Event created by richardmurray
This event began 06/12/2025 and repeats every year forever
Israel has committed a war prompting action against Iran. Shooting all these missiles at Tehran is an act of war. So... who does what is the next question. If Iran does nothing, they could implode from the inside. Iran has to act militarily. From the post below, many in the government in the USA are willing to let Israel and Iran have it out. Saudi Arabia + United Arab Emirates + Qatar + Iraq are between Israel versus Iran so all of them will have to act in one way or another.
Netanyahu has put a very dangerous card forward. I know he wants to preserve israel with him at the head of it. This can be a win if the USA/Saudi Arabia/Qatar/United Arab Emirates/Kuwait/Iraq support Israel. The problem is, many in the USA don't want to support Israel. And Saudi Arabia/Qatar/United Arab Emirates/Kuwait/Iraq have populaces that are all in majority anti jewish. So I doubt any of them will risk the internal troubles of siding with Israel even against Iran knowing their domestic populace. A war will be brilliant for USA/Russia/China/European Union as they each will have a place for their various financial activities as well as a place to focus media away from domestic problems. Taiwan + Ukraine may be winners as it may preoccupy china + russia to make deals with their heritage similar neighbors.
I am certain Scrumpft doesn't want to go to war, but if he does or if he doesn't will be a key moment going forward for international policy. If the USA isn't going to step in with Israel vs Iran then a bunch of little regional wars can break out and should get a similar response.
Forum Post
https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11674-israel-strikes-tehran/
TWEETS
American patriots are caught in a vice:
The Left puts illegals first ... The Right puts Israel first.
On one side, there are riots against the deportation of illegals.
On the other side, there's a push for yet another war in the Middle East, this time with Iran!
The American patriot takes the brunt of it all.
"Making America Great Again" is becoming a distant memory ... even though only 6 months have passed in this new Trump Administration.
Watch
@DanielLMcAdams
and
@ChrisRossini
below:
https://x.com/RonPaul/status/1933234736379670886
Netenyahu has spent his entire Political and Personal life trying destroy the entire Middle East.
He doesn't care about Hostages, he doesn't care about the young Israelis dying in Gaza, he doesn't care about Palestinians.
He cares about Power.
https://x.com/BowesChay/status/1933298882298912948
We dont actually need to side with either. Theres a whole ocean between us. The middle east is not our problem.
They chose to move in where they dont belong and are not wanted. It shouldn't be our job to babysit them and keep them safe.
None of these issues would be a thing if we just broke up with Israel once and for all, including 9/11.
America first and only.
https://x.com/CassandraRules/status/1933133816375202129
Marco Rubio puts out a strong statement regarding Israel’s strike on Iran tonight.
We will NOT be caught up in another Middle East forever war.
These two factions have fought for hundreds of years. Neocons will say we should be involved, but it’s NOT our fight.
AMERICA FIRST!
https://x.com/MikeCrispi/status/1933327417063715067
Don't join the military.
If you're in there now, resign.
Israel will drag the US and its allies into a war with Iran, and Russia will join Iran, and China will join Russia.
...and World War III will begin.
https://x.com/_RogueScholar_/status/1933320490002886738
Not our war!! World War III is here! Get ready!
https://x.com/petejonesintx/status/1933341444686659988
Consider this
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIDmg6DNwwh/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
MORE COMMENTS
https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11691-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites/#findComment-74598
@ProfD
Well schrumpft has placed the global order from FDR all on the backs of Iran really. Israel attacked Iran absent provocation, and then the usa helped defend Israel from Iran 's attacks and now has attacked iran absent provocation.
ISrael + USA hope Iran will literally accept being bullied and not fight back and acquiesce. If that happens then the FDR global order is dead and SChrumpft has successfully redefined the global order going forward while avoiding a huge war.
All the other countries are waiting for what Iran will do. War is not a game, it never was and never will be. And it never exists as I find most people like to speak of it. If Iran goes to war, the FDR global order is dead and who knows where the alliances go.
