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I truly enjoy chopping it up here with the AALBC crew. Y'all crack me up. Da Bears are playing at home. They will beat the Browns. Just a matter of my lil homie and Bears QB Caleb Williams minimizing mistakes. Da Bears defense has to keep Prime aka Hall of Famer Deion Sanders son Browns QB Shedeur Sanders in check.

ProfD While you're correct in your assessment of his choices AND I have to keep saying that he indeed made some bad and foolish choices, my point is: He wasn't free. We DON'T live in a free society. So he wasn't allowed to exercise or express his sexuality, even with those who voluntarily wanted to with him.

Sounds like you got an INVERTED thermometer system, to me. The lower the temperature....the higher it reads...lol.

They certainly all rate higher than YOU on the "cool" list.

Every *job* comes with rules, regulations and restrictions. Employees have to follow the rules. Show up late to work and there's probably a penalty. Moore was always free to quit his job if that particular snow bunny snatch box was worth more than millions of dollars. Moore could have used his money to buy it from snow bunnies outside his job.

As I mentioned in the other thread, we should not condone stupidity and irresponsibility. White folks make the rules. Of course they'll get away with breaking them. We don't have enough power to make the rules. It's hard to defend oneself when you're in the wrong. Ask Diddy and R. Kelly. Moore had a positon of power as a head coach of a major college football team. That's it. Nothing else. Just goes to show he was not intelligent or powerful. Black folks have always clowned each other for doing dumb sh8t especially when getting caught. Sherrone Moore f8cked up millions of dollars over some snow bunny snatch box. Clowning Moore's poor decision-making off the gridiron isn't about carrying favor with and/or pleasing racists or women. Black men give each other the bizness under certain circumstances. F8cking up a lot of money over women and simping are two such categories that will get a n8gglet clowned. Black folks aren't siding with the racists against the Somalis and other scammers. They're being clowned for 1) believing they were exceptional and 2) denying their Blackness. Again, play stupid games and win stupid prizes to include getting clowned. It's like Showtime at the Apollo. Clowning Moore doesn't help the enemy. His intelligence may be questionable.

@Pioneer1The only valid point you make is how "silly" you sound as you continue to use racism to sanitize stupidity. As a slavishly devoted disciple of Neely Fuller, your ongoing silly rationales about black men are an embarrassment to his name. @ProfDyou're like a breath of fresh air when you respond to the dense cloudiness of pioneer's thinking. Troy should be grateful for the voice of calm and reason you have come to represent on this forum. I might add that I have no big problem when you put me "in check". Hope the BEARS can cope with the weather and beat the BROWNS.

Then he wasn't free. His behavior was restricted/limited.

What about Harry Brown, umbrarchist, and richardmurray? They ain't cool enough for you?

@Pioneer1The only apparent thing about your statement is your incorrigible compulsion to lie and distort. Nothing you claimed is true. Not to mention how far behind the times you are when it comes to Face Book/ Meta regulations. It becomes more and more apparent that lying plays a big role in your debating repetoir. Everything about you is phony and shady.

@Pioneer1How stupid can YOU get? I used the pronoun "you" because I'm directly addressing YOU, while fanning away the brain farts you try to pass off as valid ideas. Like now, in desperation, YOU continue to grasp at straws, unable to stop dreaming that I - care for you. ugh. Soooo, let me make myself perfectly clear, once and for all. I do not like YOU. To know you, is to despise you, which I do. Deflating and disagreeing with all the puke you are so full of, gratifies me, while totally confirming your personality disorders. I'm sure you will reject all this and continue to harbor the idea that, - with cool guys like Troy and ProfD and Delano and Frankster around, this old lady would dote on a dufus clown like YOU. Puleeze. And you will, as usual, seize upon the idea that for someone who doesn't like YOU. I certainly spend a lot of time trying to prove otherwise. blah, blah, blah. (Nope. That's not the case. So shelve that belief.) You epitomize everything that I find obnoxious and it takes a lot of effort for this to penetrate your dense ego. OK, now one more time for the folks he is so eager to impress: I dislike Pioneer. I consider him a repulsive, attention-seeking, LYING, jive-assed nigga. I detest him, and couldn't care less if the feeling is mutual.

