Black History

[zeke1234]

Thank you for letting me post.  A few favorite books are --

 

‘Atlas of the Transatlantic Slave Trade’   --   by David Eltis and David Richardson   --  most Black slaves were  transported to the Carribbean or South America  --  a few pages from this book are attached.

‘Extending the Frontiers  Essays on New Transatlantic Slave Trade Database’   --  by the same authors 

‘The Dutch in the Atlantic  Slave Trade  1600-1815’  --Johannes Postma – Appendix 13 names of  captains of  slave ships  for  West India Company ---  one page attached  with data on Merchantile Slaving Company  (MCC)

‘The Walls Came tumbling Down’, --  Mary Ovington  --  History of the NAACP      

‘Race Discourse and the Origin of the Americas’   --  by Hyatt and Nettleford  --  chapters are available as pdf

[zeke1234]

The purpose of my above post was to show that many more Africans were taken to the Carribbean as slaves  rather

than to North America, according to the Eltis and Richardson maps 147 and 137 above.    Whether the Carribbean was just

an intermediary stop, with final destination North America, many historians say no.

 

Table 7 above shows Rio de Janeiro and Salvador de Bahia in South America as places where most slaves were taken.  So Blacks presence

in North America should always be read in that context.  And what are American Blacks doing to lessen the Hispanic racism in South

America.   Buy only hardback cover of this book, it lasts longer.  Pay no more than $60.00.

 

Appendix 18 above from the "Dutch Slave Trade " book by Postma above, gives an indication of the number of deaths to Africans

before, during the slave trade captivity journey.    

 

Below is two  partial articles of five pages from 'Race Discourse' book mentioned above.  

[zeke1234]

The partial article above from the book,  'Race Discourse Founding of the Americas' by Hyatt and

Nettleford  emphasizes that there was probably an African presence in this Western hemisphere

before the time of Christ.    The question becomes, could Africans safely navigate the Atlantic Ocean  back to their

African homes, after their arrival in the Western hemisphere?   The current 1619 project

should be adjusted to take into account  these African explorers who had probably been

making the journey centuries before Columbus. 

 

Below is another partial  article regarding early Portuguese participation in the slave trade of Africans is below, from the same book. Which is a very costly and rare book.

[zeke1234]

CNN is talking about Tori Bowie's death.   So young, and probably preventable according to CNN.  

The book,  ‘The Slave Trade’ by Hugh Thomas is indispensable-  he discusses the House of Slaves in the royal palace of Lisbon, their part in the origin and perpetuation of the transAtlantic slave trade.  The major slave houses in Spain who financed the transAtlantic slave trade, and the King’s part of the Slave Trade.  A good hardback copy for $10.00 or less on Ebay.

The 'book archives'  website on the Internet and you can get any book on Black history no longer under copyright, ie, printed before 1925. 

Ebay and am*zon.com is still the best place to buy books on Black history.

Edward Hamilton Bargain books of the Internet used to have reasonably priced books.    Along with www.abebooks.com  and THRIFT books on the Internet.

www.Jstor.org on the Internet for free slavery history articles.  --  I always give a pseudo name, not my actual, on such websites.

McKay’s Books in Manassas, Virginia,  and in Nashville (on I-30 at the city limit coming in from Memphis heading East hidden behind trees)  always have good Black history sections. 

Powell’s Books in Oregon has a Black history section on the Internet, but is overpriced.

Powell’s Books in Chicago near 55^th Street on Southside  near University of Chicago  is normally loaded with Black history books.

Half-priced Books  in Seattle (at least two locations have good Black history sections), as well as in other states

Three pages from Ronald Segal’s,  "Islam’s Black Slaves"  is below.   Arabs'  transSahara total of Black slaves taken since 621 A.D  proximately 11.5 million according to Segal .    Also,   five pages from Yusuf Hasan’s,  ‘The Arabs and the Sudan’.   Focus, the transSahara slave trade of Black Africans.   Have faith in Jesus, put your trust in the Lord.  

[Pioneer1]

These are VERY good reads!  

The question one has to ask one's self is....why were so many Black men turned into "eunuchs" through out history.

 

[zeke1234]

Regarding Arab slavery of Africans, to keep the African men from Arab women.  While many younger African girls were

raped to death on their  enslaved   journey across the Sahara desert by their Arab captors.  This is well documented.  In the U.S. the Whites had

their own way with Black women for centuries.  They breeded the true African male out of existence in Brazil and

North America.

 

You see the tinges of this eunuch making of Blacks throughout the Bible.  Jerimiah's eunuch who saves Jerimiah from the dungeon

near Jeremiah chapter 37.  The Ethiopian eunuch in the book of ACTS who gets saved .    They always called them, 'Cush' (black).    When I pray, I tell those in Heaven all the time, once a racist always a racist, whether on earth or in heaven.   Retired Baptist preacher.