Iran can do something in the middle which will avoid war but also be very challenging for them, though potentially one of the greatest things in modern humanity. I will not speak of it. But I ponder.
https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11691-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites/#findComment-74653
@Pioneer1
On 6/22/2025 at 6:13 AM, Pioneer1 said:
What doesn't make sense to me is why would Iran enter a "deal" with America when America is an unconditional supporter of Israel?
There is no "neutrality" in this.
IRan has choices, Iran can choose to go to war officially. Iran can choose to acquiesce to the USA. Either choice Schurmpt gets what he wants.
If Iran goes to war, Schrumpft get to use iran as a call for more isolationism. If IRan acquiesces then Schrumpft gets to say he makes peace through strength.
Comprehend, Israel does not want iran to go to war and Netanyahu i gambling that the government of iran: ayatollah and the clergy+elected officials+financial barons will lead the country to aquiesce. If Iran decides to go to war, Israel will have forced all of its neighbors who are muslim to keep a distance. They will not help or can not help iran because they are to beholden to the usa or don't have the means BUT their populaces are all anti zionist + anti israel for honest reasons so they can't embrace israel if iran decides to go to war. No neutrality ever exist really in intergovernmental affairs. The USA carries the british heritage of saying things are neutral when they are not
On 6/22/2025 at 6:13 AM, Pioneer1 said:
America and Israel are allies....and America did what allies are supposed to do....help eachother.
this is not true , the usa is not an ally of israel nor is israel an ally of the usa, china is not an ally or russia nor is russia an ally of china, canada nor mexico are allies of the usa nor is the usa an ally of canada or mexico, nor is france an ally of england nor is england an ally of france. No two governments in human history have ever been allies. This term allies is a commercialization of the term "convenient + inconvenient partnerships"
Rather than see the usa through the lens of allies, look at the usa + israel through the lens of the leading governors.
What does NEtanyahu want? NEtanyahu wants a country of jews who feel they have an ancestral right to a bit of land and are willing to kill any for that right to be embraced as (feared+ loved) neighbors by the muslim (governments+ peoples) all around them who have a history of antagony with them. Iran's government is the biggest threat not because iran has the richest muslim government, that is saudi arabia who is another c+i partner of the usa, not because iran has the most religiously zealous people, that is kemet/egypt who made itself another c+i partner of the usa through egypt's military who runs egypt, not the government of egypt. It is because Iran has the most religiously zealous government in the muslim world and because iran is a public enemy of the usa, that adds on to what israel can apply to iran, whether true or not.
Now how does israel's strike lead to what netanyahu wants? If Iran acquiesces, it will force a change in iran's tone or a change in their government posture in key ways. You can't say death to israel + death to the usa, while cowtowing to them. And thus israel will have a neighbor who publicly opposes them off the table as it was. But it all depends on what iran does. If Iran holds true to its public opposition to israel + usa, then usa is safe but israel will be long term under worse conditions, because even though most of the governments in the muslim world about israel are satraps to the usa: saudi arabia/qatar/turkey/egypt/morocco/united arab emirates, syria, jordan, the ones who are not: algeria/libya/pakistan. Remember one thing about egpyt. When they had the commonly called arab spring with all the mamluk descendent college students talking about freedom or rights, who won the election that led the usa to back the egyptian military to take over the government. It was the mulism brotherhood. the muslim brotherhood who are arguably far more anti jewish or anti usa than iran or turkey or whomever, won a public election that the west deems even/fair. So the people in that region are anti israel + anti usa, but the governments, like black elected officials in the usa, are the ones who go against the majority in their populace, make deals with the usa or israel with support from usa+ israel in quelling their own people. so, as some jews have said, what netanyahu has done, has placed israel in potentially the worst situation.The saudi royal family, yearly has to quell the religious fanatics. Look who runs syria now that the assad clan is gone. I argue that if Iran holds true, it will be devastating to the region because the common peoples in that region clearly want israel + the usa gone/out /dead. This is fact so netanyahu is gambling. We will see. IT is all in IRan's hands, that is the reality. Iran will dictate how this plays out, which is a poor sign of diplomacy on the part of israel or the usa.
