ProfD Posted January 3 Report Posted January 3 https://www.npr.org/2025/01/02/g-s1-40854/tesla-cybertruck-explosion-las-vegas Probably a coincidence but there was another tragedy on New Year's Day. Another American citizen and member of the military made the news when he blew up a Tesla CyberTruck in front of Trump hotel in Las Vegas. Unless a manifesto was left behind, we may never know the motivation of this man because he killed himself. Unfortunately, these events will continue until America deals with the underlying conditions.
Troy Posted January 3 Report Posted January 3 3 hours ago, ProfD said: Unfortunately, these events will continue until America deals with the underlying conditions. Even if America becomes a utopia there will still be people, guys usually, who bug out and commit acts of violence. Maybe in a few hundred thousand years will evolve past committing these types of acts.
ProfD Posted January 3 Author Report Posted January 3 11 hours ago, Troy said: Even if America becomes a utopia there will still be people, guys usually, who bug out and commit acts of violence. Maybe in a few hundred thousand years will evolve past committing these types of acts. Right now, there are countries where this type of sh8t just doesn't happen. Mexico (33k) and the United States (22k) lead the world in homicides. Meanwhile, Japan has a population of 125 million with only 912 murders in a year. It shouldn't take a few hundred thousand years for people in the most developed country on the planet to stop killing each other. Unfortunately, America has an underlying condition that has not bee treated.
Pioneer1 Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 He allegedly DID leave a note behind after shooting himself and blowing up his truck. He called his actions a "stunt" and said it was a wake-up call for America...whatever that meant. They said he too suffered from PTSD from serving overseas and was dealing with a lot of pain and anguish from head injuries. My uncle warned me years ago when I was a teenager NOT to go into the military.
ProfD Posted January 4 Author Report Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: He allegedly DID leave a note behind after shooting himself and blowing up his truck. They said he too suffered from PTSD from serving overseas and was dealing with a lot of pain and anguish from head injuries. Right. They're also reporting his woman left and accused him of being a cheater. Thankfully, he only killed himself instead of taking others too. However, if he had a military career, he should have been in a position to find another woman. No need to unalive yourself over one snatch box. PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) is a very real thing especially for those who have seen and/or done horrible things in their military service.
Pioneer1 Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 ProfD However, if he had a military career, he should have been in a position to find another woman. No need to unalive yourself over one snatch box. You know most White men don't think like us. They don't lose a woman and then say "oh well" and then set out to find another. They often have the mentality of POSSESSING women as if they own them. If their woman tries to leave, they will try to do anything including violence to her or themselves to keep her or bring her back. It doesn't matter how many women are out there available to them, they usually focus on the one in their so-called "possession". I've noticed this for years, which is why I've came to some of the conclusions I've come to about the history and traditions of marriage, patriarchy, and how it relates to race and the racial differences in cultures. PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) is a very real thing especially for those who have seen and/or done horrible things in their military service Perhaps the Souls of those who were unjustly murdered or otherwise harmed by them often haunt them.
ProfD Posted January 5 Author Report Posted January 5 2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: They often have the mentality of POSSESSING women as if they own them. One of the worse human traits to have is treating another person like a possession. There's no such thing as ownership. Yet, throughout human history, ever since the caveman, folks have been cuffing and clubbing when sh8t goes sideways. 2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Perhaps the Souls of those who were unjustly murdered or otherwise harmed by them often haunt them. I don't know if souls haunt them but memories and images of those events definitely some folks negatively. Then, that leads to wonder about those folks who saw the same thing and far worse and they're able to function as if it was nothing.
Pioneer1 Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 ProfD One of the worse human traits to have is treating another person like a possession. There's no such thing as ownership. Yet, throughout humam history, ever since the caveman, folks have been cuffing and clubbing when sh8t goes sideways. As much as I don't care too much for the idea of the mentality of "owning" somebody, I can respect it for it's results. White men tend to be very possessive and feel like they own their women. Although I don't ascribe to that and most Black men don't....that mentality keeps White women in check and it also keep most of the people under the rule of White men in-line as well. That possessive dominating mentality. If more Black men thought like that: 1. I don't think there would be so many broken and dysfunctional families in the Black community not only in the United States but around the globe. As you pointed out before, the dysfunction in African families rivals that of AfroAmerican families so they can't point the finger at us. 2. Our women probably would respect us more. Yes...respect through fear....but respect us more none the less. This laid back...let her go and do as she pleases...mentality. I respect it as a person who believe in equality and freedom for both sexes, however I do recognize that it's not very helpful if our goal as men is to build and maintain power.
ProfD Posted January 5 Author Report Posted January 5 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: That possessive dominating mentality. That's actually a weakness. Women may find it flattering up to a point but they don't respect it. Same goes for people in general especially those who are weak-minded. They will tuck up under someone who is controlling and dominating up until they can escape. 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: If more Black men thought like that: 1. I don't think there would be so many broken and dysfunctional families in the Black community not only in the United States but around the globe. As you pointed out before, the dysfunction in African families rivals that of AfroAmerican families so they can't point the finger at us. 2. Our women probably would respect us more. Yes...respect through fear....but respect us more none the less. This laid back...let her go and do as she pleases...mentality. I respect it as a person who believe in equality and freedom for both sexes, however I do recognize that it's not very helpful if our goal as men is to build and maintain power. Power, strength and security are the traits that people respect and fear and it keeps them in check. A man should build his power first. Everything else falls in place. A powerful man doesn't have to possess, control or dominate anyone. People will subject themselves to him. Look no further than Russia. Vladamir Putin literally has 143 million people in check.
