Movies That Move We- Sounder 1972

Movies That Move We- Sounder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9WlL2KAjlg

My Thoughts To the Minutes
Movies That Move We, the third generation:) 
Lis + Kim+ Manda with Nike looking at Sounder.
Manda/Kim/Nike/Lis

2:10 interesting that Kim had to read The Secret Garden.  3:22 Nike question, a question of a black family written by a white man? Lis: don't feel it is well received Kim: if he grew up in a family different than him, or have a different  . But  Manda: a product of the time. He had editors. the gaze in the story is for a certain audience.  6:14 Nike couldn't find any interviews. She cites a note: "fifty years ago i learned to read at a round table at a country school house, the teachers name was Charles jones. After school he worked for my father and in the summer he drove a hay rake and a mowing machine. He had a deep rich voice and he loved to tell stories, I have never forgotten them. Out of the stories he told me and the boy who sat next to me in the round table came the story in this book" 7:42 Nike didn't like the unnamed characters 10:20 Swampy the dog had no other roles in a movie:)  11:21 Nike asked what do you think about the dog? Kim, she liked the dog in the book becoming part of the family.  17:14 Nike, is this a radical story? Lis, the screen writer was black for the film did that make a difference.  Kim, felt the film was tame. Manda, she turned it on and told her kids to go away. 22:45 The performance of Cicely Tyson  24:54 In the book, the author didn't have the ability to write the energy , so in the movie, a black woman was able to bring life in it. 27:11 in 1972 women couldn't have a credit card on their own in the united states of America, good point by Nike. 28:29 Lis, good point, god is the higher male and the pastor used god in that part. 29:55 Nike, when the boy went to the teachers house , he felt she was rich good question about whether he got that from a first hand source 31:32 Nike, what are your thoughts on the education scene? Kim, excited but sad. The teacher was considered rich for having her own home. A simple thing.  Manda, in the book, we saw his progression. he lamented he couldn't read. In the movie he already can. And in the book the teacher was an older white guy, while the teacher was a younger black female. 33:48 Overview call from Nike 34:19 Manda, ask, does the movie exist as a reclamation of the story.  37:56 The ending,  in the book the father was paralyzed very badly while in the movie, it was made more gentle. 39:15 Good point that the father and dog died in the book at the end. 39:42 Nike asked how did it feel Kim mentioned how she never lived in such a financially poor housing as the black characters in the book and she was spoiled as a child and when she was subjected to stories like this, she said thank god i am not in this situation. 41:36 Unike Sounder roots was very visible with the violence.  41:56 before Roots what story was the media standard?   43:28 Nike can't recall to many films with a black child at the center.

IN AMENDMENT
Sounder 2 supposedly was barely released which i argue is how the film industry producers historically kill films they don't want any to see but were forced from whatever reason to produce. Think John carter of mars for disney. IT was made , but Disney killed that film in advertising in the media mechanics of what a film needs. And Disney did it cause they bought MArvel and didn't want to waste any future money on a john carter series 
link
https://books.google.com/books?id=X7ZYsnTPIhwC&lpg=PA78&vq=annazette%20chase&pg=PA78#v=onepage&q&f=falseembed

referral
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Part_2,_Sounder

The Dandridge Sisters n 1940 Irene
https://youtu.be/CTeabecj_4o?si=BQ2qgnGQ6_1bTeYs

Bright Road
Directed by    Gerald Mayer
Screenplay by    Emmet Lavery
Based on    "See How They Run"
1951 short story Ladies' Home Journal
by Mary Elizabeth Vroman
Starring    Dorothy Dandridge
Philip Hepburn
Harry Belafonte
Barbara Ann Sanders
https://youtu.be/278qbMmPpPI?si=eqML-s-coYm5Wmwo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bright_Road

Four Shall Die is a 1940 American supernatural crime film directed by William Beaudine. It features Dorothy Dandridge in her first credited film role.
It says in the black cinemaconnection that the film is presumed lost. Damn!
https://blackcinemaconnection.com/2018/10/29/four-shall-die/

My Comment

Nike, you don't like stories with characters absent a name? Lis, the problem is, the producer of the film was white and controlled what could be done or emitted, to this day producers dictate the parameters of artistic expression of directors/thespians or others? Manda, what later films are inspired by Sounder's stylistic conversions from book to screenplay, if any? Manda ask is the film a reclamation.  I argue, yes absent deviating from being an intended feel good story.  A sounder 2?  My first question to you four is, with so many people, black in particular, desiring not to see films involving enslavement of blacks to whites, in the usa in particular, or seeing black struggle in an environment controlled by the non black, does Sounder fit the desire of some film goers , black or non black, to see a film absent black suffering or black struggle?  My second question to you four is, the film industry ever since the code came in has always pushed films based on literature to be less violent, less fornicative, less depictive of negativities than the books themselves, the two oppositions to that are the Frankenstein films and Glory from spielberg, where Frankenstein is written as a creature fully functional or pleasant in appearance as a human male, the movies make the creature, crude, disgusting looking, incapable to be with a woman, OR the fifty third regiment mostly made up of free black men who can read but are depicted more negatively in terms of their status or condition. But, from fifty shades to Sounder to lord of the flies, to journey to the west to the statian film adapations of "men who hate women" ninety nine percent of films are never allowed to go as far as books. So my question is, what do you say to that? Has the film going audience in the usa been trained to expect a lighter touch on violent scenes, so much that to do as the books most violent parts will be unacceptable?  Kim, roots was made in 1977, five years after , and Manda's question is interesting. If Sounder had not been made, would Roots be made? I think Roots is interesting cause even though Roots is well known , it isn't something shown alot today. And I argue it is because it isn't uplifting. Overall it doesn't allow non blacks to think of the usa as this country of egalitarianism, not does it allow blacks to think of the usa as some wanted home by their forebears, who were forced to immigrate.  Nanda, asked before Roots what was the film dealing with the past of blacks in the USA considered the "standard" and I argue Sounder was it.  Nike, check out the film Bright Road with Dorothy Dandridge, the question I pose to all four of you is, if no "Bright Road" 1953 happened would there be a Sounder film?

referral
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9WlL2KAjlg&lc=UgwTgyYJo5BPjxYaWzB4AaABAg