Okay he is really speaking in French.....this a English translation - so we all communication in the language of our oppressors

Captain Ibrahim Traoré's Powerful July 16, 2026 Address | Full Speech

I don't trust him.

Nor I do I "distrust" him.

I'm neutral on him as of now.



There are certain things about him that make me not trust him; for examples......

1. While it's good that he drove the French out, it seems as if he's invited the Russians in.

2. Every nation needs a powerful military, however to hold the military title "Captain" and walk around in a military uniform all the time as well as be surrounded by well armed men....seems to give the impression that your government should be ran by the military.
He got into power from a coup. Him and his men used violence to overthrow the former head of state.

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I don't trust him.

As you should

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Nor I do I "distrust" him.

fair enough

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I'm neutral on him as of now.

fair

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

There are certain things about him that make me not trust him; for examples......

1. While it's good that he drove the French out,

Yes....that is one of the reasons I trust him

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

it seems as if he's invited the Russians in.

Yes it does seems so

Let me let Nelson answer that.....

https://youtube.com/shorts/5zil0OBpYyQ?si=srqT_KWB2OVXKAMa

Your Enemies Are Not Our Enemies" - Nelson Mandela

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

2. Every nation needs a powerful military, however to hold the military title "Captain" and walk around in a military uniform all the time as well as be surrounded by well armed men....seems to give the impression that your government should be ran by the military.

He is an actual Captain in the Military of Burkina Faso.....

So yes the Military is in Charge.....

Yes he did overthrow the previous Administration.....that previous Administration also did overthrow the Democratically elected Administration that was previous to them

.

frankster

Yes it does seems so

Let me let Nelson answer that.....

True

I think Mr. Mandela was a wise man and right.

However just like YOUR enemy isn't necessarily MY enemy, the enemy of YOUR enemy isn't necessarily MY friend or ally either.

At one time the United States, England, and France were all enemies....but they all got together to gang up on Haiti.

To align himself and his nation with Russia in my opinion would be a mistake for 2 reasons:

1. Russia is still a White nation...like France.

Infact, it's Whiter than France with a very tiny Black population. So what makes him think that the Russians or the Russian government are any less racist?

History has shown that Whites....despite any of their own differences....tend to work together against people of color.

2. Both Cuba and Iran as well as Syria aligned themselves with Russia for military purposes, and look where THEY are right now.

If I were an African nation, I'd do my best to align myself with the United States OR Israel.

Not that these nations are the most righteous....but because they have proven to be the more powerful and most loyal when it comes to needing a military alliance.

Just now, Pioneer1 said:

frankster

Yes it does seems so

Let me let Nelson answer that.....

True

I think Mr. Mandela was a wise man and right.

He is

Just now, Pioneer1 said:

However just like YOUR enemy isn't necessarily MY enemy, the enemy of YOUR enemy isn't necessarily MY friend or ally either.

True

Just now, Pioneer1 said:

At one time the United States, England, and France were all enemies....but they all got together to gang up on Haiti.

Russia was not among them...was they?

Just now, Pioneer1 said:

To align himself and his nation with Russia in my opinion would be a mistake for 2 reasons:

1. Russia is still a White nation...like France.

True

Just now, Pioneer1 said:

Infact, it's Whiter than France with a very tiny Black population. So what makes him think that the Russians or the Russian government are any less racist?

They were never directly involved in the Slave trade Colonialism Neo-colonialism Imperialism the Enslaved of Black Africans nor did they openly support racism or practice politically as Policy

Just now, Pioneer1 said:

History has shown that Whites....despite any of their own differences....tend to work together against people of color.

This cannot be said of Russia since the Communist Revolution.

Just now, Pioneer1 said:

2. Both Cuba and Iran as well as Syria aligned themselves with Russia for military purposes, and look where THEY are right now.

True

So did China.....look where they are now

If I were an African nation, I'd do my best to align myself with the United States OR Israel.

Just now, Pioneer1 said:

If I were an African nation, I'd do my best to align myself with the United States OR Israel.

At what cost??

The West has an unwritten policy not to share technology with African Countries.......they see African Countries as a Resource of Raw Material

As such any form of Development is seen as a threat to this View......Hence the West tend to Impoverish and Underdeveloped African countries back to Stone Age

Just now, Pioneer1 said:

Not that these nations are the most righteous....but because they have proven to be the more powerful and most loyal when it comes to needing a military alliance.

Burkina Faso had military agreements with the West....to quell and defeat extremist forms of Islamic Terrorism - until they uncovered incontrovertibly evidence that the West was supplying the terrorists.

frankster

Russia was not among them...was they?

They belong to the same criminal family.

The only reasons Russia wasn't out colonizing nations of color like her British, French, and Spanish brethren is because:

1. Their nation was more landlocked and didn't have as much access to the Atlantic Ocean.
2. Being Slavic....they also faced oppression from their Teutonic fellow Caucasians.

Also an argument can be made that Russia wasn't colonized by Africans like France and Spain were at one time, so they didn't develop the hatred and disdain and strong desire to conquer them.

They were never directly involved in the Slave trade Colonialism Neo-colonialism Imperialism the Enslaved of Black Africans nor did they openly support racism or practice politically as Policy

Neither was Germany, yet they are some of the most unapologetically racist devils on the planet.

They are not only anti-Black, they are anti OTHER White folks who they feel aren't "white" enough....lol.

This cannot be said of Russia since the Communist Revolution.

How do we know that Russia and other Whites are NOT working together to oppress people of color?

What nation of color have they defended against White aggression?

True

So did China.....look where they are now

China is a military superpower because of THEMSELVES, not any dealings with Russia.

They don't rely on Russia or any other nation for military support.

They may make deals with Russia.

The United States makes DEALS with Russia....lol.

But they don't rely on Russia to help them or bolster their military.

They know better.

At what cost??

The cost of one's pride.

All of the propaganda about America and Israel being the biggest enemies on the planet and are so oppressive and racist; meanwhile Russia and the Arab nations have SHOWN themselves to not only racist towards Black people but also disloyal to them and to eachother.

They won't even help out eachother.

Look how most of them are siding with America against Iran.

The West has an unwritten policy not to share technology with African Countries.......they see African Countries as a Resource of Raw Material

True.

Is Russia sharing USEFUL technology with African nations?

I'm not talking about teaching them a few bogus tricks and sending them some worthless gadgets designed to fail when you need them most.

I mean true advanced technology that they could actually use to protect themselves against Western aggression?

