Is DEI still needed?

[richardmurray]

Economic Corner 19
While most in media focus on diversity/equity/inclusion or D.E.I.  as opportunities for non white heterosexual christian nondisabled males, doesn't D.E.I. threaten an oldest fiscal heritage in the U.S.A. of unwarranted advantages or unbounded allowances for white heterosexual christian nondisabled males in the financial arena? 

 

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, richardmurray said:

...doesn't D.E.I. threaten an oldest fiscal heritage in the U.S.A. of unwarranted advantages or unbounded allowances for white heterosexual christian nondisabled males in the financial arena? 

IMO, DEI was never a threat to those who have benefitted the most from privilege, advantages & allowances...white men.

 

White men have a monopoly on power & money that will only be overthrown by external forces &/or their own implosion.

 

DEI like anything else was used as an illusion of providing access to opportunities.

[richardmurray]

@ProfD 

On 2/23/2026 at 9:19 PM, ProfD said:

IMO, DEI was never a threat to those who have benefitted the most from privilege, advantages & allowances...white men.

 

White men have a monopoly on power & money that will only be overthrown by external forces &/or their own implosion.

 

DEI like anything else was used as an illusion of providing access to opportunities.

Right, even in DEI's height, most opportunities/advantages still went to white men. So, I ask the following after a preface. 

MY PREFACE

most white men today are complaining that they don't have the 99% level of opportunities/advantages that they had till the 1960s hit.  Their argument is that non whites/non males/ non christians or other groups opportunities /advantages are uneven. But that means their not merely arguing about having the majority, whether they admit it or not , they are arguing about not having it all.  And DEI to be blunt, does diminish their percentage of advantage or opportunity, it doesn't delete them having the majority, but their problem isn't in having the majority their problem is in others having anything at all. 

MY QUESTION

Doesn't DEI lessen the opportunities to white male hetero christians, even if it doesn't or can't lead to a diminishing of said white male opportunity/advantages into a minority place? 

IN AMENDMENT

You mention DEI being an illusion. I can't concur to that because I saw black people or non white male christian ~ who benefited from it. Was DEI through fiscal management or fiscal strategies? no. If by illusion you mean it wasn't something that was determined through the fiscal marketplace, I concur 100% to you. DEI was engined through media/social pressure/a set of elected officials trying to sate a voting base. DEI wasn't through the market place, so the moment, elected officials changes or social pressure lessened or the media made poisonous, DEI was in trouble of being maintained, and all three of said things happened. But it doesn't mean it is illusory. It isn't through the marketplace. But I must say what should be common knowledge, the problem in the usa with those who are not white male christians ~ is that all of their populaces have a heritage of financial absence based on the militaristic power of said white male chrsitians~ . To restate, I once spoke to a group of women, all business owners,  having a conference on womens business. I was invited by a female friend, who yes owns a business,  and I was offered the chance to speak. So I told the women the truth as a man. Male wealth doesn't come from education or hard work or any of the things they mentioned they needed to do.. It comes from cheating, it comes from abusing, it comes from legal crimes, enslaving people legally. So women trying to improve the financial condition of women will need that same reality. And I mentioned rockefeller center. The elder rockefeller wasn't a genius, didn't have some grand schooling. Didn't have a rich uncle to help him. But the elder rockefeller knew how to cheat, was in an environment where he could cheat, white male law enforcement has always allowed white males various criminal fiscal activity legal or not. Women don't have that. But if women are willing to cheat or scheme they will find the same financial levels as men. But if women think they can follow the law and have some complex financial plan. I told them , I know of many black business owners, all very nice people, none of the them broke the law, all of them have struggled and worked hard every day and none of them ever got to the great halls of money. 

