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One of our....rather more outspoken....lol...contributors, said in another discussion: "The only people masculinizing black women are triflin' black men who have forced them to play the "father" role for the children they make and desert." While that may SEEM to be a valid point on it's surface, I can't help but notice something when I meet women from other cultures............. I've seen women from the Middle East and Afghanistan who grew up seeing all of the men of their village slaughtered, sometimes in front of them. Very traumatic. Yet these women still have kept their femininity. There are MILLIONS of women in the Middle East, Asia, and Africa who have had to raise children without a man in the home but they still retain their femininity. You don't see them walking around showing off their muscles. You don't see them getting tattoos all over their bodies. Their voices aren't deeper. You don't see videos of them balling up their fists and fighting at hamburger joints and family picnics or outside of gas stations. No matter what they've gone through they retain and maintain their femininity. Something is being done to the women HERE that is clearly making many of them more masculine than the women of other countries or cultures. You can look at a lot of the little girls in school and how much they love fighting and talk about fighting to realize something is disturbingly wrong. For decades we've talked about dead beat dads and why so many men have walked off from their own children and avoided their responsibilities. In the vast majority of the cases I personally know of....it wasn't the children or being forced to take care of them that was the problem; it was the baby mammas and the inability to get along with THEM that was the issue. Not saying the mothers were at fault OR the fathers, but the inability for the couple to stand eachother was the main reason those families fell apart. On the flip side of that..... I know more than a few Black men who had children by MULTIPLE women and abandoned them and have little to do with the children, yet got themselves foreign wives from other countries and not only stuck with those wives but had children with them and either raised or are raising those children! In a few cases, some these same brothers met foreign women WITH children who were not their own! And married these women and raised these children! Read me carefully: Some of the SAME Black men who had children by multiple women and abandoned those women and children, later on met women from other countries WITH children and took on the responsibility not only of marriage but raising THOSE children as their own! So perhaps the question would have to be.... What is it about SOME of our women here in America that is so frustrating or repulsive that a man would rather get with another woman from outside his own culture and raise HER children as his own, rather than being with women he initially obviously found attractive enough to have children by?
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Different strokes for different folks
aka Contrarian replied to aka Contrarian's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
Just because a person is always on their phone, doesn't mean they're on social media. They could be scrolling through YouTube like you guys who place sooo much reliance on the videos you post to illustrate your points. They could be watching porn, or reading an E-Book, or, like me, playing card games and watching music videos and reels featuring people like Neil de grasse Tyson breaking down complicated concepts like quantum physics, or clips of BEAR game highlights, or computer-generated trips through the universe, or arguing on forums with people of different political persuasion. When it's winter and you're house bound, your computer devices and TV are what help chase away boredom, and are your windows to the world ,- rather than an altar where you worship. -
I don't know what kind of relationship he had with his White wife. They may have had an "open" relationship where she knew and allowed for him to cheat, I don't know one way or the other. It's not a matter of empathizing with or having sympathy for him, it's about the double standard that this society in general has for powerful Black men and powerful White men. If this Black man was married to a Black woman and cheated on her with a Black woman who worked there, the University probably would have never fired him. Even if he had broke into the woman's house later and threatened to kill her or himself with a knife, it probably would have barely made headlines. But the firing AND the publicity is done strategically to "scare" Black men away from sexual relationships with White women by publicly humiliating him. I won't call it a lynching but I will call it a public humiliation done for racist puposes.
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Cynthia Erivo: Disgracing The Black Woman
aka Contrarian replied to Pioneer1's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
@Pioneer1Watta crock. The only people masculinizing black women are triflin' black men who have forced them to play the "father" role for the children they make and desert. It makes no sense that black women would be singled out by a magazine, as a group to be masculinized. The LBGTQ commuity, made up of people from all ethnicities, doesn't need any outside help to increase its ranks. The trend toward sexual fluidity is evolving on its own as time brings change. Go crawl back down your rabbit hole. -
Whatever. I have no sympathy for a married man with kids and a good job and respected reputation who throws it all away to sneak around with another woman. He brought his fall from grace on himself. Tough shit. You and all your warped rationales can't change the fact he let his penis do the thinking. Something I'm not surprised you'd empathize with.