What does Schrumpft want? Schrumpft wants one of two things. 1) Proof that isolationism is warranted which he gets if Iran holds true because he can argue that if iran is willing against the militaristic advantage of the usa + israel aside no aid or assistance coming from anyone to hold true to their positions , that country will never be able to be civil with the usa and thus the usa needs to embrace what many whites in rural usa want, which is a return to isolationism, which will end the internatiolization era started by woodrow wilson of the college of new jersey that ended the isolationism of the usa before and after the spanish american war. 2) proof that the usa can make peace through strength aka bullying which he gets if iran acquiesces. And that is not a new type of peace through strength. The napoleonic era, the roman empire, the civil code+ pax romana were all based on the same things. And considering the usa is two hundred and fifty years old, this can arguably with Schrumpft executive order culture be his crossing the rubicon, which is a phrase used when an empire goes from elected officials to military chiefs. I argue the best similarity is the shogun era in japan. were legally, Nippon was still a country led by the lineage of a royal family while functionally it was run by the head general, the shogun. The usa will still have elected officials but the presidency will take on an imperial role until a president does away with being elected in some form or fashion.
The problem is either path means an end to the franklin deleanor roosevelt world order led by the usa, an intricate web of financial/governmental/militaristic operations.
Iran propelled by Schrumpfts actions will 1) begin an embrace of one to one culture,which schrumft wants, north american treaty oranizationn/united nations/ similar are finished or reduced extremely, many organizations of the FDR era are finished, because they are based on complex inter governmental relations. 2) begin an era of highly covert operation where the image of the global interwoven economy exists but the embrace of secret/private/covert actions are now advanced highly to evade the bully of the usa but also create or maintain partnerships that are not publicly allowed. The cia/fbi/nsa/ similar will be happy because it will be a grand return to the days with the usa battled the ussr and tons of people were murdered in the dark all throughout humanity to manipulate and control things while keeping public faces of peace.
On 6/22/2025 at 6:13 AM, Pioneer1 said:
I thought Russia and China was suppose to be Iran's allies....lol.
So where are they????
just to repeat, russia isn't even an ally to china nor is china even an ally to russia let alone both of them be ally's to iran.
Russia+ China are both nuclear powers who have to be respected on the battle field, which is why the usa never once considers attacking russia although ukraine keeps begging for it. The whole point of the non proliferation treaty was to give usa/russia/china/united kingdom/france a status above all other countries. neither can truly fall because their nuclear arsenals can potentially be used to clear the board. But, stopping their rivals from getting nuclear weapons was in all their favor: cuba/mexico/poland/sweden/taiwan/vietnam/india/japan/germany/algeria/libya/ireland all don't have nuclear weapons and all have what I will label gripes, with a nuclear power. Now israel/India/pakistan all achieved nuclear weapons but they never signed the non proliferation treaty. South Sudan is a new country but they didn't sign also, which is interesting for the future... North Korea signed but did that to get technical help and then withdrew and accepted the penalty which is why they get banned from so much. Now to iran, under the shah Iran signed it , but when the ayotollah came in after killing the shah, supported by the majority in iran, the government should had gotten out of the NPT but they stayed so it took over forty years but iran seems to be leaving the NPT which will force more sanctions even though it will also free iran from any further legal scenarios. Russia + China will be happy cause it will force Iran to be partnered with them as only official nuclear powers can make arrangements with non nuclear powers , ala the usa to israel. the usa will be unhappy but the usa will not be able to stop russia or china from doing business with iran.
The question is if Iran quits, will that lead to many countries quitting the NPT...and the reality is, when the nuclear weapons came about at the end of the second phase of the white european imperial war, commonly called, world war two, the situation in humanity is no different than now. Yes, countries like the usa are bullies but the reality is, a question holds true. Does any government know how to lose? specifically, does any government know how to accept their army+navy+air force being completely wiped out with the enemy in their borders and not use their nuclear weapons? yes, any one can say of course, but the risk is what if one can not. You have to comprehend, fission based irradiated air /water will travel all over the earth, make everyone sick and the more bombs the more irradiated. No one will escape. Yes, the fiscal aristocracy may have a way out, but are they truly prepared for the time it will take. I doubt it. Remmeber it isn't just radiation levels it is, genetic deformities. It may sound apocalyptic, but nuclear weapons are powerful, their damage is wide and a sky full of them falling down on the earth will not kill the earth but will kill most of her children and it will take a long time for her to produce more.
