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richardmurray globally recognized? not everyone views Mensa like that? humanity is quite large you know. disability does not make one dumb and to education... i argue education is rarely designed functionally, anywhere in humanity. Global doesn't necessarily mean everyone ON the globe...lol....but people AROUND the globe. so you believe in smarter and neutral, not smarter or dumber... ok Don't over complicate it...lol. -There are no dumb nations -Some nations are smarter than others two big oceans border the country, That factor could have been just as easily worked AGAINST our favor as IN our favor. Some would have seen this as geographical isolation from the rest of the world...especially the Eastern Hemisphere. But intelligence didn't let this stop us. neighbors who have always been impotent or at least not able to strike hard, and only two by land. If they were/are impotent...why? They are nations are made up of human beings just like the United States. So why would we be so much powerful unless it's due to intelligence? a financial history, including the white european colonial, where inequal or uneven financial system allowed for the production of weapons at larger quantities than most, not quality , but quantity. For me, nazi germany or soviet russia built better weapons by a mile than the usa, but no one produces more than our friendly neighborhood white slaver. I'm not sure if you're correct about the weaponry of Germany or Russia. But the fact is both of those nations....unlike the United States...were lacking a sizable Black population. The Black population of the United States is one of the key features that make us a global power because it's the source of our superior entertainment that's marketed and envied across the globe. No weapon the usa has is exclusive to the usa, but usa has more of them. But none of the usa military rivals had enslavement like the usa. russia was an empire and cossacks and checyens were abused but they weren't enslaved like blacks to whites in the usa. The soviet union has a pro european bias in its populace, a heritage from the czars, but russia has been battling all of its life it has never been far from a rival. China has never been far from a rival, and its neighbors have at times been far more powerful. so the usa has fortune on its side, most empires do. IT isn't smarts or intelligence. Perhaps the superior intelligence OF the United States above other nations (a fact that you insist on denying) is part of that fortune! hmmm, the heritage of the usa is private care, ala fiscal capitalism, if you can pay for a doctor you have one. public hospitals heritage in the usa is from pro bono work, not for profit. They're CALLED private hospitals but they're not really private. They're actually corporately owned hospitals for the public. Corporate is what I like to call "semi-private". Because it's often controlled and regulated by the government but not completely owned by it nor does one person or family own it but usually a huge market of shareholders.....it doesn't fall squarely into the government, public OR private slots. no, nyc has been underserved by hospitals for its entire history Is this the fault of the private hospitals, or the fault of the government for not building hospitals of it's own to compete with as well as cater to the needs of the people? universal income will not delete currency, if I said I feel it will , I apologize, that wasn't my intent. I said: This society is far too complex to operate without currency. Your response was: I think a solution exists that I have never seen tried, so it can't be proven. But, I don't think so. I took that to mean that you thought operating with currency was a problem that needed a solution. You just said that universal income will not delete currency. However how do you feel ABOUT currency and the use of currency in society?

ProfD Coco is a young adult having fun in her profession and taking it to the bank. I do not believe she's self-hating or insecure in her own beauty. She's living her best life. Have you noticed that for the past 10 years or so, what many young Black women call "fun" and looking their "best" involves dying their hair blonde? Going to bars, getting drunk, flirting with White men...even if they don't really find them attractive...and dying their hair blonde. Even when they're trying to be professional and serious, they think "blonde" hair is the way to go: Basically imitating...or TRYING to imitate...middle class White women. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said: Accept your own and be yourself That has a lot of meanings, however one of them is be the best version of YOU. Don't try to improve yourself by trying to be someone else. When we did that as AfroAmericans back in the late 60s and 70s...we were the envy of the world. White people were getting perms and afros nappying their hair up trying to look like US.

ProfD Regardless (richardmurray said "gardless"....lol) of that, the fact is most Persians consider themselves "Aryan" (Iran) by race and tend to be quite racist. They'll side with the U.S. and Israel before siding with any Black nation...lol.

