Pioneer1 Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 This Sunday morning while listening to some old Hiphop music I was listening to Onyx's "Slam" (stop tryna be as loud as ME cuz' you can't do dat) and one of the lines was: "Peace to the bruthaz on Ricker's Isle" Then I thought about these government officials who refused to drop the charges against Eric Adams and would rather resign instead to prove some sort of point or in the name of "justice" and then I thought about Riker's Island and the MANY THOUSANDS of men who have been locked up for month and months and in many cases YEARS in that fucking dungeon awaiting "trial". Many of them were killed or just died of natural causes in that jail not yet having their day in court for whatever they were initially arrested and accused of. Yet I didn't hear of ANY resignations over that situation. Not one. But the prosecution of Mayor Adams? THAT'S the hill they're willing to plant their flag and sacrifice themselves on? Such hypocrisy.
ProfD Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 Riker's Island is a state run prison. The state prosecutors of NY put the brothas there. Of course they're not going to reverse decisions that fuel the prison industrial complex. On the other hand, Mayor Eric Adams' case is federal. it's a political hit job. Apples and oranges. No hypocrisy.
Pioneer1 Posted February 23 Author Report Posted February 23 ProD Riker's Island is a state run prison. Prison??? Are you sure? I thought it was just a jail or local detention center.
ProfD Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 34 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: ProD Riker's Island is a state run prison. Prison??? Are you sure? I thought it was just a jail or local detention center. Once convicted, inmates are sent from a place like the Manhattan Detention Center to do their time at Riker's Island prison.
richardmurray Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 @Pioneer1 Riker's island is legally a jail, functionally a detention center. 85% of those in Rikers are pretrial defendents. https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/16/nyregion/what-is-happening-at-rikers-island.html The oldest jail on Rikers is a detention center for men https://correctionhistory.org/html/chronicl/nycdoc/html/jailist1.html What you have to comprehend is that Riker's has grown and mutated over one hundred years reflecting new york city's population growth from the early 1900s to now, while because it has needed many manipulations to expand, it is under federal/state/city law . But NYC operates it. But the state and federal government have operational influence as well. And to your point, it is a question of government officials thinking they are above critique/hypocritical. New York City+New York State+The Federal Government have each assessed rikers a trillion times through the years. The federal government has had an assessor for riker's island near ten years now. The department of justice is fully aware of everything that has gone on in rikers. The reason why all three layers of government officials feel convinced that the assessing is enough and they don't warrant any critique on their actions or themselves is based on the role of riker's as part of many agendas. The question is simple,what if Rikers went away, what about the parties involved who support it? The NYPD isn't going to change their mode of operation, the most common crime in nyc is domestic violence from a white man to a white woman but you don't get funding with that. I can't recall any black church who supported rikers or the adjacent war on drugs or war on crime admitting they were wrong, even after all the data proves rikers and said wars clearly were used to attack the black populace in nyc. Black elected officials in the usa have a heritage of not having black agendas that don't take into account the nonblack, even financial ones, so the fiscal poverty in the black populace that leads to the fiscal crimes will not stop. Non Black Elected officials have always loved the narrative of illegalities or crimes being centered about the black populace and never their own even though the truth is the non Black populaces have far more crime/illegalities in them, which their elected officials help to remove from the media eye or legalize in some fashion Rikers is inevitable when you look at the New York City
Pioneer1 Posted February 25 Author Report Posted February 25 richardmurray Riker's island is legally a jail, functionally a detention center. 85% of those in Rikers are pretrial defendents. That's what I thought. 1
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