As such any form of Development is seen as a threat to this View......Hence the West tend to Impoverish and Underdeveloped African countries back to Stone Age

Funny how this policy hasn't worked to under develop Japan, or South Korea who are also people of color.

Dubai, Qatar, and Kuwait also have aligned themselves with the West and are building major cities and have advanced weaponry.

Seems to me that those who align themselves with the United States seem to do better than those who align themselves with Russia.

51 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

ProfD

Russia was not among them...was they?

That quote belongs to brotha frankster.

Black countries already know what dealing with the devil that is the West entails.

A country only needs military protection if they have resources that another country wants & is willing to invade to obtain.

Like a pimp & prostitute, countries Being protected by a superpower becomes a b8tch to them.

As mentioned above, white countires offer a lopsided deal where they extract resources from African countries for peanuts & impoverish them.

African countries are dealing with a different pimp in the East whether it's Russia or China.

There is a possibility the Global South (Africa, Latin America, Asia, etc.), could work together to get away from the West. Remains to be seen.

I applaud the moves Burkina Faso leader Ibrahim Traore is making to distance his country from France. Hopefully, he knows what he's doing with the Russians.😎

6 hours ago, ProfD said:

That quote belongs to brotha frankster.

My bad.
That was suppose to be his name up there instead of yours.
Maybe it was a subconscious move to pull you into the conversation....lol.

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

My bad.
That was suppose to be his name up there instead of yours.
Maybe it was a subconscious move to pull you into the conversation....lol.

It's all good.

You already know I was would add my 2 cents to the conversation eventually.😁😎

19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

frankster

Russia was not among them...was they?

They belong to the same criminal family.

The only reasons Russia wasn't out colonizing nations of color like her British, French, and Spanish brethren is because:

1. Their nation was more landlocked and didn't have as much access to the Atlantic Ocean.
2. Being Slavic....they also faced oppression from their Teutonic fellow Caucasians.

Also an argument can be made that Russia wasn't colonized by Africans like France and Spain were at one time, so they didn't develop the hatred and disdain and strong desire to conquer them.

True....

They have even wanted to.....but they did not or was unable to

The fact is....they were not colonizing African countries....

19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

They were never directly involved in the Slave trade Colonialism Neo-colonialism Imperialism the Enslaved of Black Africans nor did they openly support racism or practice politically as Policy

Neither was Germany, yet they are some of the most unapologetically racist devils on the planet.

They are not only anti-Black, they are anti OTHER White folks who they feel aren't "white" enough....lol.

Germany was directly involve in Colonization and the Enslaved of several African peoples and countries .....Tanzania Rwanda Burundi Togoland and Cameroon

Namibia is where they first develop practice of Concentration camps and Genocide

19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

This cannot be said of Russia since the Communist Revolution.

How do we know that Russia and other Whites are NOT working together to oppress people of color?

What nation of color have they defended against White aggression?

Through out the history of Western Oppression and Colonization of African Peoples and Cultures.....

Russia stands out as the singular European Nation that is and was the most and the side of the oppress and down trodden....

19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

True

So did China.....look where they are now

China is a military superpower because of THEMSELVES, not any dealings with Russia.

They don't rely on Russia or any other nation for military support.

There would be no China without Russia sharing Industrial and Military Technology...

19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

They may make deals with Russia.

The United States makes DEALS with Russia....lol.

But they don't rely on Russia to help them or bolster their military.

They know better.

Not the same....

check your history....

China was almost totally dependent on Russia in the 1940's-60's....for military and industrial tech

The West refuse to work or trade with china until the late 60's onwards

19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

At what cost??

The cost of one's pride.

All of the propaganda about America and Israel being the biggest enemies on the planet and are so oppressive and racist; meanwhile Russia and the Arab nations have SHOWN themselves to not only racist towards Black people but also disloyal to them and to eachother.

The cost of working with the West is to remain a Pariah and a Beggar state....

Everybody is Racist toward.....Blacks - Even Blacks

19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

They won't even help out eachother.

Do you understand the concept of Geopolitics.....if you did then you would understand why that is.

19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Look how most of them are siding with America against Iran.

There is no doubt America.....is the most Powerful Country in the world - by far

All countries have to be very careful once they decide to oppose America in any way.....

19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

The West has an unwritten policy not to share technology with African Countries.......they see African Countries as a Resource of Raw Material

True.

Is Russia sharing USEFUL technology with African nations?

Not that I know of.....

19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I'm not talking about teaching them a few bogus tricks and sending them some worthless gadgets designed to fail when you need them most.

I mean true advanced technology that they could actually use to protect themselves against Western aggression?

Every Nation have Rules Requirements and Regulations around sharing technology.....

The two primary ones are:

1. The Stability and Endurance of the Governing Administration.

2. The Ability to Retrieve or Destroy the Technology should the Administration fall

19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

As such any form of Development is seen as a threat to this View......Hence the West tend to Impoverish and Underdeveloped African countries back to Stone Age

Funny how this policy hasn't worked to under develop Japan, or South Korea who are also people of color.

Again this is History.....Meiji Era of Japan

Japan was helped to Industrialize militarily by both the British and the Americans under the understanding that would weaken China by entering into open warfare with China.

So that West could gain access to China's vast opium market.

South Korea is the same it is being used to slow China's growth....in exchange for industrialization and Technology

19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Dubai, Qatar, and Kuwait also have aligned themselves with the West and are building major cities and have advanced weaponry.

Seems to me that those who align themselves with the United States seem to do better than those who align themselves with Russia.

They do.......It does seem that way

19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

frankster

I stand corrected on Germany's history of colonizing Africa.

I'm not educated enough on the history of China and Russia to argue your points one way or another.
I can say that the Honorable Elijah Muhammad said,

"The devil is the devil
Regardless as to place or time"

Meaning it doesn't matter what region or nation White folks come from.
What language they speak.
What religion they practice.
Whether they grew up ruling or being oppressed themselves.
What they did in the past or what year it is today.
....their general mentality is to conquer and dominate people of color, including Black people.

Why you or anyone else believes that Russians would be any different is beyond me....lol.

Go to any major city in Russia and you'll see neo-nazis and skinheads kicking it in the parks and other common areas and many of them will harass minorities.
Are we to believe the government doesn't reflect the general attitude of it's citizens?

Well Pioneer, is America and Israel any better?

I would say YES.

Not much better, but still a LITTLE better because atleast Black people are in positions of power and authority in both the United States and Israel.

