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What is the heritage of the Black Descended of Enslaved and what cultures does it allow?

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This event began 08/02/2025 and repeats every year forever

My entire life I always heard a complaint from many black people whose forebears were enslaved to non blacks which sums up to , all or ninety nine percent of Black people need to do this one thing. And I thought and still think that absolute communalism, that catholicism, misses what our enslaved forebears went through or what gifts they gave us. The heritage is one where we are not bound to any land, the beautiful lands before the boats or the new lands after. The cultures from such a heritage are not about preaching or proselytizing but allowing all of us to go our own way with love from each other, no matter where any way leads. We Black DOSers often miss said heritage or said relationship to each others cultures. And  I comprehend the main reason. PEer pressure. When you live in the usa where most people talk about a forebear who made a journey of their free will to betterment. Being  descended of the indigenous who had everything taken or the black descended from enslaved who wanted no part of it, makes you honest outcast. So one can lie to themselves, start retelling their own ancestors stories to fit their peers. All of a sudden, a Black person whose forebears, in majority over ninety percent, died over the ocean and whose forebears didn't die over the ocean and survived, less than nine percent,  spent from the fifteen hundreds to the nineteen hundred and seventies , in majority over ninety percent, surviving non black terrorism/assault/murder with no protection places the presence of a voting pro statian fought in world war two black grandma as more relevant than the majority of their ancestors. Clearly imbalanced or inequal. But mandatory when you want to relate to your peers who have a whole generation of ancestors devoted to a better life in the usa. But I oppose peer pressure. I argue it is better to be the only person in the college classroom whose forebears in majority hated the country the classroom is in. I say it is better to embrace the absence of allegiance warranted by ones forebears. Will people including other black people who have fallen for peer pressure call you crazy/deluded/foolish? yes. But that is ok. The truth isn't meant to be common or good or accepted. It is meant to be the truth.

MY COMMENT

The Exodusters tried that, but had resistance from two groups. 

first whites from north /south/east/west who burned/killed/terrorized their towns out of existence

second blacks who were more willing to suffer the challenges of integrating with whites in the south or north to make mixed towns than the challenge of segregating from whites[their plantations/their cities/their states in the south or north] to the territories of the west that would become states.   

And it wasn't a divide and conquer scheme from that split blacks, our enslaved forebears were never united in the first place,  it was the problem black people had before the usa or brasil or haiti or mexico was founded. Black people whose forebears were enslaved by whites to the american continent original relationship to the americas doesn't provide a positive foundation to the americas.  and that is a heritage black people of the americas have alone. But it is a heritage that yields to different cultures. 

whereas whites (of europe or asia or elsewhere)have a unity based on the fact that over 90% of whites forebears came as willing people. So their is a collective idea of making a new home for yourself that binds into one culture. 

but black peoples enslaved forebears didn't want to come and most didn't, the reality is, black people enslaved forebears who made it to the american shoes are an extreme minority of their populace who was forced to leave africa. To restate, 90% of our enslaved forebears home is the atlantic ocean, from those who died on the boats which is majority plus those who jumped off the boat which is another minority. So if you me or anyone whose forebears were enslaved want to truly know where a majority of our forebears final residence was, it isn't the usa or haiti or brazil , it is the atlantic ocean. Become a citizen of the atlantic ocean. 

Now of course, most humans can not become citizens of the sea, our bodies are meant to be on land BUT, what this means is all paths we descended of enslaved choose beyond the atlantic ocean are merely acceptable options. Black DOS want to be president? fine. go to live in africa?  fine. go to live in a black country in the caribbean ? fine. make a black city in the usa? fine. all are acceptible, for the only true home of black dosers forebears is the atlantic ocean. so.... 

you stated what blacks should have concentrated on doing? 

Do you see? our forebears situation made us the only peoples in the american continent unattached, unbounded to these lands. This hurts our unity but also allows for our individualism. This is what I try to convey in this very forum, that so many of you guys don't see. You each want a culture, something grown, that is a  complete communalism that isn't justified based on our heritage, what we carry. 

Black DOSers are a people who have a unique heritage in the usa or the greater americas or including asia. Our forebears mostly died before they could land on new shores, so none of these new shores: brasil/usa/india are truly our homes. And sadly, the motherland, africa isn't our home because time never keeps a place the same. No where in africa is what our forebears were forced from. 

I end with something I tend to do in this forum, ask black people why don't they find like minded black people and go their path.

@umbrarchist why don't you live in a black town in the usa? you don't know anyone else black willing? I can't believe that. You can't find anyone else black willing? I can't believe that. 

I accept Black people whose forebears were enslaved are free to truly do what they want based on our forebears unfortune, and though it has taken years, I accept it as a positive. I tell my friends offline who talk about being american so much, why don't you run for office? why don't you become a member? 

I will repeat what I have said here many times. 

When I hear a black person offline say, we need to kill the whites. I say to them, find the other black people who also want to kill the non blacks and I hope you kill them all.  

When I hear a black person offline say, we need to embrace our citizenship to the usa . I say to them, find the other blacks who want to embrace the citizenship of the usa, and I hope you guys become presidents/ governors /mayors/ and unite all the humans in the usa in a functional plus honest peace.

When I hear a black person offline say, we need to have our own towns in the usa. I say to them, find all the other blacks who want to make their own towns in the usa, and I hope you guys make new towns/cities/and eventually becomes states with a level of self sufficiency or prosperity better than any can imagine. 

When a black person says they want something support them, if through nothing else but encouragement. You are not obliged to follow them or join them cause you may want other, and that is a heritage of Blacks. But stop preaching, stop debating, stop arguing, stop proselytizing. 

If a black person is suggesting something push them to do it, find other blacks that are willing to do the same, and if you are willing to do the same join in, but if you are not willing encourage. 

That is what we lacked circa 1865 and now. We Black whose forebears were enslaved keep trying to be other blacks or the non blacks. They are not us. A majority of our forebears who were enslaved are in one place, the oceans. We have no ties from the past to any of these places, so we are free to make them ourselves. Let's embrace that challenges, but let us also enjoy the advantages of it. Our forebears will not mind us being happy , no matter what we do. 

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