Sinners review from Nike Marshall + Zenobia Marshall of Movies That Move We

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MY THOUGHTS AS I LISTENED

Love the shirt from Zenobia. 00:02:00 From Duck till dawn ahhhh, similar but the storytelling is vastly different. Coogler made characters in Sinners that are better balanced. American Gothic, ok, specificall Black American Gothic ah EVe's Bayou is considered a Black American Gothic 00:04:13 It has stocked Nike's secrets and symbology infatuation with films 00:05:50 good point Nike, Coogler made the correct religious association in the black populace at the time 00:07:10 yeah the guy who played preacher boys father did well as the fanatic black pastor I think many thought on what determines a sinner , who is a sinner, and when are a sinner redeemed. [ https://aalbc.com/tc/events/event/369-granting-to-evil-circa-the-film-sinners-from-coogler/ ] 00:09:44 interesting from Zenobia, each character in sinners is a sinner. I think this film shows how much larger the religious zeal/energy is in the black or pan human populace. I concur, many of the characters embrace their lives. They don't dwell, and Delta slim was the oldest so his age makes reflection easier. 00:14:52 hmmm interesting point from Nike, the way in which Coogler framed the reality , didn't hit any audience member with it upside the head but it was not ignored. It is a subtely, a craft, to represent important history from your community without turning your fiction into a historical documentary. 00:16:58 Younger black audiences, seem to really not like to see the pain. Not trying to be ignorant but not consumed. 00:18:41 Nike, psalms 1:07 let the redeemed of the lord say so. The first black person I heard or read quote scripture of the Christian bible. 00:19:26 I concur to Zenobia, this is a collection of individuals brought together through a collective project, a juke joint. 00:21:30 Nike, true, the external communal freedom is desired but the individual freedom was reached by Sammie. yes, Fun is powerful 00:22:46 Everybody loves Annie. yes, how come the ancient black religions didn't come through to save her baby? how come the religion of his uncle didn't save her baby? Yes, people who lose children have a sadness that can be very deep. 00:25:26 Yes, I am happy Delroy Lindo said that. People forget the old black south lifestyle was in the 1900s alive and common and vibrant. I think black people in the 1900s did a disservice raising black kids by making our old black south too distant or disconnected. But as Dash said in Daughters of the Dust , black families who went north intentionally wanted to forget the black southern heritage wholesale, not just the negative but the positive. 00:27:25 of course, Nike forgets pearline's name for a minute:) black men's character. 00:28:57 Zenobia remembers the scene of smoke + any and the incense is burning 00:31:50 I concur, color symbology is heavy in Sinners. 00:33:59 I didn't know Smoke and his brothe'rs last name was Moore. Cool. 00:34:51 Yes, The irish were catholic and also catholic. The English was the overseers to the irish. Right, the dumping ground use of the English colonies by England. 00:37:02 I think one point with sinners is not shying away from the heritage of interacial activity in the usa, not merely the negative but the neutral. I say not positive, but neutral. Many films of the past go into a simplicity, of all peoples in the usa walled against each other but that was never the truth, even in the plantation, especially in the plantation. 00:37:14 Ruth D carter is having a great era as a costumer. 00:38:07 your funny, people couldn't say, they are wearing red white and blue. 00:39:37 well done Nike, colors to ward off spirits. I didn't know. 00:40:35 I concur to Nike, the best black fantasy films from Posse to Sinners accept the presence of whites or white power but the story isn't about whites or white power, but blacks and black empowerment. 00:40:40 Zenobia is the first I heard to call it a tear jerker. hmmm . That is a testament to Coogler's storytelling. 00:41:36 hmm Zenobia maybe answers Nike's question, and sacrifice is maybe the way sinners can be redeemed. 00:42:25 Zenobia is in a bible study group. 00:43:56 Very leech like, Remmick as a vampire is very leech like. 00:44:51 Questions from Nike, Is Sinners one of Ryan Coogler's most personal films? How is his storytelling from Fruitville Station to Sinners changed? What lingers? 00:47:51 aww Zenobia, you softie, the end had you crying:) Sinners has a level of completeness. Heavy detailed with no need of exposition. 00:48:46 The Coogler/Jordan duo is strong, like Depp/Burton or Eastwood/Leone . and great point Nike. Who is the body double? 00:52:01 Blue Ray for Sinners is coming out in December. I bet the BlueRay/DVD people didn't expect it to be this loved. 00:53:07 And like Peele, forget the series. The movie series is corporate, the best filmmakers outside the superhero is one and done's. No Zenobia, I am fearful for universe building on sinners. Of course, Warner Bros, want to make money. That is what made Keannu Reeves control of John Wick well. Starz can't do what they want.

MY COMMENT

Zenobia, what character is depicted on your shirt? Nike, what are your thoughts to Coogler , like Peele, not revealing much, letting the online discourse go into the revelations? Zenobia, how many sins exist? Are their more than seven? To you both, where does Delroy Lindo's performance in Sinners place among his many? Nike, you are the first to quote scripture in discussion about this. Nike or Zenobia, what role do black parents have in the 1900s to making enslavement or more precisely the heritage even after the war between the states, have in making black children think that southern black heritage is ancient instead of the near past. Zenobia, I think your correct about the colors meaning. How often do you think the film sinners was talked about in Christian Bible Study groups? Aww Zenobia, mommy softee:) at the end. Questions asked to viewers of the review. Is Sinners one of Ryan Coogler's most personal films? Tough one. I think it definitely is in the sense that it is something he has produced that doesn't have the media protection of bigger brand content, so he is relying on himself and his vision. How is his storytelling from Fruitville Station to Sinners changed? I don't know. Peele + Coogler seem to be very astute on the stories they present, when and how they present. It is very managed. Unlike someone like myself who doesn't manicure his art for commerce, i think Coogler always does. Not in an evil way but financially comprehending films have to make money to keep making films. What lingers? When Sammie said he wanted to taste Pearline:) I want to taste her too:) hahaa Who is the body double? Percy Bell [ https://www.wfla.com/community/rooted-in-progress/michael-b-jordans-body-double-in-sinners-the-percy-bell-story-rooted-in-progress/ ] Thanks, stay cool this summer and see ya soon.

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https://aalbc.com/tc/events/event/369-granting-to-evil-circa-the-film-sinners-from-coogler/