We aren't RUNNING the United States or Israel....lol.

But we are in positions of power in both nations from law enforcement, to the military, all the way up to the government.

So we do have SOME say so in how the government treats not only it's own citizens but how it conducts business abroad.

Ain't NO Black folks in any position of power or authority in Russia OR China...lol.

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Ain't NO Black folks in any position of power or authority in Russia OR China...lol.

Right. At less than 1% of the population in those countries, it is understandable that Black folks have zero power &/or influence there.

The Black folks who show up in predominantly white or Asian countries already know they don't have any power or influence in those countries.

If Black folks throughout the planet were to unite, we could be a force. For a number of reasons, that's not going to happen in this lifetime. 😎

39 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

frankster

I stand corrected on Germany's history of colonizing Africa.

Thank you

39 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

I'm not educated enough on the history of China and Russia to argue your points one way or another.

Neither am I

but I do know China was heavily dependent on Russia....immediately after WWII

39 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

I can say that the Honorable Elijah Muhammad said,

"The devil is the devil
Regardless as to place or time"

True

39 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Meaning it doesn't matter what region or nation White folks come from.
What language they speak.
What religion they practice.
Whether they grew up ruling or being oppressed themselves.
What they did in the past or what year it is today.
....their general mentality is to conquer and dominate people of color, including Black people.

Their wanting to or domination of black people is a symptom.....not a causative

They have been trying to dominate each other long before they tried to or did dominate Black peoples

39 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Why you or anyone else believes that Russians would be any different is beyond me....lol.

They are not different.....people are basically the same - be they white black or yellow

Why is this so.....because we are all human

39 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Go to any major city in Russia and you'll see neo-nazis and skinheads kicking it in the parks and other common areas and many of them will harass minorities.

This is true

39 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Are we to believe the government doesn't reflect the general attitude of it's citizens?

I Cannot speak for the individual members of the Russian Government....

But nowhere in their political ideology does it support any form of Racism....if anything the opposite is and has always been true.

39 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Well Pioneer, is America and Israel any better?

I would say YES.

Not much better, but still a LITTLE better because atleast Black people are in positions of power and authority in both the United States and Israel.

I do not disagree....

Being in positions of power looks good but often its used to pacify the oppress and further oppression .....take for instance Clarence Thomas

Malcolm X : Token Integration.

“Tokenism benefits only a few. It never benefits the masses, and the masses are the ones who have the problem, not the few. That one who benefits from tokenism, he doesn’t want to be around us anyway—that’s why he picks up on the token”

― Malcolm X

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/tokenism

39 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

We aren't RUNNING the United States or Israel....lol.

But we are in positions of power in both nations from law enforcement, to the military, all the way up to the government.

So we do have SOME say so in how the government treats not only it's own citizens but how it conducts business abroad.

True

And when you are called upon to do your duty to God and Country to crush kill and destroy a fledgling freedom struggle in a poor African country.....what then @Pioneer1 ?

39 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Ain't NO Black folks in any position of power or authority in Russia OR China...lol.

True

Yet so far ....they seem to be dealing fairly and sharing tech.

2 minutes ago, ProfD said:

Right. At less than 1% of the population in those countries, it is understandable that Black folks have zero power &/or influence there.

true

2 minutes ago, ProfD said:

The Black folks who show up in predominantly white or Asian countries already know they don't have any power or influence in those countries.

true

2 minutes ago, ProfD said:

If Black folks throughout the planet were to unite, we could be a force.

true

2 minutes ago, ProfD said:

For a number of reasons, that's not going to happen in this lifetime. 😎

not sure

ProfD

If Black folks throughout the planet were to unite, we could be a force.

LOL....true, so why don't we?

For a number of reasons, that's not going to happen in this lifetime.

Don't hold back bro, GET INTO the reasons why....lol.

I know one major reason....but you'll probably leave THAT one out.

frankster

Thank you

You're quite welcome.

Their wanting to or domination of black people is a symptom.....not a causative

True.

One of the causes is their inherent feeling of physical and emotional inferiority.

Another cause is their inherent feeling of mental superiority.

They have been trying to dominate each other long before they tried to or did dominate Black peoples

In sports, we call that SCRIMAGING...lol.
Just practicing on eachother before getting down to the real business of world domination.

They are not different.....people are basically the same - be they white black or yellow

Why is this so.....because we are all human

Humans are CLEARLY different.

If this isn't so, then show me where Africans have RECENTLY colonized Europe or have economic control over it.

Show me where Africans or Chinese have enslaved Whites and bred them like animals for hundreds of years.

If humans are all the same, then whatever one race has done to another.....you should see evidence of them reversing roles from time to time.

But nowhere in their political ideology does it support any form of Racism....if anything the opposite is and has always been true.

Because it's a given.

It's so clearly and universally (in Russia) understood that there is no need to waste time and paper with statements on it.

You don't see anywhere in the U.S. Constitution where polygamy or gay marriage is permitted either.

Because those practices were so far beyond the norms of those who established this nation that they didn't feel the need to waste time stating the obvious: these things aren't permitted.

Thanks for the Malcolm X clip.

I love listening to the brother.

He can drop so much science in such a clear and concise way in such a short period of time.

Malcolm will drop more common sense truth in 5 minutes than so many of the modern "leaders" will say all year.

You can actually feel your mind clearing up.

And when you are called upon to do your duty to God and Country to crush kill and destroy a fledgling freedom struggle in a poor African country.....what then @Pioneer1 ?

What would "I" do personally?

I know exactly what I'd do, but I wouldn't say it publicly...lol.

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

ProfD

If Black folks throughout the planet were to unite, we could be a force.

LOL....true, so why don't we?

For a number of reasons, that's not going to happen in this lifetime.

Don't hold back bro, GET INTO the reasons why....lol.

I know one major reason....but you'll probably leave THAT one out.

Black people are divided into too many tribes. Too much like herding cats.🤣😎

20 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

frankster

Their wanting to or domination of black people is a symptom.....not a causative

True.

One of the causes is their inherent feeling of physical and emotional inferiority.

Another cause is their inherent feeling of mental superiority.

I think that is true......of most Human Beings - regardless of so called Race and or Ethnicity

20 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

They have been trying to dominate each other long before they tried to or did dominate Black peoples

In sports, we call that SCRIMAGING...lol.
Just practicing on eachother before getting down to the real business of world domination.

Again part of the Human Condition....You may call it scrimmaging - I see it as internal power struggle.