I think this is a trick question.....lol

@aka Contrarian Wasn't Malcolm's father murdered by whites? around your neck of the usa in the midwest? He didn't talk tough, he talked from experience. The experience of a Black child who witnessed his nonviolent preacher father be murdered by whites for the crime of wanting black ownership and preaching to other black people to leave the usa if they are unhappy. A black child who witnessed his yella, black mother, be drove into a living prison by white power. MLK jr's father was never murdered by whites even though Gerogia is full of violent whites. MLK jr's mother was never drove into a living prison even though the bureaucracy of georgia has done so to many black women. Malcolm was born from parents who were exodusters or garveyites or preacher folk? right? wasn't that malcolm's guidance as a youth. Exodusters aren't militant or segregated. yes, they want seperate places in the usa for black people , but they never advocated violence except in self defense. And isn't self defense eternally warranted by black people based on white actions? What year have whites not harmed a black person and gotten away with it in the usa? I argue MAlcolm , pre during or post elijah muhammed , always embraced that some black folk need to leave white countries all together in a true segregation/garvey, some black folk need to have their own seperate places in a white country/exodusters , but malcolm learned that some black folk can live amongst whites/integrated as in slavery or jim crow or now, but that doesn't mean they should not have the protection his parents didn't have. Malcolm never wanted to be a cult leader, which is what elijah muhammed plus the other pastors of the nation of islam wanted by their actions. They used malcolm, the same way the southern black christian pastors, who were also cult leaders, used mlk jr as a front man for their activities. as stokely carmichael said, can you imagine a black baptist preacher not accepting a cadillac. 100% true and I must add We black people in the usa and arguably all blacks in all humanity owe the whole movement of Black empowerment from the era of enslavement plus the era of jim crow , a debt of gratitude. And I hope we can learn from MLK jr teachings as well as Malcolms and many others. MAlcolm for me teaches a valuable lesson about early efficiency, don't let your idol ruin your plan. For me, MAlcolm had the best leadership skills among all black leaders in the usa when he lived, but he had one flaw he never recovered from, he allowed his idolization for an older black leader, in his case elijah muhammed , to cloud or manipulate his larger planning. That was a mistake. MLK jr for me teaches a valuable lesson in handling handlers, two questions AkaContrarian with a setup and amendment, and @ProfD + @Pioneer1 I ponder your thoughts to the three elements as well. Here is the setup when Sean Bell's father was asked in media what he felt, after his son was murdered by law enforcement in the new york city through forty one bullet shots, sean bell's father said he wanted the law enforcers dead. And al sharpton, the white media, the lawyers for the bell family, didn't have him around for anything afterward... It is clear the form of passive resisitance many blacks in the usa adhere to seems a complete form, that doesn't accept violence in weapons or closed fists but also in discourse. my questions, 1) has that interpretation of passive resistance broken up many black clans/homes? 2) do black people who adhere to passive resisitance criminalize plus illegalize [both not just one, meaning make a return of violence criminal while also have an unwritten black legal code that illegalizes black people who don't adhere by excommunication in various ways] actions by black people or black people themselves who don't adhere? in amendment, I think of two things. 1. amiri baraka who said the bussers were crazy getting ice cream and assaulted while doing nothing. 2. a black woman in texas, a matriarch, who told two nephews to leave texas after whites had assaulted their home and they wanted to act violently in return. I realize now, the language I need to have. And thank you three Contrarian/pioneer/profd for getting me to this place. When contrarian you said passive resistance, it made me realize to what extremes you refer to. The words/phrase resistance or nonviolence or passive or militant or violent keep getting used. But the issue here is the faith in the rule of law. Not the "rule of law" but " faith in the rule of law" as opposed to "function based on the life of black people" I see the lines from crispus attics, the black people who embraced whites like george washington before during or after 1776 in the enslavement era + Frederick Douglass, the black people who fought for the union or confederacy +MLK jr, the black people who nonviolently in all ways fought for black empowerment in the later years of jim crow era, Barrack Obama, the black people in the age of the rainbow, a set of black people have a "faith in the rule of law" such that even if the law is designed against black people, even if the law allows non blacks to terrorize black people, even if the law can't protect blacks from being terrorized by non blacks, each of said groups actions show a faith that the legal system, the law, in its processes and eventual result is satisfactory, even if the law fails during their lifetime to change for the better. They are willing to die in the courtroom, even as tulsa burns and black pregnant women are being hung. In parallel, from the black loyalists, black people who committed to vendetta against the whites of the colonies, white people of england didn't enslave blacks in the colonies, it was white colonist and colonialist before during or after 1776 in the enslavement era+ Nat Turner or Exodusters, the black people who retaliated when the law failed , wanted self defense, not isolation+ Malcolm who never felt black people should allow or invite harm from others which faith demands, when the law didn't protect black people from white terror in the jim crow era, to Assata Shakur and the many blacks later who have left the usa in the age of the rainbow, a set of black people have a "function based on the life of black people" such that the historical facts of the law working against black people, law allowing non blacks to terrorize black people, law not protecting blacks from being terrorized by blacks, prove to said folks a need/demand/function to act outside the law which can not be denied for a truly free black peoples whether they have white neighbors or not, even if they know they are disadvantaged, maybe inevitably, or if nonlegal actions fail during their lifetime for the better. They are willing to die outside the courttoom, even if non black power or black allegiances to the courtrom give advantages. I ponder if a bridge can be made between faith or function?

