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09 July 2026
Event created by richardmurray
This event began 07/09/2025 and repeats every year forever
Ask Eddie June 26th 2025+ Jennifer Tilly URL
https://www.tumblr.com/filmnoirfoundation/788438887805681664/in-case-you-missed-out-latest-episode-here-you?source=share
my thoughts
00:04:23 a new latin film noir, cool 00:09:16 First time i heard a cat with wheels, but glad to know it isn't work. 00:16:50 great story from Mueller's late friend on restoring a negative reel of a sweet smell of success. His friend mike said it was a ten mont job, twenty three reels a second. I am glad someone said AI does not think. I keep saying that. Interesting point, AI allows you to see what is soulless from what is not. 00:25:14 great story on how a writer divulged the weakness of chatgpt and learning models 00:28:38 is paul muni's I am a fugitive from a slave gang the first film noir? Mueller responds, it was part of a movement, a studio specific warner bros. socially conscious movement. But an outlier, because a movement were not started. He calls a film the first film noir, because of the copies that come after it. Hammett + bogart made the maltese falcon noir, and it was the first. 00:32:23 Glenn ford in ransom and rage, are they noir? Mueller says "ransom" feels like a thriller more than noir. Neither have seen "Rage". Spike did a version of high and low with denzel Washington. [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_and_Low_(1963_film) ] glenn ford was valuable to the studio for his versatility. fox had dana Andrew, Columbia had glenn ford. 00:45:$6 Was Bogart dubbed in the harder they fall? o cause bogart was available 00:48:15 what great voices in film noir or not well known? Barbara Stanwyck, Dan Duryea [ jon lovitz did a dan Duryea in Saturday night live ] The reason why so many had distinctive voices was nearly all actors back then came from radio so they were used to using their voice. Today he says today most actors don't have distinctive voices. A clip of tom cruise will not work out. Because of his one scene in glengarry glen ross , Mueller will know Alec Baldwin's voice 00:53:34 The legacy of constantin bakaleinkoff? The bakaleinkoff's were a musical family from Russia. constantin conducted the la symphony. Roy Webb wrote a lot of the scores but constantin conducted many. Out of the past is a roy webb score but constantin conducted it. In the 1950s musicians had a strike and that partly was the problem with the studio system, each studio had an orchestra. You will not see an rko movie from the 1940s without bakaleinkoff,but you sometime see his brothers. 00:58:40 why hasn't "to the ends of the earth " not on home video, 1948 with dick powell? It is a Columbia picture. warner bros owns the rko library. Columbia, now Sony, don't do much in putting out blue ray's. 01:01:00 Movie spoilers past and present viewing habits and audience attention? Mueller says why are movie goers today so different from movie goers in the mid 1900s. What distinguishes a genre film that plot. The only thing that makes something genre. Literary fiction doesn't have to have a plot. The difference of moviegoers is the why people went to the movies. PEople in the past went to the movie theaters for the theaters not the movie. In the late 1950 people saw enough films to get judgemental. And going to the movies became something people cared about and you wouldn't go in the middle. Alfred Hitchcock convinced theaters not to let anybody in when the movie started. A grindhouse is a theater where movies are running non stop. Intricacies exist, Audiences changed. and then when television came in, movies had to be special, and became grander. Now film movie goers have brought phones into theaters and scorcese said he will not go to theaters cause modern movie goers don't respect or pay attention. Some movies note audiences not to spoil. Great story on David fincher saying fuck em to those who haven't seen, the film being "Seven". Good point on how hard it is to trick audiences. Good point, how sinners will be revealed to most today. Mueller says the shining trailer is his favorite. [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAE7dNurHR4] Blumhouse is terrible at trailers. Mueller says with breaking bad or twin peaks, or better call saul, where it is not designed to binge. To create following for people to talk about shows, what will happen next. 01:22:54 cocktail recipes the vesper martini mueller does it differently 01:25:45 Tony Curtis she remember seeing TOny Curtis in "three act tragedy"
Bound at Noir City with Jennifer Tilly https://www.tumblr.com/communities/filmnoirpigeons/post/788540569269026816/academy-award-nominated-actress-jennifer-tilly?source=share
3:36 Tilly wasn't allowed to Ad lib by the Washowski's. 4:59 Tilly is funny. 6:23 Roger Ebert loved Bound early and it is a cult classic now. All you need is a man a woman a locked room and a weapon... and a crazed psycopath who just yells his lines. 8:50 great story on equal opportunity, no one wants to see Joey character. Delaurentiis didn't want joey, joe pantoliano. 14:53 Great story from Tilly on how she first met Gershon in Bound. 17:41 Jennfier tilly admitted Joe pantoliano courted the Wachowskis and tilly said she should had did likewise so we could be in the matrix. 20:00 Tilly is raw, she is a great guest, Mueller doesn't have to do anything but let her talk. Tilly said her sister runs around in important movie memorabilia. 24:39 The guy got paid extra money by the screen actors guild. 25:41 gershon and tilly talked about the shoe sale at barney's 28:19 nice description by Tilly to how the washowski's made the love scene between her and gershon as one shot film, being directed all the way. 33:13 Gershon brought Tilly tequila + chocolates for the scene. 38:30 great point by Tilly and a sequel to Bound. 42:19 Mueller is right, he has never done less and the sign language man never worked harder, than with Jennifer Tilly
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