[Pioneer1]

8 hours ago, zeke1234 said:

Regarding Arab slavery of Africans, to keep the African men from Arab women.  While many younger African girls were

raped to death on their  enslaved   journey across the Sahara desert by their Arab captors.  This is well documented.  In the U.S. the Whites had

their own way with Black women for centuries.  They breeded the true African male out of existence in Brazil and

North America.

 

You see the tinges of this eunuch making of Blacks throughout the Bible.  Jerimiah's eunuch who saves Jerimiah from the dungeon

near Jeremiah chapter 37.  The Ethiopian eunuch in the book of ACTS who gets saved .    They always called them, 'Cush' (black).    When I pray, I tell those in Heaven all the time, once a racist always a racist, whether on earth or in heaven.   Retired Baptist preacher.

Spot on!

Man, you stole a little bit of my thunder as I was going to wait a few posts before I sprung those facts on the people....lol.

You even mentioned how Black people were Eunuchs in the Bible, something I was going to hit them with a little further along!

Yes, Caucasians have a LONG history of demasculinizing and emasculating many Black men both physically and mentally.
 

[ProfD]

Some African men who work around royal women are castrated too.

 

Don't want those brothas to rise up while bathing the Queen Mother.

[zeke1234]

The one page below says in 1526, Allyon left a ‘number’ of Africans on the coast of Georgia or South Carolina.  95 years before 1619.  In the article, ‘ North American Indians and the Demography of Contact’, by  Russell Thornton, in the book ‘Race Discourse and Founding of the Americas’, by Nettleford and Hyatt. 

           

 

 

A couple of two page article excerpts, emphasizing the fact  that humanity emerged on the continent of Africa.   

      

And only non-subSahara-Africans have Neanderthal genes.  Probably why non-subSahara people want to dominate the world.

  

 

You find the King of the Congo’s 1514 letter to Portuguese King at the Internet location,                                     sammy-baloji-congos-fragments_book_en 

A good downloadable history of Egypt at the UNESCO site,  https://unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000032875

Sweet Daddy Grace has the suit on below.  Most photos from Library of Congress, are in the public domain.   1893  ‘colored’  vaudesville persons in one photo.  Also Bert Williams, big comedian star around 1900.   Tipu Tipp big enslaver of his own people.  Blyden, Black nationalist.  7th Colored in front of white building.  The other is the 4th Colored after the Civil War.   In Christ Jesus, go to church.    

 

 

 

 

[zeke1234]

The twenty gentlemen surrounding Mary Bethune above are Roosevelt's Black cabinet from the 1930s,

courtesy Library of Congress.   Check out the  AXE files, David Axlerod interview with Obama three

days ago, Obama's criticism of Tim Scott's run for president.  Scott is not mentally Black enough for Obama.  

 

Below shows a Black in Brazil at Mardi Gra, which will be deleted from this comment in a couple of weeks for obvious reasons. 

[zeke1234]

I include one more photo Brazil Carnival, of progeny of Africans once enslaved in Brazil.  How do we

raise the consciousness and economic opportunities and equality of Blacks in Brazil?   This photo

will also be removed from this comment in the following weeks.

 

Two pages from history  of Blacks in the Caribbean included showing Barbados Blacks as 86% genetically Africans.

Ancestry.com says I am 75% African, one-half of that Ghana, the other half the Congo.

[zeke1234]

Below is Sidney Portier at a book signing around the year 2000.

Dick Gregory and M. King Jr.  around year 2000.

New Black Panther and Farrakan  around 2001  in D.C. for reparations.

[zeke1234]

That display at the Greek Theatre in Los Angeles yesterday goes against everything Godly in the Black race.

You saw sensuous Black devils, ready for the fires of Hell.  Blacks are not free to shake their behinds

on TV in front of millions, calling that 'freedom'.  That was Satanic.  That is not why thousands of Blacks came out of cotton fields, to fight for the

North during the Civil War, only to be massacred by Confederate soldiers.  That is not why hundreds/thousands  of Blacks sacrificed

their lives on France beaches on D-Day in the 1940s, without ever having a chance against German machine guns in fortified bunkers. 

These Blacks gave their lives, to create a  better   future for Blacks in America, which 'some' of the younger generation is Hell bent on distorting and

destroying.

 

[ProfD]

9 hours ago, zeke1234 said:

That display at the Greek Theatre in Los Angeles yesterday goes against everything Godly in the Black race.

You saw sensuous Black devils, ready for the fires of Hell.  Blacks are not free to shake their behinds

on TV in front of millions, calling that 'freedom'.

Unfortunately, the elders and *adults* on the Juneteenth celebration planning committee did nothing to keep every performance classy. 

 

Whoever was in charge of booking the performers should have known better as well.