The point in that retelling is, black fiscal wealth, female fiscal wealth, muslim fiscal wealth, indigenous fiscal wealth, any group in the usa not white male christian heterosexual ~  in the usa is temporally behind said white male ~ wealth, none of them can recover lost time through the rules or what schemes somebody suggested will work. Now some will always mention the white jew. But as I have said in this very forum, I was unwilling to search for the post for I am pressed for time, the white jewish populace is very small. And financially you can't relate the jewish populace in the usa which is maximum seven million people with white german american/circa forty million, black americans[dos +modern immigrant]/fifty two million, female americans/one hundred and sixty seven million. The global jewish population is fifteen million people:) Why do so many people speak of the jewish population as an example of anything? unless they plan on killing most of their people to be so small in populace? And no, the white jewish model can't work for larger populaces. The poor white trash who are mostly german americans are in a populace that has a six hundred percent larger need of resources. The black american populace so many including other blacks call lazy or in need of better thinking or some negative has a seven hundred percent larger need of resources. And I don't have to explain how much black wealth has been undermined by whites in the usa i hope. People talk about Tulsa but how much generational wealth has literally been destroyed by white terror in the usa. Is their a financial way to calculate that lose? i don't really know.  By the following website. 

https://dqydj.com/income-by-race/

a third of a million black people make sixty thousand or more in the usa today. So that isn't bad. Remember, we are still an abused peoples by whites, even today. yes, their are more opportunities today but when you consider, all the black towns in the former confederate are in financially restrictive places, and said black people in towns have no where to go. Their are issues financially, that must be considered with black people in the usa, that whites, even if jewish don't have in 2026. 

Based on whitey as well

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/05/11/economics-and-well-being-among-u-s-jews/

circa twenty six percent of white jews, who are simply white people of the jewish faith,  have fifty to one hundred thousand, dollars  Twenty five percent of seven million is, one million, and seven hundred and fifty thousand and this is from a white jewish populace that has never been denied business ownership, not merely in the usa but in the european countries that made the usa, has always been in the halls of money through banking, which offers them alot of connections that white abused minorities like the romani of europe/the gypsies never had. So I argue, in fifty years  with hard work and accepting white abuse with a smile, the black wealthy in the usa will be as large in populace as the white jew in total, but that doesn't mean that the entire black populace in the usa can be wealthy absent access to slavery/genocide/or similar negative acts as tools of financial betterment. 

[ProfD]

7 hours ago, richardmurray said:

MY PREFACE

most white men today are complaining that they don't have the 99% level of opportunities/advantages that they had till the 1960s hit. 

 

...but their problem isn't in having the majority their problem is in others having anything at all. 

Those white men need to take that issue up with the rich & powerful white men who put DEI in place.

 

7 hours ago, richardmurray said:

MY QUESTION

Doesn't DEI lessen the opportunities to white male hetero christians, even if it doesn't or can't lead to a diminishing of said white male opportunity/advantages into a minority place? 

Again...no.

 

DEI prevents white men from having it all but it doesn't put a dent in their privilege, advantages & allowances.

 

7 hours ago, richardmurray said:

If by illusion you mean it wasn't something that was determined through the fiscal marketplace, I concur 100% to you. DEI was engined through media/social pressure/a set of elected officials trying to sate a voting base.

Correct. 

 

7 hours ago, richardmurray said:

DEI wasn't through the market place, so the moment, elected officials changes or social pressure lessened or the media made poisonous, DEI was in trouble of being maintained, and all three of said things happened. But it doesn't mean it is illusory.

DEI exists but it is illusory in terms of undermining white men.

7 hours ago, richardmurray said:

Now some will always mention the white jew.

 

The global jewish population is fifteen million people:)

 

Why do so many people speak of the jewish population as an example of anything?

 

And no, the white jewish model can't work for larger populaces.

Fifteen million Jews is 2X the population of NYC. 

 

Those fifteen million Jews would fill almost 15 of the least populous states in the USA.

 

Beyond money, Jews have a level of protection that isn't extended to other groups of people.

 

Black folks do not have a similar level of investment & protection at the rate our people are oppressed, slandered, hurt &/or killled.

 

Black folks do not have the equivalent of an Anti-Defamation League, B'nai B'rith or Jewish Defense League.

 

That's part of the reason Jews are mentioned. They have benefited exponentially since their holocaust.