck can be the key to implementation, not any human planning. -
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Not sure of how this thread became about Iran not siding with Black nations. Of course, those Persians (Aryans) and sand n8gglets in general have zero respect for Black folks who they feel bent a knee to imperialism a long time ago.
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Here's Another One Coo Coo For Some Coco...........
ProfD replied to Pioneer1's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
Black folks have been straightening and dyeing their hair and wearing cosmetics for many decades. Before Malcolm X underwent his transformation he was "running around putting chemicals in his hair". These younger folks may be choosing more extreme hair dye colors and forms of self-expression but there's nothing new under the sun. That includes older generation making observations of and/or complaining about younger generation. -
I do not believe passive resistance has broken up many black clans/homes. I do not criminalize or criticize Black folks who do not adhere to non-violence and/or passive resisitance. I.do not believe Black folks should have faith in the rule of law to protect us especially from the acts of white racists and their agents. While I understand why Black folks have resorted to non-violence and passive resisitance, I do not believe it has been nor will it ever be an effective tactic in dealing with the enemy that is racism white supremacy. Personally, I totally side with Sean Bell's father. IOW, I'm not an advocate of non-violent and passive resisitance. I believe Black folks should be proficient in using weapons and self-defense. We should have a special forces unit as well. As I've mentioned before, on a public forum that's my polite way of expressing such beliefs as it relates to dealing with non-Black folks who disrespect and violate FBA/AfroAmericans.
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Has Universal income gotten closer to being needed
Pioneer1 replied to richardmurray's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
richardmurray globally recognized? not everyone views Mensa like that? humanity is quite large you know. disability does not make one dumb and to education... i argue education is rarely designed functionally, anywhere in humanity. Global doesn't necessarily mean everyone ON the globe...lol....but people AROUND the globe. so you believe in smarter and neutral, not smarter or dumber... ok Don't over complicate it...lol. -There are no dumb nations -Some nations are smarter than others two big oceans border the country, That factor could have been just as easily worked AGAINST our favor as IN our favor. Some would have seen this as geographical isolation from the rest of the world...especially the Eastern Hemisphere. But intelligence didn't let this stop us. neighbors who have always been impotent or at least not able to strike hard, and only two by land. If they were/are impotent...why? They are nations made up of human beings just like the United States. So why would we be so much powerful unless it's due to intelligence? a financial history, including the white european colonial, where inequal or uneven financial system allowed for the production of weapons at larger quantities than most, not quality , but quantity. For me, nazi germany or soviet russia built better weapons by a mile than the usa, but no one produces more than our friendly neighborhood white slaver. I'm not sure if you're correct about the weaponry of Germany or Russia. But the fact is both of those nations....unlike the United States...were lacking a sizable Black population. The Black population of the United States is one of the key features that make us a global power because it's the source of our superior entertainment that's marketed and envied across the globe. No weapon the usa has is exclusive to the usa, but usa has more of them. But none of the usa military rivals had enslavement like the usa. russia was an empire and cossacks and checyens were abused but they weren't enslaved like blacks to whites in the usa. The soviet union has a pro european bias in its populace, a heritage from the czars, but russia has been battling all of its life it has never been far from a rival. China has never been far from a rival, and its neighbors have at times been far more powerful. so the usa has fortune on its side, most empires do. IT isn't smarts or intelligence. Perhaps the superior intelligence OF the United States above other nations (a fact that you insist on denying) is part of that fortune! hmmm, the heritage of the usa is private care, ala fiscal capitalism, if you can pay for a doctor you have one. public hospitals heritage in the usa is from pro bono work, not for profit. They're CALLED private hospitals but they're not really private. They're actually corporately owned hospitals for the public. Corporate is what I like to call "semi-private". Because it's often controlled and regulated by the government but not completely owned by it nor does one person or family own it but usually a huge market of shareholders.....it doesn't fall squarely into the government, public OR private slots. no, nyc has been underserved by hospitals for its entire history Is this the fault of the private hospitals, or the fault of the government for not building hospitals of it's own to compete with the private ones insuring consistent progress and low costs, as well as cater to the needs of the people? universal income will not delete currency, if I said I feel it will , I apologize, that wasn't my intent. I said: This society is far too complex to operate without currency. Your response was: I think a solution exists that I have never seen tried, so it can't be proven. But, I don't think so. I took that to mean that you thought operating with currency was a problem that needed a solution. You just said that universal income will not delete currency. However how do you feel ABOUT currency and the use of currency in society? -
Here's Another One Coo Coo For Some Coco...........