Right. Every now and then, somebody comes along who wants to change the rules of the game to suit themselves.

If we lived in a perfect world, none if these bumps in the road would hamper one's life's journey. Folks need to be reminded on a regular basis that "nobody promised you a rose garden". At some point little girls and boys have to mature into adults who deal with reality. Life is not fair.

Coco is a young adult having fun in her profession and taking it to the bank. I do not believe she's self-hating or insecure in her own beauty. She's living her best life.

@richardmurrayyou disagreed with my calling Malcom X "militant" and asked what I consider "militant". Malcom was famous for the response he'd give when questioned about how he'd combat white aggression. "By any means necessary," was his adament response. And the Black Muslim quasi-military Fruit of Islam group presented the impression of being his back-up. This is a militant stance that didn't align with King's passive resistance philosophy which is why I and a lot of others considered Malcom militant. He talked tough. And I disagree with your implication that Malcom was in agreement with MLK on integration. He wasn't entirely opposed to white assistance but he was iinitially a black separatist advocate until he broke ranks with Elijah Muhammad later on. And it should also be noted that during the MLK and Malcom era, TV talk shows were all the rage. These 2 black spokesmen were popular guest panalists on these airings and what came out of their mouths during these discussions was what defined them. They made their positions clear on live TV and were very articulate in doing so. The media contributed greatly to their influence and enabled them to get their messages across even if what they said was sometimes misinterpreted. MLK often defended the protests and boycotts and demonstrations he organized by explaining that activists had to dramatize their grievances to call attention to them. In the struggle for civil rights, the movement was played out on the world stage. Martin and Malcom were super stars personifying 2 different approaches to the black quest for equality. What went on behind the scenes is not entirely known. But their influence lives on and black Americans owe them a debt of gratitude.

@Pioneer1behave yourself

Really.......... Was this during your "salad making days"???

Coco Gauff jokes about her new look: 'There's another redhead who's killing it here' Coco Gauff Leaves Nothing to Chance: Even Her Hair Color Nods to Success Since the start of the season, Coco Gauff has changed her look by opting for a new hairstyle and a reddish tint. A detail that sparked a rather surprising question in a press conference, when a journalist asked her what it felt like to "join the group" of redheaded players, alluding to Jannik Sinner. "There's another redhead who's doing very well here" The world No. 3, always ready to respond with a touch of humor and sincerity, hopes this new tint will bring her success: "I thought it might help, considering there's another redhead who's doing very well. Maybe it'll bring me luck, because he has a very good record here, unlike me. We'll see." Coco Gauff jokes about her new look: 'There's another redhead who's killing it here' Now our sista is putting red dye in her hair and trying to impress "somebody" and claiming she hope it brings her more luck. Man, man, man................. She didn't think she was beautiful enough as she was?

Even if you're just playing games, there are certain rules to them...lol.

@ProfD I am not proselytizing. But I do comprehend in greater ways how powerful the media narrative developed by white media and the black church is when it comes to MLK jr. It has grown since his murder and been used to give him a holier than status.

Again, this thread is about Dr. MLK Jr., thus the focus on him. You're entitled to your opinion. That's not going to change how many FBA/AfroAmericans respect, appreciate and admire Dr. MLK Jr.