The internal power struggle was and is real

20 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

They are not different.....people are basically the same - be they white black or yellow

Why is this so.....because we are all human

Humans are CLEARLY different.

Yes...but they still humans

20 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

If this isn't so, then show me where Africans have RECENTLY colonized Europe or have economic control over it.

Study your History.....especially of the Moors

20 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Show me where Africans or Chinese have enslaved Whites and bred them like animals for hundreds of years.

Study History......of the Barbary Coast

20 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

If humans are all the same, then whatever one race has done to another.....you should see evidence of them reversing roles from time to time.

That is true....and it is so

20 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

But nowhere in their political ideology does it support any form of Racism....if anything the opposite is and has always been true.

Because it's a given.

It's so clearly and universally (in Russia) understood that there is no need to waste time and paper with statements on it.

Nearly all Slave holding Nations have it enshrined and encoded in Laws Statutes and Ordinances both abroad and at home...Some even in their Constitution.

20 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

You don't see anywhere in the U.S. Constitution where polygamy or gay marriage is permitted either.

I do see where Slave holding was permitted supported and encoded in Laws and in the US Constitution.

As to Polygamy and Gay marriage.....various states and provinces in the US had them either Decriminalized or Legalized at different periods of time.

20 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Because those practices were so far beyond the norms of those who established this nation that they didn't feel the need to waste time stating the obvious: these things aren't permitted.

Totally false and inaccurate.....you just typing pure unadulterated falsities.

They found the time to forbid them in Law Statues Ordinances and Constitutionally

20 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Thanks for the Malcolm X clip.

I love listening to the brother.

He can drop so much science in such a clear and concise way in such a short period of time.

That's because he studied the subject before he speaks on a topic

20 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Malcolm will drop more common sense truth in 5 minutes than so many of the modern "leaders" will say all year.

You can actually feel your mind clearing up.

That's because he is Eloquent ant Articulate

20 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

And when you are called upon to do your duty to God and Country to crush kill and destroy a fledgling freedom struggle in a poor African country.....what then @Pioneer1 ?

What would "I" do personally?

I know exactly what I'd do, but I wouldn't say it publicly...lol.

Of course you would do your duty.....

General Micheal Langley faced the same delimma.....he did his duty.

On 7/29/2026 at 11:37 PM, ProfD said:

Black people are divided into too many tribes. Too much like herding cats.🤣😎

The problem is how we See and Define Unity

Most of us confuse Unity with Conformity

frankster

I think that is true......of most Human Beings - regardless of so called Race and or Ethnicity

That statement is conflictingly true.

It's true of most human beings today...BUT...most human beings are people of color.

Again part of the Human Condition....You may call it scrimmaging - I see it as internal power struggle.

The internal power struggle was and is real

It's real, but it's carried out in different degrees depending on the conflict.

Generally speaking, Caucasians inflict way more casualties in the conflicts they have with non-Whites than those they practice among eachother.

Study your History.....especially of the Moors

I figure you'd try to bring them up.....lol...which is why I asked for a RECENT example.

The Moors conquered Europe well over a thousand years ago.
Hannibal and his men conquered much of Europe THOUSANDS of years ago.

I'm asking you for a recent example of African civilizations conquering or controlling Europe or any other non-African civilization.

Totally false and inaccurate.....you just typing pure unadulterated falsities.

They found the time to forbid them in Law Statues Ordinances and Constitutionally

My example was specifically of the founders of the United States and the Constitution, not recent laws and statutes.

Of course you would do your duty.....

I'd absolutely do my duty....to my CREATOR.

ProfD & frankster

Black people CAN be united, but it has to be on tangible subjects and not abstract ideology like "honor" and "respect" and "valor".

....empty rhetorical words that Caucasian leaders often put out for their communities to rally around.

Promise Black men some coochie, or money, or in some cases dope, or some other tangible asset and watch them UNITE and take care of business.

5 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Black people CAN be united, but it has to be on tangible subjects and not abstract ideology like "honor" and "respect" and "valor".

Black people aren't a monolith. The various tribes have to be rounded up & represented before we can even get into offering tangible benefits to them.😎

5 minutes ago, ProfD said:

Black people aren't a monolith. The various tribes have to be rounded up & represented before we can even get into offering tangible benefits to them.😎

There are certain things nearly ALL Black men desire, regardless of tribe or religion.

What religion do Black men belong to where they don't want money?
What "tribe" is it, where the Black men there don't want plenty of women for sex?

We need to rally around things we naturally all desire.

The problem isn't the desire, the problem is too many Black people allow non-Black people and THEIR morals, ethics, and ideologies influence OUR natural desires.

Fuck what other men want and believe in, let's rally around what WE want and naturally believe in.

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

There are certain things nearly ALL Black men desire, regardless of tribe or religion.

We need to rally around things we naturally all desire.

The problem isn't the desire, the problem is too many Black people allow non-Black people and THEIR morals, ethics, and ideologies influence OUR natural desires.

We have to consider the needs of Black women & Black children too.

Black men having more access to money & s8x isn't going to unite Black people.😁😎

ProfD

We have to consider the needs of Black women & Black children too.

Black men having more access to money & s8x isn't going to unite Black people.

That's a given.

Much if not most of what most men over 30 do is for women and children anyway, lol.

But it's the men who set the tone for the rest of the community.

If the men are disorganized or not motivated to take action, the rest of the community suffers and fails.

Black men having more access to money and sex will promote Black unity because there will be less desperation, more satisfaction, and fewer Black men fighting over resources -because they will be more plentiful.

It won't solve all problems, but it will solve a lot of them.

Ofcourse there will be a lot of Black people....usually the religious type....who will be AGAINST Black men having more sex and money because it contradicts the religious beliefs that were given to them by Caucasians (European or Arab).

Just now, Pioneer1 said:

frankster

I think that is true......of most Human Beings - regardless of so called Race and or Ethnicity

That statement is conflictingly true.

It's true of most human beings today...BUT...most human beings are people of color.

I also said "regardless" of race.....so the statements includes all colors.

Just now, Pioneer1 said:

Again part of the Human Condition....You may call it scrimmaging - I see it as internal power struggle.

The internal power struggle was and is real

It's real, but it's carried out in different degrees depending on the conflict.

Sure..

Just now, Pioneer1 said:

Generally speaking, Caucasians inflict way more casualties in the conflicts they have with non-Whites than those they practice among eachother.

WWI & WWII makes that statement inaccurate.