 

Also, I'm sure they had rehearsals leading up to the celebration. Plenty opportunities to speak up. Obviously, it didn't happen.

 

Maybe the committee was not as rigid as it relates to a reasonable and acceptable performance.

 

I would have hired Jazz musicians and old R&B singers like a PBS special begging for pledge donations.

 

I still would have invited Jodeci, SWV and Uncle Charlie Wilson.

 

Thankfully, only a few of the dance routines were a bit ratchet. 

[Troy]

That is a boatload of information @zeke1234 welcome to the forums.

 

@ProfD I just finished reading a chapter on the book Disintegration: The Splintering of Black America in which the author defines four Black American groups.  In it he describes how the "mainstream middle-class" bristled at the way the dancers at an HBCU football game dressed provocatively and booty shaking on the football field.

 

I did not see the show, but it has been my observation the much of what was restricted to the strip club has made it into mainstream Black culture -- the way women dress, the lyrics in our music, and the way we dance is all heavily influenced by the strip club... seriously.

 

I saw Jodeci and Charlie Wilson perform a year ago and these groups appeal to middle-aged folks and older.  Young adults are into the strip club style performers. 

 

Hey did you know groups of women and couples now go to strip clubs nowadays?  At least that is what I hear

 

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, Troy said:

Hey did you know groups of women and couples now go to strip clubs nowadays?  At least that is what I hear

Yep.  It's true.  Right up there with couples watching porn together.

 

The bar on lyrics and dance in music has steadily gotten lower since the late 1980s.  From the 1990s and beyond, songs and music videos have become more raunchy and ratchet.  Anything related to s8x sells.

 

Then, both on TV and in public, some of the clothing women choose to wear leaves little or nothing to the imagination.  They will advertise for free but do not want to be objectified and accuse men of being sexist and sometimes misogynistic. 

 

As Black folks we have to get on code both in terms of how we represent ourselves and treat each other. 

[zeke1234]

Thanks for the welcome aboard Troy.  Found your website by 'accident', while surfing other articles.

Your webmaster is good, whoever the person is.  I am almost 70 years old, and look much like

Spike Lee.  Retired Baptist preacher, who lives 'down South'.   Graduated from a Big Ten University about in the mid-1970s,

majoring in basketball, and not attending classes.  I have connections to Gethsemane Baptist in DC, as well as many Christian friends

in DC,  Detroit, Chicago etc.   Reverend Charles Fleet was a preaching friend of mine in DC,  until he passed several years ago.  

That Juneteenth feed from Los Angeles was on at least two different stations, and CNN could have cut it at any time.  

I have noticed the behind shaking antics at half-time shows at Superbowls since the year 2000.  Those who find that type

of behavior as acceptable, are just as culpable in God's eyesight as those who do it.  The Church ain't dead, neither is Jesus.  Check out

Perry Maples on wlok.com Memphis 8:00 am CST Sundays, for his pulpit observations.    Hartford Baptist in Detroit streams live 

from n their website at 7:00 am EST Sundays.   You must be born again, that which is born of the flesh is flesh, that which is born

of the Spirit is spirit

[ProfD]

49 minutes ago, zeke1234 said:

That Juneteenth feed from Los Angeles was on at least two different stations, and CNN could have cut it at any time.  

I have noticed the behind shaking antics at half-time shows at Superbowls since the year 2000.  Those who find that type

of behavior as acceptable, are just as culpable in God's eyesight as those who do it.  The Church ain't dead, neither is Jesus. 

 I doubt the Juneteenth celebration was planned from a religious perspective. 

 

Surely, it would it would have been a different show if TD Jakes had been involved and/or consulted. 

 

Otherwise, I'd imagine Christians were in attendance.  They show up at sporting events, secular concerts, music video shoots, etc. Some actively participate.

 

 The religious folks who do not boycott rump-shaking and gyrating events will have some explaining to do at the pearly gates.

[zeke1234]

I want to comment on ProfD's comment, "I doubt the Juneteenth celebration was planned from a religious perspective". 

But it should have been, especially when broadcast  on national TV.  A 'national holiday' display of the lewd and vulgar.

I was hoping for something similar to the 'Million Man March', at the very least.  In the Christian church, we teach three

types of love, eros which we hold to be devilish, of Satan.  Filial, friendship, which has secular implications, but also

which Christ used to refer to the apostles, 'brotheren/friends'.  And agape love, long suffering, blessing our enemies, 'bitter the road we

trod".  It was only when King's SCLC put the non-violent  methodology to work, did we get past the failings of the NAACP which had

been leading the struggle since 1900.  A Black Christian movement, led to the 'freedom' gained in the second Reconstruction 1965.