Moore didn't commit any crimes. He broke the rules of his contracts both marriage and job. We don't make the rules of the game. Nah bro...that n8gglet is grown azz man. He knew the consequences of his actions. We shouldn't rally around stupidity. Racism plays a small part in Moore's situation but his actions brought it on himself. I doubt we would celebrate n8gglets stealing brand new cars off the lot and joyriding while smoking their fake azz weed. Nobody deserves to be raped. However, I do question those who put themselves in situations that make it likely to happen. Adults making decisions and taking chances while knowing the consequences don't deserve empathy or sympathy when that sh8t goes sideways.

Troy How many guys are we talking about Pioneer, five, a dozen? To break it down..... The Black men I know and have known who got into relationships with foreign women and lived happier lives....based on what they've said AND what I've seen...are DOZENS. The Black men who actually took on the responsibility of raising children who are not even theirs along with these foreign women...are LESS than a dozen. The problem with your reasoning here is that this is just your personal experience, anecdotes. It’s not data. It's not a problem UNLESS we're doing scientific research. If we're just talking and having a discussion about an issue, why shouldn't personal experiences and anecdotes NOT count? I know you have very little way of verifying the truth of it one way or the other, however YOU are a Black man who've known other Black men. Are you saying you don't know of ANY Black men who's personal experiences align with the ones I've just related? ProfD Enjoy those African women as long as any cultural differences do not present hurdles. Many of those cultural differences are part of the fun. To be real... I'm not in relationships with most of these women. Infact, for many of them were are just acquaintances. But I enjoy their company regardless of the level of contact I experience with them. And truth be told, MOST Black American men love interacting with African women when they actually do. I see this happen on a routine basis. They'll talk shit all day long about them but as soon as a woman from Angola or Ethiopia smile at them and ask them for something...the nigga starts glowing and cheesing and the next thing I know he's following her around or somewhere leaning on a box with his leg propped up talking shit to her grinning...lol. Many African women use a ton of make-up and foundation to lighten themselves to appear less dark and look more European. This is true. And it often looks disgusting on them because of the discolorations caused by it. Many of them have dark rings around their eyes and mouths or discolored necks because of this. But it's not too much worse than AfroAmerican women who may not use skin bleaching anymore but not only straighten their hair but BLONDE is the new fashion among so many of our sistaz today. I saw a picture of Puffy's mother and she has her hair (or somebody's hair...lol) blonde and long almost all the way to the ground.

Supposedly, we have freewill when it comes to what we think, eat, drink and do. Sherrone Moore broke the rules of his contract in having a relationship with a staffer. Moore was free to get down with anybody else. No different from military rules regarding fraternization.

Right. I don't use those platforms either but I've heard they have rules and policies for usage. Makes sense that violations get punished. I still think don't social media platforms require people to do anything other than follow the rules of usage. No tithes, prayers, rituals or celebrations.

Troy Sorry, I thought that was obvious no, of course not. Lol...I thought my not being religious was just as obvious. Especially since I constantly say it. A ”little something?” Dude you said you read the book multiple times and parts of it in various languages that’s more than a little something. My reading the entire Bible came from a time when I actually WAS religious and wanted to determine for myself was it the actual "Word of God" as so many claim. When I read it now, I read it for historical and reference purposes. When I read the Bible in it's orignal Hebrew I get more accurate names for certain lands and peoples than from the translated versions like King James.

I don't participate on it but I've heard of "facebook jail" and other forms of discipline that social media platforms like facebook/meta and twitter/x dish out to those who break their policies. They even go as far as to permanently ban (ex-communicate) some people if the rules they violated were severe enough.

Is it really freedom when you are being poisoned chemically as well as indoctrinated to think and behave a certain way? Let's use the recent case of Sherrone Moore for example.... Was he free to have sex with whoever he wanted to? Or was he PUNISHED when it was discovered who he was having sex with?