@Pioneer1 globally recognized? not everyone views Mensa like that? humanity is quite large you know. disability does not make one dumb and to education... i argue education is rarely designed functionally, anywhere in humanity. so you believe in smarter and neutral, not smarter or dumber... ok simple things but powerful things two big oceans border the country, neighbors who have always been impotent or at least not able to strike hard, and only two by land. a financial history, including the white european colonial, where inequal or uneven financial system allowed for the production of weapons at larger quantities than most, not quality , but quantity. For me, nazi germany or soviet russia built better weapons by a mile than the usa, but no one produces more than our friendly neighborhood white slaver. a media machine, originally designed to unite whites who had competing heritages historically, that many outcast of groups/communities/collectivies celebrate as a way to be their individual self in spite of a said group. this yielded and yields traitors throughout all humanity including white populaces, and sometimes only for information, not murder or similar. but useful. No weapon the usa has is exclusive to the usa, but usa has more of them. But none of the usa military rivals had enslavement like the usa. russia was an empire and cossacks and checyens were abused but they weren't enslaved like blacks to whites in the usa. The soviet union has a pro european bias in its populace, a heritage from the czars, but russia has been battling all of its life it has never been far from a rival. China has never been far from a rival, and its neighbors have at times been far more powerful. so the usa has fortune on its side, most empires do. IT isn't smarts or intelligence. hmmm, the heritage of the usa is private care, ala fiscal capitalism, if you can pay for a doctor you have one. public hospitals heritage in the usa is from pro bono work, not for profit. but I still don't see why bankruptcy denies the good or service being present. bankruptcy forces the ownership or provider of good or service to change, which is appropriate since the prior owner went bankrupt. ...What your saying is some goods or services can't risk even 24 hours of not existing. no, nyc has been underserved by hospitals for its entire history all ideas work, from monarchy to anarchy, it is only a matter of implementation. And yes, those in the future have the right as imaginative beings to see a way of implementing not seen before. universal income will not delete currency, if I said I feel it will , I apologize, that wasn't my intent.

@Pioneer1 nice try, you changed the course organizations and contest liek this do, the people you referred to are media people, none of them run pageants or anything similar race is any factor, phenotypical is just one even enough but fredi washington didn't, and more importantly, to the idea of beauty , we black dosers have to embrace our reality. We are a people who were once completely enslaved, that comes with a history of sexual abuse that leads to mixed babies, and the heritage of DOSers in the usa is for the mixed to be part of the black group. That is the heritage. rightly or wrongly. Now to the future, it seems the latin american pardo/casta heritage is settling in the usa, and will finally be the factor to undo what the one drop rule set in. but until then, the yella woman is black. what determines a black american isn't universallly defined by blacks. the issue pioneer is you keep missing the lack of consensus, means every black in the usa doesn't see anything in one way. natives? you mean choctaw or seminole? since chinese food in the usa is not actually chinese cusiine from asia, and has more in common with tacos why not? yeah but that happens in the usa, because this country is the king f lawsuits which kill events. and that is because the usa protects individualism and individualism by default means no one's definition is ever correct. a trasngender woman can sue to be in a contest for humans born with a vagina. You say short sighted, but I argue, an inevitable reality of the usa. you see this in the white populace, it is a pan statian reality I disagree 100% , again miss black america or miss black usa prove you wrong. In media things that black people/dosers actually own or control in the usa I find the advertised image of black women is usually not upheld through the lens of the yella women but through the cocoa women. but both are still black. And as for all the black or non blacks in white owned media who emphasize the yella women over the cocoa women in the black populace, well, that is white owned media. even enough, though I rather posit I am being too demanding to the tone or function of discourse. @aka Contrarian miss america is run by whites... miss black america + miss black usa are run by blacks and i don't think any of their winners or contestants are offensive. I know I am not alone in said thinking. unfortunately the media of the usa has become such a marketplace + battleground+ tool that it has grown in influence. And some little girls are orphans, some little girls are abused by their blood kin, some little girls don't find enough of themselves in those at home. the reason a little girl can find inspiration worth emulating are many. Ideally a little girl should be raised by her parents or the greater village to be herself, and figure out her role, not model off of anyone. Interesting, I never wanted to impress anybody as a child.I only had one poster of a human figure on my wall.