Pioneer1 Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 ProfD That's actually a weakness. Women may find it flattering up to a point but they don't respect it. From what I've seen and heard, most prostitutes highly respect their Pimps. And they tend to be possessive and dominant. Especially the "mack" type. Same goes for people in general especially those who are weak-minded. They will tuck up under someone who is controlling and dominating up until they can escape. Many of them don't want to escape. They like the feeling of "protection" under a dominant man. Power, strength and security are the traits that people respect and fear and it keeps them in check. A man should build his power first. Everything else falls in place. I agree that a man should build his power, but he has to go about doing it in the RIGHT way first. And when I say the "right" way, I'm not just talking about from a moral/ethical point...but right as in EFFECTIVE. Like we mentioned in the other thread about Black faces in high places. A nigga simply being APPOINTED to a position of leadership isn't real power. Just like somebody put him up there, somebody can remove him. But a Black man who BUILDS his own business from the ground up and sits on the top of it...that's real power. A powerful man doesn't have to possess, control or dominate anyone. People will subject themselves to him. Uhhh....yes and no. Sometimes people will fall in line and subject themselves to him, and sometimes he has to SHOW them what's up. Voluntarily or involuntarily. Either way, power makes people subject to it.
ProfD Posted January 5 Author Report Posted January 5 20 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: From what I've seen and heard, most prostitutes highly respect their Pimps. And they tend to be possessive and dominant. Especially the "mack" type. False equivalence. A prostitute will trade pimps at the drop of a dime. Let him get locked up. Also, pimps are powerless in the grand scheme of things. They little or no influence when it comes to politics. 20 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: Many of them don't want to escape. They like the feeling of "protection" under a dominant man. The incoming 1st lady of the United States looks like a hostage. She's only there for the perks. In the case of these latest dead dudes, their women left them. 20 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: A powerful man doesn't have to possess, control or dominate anyone. People will subject themselves to him. Uhhh....yes and no. Sometimes people will fall in line and subject themselves to him, and sometimes he has to SHOW them what's up. Voluntarily or involuntarily. Either way, power makes people subject to it. Regardless of whether people subject themselves voluntarily or involuntarily, power is the common denominator. Not possession.
Pioneer1 Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 ProfD Also, pimps are powerless in the grand scheme of things. They little or no influence when it comes to politics. Pimps may not have a lot of political power, but they have a degree of power on the streets. They have control. Control is power. The incoming 1st lady of the United States looks like a hostage. She's only there for the perks. Lol... I'm sure she VOLUNTARILY married Donald, for the money and status. You said she's only there for the "perks". Couldn't that be said about ANY wife? What woman marries a man for nothing? In the case of these latest dead dudes, their women left them. Yes. But crazy dudes don't count in these type of discussions. That throws everything off. Sure a woman likes a man with money and power. But if he's walking around their apartment complex in dirty doo-doo streaked draws and a tin-foil hat mumbling something about ISIS and taking out his entire family as a sacrifice- No chains are strong enough! No locks are strong enough ! To keep ANY woman in the "possession" of a man THAT damn crazy! Crazy don't count, lol. Regardless of whether people subject themselves voluntarily or involuntarily, power is the common denominator. Not possession Possession is an EXAMPLE of power. If you didn't have it, you wouldn't be able to possess anybody.
ProfD Posted January 7 Author Report Posted January 7 On 1/5/2025 at 1:59 PM, Pioneer1 said: Control is power. Control comes with power. Not synonymous. On 1/5/2025 at 1:59 PM, Pioneer1 said: I'm sure she VOLUNTARILY married Donald, for the money and status. It is an arranged marriage. On 1/5/2025 at 1:59 PM, Pioneer1 said: You said she's only there for the "perks". Couldn't that be said about ANY wife? What woman marries a man for nothing? Past to present, there's no shortage of women married to dudes for nothing. Love doesn't count as something. On 1/5/2025 at 1:59 PM, Pioneer1 said: Crazy don't count, lol. The discussion started around these potentially crazy dudes. On 1/5/2025 at 1:59 PM, Pioneer1 said: Possession is an EXAMPLE of power. If you didn't have it, you wouldn't be able to possess anybody. That's just it...people don't possess each other. Only material things can be possessed. We don't claim to have power over it.
ProfD Posted January 7 Author Report Posted January 7 The truck bomber left behind a note that included his actions were a wake-up call to Chinese drones being a threat to national security. The guy asked that his identity not be revealed until a certain date. His ex-girlfriend claims that he while he mentioned having issues related to his deployments, he was a kind, generous and fun-loving guy. Didn't see him taking this road.
