Viking Archery Truth Shadversity + Larsanderson23

viking aiming early attempts  Shadversity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmGORk9z5zQ

Lars Anderson Viking Archery video
short
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rii-oWSsU4s

long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_UOfqXL3SM

my comment shadversity

I think you two had good fun with this one. I did learn something. What is clear is, as the common technique changed over time, the media interpretation of the past simply ignored the common technique used in the past. I think that is very interesting. I wonder how many techniques were done differently in various martial arts in the past, that most people today don't recognize. I do think the run test is the one that really makes the case for this style. You can't run with your arms level to your shoulders faster than you can with your arms parallel to the side of the torso.  I argue, Viking archery wasn't weird. It was styled for people who shot while running and close chaotic combat, which you guys didn't test.  The standing style is best for the large armies, the lines of archers in the roman empire/Kemet empire/Chinese empire. But, the Rus/Varangians/Vikings/northmen were raiding peoples. The Varangians and Rus and Danes and Normands eventually became kingdoms or empires, but the raiding by Northmen occurred from testament to the muslim governments before during and after the formation of kingdoms by Northmen. My point being, the Northmen liked to raid, more than have a huge standing army and I think it reflects how the structure of organizations like the holy roman empire born from a hybrid roman/northman culture was a set of principalities fighting themselves raiding, and the dissolution of the Carolingian empire after Charlemagne died between his sons who raided each other. Raiding culture allows for an army to be the raiding force but I bet alot of raids not all from northmen were far fewer people, and not as absolutely devastating to the raided. So that an army was usually more an alliance of raiders/Vikings/pirates than a regimented army under one crown.  Anyway, I wish you guys would had made the following test, on your first attempts with the Viking style.   Take a thirty pound bow on the run and try to hit a target middle of the run while running, perpendicular to the path of the run, and after release keep running. And take a hundred pound bow on the run and try to hit a target middle of the run while running, perpendicular to the path of the run, and after release keep running.  Then try the same two run's above but have an option of three targets and randomly select one. I bet the advantage of the lower pound bow or the Viking style will occur.  What I think it will prove is, while the standing arms up style is better for more poundage standing still in a line of bowfolk or aiming from safe distances to targets, the running style is better suited for a mobility demanded random obstacle environment where one may be alone at times or using a random arrow and unable to stand and shoot. Raiding is war, but it is another form of war. Raiding isn't campaigns of one big army against another big army, raiding can be a group, attacking a town in another country. In that environment mobility is key. you can't stay and set up camp cause the town will get reinforcements that the group can't handle. 

comment url
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmGORk9z5zQ&lc=Ugz1DcSkrkdKLciwUdl4AaABAg

my comment lars Anderson long version
very informative thank you. The question I have is about European media. The paintings show the truth, but later on the styles changed. Were people in europe ashamed cause when  I think on the northman method, I realize , anyone can see it suits a raiding culture. not really large lines of bowfolk. Maybe people in europe descended from vikings were ashamed of the raiding culture of the vikings? any thoughts. I can make a modern example. In the USA many white people speak of the earliest and early white european settlers as farmers who just happened to have muskets. Colonial Williamsburg erases all violent actions to indigenous people of the americas from european settlers and their descendents. It is shame. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_UOfqXL3SM&lc=UgyFbqqi8q-Vw3Cy3sV4AaABAg&pp=0gcJCSMANpG00pGi

good one, but also add, the people telling them they were wrong, never tried to bow while running their fastest in a gauntlet with random targets. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_UOfqXL3SM&lc=UgxIPp_NaiJSfa0eO294AaABAg.AMiV_GmzeTwAN7li5gdfT-&pp=0gcJCSMANpG00pGi