Just now, Pioneer1 said:

Study your History.....especially of the Moors

I figure you'd try to bring them up.....lol...which is why I asked for a RECENT example.

The Moors conquered Europe well over a thousand years ago.
Hannibal and his men conquered much of Europe THOUSANDS of years ago.

I'm asking you for a recent example of African civilizations conquering or controlling Europe or any other non-African civilization.

Yes....That is the most recent Example I can find

Just now, Pioneer1 said:

Totally false and inaccurate.....you just typing pure unadulterated falsities.

They found the time to forbid them in Law Statues Ordinances and Constitutionally

My example was specifically of the founders of the United States and the Constitution, not recent laws and statutes.

My Statement is that the US Constitution supports the Enslavement of Humans from its inception.

The Founders of The USSR and The Russian Federation forbade The Enslavement of Human from their Inception

Just now, Pioneer1 said:

Of course you would do your duty.....

I'd absolutely do my duty....to my CREATOR.

Of course you would......just like Clarence Thomas is Doing

Just now, Pioneer1 said:

ProfD & frankster

Black people CAN be united, but it has to be on tangible subjects and not abstract ideology like "honor" and "respect" and "valor".

....empty rhetorical words that Caucasian leaders often put out for their communities to rally around.

Promise Black men some coochie, or money, or in some cases dope, or some other tangible asset and watch them UNITE and take care of business.

so that maybe true of people who think like you

I See Ibrahim Traore is doing the opposite....

Just now, Pioneer1 said:

There are certain things nearly ALL Black men desire, regardless of tribe or religion.

What religion do Black men belong to where they don't want money?
What "tribe" is it, where the Black men there don't want plenty of women for sex?

You obviously did take the time to listen to or observe what Traore has done and is doing

Just now, Pioneer1 said:

We need to rally around things we naturally all desire.

True...

What do you think that is?

Just now, Pioneer1 said:

The problem isn't the desire, the problem is too many Black people allow non-Black people and THEIR morals, ethics, and ideologies influence OUR natural desires.

Fuck what other men want and believe in, let's rally around what WE want and naturally believe in.

That which is strike through sounds like empty rhetoric....

The rest that is not strike through is what Traore is saying and I support that.....

So Why aren't you rallying around Traore?

Just now, ProfD said:

Black people aren't a monolith. The various tribes have to be rounded up & represented before we can even get into offering tangible benefits to them.😎

That's not necessarily the best way.....

The easy most productive way in my opinion is to.....Give support to those who are doing the Right Thing

Just now, ProfD said:

We have to consider the needs of Black women & Black children too.

I do not see a significant amount of difference between the Needs of Black members women a children...

When it comes to wants....then yes that maybe more

Just now, ProfD said:

Black men having more access to money & s8x isn't going to unite Black people.😁😎

Depends on what is used for and done for....

Just now, Pioneer1 said:

ProfD

We have to consider the needs of Black women & Black children too.

Black men having more access to money & s8x isn't going to unite Black people.

That's a given.

Much if not most of what most men over 30 do is for women and children anyway, lol.

I can agree with that

Just now, Pioneer1 said:

But it's the men who set the tone for the rest of the community.

If the men are disorganized or not motivated to take action, the rest of the community suffers and fails.

yes in most respects

Just now, Pioneer1 said:

Black men having more access to money and sex will promote Black unity because there will be less desperation, more satisfaction, and fewer Black men fighting over resources -because they will be more plentiful.

It won't solve all problems, but it will solve a lot of them.

not necessarily true

Just now, Pioneer1 said:

Ofcourse there will be a lot of Black people....usually the religious type....who will be AGAINST Black men having more sex and money because it contradicts the religious beliefs that were given to them by Caucasians (European or Arab).

Somewhat accurate

frankster

I also said "regardless" of race.....so the statements includes all colors.

But "all colors" don't suffer from low self esteem.

Nor do "all colors" suffer from a physical inferiority complex.

WWI & WWII makes that statement inaccurate.

More Black people were killed by Europeans in the Great Ma'afa ALONE, than all of the White people in WW1 and WW2 combined.

And we won't even get into the hundreds of millions killed in the Native American genocide or the millions killed in the East African Arab slave trade.

So no, Whites tend to kill way more people of color....historically speaking.

Yes....That is the most recent Example I can find

If you can't find any more recent than that, they may as well not be examples...lol.

A homeless man who was born into a rich family can't use the fact that he used to take summer vacations on the French Riviera AS A CHILD, as examples of him being rich TODAY...lol.

That was then.

Today you find White people ruling over Black people.

You can't say this is common among "all races" and "all colors" unless you can show me recent modern examples of Black people ruling over Whites as well.

Of course you would......just like Clarence Thomas is Doing

My Duty is to GOD/CREATOR

I'm not sure who Justice Thomas' duty is to....lol.

so that maybe true of people who think like you

I think like a man.

So yes, this is true of most MEN.

...can't speak for women or homosexuals.

I See Ibrahim Traore is doing the opposite....

I'm not in Burkina Faso so I don't know what he's really doing over there.

And I doubt you do either, lol.

Your information is limited by what you're scanning and skimming through on the internet.

What do you think that is?

Lol...if you're a man, you should already know.

That which is strike through sounds like empty rhetoric....

That illustrates your lack of understanding of how so many of our people have been brainwashed and indoctrinated into accepting the ideology and ethics of their oppressor.

So Why aren't you rallying around Traore?

For the reasons I've already given above.

Namely......
Africans shouldn't be so geeked up and happy to exchange a French slave master with a Russian one; any more than they should be to exchange a British slave master with an Arab one.

not necessarily true

Not necessarily true, but true for the most part.

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

But it's the men who set the tone for the rest of the community.

If the men are disorganized or not motivated to take action, the rest of the community suffers and fails.

Agreed.

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Black men having more access to money and sex will promote Black unity because there will be less desperation, more satisfaction, and fewer Black men fighting over resources -because they will be more plentiful.

It won't solve all problems, but it will solve a lot of them.

I guess the b8ssy brigade will have to be round up & quarantined.🤣

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Ofcourse there will be a lot of Black people....usually the religious type....who will be AGAINST Black men having more sex and money because it contradicts the religious beliefs that were given to them by Caucasians (European or Arab).

The religious types who are off code will have to be round up & quarantined too.😁

1 hour ago, frankster said:

That's not necessarily the best way.....