@ProfD your correct, but he wasn't the leader, but a leader, and the spokesman role was given to him by others. exactly, but you presented a level of idolization to MLK jr that warrants anyone to state a less idolized opinion, which I did. I quote you, I I also mentioned other leaders, it is interesting that you focus on the mentioning of mlk jr when i mentioned leaders before or after him with the same failures, and said leaders before mlk jr were needed for the black collegiate movement/naacp /garveyites and et cetera which was mandatory in the early anti jim crow era for the later laws to come into being. again, that is media, not truth. The movement by Black people made the impact, white owned media + the black church created the myth of mlkjr as THE leader when he wasn't, he was a leader, among many, but he was the only leader that fit everything white media or the black church needed. And as in all the schools named after george washington who was a leader not THE leader of the colonies freeing from the english empire. so mlk jr is beyond questioning ? i question all peoples. I don't have an idolization of anyone in that way, though i wonder how many black people similarly idolize bond. And, I never minimize the impact of the movement of Black people. It is interesting you focus so much on mlkjr. hiding behind the theme of this post your own idoltry. which I oppose. @Pioneer1 no human being is, because we are human being. But the problem is that, some people unfortunately, think negative judgement lessens the value of another, or questioning another lessers said anothers role. It is very jesus /pope/schrumpft like, that thinking. well, remember, black people when the usa was started still were able to get along, not all black people were enslaved. I am not suggesting, that anyone black should assume a peaceful life aside whites in the usa, but I Can see a black person coming to the conclusion that a peaceful coexistence can be a goal. Nothing is easy, but I can comprehend it. Would I have chosen it? no, but neither did nat turner, or assata shakur... so, I don't mind some black leaders having that path. right but this is why the congress is the only branch of government that can make law. the congress is born from the states. it isn't executive. even though schrumpft is part of a change started since abraham lincoln hmmm I get your demographic position. but since the black populace was minoirty to the white, even before the 1900s immigrant waves, wasn't the heritage or culture of DOSers always in need of attention. Maybe not danger, but I don't think the black church built up what needed to be carried/heritage, or tended what needed to be grown/culture. It is interesting that sinners comes out one year before the usa's 250 year anniversary, one of the messages in the movie is the black churches hindrance. The blues players father, is a hater. a knocker. he doesn't want to help, he wants to knock. We all know how many black churches criminalized black people who didn't sing gods music, before 1940, as well as after. Your right, their wasn't competition among minoirty quantities in the populace BUT why did the black church not try to bridge booker t and wed dubois/garvey and dubois/ garvey and booker t? why did the black church treat blues and jazz musicians so negatively? why did the black church treat hustlers so negatively? the my way highway vibe of black churches before the immigrant waves came, i argue was very detrimental to the larger populace later. yes, cheap hindsight but it is clear. And i argue with their role, no excuse existed, no excuse. your wrong about china. China has an engaged bureaucracy. People vote, I argue china has more involvement of its people in its government than the usa does or a western european country does, not just in raws numbers but in percentage. Remember the current chinese government is a creature of the 19000s, and one born from being enslaved to the usa/japan/western union. Thsoe three groups taught china to dislike the media dysfunction of government. countries that have big songs and big flags that hide the ugliest realities. the usa calls itself the land of freedom, while in truth has only destroyed many peoples. the usa is a white european country trying to sell itself as it isn't. China is proud to be a chinese country, who at least is more honest to the immigrant than the usa by a mile. I know your a statian, Pioneer, you have a pride about the usa from the black history that supported it. And china as a white asian country, is an enemy of the usa, although why wouldn't china be when the usa at one time owned a piece of china. North korea is a monarchy. It isn't like china. And, because I don't find any government system sinful I will say, North Korea's has two problem. 1st is the usa, who has put north korea, like iran , like cuba, under a severe strain on all fronts. The historically funny thing is iran + cuba+ north korea have one thing in common, they each insulted the usa, neither actually ever committed a crime to the usa while the usa committed crimes to them. the usa invaded cuba using cuban traitors and failed, the usa's murdering europhile puppet in iran failed, and the usa invaded korea when north korea had the whole peninsula but north korea survived. After 9/11 the usa talked about being invaded and axis of evil, and lied about afghanistan or iraq, but, based on the reaction the usa had to 9/11, cuba+iran+north korea have the right to bomb the usa. 2nd, the kim jong clan have to embrace a simple truth, the usa took their fate, absent usa involvement all of korea is led by the kim jong clan, but the usa as a country of power meddled. tehe kim jong clan have to find a way to end the demilitarize zone. I know no koreans made the zone but that is the challenge. we all know the truth, the panthers/naacp/baptist preachers/drug dealers, the fbi and cia had agents everywhere. in all organizations including white ones. I have always asked that the old files be made public. I think all of humanity could use every single agent of the 1900s whether dead or alive exposed. cause I think that would explain a lot but.... @aka Contrarian I said my forebears saw black people laughing at Malcolm, not that my forebears laughed. But yes, many people in harlem laughed at malcolm in the street. And your surprise shows the strength of media. media has created a myth of malcolm + mlk jr that is false. Two great leaders, more alike than different. each wanting integration or peace. Both eloquent speakers. their only true difference as leaders was mlk jr , from the christian baptist heritage, speaks through hope, while malcolm learned from his father, not elijah muhammed but his father, to speak through truth. white people in the usa historically hate any black person who speaks through truth far more than any other black person. the native american is irrelevant, the white american is a true sinner, black dosers are cowards, immigrant americans are foolish traitors. IT doesn't mean each has to be that way forever, or is that way in every single individual, but it is the majority truth. how do you define militancy? cause I have never seen malcolm as militant? I think he was a garveyite like his father, I think he did believe in self defense which his father+ mother needed, but so did mlk jr? is exhibiting self defense a sign of militancy? or is not saying things to make others comfortable , militancy? when I think black militancy, I think of nat turner/jean jacques dessalines/the black loyalists/the quilombos in south america/ann zhinga against the portuguese. I don't think of malcolm or the panthers.