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aka Contrarian Oh...... Did he fire himself from the University? Did he arrest and lock himself up? Did he volunteer for his pictures and this story to make headlines across the nation? Right or wrong, he was a heterosexual man BEING/ACTING like a heterosexual man. The only part he did wrong...IMO...was showing up at that girl's house and threatening her.
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@Pioneer1No, I'm disgusted and embarrassed. Not totally surprised, however. Also, unsympathetic because he brought it all on himself. My question to you is who is responsible for this guy's behavior? Is it the result of a conspiracy designed to make black men throw their lives away over white woman? Or is it the misstep of a brotha who thinks with his big penis because of the narrative those like you circulate, promoting black males as super stud role models?
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I'm a big EWF fan. Their music is instantly recognizable, featuring Phillip Baily's high falsetto and a strong horn section, along with funky guitar artistry. Founder and front man Maurice White was from Chicago. Obviously, I didn't know they had ever ventured into folk music territory.
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Different strokes for different folks
Pioneer1 replied to aka Contrarian's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
How about this: Social Media IS a Religion Neely Fuller Jr. said that a "religion" is a strong belief backed up by action. Religion isn't necessarily what you CALL yourself or were born into. It's what you believe strongly AND do on a routine and regular basis. Many Italians may claim to be Catholic by the Mafia is their religion. Many Arabs may claim Islam but fighting and making war is their religion. Many people may claim to be Christian but racism is their religion. Likewise.... If you spend over 80% of your waking life on social media either publishing or watching and feel depressed when you don't have access to it, social media IS your religion. -
Cynthia Erivo: Disgracing The Black Woman
Pioneer1 replied to Pioneer1's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
ProfD .....and I wonder why? Troy How can you...as heterosexual Black man who is old enough and intelligent enough to SEE the generational shift and what's going on...say this is pretty much nothing? It's clear and obvious that they are pushing masculinity on our women and encouraging them to be that way or atleast trying to portray Black women as being more masculine. When was the last time you saw an Arab or Indian woman portrayed like that on the cover of any magazine? Asian women are among the most numerous women on the planet, so surely they could have found plenty of Asian women to put on the cover of those magazines. But no... These White publications dug through the pile until they found EXACTLY who they wanted to portray in that manner -a Black woman. -
Troy You still haven't answer MY question..lol....do YOU believe these things happened? I asked you weeks ago are you an agnostic, and you have yet to answer that either. I read the Bible as well as other religious books for reference purposes as well as to make conversation and relatability. I can relate to people of other cultures and religions more when I know a little something about what THEY believe, even if I don't believe it myself.
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Troy Now that you mention it, I have heard this before. John Oliver did a segment on it with news anchors, saying it and complained. They didn’t know what it meant.. You explained what it meant, but I still don’t get it. Me neither. I did a little research on it but I think it's pretty much meaningless. Some sort of "generational" thing where a lot of younger people are just going around repeating memes they get from each other TRYING to be or sound "cool". in fact, in the photo that you just shared, the white boy looks younger as she does do you know their respective ages? I would not be surprised if he’s actually younger. According to reports online this Andrea Preti dude IS younger than her at 37 (she's 45). I'm not sure how you can tell that big of an age difference simply by looking at those pictures. I don't know a lot of 45 year old women in every day society who look like Venus either in the face or in the body...lol. do you look at successful black men who have married white women and want to find you a white woman because that’s what they did? No, but you can't compare the two. Most Black men and most males in general tend to be LESS influenced by the media than women. They ARE influenced to some degree, but must less than women are. There are some things that women find universally attractive in men regardless of race, nationality, or culture like wealth, strength, etc.....but much of what most women find attractive seems to be heavily influenced by the society they grew up in with heavy influences by their peers, by their family, and by the media both mainstream, online, and social media. Take Asian women for example..... For centuries if not thousands of years Asian women in the far East had never even SEEN a Black man and many of them thought Black men were animals with tails based on what White men told them. But just a few generations ago many Black men eventually had Asian wives, girlfriends, and lovers from Korea, Japan, and the Philippines. Why? Because they got to know a lot of Black men when they went over to these nations as soldiers and occupied their lands. In many cases the women fell in love with these men.
