Democrats Cave In and Crash Out

[ProfD]

After 43 days of hand-wringing, Democrats caved in on a piece of legislation that reopens the government.

 

SNAP benefits restored. Air traffic controllers and other folks will get paid.

 

Surely, the Democrats got something in return...yeah no.

 

Adding insult to injury, the Democrats are crashing out against each and pointing fingers at who's responsible for this cluster f8ck.

 

Right now, I do not see how Democrats plan to reclaim the House and Senate and White House any time within the next several years.

 

The Democratic party is still weak, spineless and rudder-less. They need a makeover and agenda to overtake the ruthless Republicans.

[Pioneer1]

First of all, the fact that a national government can actually "shut down" or "close down" should make people suspicious that this is all just one big game.

The United States government isn't a McDonalds or  Jiffy Car Wash franchise designed to lock it's doors and "close down".
It's a GOVERMENT which means it operates 24/7 365.
That's like you telling your children the home is "shutting down" and you refuse to feed them.
It makes no sense.
You're just refusing to feed them because you're REFUSING TO FEED THEM.

You don't read anything about a "government shut down" in the U.S. Constitution.
Because it didn't exist.

Any services that were stopped were INTENTIONALLY STOPPED with the desired effect of causing chaos.

The police were still arresting people.
The prisoners in Federal prisons were still kept.
The payments of foreign aid continued to get issued out to other countries.

So what's with air traffic controllers not being paid and there not being enough money for food stamps?
It's all MADE UP.
They didn't "run out" of funds, they arbitrarily DENIED payments to these people for a desired effect and used Congressional disagreement as an EXCUSE.

I personally think they designed this situation to cause chaos and instability in society.

Kind of like how traffic lights and street lights will go out in an entire half of a major city and they'll blame it on a "solar flare".


Like you said and like we discussed in another thread, Democrats are just CONTROLLED opposition.
They're working right along with Republicans to get the same Agenda pushed and passed but just PRETENDING to oppose it and PRETENDING to put up a little resistance so that their supporters will continue to have a little more faith in them and not replace them with REAL opposition.
 

[ProfD]

13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

First of all, the fact that a national government can actually "shut down" or "close down" should make people suspicious that this is all just one big game.

So what's with air traffic controllers not being paid and there not being enough money for food stamps?
It's all MADE UP.
They didn't "run out" of funds, they arbitrarily DENIED payments to these people for a desired effect and used Congressional disagreement as an EXCUSE.

Beyond appropriations law and all that stuff taught in US Government classes...it is definitely a game.

 

13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Like you said and like we discussed in another thread, Democrats are just CONTROLLED opposition.
They're working right along with Republicans to get the same Agenda pushed and passed but just PRETENDING to oppose it and PRETENDING to put up a little resistance so that their supporters will continue to have a little more faith in them and not replace them with REAL opposition.

Right.  In order order to play most games, there must be at least two teams or opponents.

[aka Contrarian]

Life goes on. Utopia is a pipe dream yearned for by idealists. The strong will survive.

 

Bye-bye to a sign of the times. RIP. 

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, aka Contrarian said:

Life goes on. Utopia is a pipe dream yearned for by idealists. The strong will survive.

Absolutely.  We either adapt or die.  The latter is guaranteed. 

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

 

Beyond appropriations law and all that stuff taught in US Government classes...it is definitely a game.

 

When I was in highschool I was too busy chasing coochie (and wondering why it was so hard to catch up with) to pay attention in class...lol.  So don't pull a richardmurray on me and bless me out for know knowing all of the intricate details about how the government actually works.  However if the government is still funding the FBI and other policing agencies and those agencies are still operating, surveilling, and arresting people, then the government is NOT shut down....despite whatever the hell it's being "called".

If the government is still giving out BILLIONS of dollars to other nations in foreign aid DURING the alleged shut down, there is no excuse not to pay air traffic controllers and SNAP beneficiaries...except if they were INTENTIONALLY being targeted and denied payment for whatever reason.

If the government "shut down" for 40 days....how were the post offices able to operate?

What about the armed forces?

There is no such thing as a "government shut down".
It's just a MEME used to distract the public.
It's really INTENTIONAL NEGLECT of TARGETED institutions as a way of disrupting people's live to the point that they'll put pressure on their Representatives to cave to the demands of the opposition.

[ProfD]

1 minute ago, Pioneer1 said:

When I was in highschool I was too busy chasing coochie (and wondering why it was so hard to catch up with) to pay attention in class...lol.  So don't pull a richardmurray on me and bless me out for know knowing all of the intricate details about how the government actually works.

It is not my style here to call folks out.

 

1 minute ago, Pioneer1 said:

There is no such thing as a "government shut down".

Of course, the government continues the most essential services.  There are contingency funds for those things.

 

However, if/when there is a lapse in appropriations (no money), used to fund a fiscal year, the government shuts down non-essential services. 

 

That's why national parks, museums, museums and other federal facilities will close during a shutdown.  

 

The money that goes into SNAP benefits is included in the appropriation.  Without it, benefits cannot be paid. 

 

POTUS has to sign the budget (appropriations) every year by October 1st. 

 

If a budget or CR (Continuing Resolution) is not signed, there is a government shutdown.

 

That is your Cliff Notes US Government lesson.

 

 

[Pioneer1]

There is NO SUCH THING as the federal government "running out of money".

It's a red herring.

They're constantly printing up money, expanding their credit, extending the debt ceiling,  re-appropriating funds, and taking funds out of one account and putting in another or using funds designed for one program or department and appropriating it to another.

Leaders around the globe are LAUGHING at Americans for believing this garbage about the federal government being on a "budget" or "running out of money" because they KNOW better.
Because THEY'RE getting billions.

That's like you taking all of the money out of your right pocket...putting it in your left...and then pulling out the lining of your right pocket and claiming you're broke, lol.

 

 

See how asinine that sounds?

That's the SAME thing the government is doing.

 

[ProfD]

5 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

There is NO SUCH THING as the federal government "running out of money".

Right.  In the literal sense, the US government does not run out of money. 

 

However, there are laws for everything in the US including how money is appropriated. 

 

Read up on appropriations law if/when you are not chasing that snatchbox.