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On 6/22/2025 at 3:45 PM, Pioneer1 said:
I think right now North Korea is probably one of the very few nations that would actually be down to "ride" if a phone call was made to them.
no, north korea wouldn't, but north korea hopes iran gets out f the non proliferation.
@ProfD
On 6/22/2025 at 3:39 PM, ProfD said:
where is Russia and China who are supposed allies to Iran.
as I told Pioneer I don't know where anyone gets this idea that any two governments in humanity or allies. i have no idea where that , in my opinion true stupidity comes from. so I can't answer your question. But, I can answer the following, what are russia + china doing?
Russia + China are both waiting on Iran. In the same way the usa is hiding behind israel , russia + china will hide behind iran, this is the hundred year heritage of the third white european imperial war commonly called the cold war, where the usa+ ussr used others to battle themselves. That heritage lives on strong, sadfully, and I say sadfully because lies never favor true peace.
On 6/22/2025 at 2:37 AM, richardmurray said:
If Iran goes to war, the FDR global order is dead and who knows where the alliances go.
On 6/22/2025 at 3:39 PM, ProfD said:
The Iranians do not have enough weapons or men to wage war against Israel backed by the US.
I had to first quote myself properly because the way you quoted me suggested I said, Iran would be advantaged in a war against israel backed by the usa or that war was even wise. I didn't say anything of the sort. If Iran goes to war, the global order is dead or at least injured. What i said had nothing to do with militaristic feasibility but the global arrangement of governments in humanity today. Iran has to makes it choice and it is theirs to make. I am not in the prediction business or the assumption business, options others have I treat honestly.
On 6/22/2025 at 3:39 PM, ProfD said:
The Iranian regime could do the terrorist equivalent of strapping on a bomb and blowing up their own country. That would not be fair to the 90 million Iranian citizens though.
War isn't about evenness or what you call fairness. War is about destruction/chaos, what you are willing to give or take in violence. Your suggestion I find insulting. The Iranian government will make its choice.
and for the record, for any one outside profd who reads the following, what I was/am thinking is not in his answer. He went another way completely.
On 6/22/2025 at 2:37 AM, richardmurray said:
Iran can do something in the middle which will avoid war but also be very challenging for them, though potentially one of the greatest things in modern humanity. I will not speak of it. But I ponder.
@umbrarchist
16 hours ago, umbrarchist said:
Russia is Crumbling internally in its failure to deal with Ukraine.
China has internal economic problems because of their insanely corrupt real estate bubble. Supposedly Xi just fell from power so their internal politics may not be in order.
China is not crumbling , let me explain to you how the chinese government works. The chinese government which is technically a multiparty states, yes china has minority parties, like the reform party in the usa or the communist party in the usa.. The chinese government has congresses, each congress is where the communist party members vote on everything from who will lead to who will have this or that position to laws to more. But each year between congresses, each year, an annual session occurs where instead of everybody like in the congress, it is the leaders and top folk, think of this like the primaries in the usa. So Xi has many questioning his leadership in china. Again, the myth in the usa is that china is a dictatorship, that isn't true. The chinese government is primarly made of one party but the chinese have philosophical or age based camps. What do I mean? whereas in the usa, you have warhawks and fiscal conservatives in the party of abraham lincoln, the elephants, and you have centrists and liberals in the pary of andrew jackson, the donkeys. If you were to relate china's system to the usa's, in china, no elephants or donkeys exist, but the chinese communist party has wings based on philosophy but also age and they compete whole in the congress or part in the sessions and sway to and from each other and that is what XI is dealing with. People vote in china, the problem is the usa likes the idea of a system where political parties which are not part of the constitution get to be deemed mandatory. The chinese communist party has a militaristic wing, has a financial wing, has a cultural wing and many others. China is not financially where some in china want it to be even though it is an unchallenged second in the world and the real estate bubble is no different than the multiple that happened in the usa in recent memory. China is not militaristically where some in china want it to be , even though they are playing catchup because of obvious reasons. So Xi has those in china who feel he is not doing a good enough job. China is not culturally where some in china want it to be, but south korea/japan/taiwan have those who benefit from china alongside those who benefit from the usa. and all three of those countries want an autonomy that china gives the likes of macau while said three have the condition of hong kong.