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If she wind, that would be quite an accomplishment.
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Are you happy to see this Black man humiliated before the national public?
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Venezuela Under Fire Boats and Oil Tankers
Pioneer1 replied to ProfD's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
This is just another distraction. Just like the Epstein files. Something for the mainstream media to focus on knowing damn well they aren't going to do anything regardless as to how much wrong doing has been found, instead of focusing on the REAL crimes these politicians are committing. So what if those boats were blown up or seized illegally? Then what? We know nobody is going to be thrown out of office or go to jail over it. It's just something for the media to focus the people's attention on like a soap opera...lol. -
Rep. Jasmine Crockett Running for Senate
Pioneer1 replied to ProfD's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
I hope she runs and I hope she wins! She's not only beautiful but very intelligence and professional. She's also tough and a fighter. Something I don't necessarily find attractive in a woman, but it's good for her personally and good for the people she represents. -
https://www.npr.org/2025/12/09/nx-s1-5637426/democratic-rep-jasmine-crockett-launches-bid-for-u-s-senate-in-texas Rep. Crockett has already been a rising star in the democratic party. She's definitely one ofnits nail fire brand politician. I hope Rep. Crockett has a top notch security detail. She needs to be protected.
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https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-preparing-seize-more-tankers-off-venezuelas-coast-after-first-ship-taken-2025-12-11/ First, the US was blowing up boats under the guise of narco-terrorism. This week, the US has escalated into seizing oil tankers. Clearly, the US is in the process of forcing a regime change in Venezuela. The goal is to force President Nicolas Maduro into stepping down. POTUS OJ wasn't a warmonger during his 1st term. I'm guessing he feels weakened since Russian President Vlady Putin won't stop pummeling Ukraine. POTUS OJ has found a punching bag In Venezuela. There is no real outrage or push-back among Congress nor a majority of the American people.
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Now that you mention it, I have heard this before. John Oliver did a segment on it with news anchors, saying it and complained. They didn’t know what it meant.. You explained what it meant, but I still don’t get it. I guess my brain needs to understand it’s ovation like why is 6/7 anonymous with duh? Not in my opinion. Keep in mind many of the pictures you see of them have been optimized. They’re not exactly candid shots.. Now I’m not saying the sisters look bad. I’m just saying they don’t look like 20 year-old women. in fact, in the photo that you just shared, the white boy looks younger as she does do you know their respective ages? I would not be surprised if he’s actually younger. @Pioneer1 do you look at successful black men who have married white women and want to find you a white woman because that’s what they did? I know humans are generally pretty dumb, but you are giving him zero credit. You may want to emulate someone who successful in a specific field and completely ignore who they’ve chosen as a partner. Women who want to be a professional tennis player can aspire to be like Serena and also understand her partner has absolutely nothing to do. What with what made her successful in tennis.
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I'm a big EWF fan. Their music is instantly recognizable, featuring Phillip Baily's high falsetto and a strong horn section, along with funky guitar artistry. Founder and front man Maurice White was from Chicago. Obviously, I didn't know they had ever ventured into folk music territory.
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"Where Have All the Flowers Gone" was written by Pete Seeger. Several artists covered the song including Earth, Wind and Fire (EWF). "That's the Way of the World" was an EWF hit song.