Black men SHOULD have rallied around Sherrone Moore instead of lambasting him all over social media. Yes, he's responsible for his actions. No, if he actually committed the crimes he was accused of he shouldn't have done them. I'm not saying he made the best decisions. Some of them WERE foolish in my opinion. However a White man who did...and likely ARE doing...the same things wouldn't have gotten fired in the first place. Also, if a White man had committed those crimes....his image wouldn't have been smeared all over the media as an example for the world to see. However in this world, one of the BIGGEST crimes is powerlessness. Not being able to defend yourself physically or in the media against your enemies. Because no matter how much you're victimized....those who are smarter and more powerful will find a way to make YOU look like the "bad guy" and make themselves look like the "good guys". He did what many if not most heterosexual men do when they are in positions of power....USED it. Men have sex with women. That's what we do. Hate to break the hard news to some of you who may have thought otherwise, but that's the truth! Well.... What about him being married and cheating on his wife? What about him chasing White women around? What about inappropriate relationships with co-workers? Except for the last one....I wouldn't have engaged in either of those actions, personally. But just because I wouldn't do something personally or even think it's wrong, that doesn't mean I'm going to side with the enemy to take down or lambast an intelligent and successful brother who used his power and position to get pussy. That's what men have been doing for THOUSANDS if not MILLIONS of years. White men do it. Asian men do it. Arab men do it. Black men aren't and shouldn't be an exception. Since we KNOW this about our selves, why do so many of us side with White men or women of any race against our own? You're NOT going to please them by bashing another Black man for getting coochie. Do you think by trashing another Black man and calling him juvenile or undisciplined and pointing at him laughing and saying he got what he deserved is going to make White racists like you better? Do you think women will respect us more for doing that to another man? Oh, they may clap and cheer for you, because you're siding with THEM against another Black man. .....but will LOSE respect for you because it looks like you have no comradery or respect for your own demographic. I say the same thing about this situation as I do about the Somalis and how they're going after them. If we're going to stay out of it...then we need to stay out of it. But atleast don't HELP the damn enemy go after other Black folks. Even if they aren't going to defend him, at the very least Black men in the media and social media should atleast just keep their mouths shut on the situation and talk about something else. No need to help the enemy (racists) target and go after a successful intelligent Black man who made an unwise decision.

I think we may be overlooking the bigger picture..... Yes he's responsible for HIS actions. And if he actually did what he was accused of doing.....NO he shouldn't have committed those crimes. However the bigger picture is he was another Black man who is being used as an example by a racist system. The bigger picture...and bigger crime...is not being powerful enough to prevent what happened to him in the first place This is probably going to sound silly, but Black men SHOULD have rallied around him instead of lambasting him all over social media as they are doing. If you KNOW a person is a victim of racism, even if they had a hand in their victimization....you don't pile on and side with the enemy against them. It's like blaming a rape victim for the clothes she was wearing or the lifestyle she was living.

Right. No shortage of examples. N8gglets posting up with snow bunnies and losing it all. Unfortunately, Sherrone Moore won't be the last n8gglet to lose millions of dollars based on his owns actions .

The USA allows freedom of choice and expression that does not exist in other countries.

It could be used in such a way. So far, social media doesn't have a doctrine that requires people to follow instructions and take actions and live a certain way.

Understood. Enjoy those African women as long as any cultural differences do not present hurdles. Many African women use a ton of make-up and foundation to lighten themselves to appear less dark and look more European. Too many Black folks have been conditioned to h8te themselves. That's a real problem.

How many guys are we talking about Pioneer, five, a dozen? The problem with your reasoning here is that this is just your personal experience, anecdotes. It’s not data. You’ve heard the story about the blind people feeling different parts of the elephant and coming away with a completely different understanding of what the animal is? Your personal experience is analogous to this so you touching the elephants tusk and thinking the whole elephant is smooth and hard, get it?