There's usually a lawyer who puts the batteries in the plaintiff's back. They wanna get paid from someone else's pain & suffering. Right. Money cannot buy true happiness or perfect health. It just makes people more comfortable and less miserable in their station. Money will not. Time will. As that young person lives life, the loss of their closest loved one will become manageable. Foe example, none of Michael Jackson's adopted, er, offspring appears to be broken up or mal-adjusted Maybe so. I believe technology and video games has desensitized younger folks. Nope. After 40 or 50 years, dear mama is a distant memory. That's the most unfortunate situation when offspring can't get right. I think some parents are relieved to check out and leave those n8gglets behind...FOR GOOD.

Policies & laws do not apply to dominant society in the same way they're applied to non-white folks. When white folks ignore policies & break laws their punishment is usually different.

That's what the said after selling wolf tickets. Nah. Since 1979, that dude and his followers have been standing 10 toes down in their hatred of the US & Israel.

I think I'm the only one in this discussion who was alive or at least an adult during the King/Civil rights era during the 1950-60s. And, as I've mentioned many times before, how these times impacted on black people differed from place-to-place. A lot of what I absorbed about these times was from what I saw on TV because in the little western suburb of Chicago where I lived, no overt racial turmoil existed nor were any Jim Crow laws on the books in Illinois. Blacks and whites just went their separate ways, self segregating themselves, observing unwritten laws that perpetuated the status quo of subtle racism. This was a fairly typical atmosphere in that region. I always attended integrated schools, always had a few white friends and neighbors, never had a black teacher, and my Freshman year at the University of Illinois was when this schools' dormitories were first integrated. I've spoken often about how in my Sophomore year there when I moved into one of these dormitories, while black college students in the South were "sittin in" and being arrested at segregated lunch centers, I and my black dormmates were having our rooms cleaned by white maids, and served meals in the dining rooms by white waitresses and waiters who spoke with the accents native to the down state region of Illinois. I've mentioned how I always worked side-by-side with Whites in the Civil Service Federal work force where you were eligible for employment by simply passing a test open to everyone. This is what qualified me to work for both the Veterans Administration and the Social Security Administration before ending up at the U.S. Post Office after passing the postal exam. All during those times. I never got the impression that MLK embodied a tightly-organized, long standing strategy. This was more the domain of A. Phillip Randolph, the head of the Pullman Porters Union, and the leader who actually organized the1963 March on Washington for jobs and opportunities. King was moreorless romanticized as a young minister who was on the fringes of the NAACP bus boycott that Rosa Parks initiated. He was cast as an unknown who was propelled forward to a leadership role because he was so eloquent and intelligent and, subsequently, like Jesus, he surrounded himself with a band of Disciples that included dynamic young turks like Ralph Albernathy, Andrew Young, Julien Bond, John Lewis, and Jesse Jackson, who with the non-violent model of Mahatma Gandhi as their model, marched forth to pursue the integration dream of justice and equality for all! Meanwhile, King's militant counterpart, Malcom X was telling it like it was, ironically doing what Trump did; which was publicly saying all the things about white folks that black folks had always been thinking. I was surprised by Richard's statement that his people laughed at Malcom. Everybody I knew agreed with and admired him. Which just goes to show how history can be in the eye of the beholder and how varied the black experience can be. As for King's personal life, much of what was made public was taken from the FBI files of J. Edgar Hoover who kept MLK under close surveillance. Also, after King's death, in his memoir, Ralph Abernathy inspired a lot of resentment for revealing some things about King's intimate liaisons. "Keepers of the Flame" never forgave Ralph for this. Whatever. King has earned and secured a place of honor and affection in the hearts of his people. RIP MLK.