@aka Contrarian
15 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:
Trump publicly announced that he was going to wait 2 weeks to see how things played out between Iran and Israel, then days after this declaration, America launched a secret attack on Iran and destroyed its nuclear facilities.
There is "no honor among thieves". That's how Trump rolls. He has no scruples or diplomacy. He's a sneaky liar. Meanwhile, Israel is beside itself with joy and full of praise for Trump who yearns to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize like Obama, who he envies.
This is the guy running America. smh.
Remember the USA populace earned his leadership, it is not accident or unwarranted. Was it not the white european descent populace in the usa who constantly voted for elected officials who made promises they never kept, and constantly blamed or made actions against non white populaces? Was it not the black populace in the usa from the end of the war between the states who constantly had battles amongst it parts on what they wanted the black experience to be in the usa, never doing what is necessary to force one way, ending up supporting black elected officials who never had a pro black plan and only spoke of unwarranted or dysfunctional dreams while lying about their presence as the desired legacy of black advocates murdered by whites plus agents of whites or the black populace en large who I argue has always disliked whites? Was it not the immigrant populaces of the usa post immigration act 1964 who as the smallest minority populaces benefited off of the woes of indigenous or battles of dos blacks while embracing all the media positions from whites on said historically abused peoples while now as larger populaces wanting the same security they had in the past? the people in the usa earned Schrumpft. The majority of the people in the usa are backstabbers to their own kin in action or words, or liars about their kins condition, who claim they want betterment while they support dysfunctional or inevitably destructive strategies plans or ideas. The people of the usa warrant Schrumpt, earned his tenures. The aspect that amaze me the most is the majority of the people in the usa actually think they warrant better. They don't.
https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11691-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites/#findComment-74664
@ProfD
6 hours ago, ProfD said:
IMO, the global pecking order remains unchanged regardless the outcome of this strike.
the global order I refer to isn't the global peckin order
@Pioneer1
7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
What do they expect Russia to actually do?
I don't know , iran has this issue in their corner, israel + the usa have done their part but now it is up to iran.
All I have read in terms of actions is iran attacked a base in qatar , has blocked a sea route for oil, is not stating it has gone to war with the usa, and is deliberating leaving the non proliferation treaty which based on the precedence of north korea, all they have to do is give a ninety day notice. I imagine the usa will want to make a deal before then as the usa made a deal with north korea on the 89th day but... we will see.
All that is for sure is Iran hasn't bowed to the israel+usa nor threw a punch at israel+usa.
https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11691-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites/#findComment-74665
@umbrarchist
Even enough but the usa has had more real estate bubble pops than any other country in the last twenty five years, i count three at least, and the usa government is still going strong.
https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11691-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites/#findComment-74684
@aka Contrarian
On 6/24/2025 at 3:55 PM, aka Contrarian said:War. What's it good for?
one of the most important things human governments need, reboots. Peace has a very great negative, it allows the inefficiencies to live on. Peace never gets rid of inefficiency, merely allows it to mutate into something far worse, albeit even if no one cognizes it at the time.
https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11691-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites/#findComment-74693
@Troy
On 6/24/2025 at 10:10 PM, Troy said:
Absolutely nothin'!
yeah, lovely song, lovely voice:) all black folks know it .... but the song's message is wrong. War is good for somethings. I argue some songs messages have to be reputed really.
@aka Contrarian
do you remember when nina simone said this[you have to scroll to the bottom of the following link], i say this is my response to what good war is for?
https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11691-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites/#findComment-74713
I didn't [at] Troy because I am not commenting to oppose Troy's points as I will reassert in the following, I am not interested in prosyletization but I will publicly oppose positions I see as flawed.