The easy most productive way in my opinion is to.....Give support to those who are doing the Right Thing

That's great but the Black tribes that aren't being supported could be a liability to unity.😎

ProfD

I guess the b8ssy brigade will have to be round up & quarantined.

A lot of the bussy-boppers are dysfunctional dudes who's minds have been turned out as a result of not being able to handle their personal situation OF not getting any coochie or money.

Not being able to attract women or money makes them feel inadequate as men, so they begin acting like women as a subconscious way of surrendering their manhood.

If Black men...as a whole...are getting women and wealth in the numbers that we SHOULD be getting, I guarantee that the number of flamboyant homosexuals will dissolve and diminish down to a minimum.

The religious types who are off code will have to be round up & quarantined too.

Similar to the flamboyant homosexual, being extremely religious is often a way people use to deal with suffering from poverty and other problems in life they feel they have no solutions for.

If you notice, religious extremism thrives in communities with either a lot of poverty, a lot of violence, or both.

Solve their social problems, and religious extremism dissolves.

That's great but the Black tribes that aren't being supported could be a liability to unity

Pay attention to the United States.

People come here fiercely loyal to their nationalities and tribes, but after 10 or 15 years they tend to put their culture on the back burner and focus on making as much money and enjoying as much of the American life as they can.

The most tribalism you'll get out of them is a national flag in the rearview mirror....lol.

That's a Puerto Rican flag, but from the looks of those houses....that doesn't look like Puerto Rico, lol.

Making money and enjoying the luxuries of life has a way of dissolving tribalism, lol.

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

frankster

I also said "regardless" of race.....so the statements includes all colors.

But "all colors" don't suffer from low self esteem.

Nor do "all colors" suffer from a physical inferiority complex.

I think we all do to varying degrees

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

WWI & WWII makes that statement inaccurate.

More Black people were killed by Europeans in the Great Ma'afa ALONE, than all of the White people in WW1 and WW2 combined.

And we won't even get into the hundreds of millions killed in the Native American genocide or the millions killed in the East African Arab slave trade.

So no, Whites tend to kill way more people of color....historically speaking.

As much as I would love the above to be true....it is not.

When I last check approximately 20 yrs ago....

Roughly 70 million Africans died as a result of enslavement policy(Maafa) over about 400yrs....transatlantic trade internecine wars/raids forced marching seasoning/breaking in and living during enslavement in the West etc

Roughly 60 million white military personnel died over 4yrs in just two wars....with a further 30 million civilians

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Yes....That is the most recent Example I can find

If you can't find any more recent than that, they may as well not be examples...lol.

A homeless man who was born into a rich family can't use the fact that he used to take summer vacations on the French Riviera AS A CHILD, as examples of him being rich TODAY...lol.

That was then.

Yea....but he was once rich - nevertheless.

It goes to show that the conquerors and the rich can become the vanquish and poor.....as such is the commonality of the human condition.

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Today you find White people ruling over Black people.

You can't say this is common among "all races" and "all colors" unless you can show me recent modern examples of Black people ruling over Whites as well.

In Zimbabwe Namibia Mozambique and South Africa Blacks are now Ruling over South African whites.....

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Of course you would......just like Clarence Thomas is Doing

My Duty is to GOD/CREATOR

I'm not sure who Justice Thomas' duty is to....lol.

His is to God and Country...

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

so that maybe true of people who think like you

I think like a man.

So yes, this is true of most MEN.

...can't speak for women or homosexuals.

or do you think like a third grader??

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

I See Ibrahim Traore is doing the opposite....

I'm not in Burkina Faso so I don't know what he's really doing over there.

And I doubt you do either, lol.

I know what he is doing.....I have spoken to many people from their and from surrounding countries as well..

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Your information is limited by what you're scanning and skimming through on the internet.

Those are also sources I use

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

What do you think that is?

Lol...if you're a man, you should already know.

I wanted to know what you think......

IF I was to guess you think it is ......pu88y?

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

That which is strike through sounds like empty rhetoric....

That illustrates your lack of understanding of how so many of our people have been brainwashed and indoctrinated into accepting the ideology and ethics of their oppressor.

I am Aware and so is Traore.....but you are not - though you think you are aware

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

So Why aren't you rallying around Traore?

For the reasons I've already given above.

Namely......
Africans shouldn't be so geeked up and happy to exchange a French slave master with a Russian one; any more than they should be to exchange a British slave master with an Arab one.

You have no idea....just typing what sounds smart

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

not necessarily true

Not necessarily true, but true for the most part.

Money and Sex are the two biggest and most successful traps.....called Bait and Honey pot

There you are thinking that is the way to accomplish Unity.....

Those are the surest ways to be controlled

1 hour ago, ProfD said:

Agreed.

I guess the b8ssy brigade will have to be round up & quarantined.🤣

Just as I thought you were thinking

1 hour ago, ProfD said:

The religious types who are off code will have to be round up & quarantined too.😁

Exactly what Traore just did

1 hour ago, ProfD said:

That's great but the Black tribes that aren't being supported could be a liability to unity.😎

Depends on if they are doing "The Right Thing" or not

If they are not doing "The Right Thing" or worst doing "The Wrong Thing".....then they are already a liability - Why would you support that?

5 hours ago, frankster said:

Depends on if they are doing "The Right Thing" or not

If they are not doing "The Right Thing" or worst doing "The Wrong Thing".....then they are already a liability - Why would you support that?

Right. Would only support the wrong-doers/liability to extent of damage control. Keep potential enemies close.😎

frankster

I think we all do to varying degrees

Well now I'll have to question YOUR Blackness, if you think that most Black men suffer from various degrees of feeling physically inferior...lol.

I've known a few, but generally speaking Black men tend to be the most confident men on the planet when it comes to physical abilities.

As much as I would love the above to be true....it is not.

When I last check approximately 20 yrs ago....

Roughly 70 million Africans died as a result of enslavement policy(Maafa) over about 400yrs....transatlantic trade internecine wars/raids forced marching seasoning/breaking in and living during enslavement in the West etc

Roughly 60 million white military personnel died over 4yrs in just two wars....with a further 30 million civilians

When you measure the ON GOING Maafa that started in the 1400s or maybe 1500s until this very day including military as well as chemical and biological warfare, the numbers of Africans killed goes up into the HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS.

Not to mention the hundreds of millions of Native Americans that have been and still being killed through political, biological, and chemical warfare.

Again, Whites have killed FAR MORE people of color than themselves.

No comparison.

Yea....but he was once rich - nevertheless.