Pioneer1 replied to Pioneer1's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
ProfD Coco is a young adult having fun in her profession and taking it to the bank. I do not believe she's self-hating or insecure in her own beauty. She's living her best life. Have you noticed that for the past 10 years or so, what many young Black women call "fun" and looking their "best" involves dying their hair blonde? Going to bars, getting drunk, flirting with White men...even if they don't really find them attractive...and dying their hair blonde. Even when they're trying to be professional and serious, they think "blonde" hair is the way to go: Basically imitating...or TRYING to imitate...middle class White women. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said: Accept your own and be yourself That has a lot of meanings, however one of them is be the best version of YOU. Don't try to improve yourself by trying to be someone else. When we did that as AfroAmericans back in the late 60s and 70s...we were the envy of the world. White people were getting perms and afros nappying their hair up trying to look like US. -
ProfD Regardless (richardmurray said "gardless"....lol) of that, the fact is most Persians consider themselves "Aryan" (Iran) by race and tend to be quite racist. They'll side with the U.S. and Israel before siding with any Black nation...lol.
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MLK jr day is on the 19th in 2026
richardmurray replied to richardmurray's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
@aka Contrarian Wasn't Malcolm's father murdered by whites? around your neck of the usa in the midwest? He didn't talk tough, he talked from experience. The experience of a Black child who witnessed his nonviolent preacher father be murdered by whites for the crime of wanting black ownership and preaching to other black people to leave the usa if they are unhappy. A black child who witnessed his yella, black mother, be drove into a living prison by white power. MLK jr's father was never murdered by whites even though Gerogia is full of violent whites. MLK jr's mother was never drove into a living prison even though the bureaucracy of georgia has done so to many black women. Malcolm was born from parents who were exodusters or garveyites or preacher folk? right? wasn't that malcolm's guidance as a youth. Exodusters aren't militant or segregated. yes, they want seperate places in the usa for black people , but they never advocated violence except in self defense. And isn't self defense eternally warranted by black people based on white actions? What year have whites not harmed a black person and gotten away with it in the usa? I argue MAlcolm , pre during or post elijah muhammed , always embraced that some black folk need to leave white countries all together in a true segregation/garvey, some black folk need to have their own seperate places in a white country/exodusters , but malcolm learned that some black folk can live amongst whites/integrated as in slavery or jim crow or now, but that doesn't mean they should not have the protection his parents didn't have. Malcolm never wanted to be a cult leader, which is what elijah muhammed plus the other pastors of the nation of islam wanted by their actions. They used malcolm, the same way the southern black christian pastors, who were also cult leaders, used mlk jr as a front man for their activities. as stokely carmichael said, can you imagine a black baptist preacher not accepting a cadillac. 100% true and I must add We black people in the usa and arguably all blacks in all humanity owe the whole movement of Black empowerment from the era of enslavement plus the era of jim crow , a debt of gratitude. And I hope we can learn from MLK jr teachings as well as Malcolms and many others. MAlcolm for me teaches a valuable lesson about early efficiency, don't let your idol ruin your plan. For me, MAlcolm had the best leadership skills among all black leaders in the usa when he lived, but he had one flaw he never recovered from, he allowed his idolization for an older black leader, in his case elijah muhammed , to cloud or manipulate his larger planning. That was a mistake. MLK jr for me teaches a valuable lesson in handling handlers, two questions AkaContrarian with a setup and amendment, and @ProfD + @Pioneer1 I ponder your thoughts to the three elements as well. Here is the setup when Sean Bell's father was asked in media what he felt, after his son was murdered by law enforcement in the new york city through forty one bullet shots, sean bell's father said he wanted the law enforcers dead. And al sharpton, the white media, the lawyers for the bell family, didn't have him around for anything afterward... It is clear the form of passive resisitance many blacks in the usa adhere to seems a complete form, that doesn't accept violence in weapons or closed fists but also in discourse. my questions, 1) has that interpretation of passive resistance broken up many black clans/homes? 2) do black people who adhere to passive resisitance criminalize plus illegalize [both not just one, meaning make a return of violence criminal while also have an unwritten black legal code that illegalizes black people who don't adhere by excommunication in various ways] actions by black people or black people themselves who don't adhere? in amendment, I think of two things. 1. amiri baraka who said the bussers were crazy getting ice cream and assaulted while doing nothing. 2. a black woman in texas, a matriarch, who told two nephews to leave texas after whites had assaulted their home and they wanted to act violently in return. I realize now, the language I need to have. And thank you three Contrarian/pioneer/profd for getting me to this place. When contrarian you said passive resistance, it made me realize to what extremes you refer to. The words/phrase resistance or nonviolence or passive or militant or violent keep getting used. But the issue here is the faith in the rule of law. Not the "rule of law" but " faith in the rule of law" as opposed to "function based on the life of black people" I see the lines from crispus attics, the black people who embraced whites like george washington before during or after 1776 in the enslavement era + Frederick Douglass, the black people who fought for the union or confederacy +MLK jr, the black people who nonviolently in all ways fought for black empowerment in the later years of jim crow era, Barrack Obama, the black people in the age of the rainbow, a set of black people have a "faith in the rule of law" such that even if the law is designed against black people, even if the law allows non blacks to terrorize black people, even if the law can't protect blacks from being terrorized by non blacks, each of said groups actions show a faith that the legal system, the law, in its processes and eventual result is satisfactory, even if the law fails during their lifetime to change for the better. They are willing to die in the courtroom, even as tulsa burns and black pregnant women are being hung. In parallel, from the black loyalists, black people who committed to vendetta against the whites of the colonies, white people of england didn't enslave blacks in the colonies, it was white colonist and colonialist before during or after 1776 in the enslavement era+ Nat Turner or Exodusters, the black people who retaliated when the law failed , wanted self defense, not isolation+ Malcolm who never felt black people should allow or invite harm from others which faith demands, when the law didn't protect black people from white terror in the jim crow era, to Assata Shakur and the many blacks later who have left the usa in the age of the rainbow, a set of black people have a "function based on the life of black people" such that the historical facts of the law working against black people, law allowing non blacks to terrorize black people, law not protecting blacks from being terrorized by blacks, prove to said folks a need/demand/function to act outside the law which can not be denied for a truly free black peoples whether they have white neighbors or not, even if they know they are disadvantaged, maybe inevitably, or if nonlegal actions fail during their lifetime for the better. They are willing to die outside the courttoom, even if non black power or black allegiances to the courtrom give advantages. I ponder if a bridge can be made between faith or function? -
Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro Captured by US
ProfD replied to ProfD's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
Right. Every now and then, somebody comes along who wants to change the rules of the game to suit themselves. -
Have you ever heard of Miss Black America?