Of course, non-Christians participated, but the SCLC  led.  In 1865, Reverend Garrison Frazier, Black baptist, and ten other Black baptist

preachers, told General Sherman, we don't want to integrate with Whites, we want our own land.  Juneteenth has always been a Black baptist

thing.  The last time I looked, there were 10 million members of the National Black Baptist Convention.    Beside the other two Black baptist

conventions.

 

[zeke1234]

After listening to the Coast Guard's news conference on the loss of the Titan submersible today, things

just don't add up.  They say the wreckage is consistent with catastrophic implosion of the vessel (in the water column). 

Yet in the debry field, they identified  the nose cone, the pressure hull, aft, 'five major pieces'.    Close to one another,

not near the Titanic wreckage.   Let's see if any of this debry will ever be brought to the surface for analysis.   And, how many

Blacks do you think lost their lives on the Titanic?   I'll  bet not one was allowed on any of the side boats that escaped.

[ProfD]

12 hours ago, zeke1234 said:

After listening to the Coast Guard's news conference on the loss of the Titan submersible today, things just don't add up. 

 

And, how many Blacks do you think lost their lives on the Titanic?   I'll  bet not one was allowed on any of the side boats that escaped.

That would be subject matter for a different thread if we really wanted to dive into it. 

 

Not really something that concerns Black folks especially when most could not and still cannot afford a ticket to such excursions. 

 

Quite frankly, since those slave-ship cruises from Africa killed many of our people en route to enslaving the survivors, Black folks shouldn't be overly anxious to travel across across bodies of water with white folks.

[zeke1234]

If its money that's keeping you from thinking about the Titan 'implosion', they we give you a free trip to be the first Black to ride in their next submersible.  Obviously Titan’s alleged implosion effects Black people everywhere, or it wouldn’t have been on MSNBC, CNN, and FOX  as the feature, 12 hours each day, for  three days.    The Titan alledged 'implosion'  is bigger than Watergate, bigger than the Superbowl.   But what does it mean as an event to Black people, is the question.   It challenges our common sense, as did the deaths of hundreds of Whites and Blacks during Katrina.    

Common sense, the truth,  if an 'implosion' occurred on the Titan submersible,  a caving in of the vessel upon itself  according to TV experts , then why is the hull (where the passengers were), the aft,  the pressure chamber at the end of the vessel, the titanium nose cone, why are they still recognizable and intact?  If they were hit by thousands of pounds of water per square inch?   This TV accounting by the Coast Guard seems fictional, a lie.   Fox 28 in Spokane published the article, ‘Deep-sea robot found debris field possibly linked to missing Titan’ by the AP, June 22, 2023

“The U.S. Navy is sending a specialized salvage system that’s capable of hoisting “large, bulky and heavy undersea objects such as aircraft or small vessels” in the hopes that the Titan will be found in the waters of the North Atlantic.  The Titan weighs 20,000 pounds (more than 9,000 kilograms). The U.S. Navy’s Flyaway Deep Ocean Salvage System is designed to lift up to 60,000 pounds (27,215 kilograms), the Navy said on its website.  The Flyaway has a traction winch as well as a system that prevents “high-snap tension” from occurring in the lift line.”

There need a complete recovery of the Titan submersible by this Navy Flyaway Deep Salvage System.  And if not, why?   An complete accounting by the Navy, Coast Guard, and NTSB  as to how those five people lost their lives.   I smell a coverup, just like during Katrina.   ‘Uplift your idea’ as to what ‘concerns’ Black people, I am my White brother’s keeper.     I am concerned about any part the U.S. military may have had in the destruction of the submersible. 

This laboratory created meat that TV stations talked about today, that they are selling everywhere, approved by the FDA, with any public hearings beforehand, concerns Black people everywhere.  The origin of Covid-19, concerns Black people everywhere.  Black history is not just in the past, it is being churned out today, for the better or the worst.  Black history intersects White and Hispanic history, and their present manifestations.  Black history elides with the Kingdom of God, with every breath you take.   Can’t stick your head in the sand like an ostrich, and say it doesn't concern me.

[ProfD]

15 hours ago, zeke1234 said:

Obviously Titan’s alleged implosion effects Black people everywhere, or it wouldn’t have been on MSNBC, CNN, and FOX  as the feature, 12 hours each day, for  three days.   

 

It challenges our common sense, as did the deaths of hundreds of Whites and Blacks during Katrina.    

 

 ‘Uplift your idea’ as to what ‘concerns’ Black people, I am my White brother’s keeper.     I am concerned about any part the U.S. military may have had in the destruction of the submersible. 

The Titan implosion took up so much airtime because white folks care about it.

 

Black folks would never have been on that sub voluntarily. We're not high-risk thrill seekers.

 

Hurricane Katrina was used to displace Black folks from the city of New Orleans. Look at the white-washing, er, revitalization of the city and how much of its flavor has been lost. 

 

I'm certainly my brother's keeper especially when it comes to overthrowing the system of racism white supremacy.