It goes to show that the conquerors and the rich can become the vanquish and poor.....as such is the commonality of the human condition.

CAN is not the same as HAVE.

We can talk about what CAN happen to rich people and White people all day, but what HAS happened to them?

Have they become slaves or colonized to Africans?

Have they lost the wealthy and power they've built in the Western Hemisphere for the past 600 years?

We know they CAN....but HAVE they?

In Zimbabwe Namibia Mozambique and South Africa Blacks are now Ruling over South African whites.....

In South Africa most of the land and wealth is owned by Whites and they control much if not most of the economy.

Who's "ruling" who?

or do you think like a third grader??

When I was a third grader, I STILL thought like a heterosexual male....lol.

I wanted to make money and get girls.

Again, I can't speak for women or homosexual men and how THEY think or what THEY value.

But as a heterosexual male, I can speak for us.

I know what he is doing.....I have spoken to many people from their and from surrounding countries as well..

If you haven't been to the country, you don't "know" what he's doing.

You know what you've read and heard, but it pretty much stops there.

Even the government knows better than to trust the information they get from "speaking to people who've been there"...lol.

They always want "eyes on the ground" who can witness what's happening and experience it and report those finding directly to them.

Those are also sources I use

I know....lol.

Which is why I question the information you share about different subject.

Not to say that you're wrong, but you can only get so much TRUTH and KNOWLEDGE by surfing the internet and stacking up 20th and 30th hand accounts of "he said she said".

DIRECT EXPERIENCE AND OBSERVATION is where you get the best information on a subject.

I am Aware and so is Traore.....but you are not - though you think you are aware

You admit that you get your information about this subject from the internet, but you think you're more "aware" about what's going on there than me?

You have no idea....just typing what sounds smart

It sounds smart because it makes sense.

Like one plus one equals two...lol.

It certainly doesn't SOUND smart for a slave to pack up and leave one master's plantation and go hiking over to ANOTHER master's plantation thinking that's the answer to his freedom, does it?

So why would you or anyone else think it SOUNDS smart for an African leader to abandon a French White ally in the name of "African independence from White rule".....only to go running to and snuggling up to a RUSSIAN White ally for the same thing?

Money and Sex are the two biggest and most successful traps.....called Bait and Honey pot

There you are thinking that is the way to accomplish Unity.....

It is.

Again, as I said earlier....most heterosexual men want money and women.

There's nothing wrong with this....it's natural.

Those are the surest ways to be controlled

Ofcourse.

How else can you unite people and lead them into a progressive direction without CONTROLING them?

Every powerful nation of people on this planet are CONTROLED by effective leadership.

The majority of Black men ARE controlled and WILL BE controlled, one way or another.

The question is will you allow them to be controlled by their historic enemy or will intelligent Black leadership assume the position of control?

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

frankster

I think we all do to varying degrees

Well now I'll have to question YOUR Blackness, if you think that most Black men suffer from various degrees of feeling physically inferior...lol.

Thats just The cool pose ....machismo - bravado

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I've known a few, but generally speaking Black men tend to be the most confident men on the planet when it comes to physical abilities.

Well thats what I am talking bout....

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

As much as I would love the above to be true....it is not.

When I last check approximately 20 yrs ago....

Roughly 70 million Africans died as a result of enslavement policy(Maafa) over about 400yrs....transatlantic trade internecine wars/raids forced marching seasoning/breaking in and living during enslavement in the West etc

Roughly 60 million white military personnel died over 4yrs in just two wars....with a further 30 million civilians

When you measure the ON GOING Maafa that started in the 1400s or maybe 1500s until this very day including military as well as chemical and biological warfare, the numbers of Africans killed goes up into the HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS.

Not to mention the hundreds of millions of Native Americans that have been and still being killed through political, biological, and chemical warfare.

Again, Whites have killed FAR MORE people of color than themselves.

No comparison.

You can say anything you want....

Can you back it up.....or you just picking numbers out of head?

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Yea....but he was once rich - nevertheless.

It goes to show that the conquerors and the rich can become the vanquish and poor.....as such is the commonality of the human condition.

CAN is not the same as HAVE.

It was your example....You said he was Once rich

"A homeless man who was born into a rich family can't use the fact that he used to take summer vacations on the French Riviera AS A CHILD, as examples of him being rich TODAY...lol."

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

We can talk about what CAN happen to rich people and White people all day, but what HAS happened to them?

Have they become slaves or colonized to Africans?

Barbary Coast read up on it....That has happened

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Have they lost the wealthy and power they've built in the Western Hemisphere for the past 600 years?

We know they CAN....but HAVE they?

Some have lost it...others are losing it

There is no denying who is still the hegemon...they are

Just as there is no deny that most of us are no longer in Chattel Slavery or overt Political and Military Colonialism

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

In Zimbabwe Namibia Mozambique and South Africa Blacks are now Ruling over South African whites.....

In South Africa most of the land and wealth is owned by Whites and they control much if not most of the economy.

Who's "ruling" who?

Yes....that is true

It is also true ....that where once we had no political power we now have most of it.

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

or do you think like a third grader??

When I was a third grader, I STILL thought like a heterosexual male....lol.

I wanted to make money and get girls.

Again, I can't speak for women or homosexual men and how THEY think or what THEY value.

But as a heterosexual male, I can speak for us.

Then you will remain a pawn....control by others and told what to think and believe.

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I know what he is doing.....I have spoken to many people from their and from surrounding countries as well..

If you haven't been to the country, you don't "know" what he's doing.

You know what you've read and heard, but it pretty much stops there.

True

And the same is true for you...

I have heard great things....reminds me of Mugabe and Mandela etc

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Even the government knows better than to trust the information they get from "speaking to people who've been there"...lol.

I am not the or any Government

The people I speak to in person were recently on the ground....like less than one month

The people I listen online are my eyes on the ground...they there right now

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

They always want "eyes on the ground" who can witness what's happening and experience it and report those finding directly to them.

My resources cannot compete...with them

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Those are also sources I use

I know....lol.

Which is why I question the information you share about different subject.

Not to say that you're wrong, but you can only get so much TRUTH and KNOWLEDGE by surfing the internet and stacking up 20th and 30th hand accounts of "he said she said".

I find I am usually pretty accurate and correct in my assessment

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

DIRECT EXPERIENCE AND OBSERVATION is where you get the best information on a subject.