aka Contrarian replied to richardmurray's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
If we lived in a perfect world, none if these bumps in the road would hamper one's life's journey. Folks need to be reminded on a regular basis that "nobody promised you a rose garden". At some point little girls and boys have to mature into adults who deal with reality. Life is not fair. -
Here's Another One Coo Coo For Some Coco...........
ProfD replied to Pioneer1's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
Coco is a young adult having fun in her profession and taking it to the bank. I do not believe she's self-hating or insecure in her own beauty. She's living her best life. -
MLK jr day is on the 19th in 2026
aka Contrarian replied to richardmurray's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
@richardmurrayyou disagreed with my calling Malcom X "militant" and asked what I consider "militant". Malcom was famous for the response he'd give when questioned about how he'd combat white aggression. "By any means necessary," was his adament response. And the Black Muslim quasi-military Fruit of Islam group presented the impression of being his back-up. This is a militant stance that didn't align with King's passive resistance philosophy which is why I and a lot of others considered Malcom militant. He talked tough. And I disagree with your implication that Malcom was in agreement with MLK on integration. He wasn't entirely opposed to white assistance but he was iinitially a black separatist advocate until he broke ranks with Elijah Muhammad later on. And it should also be noted that during the MLK and Malcom era, TV talk shows were all the rage. These 2 black spokesmen were popular guest panalists on these airings and what came out of their mouths during these discussions was what defined them. They made their positions clear on live TV and were very articulate in doing so. The media contributed greatly to their influence and enabled them to get their messages across even if what they said was sometimes misinterpreted. MLK often defended the protests and boycotts and demonstrations he organized by explaining that activists had to dramatize their grievances to call attention to them. In the struggle for civil rights, the movement was played out on the world stage. Martin and Malcom were super stars personifying 2 different approaches to the black quest for equality. What went on behind the scenes is not entirely known. But their influence lives on and black Americans owe them a debt of gratitude. -
MLK jr day is on the 19th in 2026
richardmurray replied to richardmurray's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
@Pioneer1behave yourself -
MLK jr day is on the 19th in 2026
Pioneer1 replied to richardmurray's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
Really.......... Was this during your "salad making days"??? -
Here's Another One Coo Coo For Some Coco...........
Pioneer1 replied to Pioneer1's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
Coco Gauff jokes about her new look: 'There's another redhead who's killing it here' Coco Gauff Leaves Nothing to Chance: Even Her Hair Color Nods to Success Since the start of the season, Coco Gauff has changed her look by opting for a new hairstyle and a reddish tint. A detail that sparked a rather surprising question in a press conference, when a journalist asked her what it felt like to "join the group" of redheaded players, alluding to Jannik Sinner. "There's another redhead who's doing very well here" The world No. 3, always ready to respond with a touch of humor and sincerity, hopes this new tint will bring her success: "I thought it might help, considering there's another redhead who's doing very well. Maybe it'll bring me luck, because he has a very good record here, unlike me. We'll see." Coco Gauff jokes about her new look: 'There's another redhead who's killing it here' Now our sista is putting red dye in her hair and trying to impress "somebody" and claiming she hope it brings her more luck. Man, man, man................. She didn't think she was beautiful enough as she was? -
Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro Captured by US
Pioneer1 replied to ProfD's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
Even if you're just playing games, there are certain rules to them...lol. -
MLK jr day is on the 19th in 2026
richardmurray replied to richardmurray's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
@ProfD I am not proselytizing. But I do comprehend in greater ways how powerful the media narrative developed by white media and the black church is when it comes to MLK jr. It has grown since his murder and been used to give him a holier than status.