Seems to me, the closest thing to a typical black Miss America candidate who would not offend anyone would be a poised female of smooth medium brown complexion with a full well- coiffed head of dark hair whose facial features are arranged in compliance with the universal golden triangle symmetry, and whose body is well-proportioned. Actually, however, I think role models are overrated. Why do little girls have to look to public figures to emulate. And do we know if this is as widespread a sentiment as celebrities clutching awards would have us believe? Ideally, a girl's mother or other female relative should be her role model. And I'm further inclined to think that her peer group is who most young girls want to impress because that was the case with me and my friends. I never fixated on celebrities as somebody I passionately wanted to look like. My friends and I just wanted to be the best versions of ourselves. So says the cynical contrarian

richardmurray It is simple, smart or dumb can't be applied to groups of people. You accept the idea that a group can be labeled smart or dumb. I do not. What about MENSA, the globally recognized group for people with extremely high IQ's? What about certain special education classes for those with intellectual disabilities? These are GROUPS where people are popularly recognized as smart or dumb (dumb being a derogatory term for low intelligence), respectively. If you want to focus strictly on nations...we can do that....but you said "groups". Individually , humans can be ignorant, lacking knowledge, lacking erudition, the ability to derive knowledge, lacking wisdom, intrinsic perceptions of life that can only be gained through experience or an individuals natural ability. Groups simply succeed or fail in objectives. When I speak of "dumb"....I'm not necessarily speaking of ignorance. Although most dumb people tend to BE ignorant. When I say dumb....I'm speaking of those with low intelligence. Intelligence below average. But to be clear....YOU introduced the term "dumb" into the conversation when discussing nations. I don't believe there are any dumb nations. I believe some nations are SMARTER than others....collectively...but none of them are dumb because they are the average of the entire population. And the average population isn't dumb in any nation. The usa military is what gives the usa the edge and the usa military is ahead of all other militaries when it comes to weapons and weapons systems or security systems. Why is this? Why is the U.S.A. military so powerful and effective? The question is this, why are you sure/certain that if the firms I said go bankrupt when warranted and have all their assets placed into market or made open source as need be would lead to the inability of the services from their assets or technology to maintain an interaction with the populace of the usa absent a large delay? Are you suggesting the federal government and state governments would take too long for bankruptcy? or botch bankruptcies in some way? I'm not sure HOW to answer these questions....lol. They seem a little too complex. Are you suggesting private hospitals shouldn't exist? No. They should. However public hospitals in my opinion should predominate. I find it interesting that many black people like yourself talk about black people being financially efficient in their activity as owners or consumers while talking about white people, who own all the companies i mentioned, failing to be financial efficient as owners or consumers and yet having no penalty. So you suggesting a financial double standard of bad financial actors based on phenotype? you have to say yes. Sometimes the GOOD or SERVICE being offered is so necessary that who the company is ran or the fiscal responsibility of it's owners is of much less importance and making sure the company stays afloat is. In the last five years, in NYC, I can recall at least five hospital completely closed. No government takeover, completely closed. The city didn't fall under. PEople complained but it was completely warranted. Probably because there were so many more hospitals to cover their loss. You are a fiscal capitalist, Actually, I prefer a mixed economy of balanced Capitalism and Socialism. yes complete classlessness is impossible among humans who give themselves names. BUT, the governments that call themselves socialists have never actually tried. Do you comprehend the point. the point isn't about reaching socialism, it is about the claim of socialist countries failure. The countries you mentioned aren't socialist. they are fiscal capitalist. Again, communism is no way near socialism. communalism is really fiscal capitalsim with the faintest touch of socialism. So how do you know Socialism works for a nation if you can't point to a nation that is successfully practicing it? I think a solution exists that I have never seen tried, so it can't be proven. But, I don't think so. You're this theory a "solution" but we haven't determined that having currency is actually a PROBLEM! I personally feel that it IS a solution in and of itself in many cases to a rather limited bartering and trading system in a society as complex as ours.

I have accumulated a bunch of them over many decades.