I have no such resource....i have to that which is available and accessible to me

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I am Aware and so is Traore.....but you are not - though you think you are aware

You admit that you get your information about this subject from the internet, but you think you're more "aware" about what's going on there than me?

Yes

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

You have no idea....just typing what sounds smart

It sounds smart because it makes sense.

Like one plus one equals two...lol.

You do not eyes on the ground to know what one plus one.....most third graders know that.

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

It certainly doesn't SOUND smart for a slave to pack up and leave one master's plantation and go hiking over to ANOTHER master's plantation thinking that's the answer to his freedom, does it?

It may not sound smart ....but it maybe wise

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

So why would you or anyone else think it SOUNDS smart for an African leader to abandon a French White ally in the name of "African independence from White rule".....only to go running to and snuggling up to a RUSSIAN White ally for the same thing?

You saw and heard Mandela's answer to that question....yet you ask it again

They gave personnel money training weapons support to defeat....the colonialists.

While the West gave the same to the Colonial oppressors

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Money and Sex are the two biggest and most successful traps.....called Bait and Honey pot

There you are thinking that is the way to accomplish Unity.....

It is.

Again, as I said earlier....most heterosexual men want money and women.

There's nothing wrong with this....it's natural.

It is a point of weakness.....but you were raised to believe it is the greatest show of machismo

You think you have to prove you are a man....what that tells me - is that you are a boy...third grader to be exact

Who is still trying to impress massa

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Those are the surest ways to be controlled

Ofcourse.

How else can you unite people and lead them into a progressive direction without CONTROLING them?

You do not want to control people.....you want to lead people through and by organizing them around issue that concern and affect them.

With that attitude and idea....you are not going to be controlling any one or thing - you are going to be controlled

Do you have more money than the oppressors?

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Every powerful nation of people on this planet are CONTROLED by effective leadership.

You can not use money and women to control....their loyalty will be to the one who pays the most with the deepest pockets - so long as the money is coming.

Their loyalty is to money and those can procure them women?

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

The majority of Black men ARE controlled and WILL BE controlled, one way or another.

True

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

The question is will you allow them to be controlled by their historic enemy or will intelligent Black leadership assume the position of control?

If they are into money and women....them they will be tricked by people with money and women who turn tricks

If they are able to recognize reason....then maybe they will be led by the wise

frankster

Thats just The cool pose ....machismo - bravado

It's not JUST a pose or a front.

Compared with men of other races, when it comes to PHYSICAL abilities...Black men are clearly more confident.

Whether it's sports, sex, fighting, or dancing.

You can say anything you want....

Can you back it up.....or you just picking numbers out of head?

Who can back up statements concerning casualty counts when it comes to mass murder and genocide in history?

Every tragedy will have a dozen different figures of how many millions were killed and that number will differ based on the perspective of who's giving the report.

They can't agree on exactly how many men were killed in the U.S. Civil War alone.

It was your example....You said he was Once rich

Correct, but "have" is PRESENT TENSE.

Him having BEEN rich isn't the same as him BEING rich.

Likewise White folks having BEEN conquered, colonized, and enslaved isn't the same as them BEING in those conditions today.

I'm asking you examples of them BEING in that condition TODAY.

Some have lost it...others are losing it

There is no denying who is still the hegemon...they are

Correct.

I see you get my point.

Just as there is no deny that most of us are no longer in Chattel Slavery or overt Political and Military Colonialism

Facts...for the most part.

But when it comes to overt military colonialism.....I'm not so sure.

It appears that some African countries are directly subordinate to the military protection and rule of Western or Russian powers.

Then you will remain a pawn....control by others and told what to think and believe.

Unless you are part of nobility or a high government official, you're a pawn anyway.

That includes YOU...lol.

You are told what to think and believe and for the most part YOU believe it.

As far as those things you choose not to believe......

The powers over you CONTROL the amount of information you receive so your beliefs and thoughts are limited anyway.

My resources cannot compete...with them

Correct, so you shouldn't have so much confidence in them.

I find I am usually pretty accurate and correct in my assessment

If THATS what you find, then apparently you're not looking hard enough...lol.

In my interactions with you I've found quite a few inaccuracies and incorrect statements.

....and I didn't even have to LOOK that hard to find them, lol.

I have no such resource....i have to that which is available and accessible to me

Exactly.

Which is one of the reasons I say your information, knowledge, and thinking are LIMITED.

It may not sound smart ....but it maybe wise

A wise man weighs his options as well as the pros and cons of the decisions he makes.

A WISE man may come to the conclusion that he's better of not joining ANY plantation.

He may come to the conclusion that he's better off taking his chances living in the woods or dead, than be a slave.

You saw and heard Mandela's answer to that question....yet you ask it again

They gave personnel money training weapons support to defeat....the colonialists.

While the West gave the same to the Colonial oppressors

Russia gave money, training, and weapons to Black South Africans to defeat the White colonist Afrikaners?

When was this?

I don't remember their being an ARMED conflict between Black South Africans and the White rulership.

Let alone one supported by Russia.

It is a point of weakness.....but you were raised to believe it is the greatest show of machismo

Most heterosexual men don't have to be "raised" to seek women and wealth.

It's a natural desire that automatically comes when boys hit puberty and continues for the rest of their lives.

Again, if you are a heterosexual man you should KNOW this already....lol.
It doesn't have to be taught.

This desire doesn't necessarily make them weak, though unrestrained it can be used against them in certain circumstances.

You think you have to prove you are a man....what that tells me

Well tell me - when did I say this?

You do not want to control people.....you want to lead people through and by organizing them around issue that concern and affect them.

That involves controlling them to a certain extent.

You can't lead people without having a measure of control over them.

Do you have more money than the oppressors?

No

You can not use money and women to control

You're naive.

You absolutely can use these things and they HAVE been used for thousands of years to control men.

....their loyalty will be to the one who pays the most with the deepest pockets - so long as the money is coming.

Which is why we need to make sure we have enough wealth for our people to rely on us, and not their enemies.

If they are into money and women....them they will be tricked by people with money and women who turn tricks

Only if they are too lazy or stupid to EARN these things and get them for themselves without the aid of their enemy.

If they are able to recognize reason....then maybe they will be led by the wise

Led where?

To a monastery to become priests????

You've already condemned the desire for money and women, so apparently you want Black men to be MONKS who sit around not desiring anything anymore....less they be controlled and manipulated by those desires, lol.

Most men....especially Black men...don't want to fight and put their lives on the line for a cause they are deriving no benefits or pleasures from.