Pioneer1 Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 ProfD Control comes with power. Not synonymous. Can we atleast agree that control is a FORM OF power? That's just it...people don't possess each other. Only material things can be possessed. "Yeah....are you sure about that?" Millions of people locked away in the state and Federal prisons may disagree with the statement that people don't possess other people. The truck bomber left behind a note that included his actions were a wake-up call to Chinese drones being a threat to national security. Shows you his mental state. How is shooting yourself and blowing up your vehicle supposed to be a "wake-up call" to some Chinese drones? And why would a guy who plans to kill himself anyway even CARE what threatens America? He's not going to be around to witness or experience it. The thinking of some of these people is off the wall crazy. His ex-girlfriend claims that he while he mentioned having issues related to his deployments, he was a kind, generous and fun-loving guy. Didn't see him taking this road. Yeah, well I would ask her if he was so "kind" and "fun loving" why was he your EX? Why did you leave such a kind and fun loving guy? Didn't you want to have more "fun"????
ProfD Posted January 8 Author Report Posted January 8 33 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: Can we atleast agree that control is a FORM OF power? Agreed. Control is a form of power. 33 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: Millions of people locked away in the state and Federal prisons may disagree with the statement that people don't possess other people. Criminals agreed to become state property if they got caught. 33 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: Shows you his mental state. How is shooting yourself and blowing up your vehicle supposed to be a "wake-up call" to some Chinese drones? And why would a guy who plans to kill himself anyway even CARE what threatens America? He's not going to be around to witness or experience it. The thinking of some of these people is off the wall crazy. Suicide isn't rooted in reality, rationale or logic but it's not always a mental illness either. 33 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: Yeah, well I would ask her if he was so "kind" and "fun loving" why was he your EX? Why did you leave such a kind and fun loving guy? Didn't you want to have more "fun"???? Women have so many options. She may have upgraded to a better dude.
Pioneer1 Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 ProfD Suicide isn't rooted in reality, rationale or logic but it's not always a mental illness either. I think it depends on the REASON for the suicide. Certainly, there's a difference between an 80 year old man who has been diagnosed with some terminal extremely painful disease that the doctors can barely treat who decides to end his misery...and some 17 year old healthy girl who decides that life isn't worth living anymore because her boyfriend just broke up with her. Women have so many options. She may have upgraded to a better dude. Being ALONE in and of itself may have been an upgrade, lol.
ProfD Posted January 9 Author Report Posted January 9 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: I think it depends on the REASON for the suicide. Reason doesn't matter because most people won't agree with taking your own life. Also, in some beliefs, suicide is considered a sin which makes it harder for people to talk about their issues/problems. 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Certainly, there's a difference between an 80 year old man who has been diagnosed with some terminal extremely painful disease that the doctors can barely treat who decides to end his misery...and some 17 year old healthy girl who decides that life isn't worth living anymore because her boyfriend just broke up with her. Pain is the common denominator. Nobody else gets to determine the reason or rationale as it relates to the *degree* of pain for that individual. Through one's own prism, it's easy to suggest that a person should keep living despite their situation or circumstances. That's why they don't allow just anybody to work the suicide prevention hotline. The last thing they want us to say is...get over it already. 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Women have so many options. She may have upgraded to a better dude. Being ALONE in and of itself may have been an upgrade, lol. Most definitely. Dude could have been nice and kind but just weird enough to leave alone.
Pioneer1 Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 ProfD Reason doesn't matter because most people won't agree with taking your own life. Because many of them haven't faced situations where death would be a welcomed relief compared to what they're going through. Some probably have, but many haven't and are just talking and pontificating. Also, in some beliefs, suicide is considered a sin which makes it harder for people to talk about their issues/problems. I think the Catholic Church ex-communicates you post mortem and won't even give you a decent burial if you commit suicide. Nobody else gets to determine the reason or rationale as it relates to the *degree* of pain for that individual. You have a point. You never know what another individual is going through. Most definitely. Dude could have been nice and kind but just weird enough to leave alone. Ain't it funny how being "weird" is often a deal breaker for some women but most men don't care if a woman is "weird" as long as she's not dangerously weird...lol.
ProfD Posted January 10 Author Report Posted January 10 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Because many of them haven't faced situations where death would be a welcomed relief compared to what they're going through. Some probably have, but many haven't and are just talking and pontificating. I think the Catholic Church ex-communicates you post mortem and won't even give you a decent burial if you commit suicide. You never know what another individual is going through. Misery loves company. We live in a society where people would rather see others *suffer* along with them rather than exit the scene on their own terms. Some folks will even call the person who committed suicide a *coward* for not sticking around to deal with whatever was going on in their head and life. You're right...we have no idea of how that other person feels prior to making that final decision. The kicker is that if it's not time for that person to go, their *attempt* at ending it will be unsuccessful. 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Ain't it funny how being "weird" is often a deal breaker for some women but most men don't care if a woman is "weird" as long as she's not dangerously weird...lol. Right. But, there's no shortage of both women and men who for one reason or another like people who are weird, crazy, controlling, etc. At least they like it until the tables turn on them. Men like a weird or crazy chick until he wakes up in the middle of the night and she's hovering over him butt-naked, smiling like a Jack-O-Lantern.
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