On 6/25/2025 at 12:53 PM, Troy said:I agree with Starr's lyrics particularly in the context of the Vietnam war era.
Well... good, please keep your position standalone or in context of the vietnam war. I don't want it to change for any reason.
But I have to protest this. The Vietnam was was a billion dollar money making machine, the illegal profits alone were grand. Money matters. I always find it funny how many black people in the usa, especially DOSers talk about money making but then want to war has no good when was tends to make more money than most things especially peaceful things.
On 6/25/2025 at 12:53 PM, Troy said:Nina Simone's commentary on protecting Malcom X completely ignores who bombed his home and ultimately gunned him down, which was known when she made the statements...
Again, I want it known I do not want Troy's position to change nor am I regaling Troy or anyone else. But, this is false.
First, the federal bureau of investigation are suggested by many to have infiltrated every single organization in the usa. Of course, I have no proof, no proof whatsoever. But I can believe it. I know Malcolm x's bodyguard was an agent. So... this goes back to nina simone's point the black people who talk most about peace are willing to exist alongside blacks like malcolm x's former bodyguard, and the horde of others mostly I bet still not publicly known or listed, including in the nation of islam against malcolm who are harming the village. her point is true, if you want to protect your racial populace you have to be willing to kill, those in or out of your racial populace who are enemies, which includes nation of islam members who are agents, bodyguards of leaders who are against as well as kkk non blacks.
@ProfD
On 6/26/2025 at 2:17 AM, ProfD said:At the same time, POTUS OJ is still offering to *make a deal* with the Iranians.
of course, didn't the usa make a deal with north korea on the 89th day of them leaving the non proliferation treaty, which led to north korea pausing it [even though they continued it later]?
so I can see schrumpft making a deal as the iranians legislative body is mulling over getting out the non proliferation treaty
It seems for now Iran is not playing their hand, every second they wait they put pressure on the usa.
Iran Reaffirms Right to Peaceful Nuclear Energy within NPT Framework
June, 26, 2025
TEHRAN (Tasnim) – Iran’s Foreign Ministry reiterated that the country will not yield to pressure or aggression, emphasizing that the right to lawful access to nuclear energy is non-negotiable under international treaties.
Speaking to Al Jazeera, Iran’s Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Ismael Baqaei emphasized that Iran’s right to peaceful nuclear energy remains unchanged and warned that any future cooperation with the IAEA depends on international recognition of Iran’s legal entitlements and protection of its national security.
The following is the full text of the interview:
Question: Well, joining us now on Al Jazeera is Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesman, Ismael Baqaei. He's live from Tehran. Thank you so much, Baqaei, for being with us on Al Jazeera. So, (US) President (Donald) Trump is insisting that Tehran’s nuclear program has been completely destroyed. He said, quote, "The US strikes were a perfect operation that obliterated Iran's nuclear capabilities." What's your response to that? What's the initial damage assessment at your nuclear sites?
Baqaei: I think what matters here—and should not be overshadowed by beautiful words and different positions taken by the United States—is the fact that we witnessed a detrimental blow to international law, to the NPT regime, and to the moral ethics of the international community. So, what matters most here is for the international community to understand that the US military strikes were an act of aggression against Iran's territorial integrity and national sovereignty. That matters most.
Question: Okay, understood. But when the US president says that Iran's nuclear program has been completely destroyed, do you reject or accept that?
Baqaei: What I have to say is that Iran's right to peaceful nuclear energy remains intact. Iran has every right under the NPT, under Article 4 of the NPT, to enjoy using nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, and Iran is determined to preserve that right under any circumstances.
Question: Okay, can you tell us what's left of the Iranian nuclear program and the uranium stockpiles? Has Iran been able to salvage any of the uranium stockpiles before the US bombing?
Baqaei: As I said, I think these are secondary issues. The primary concern of the international community has to be to condemn this lawless act by the United States. I think it is really a very bad sign that many people across the globe are trying to underestimate the depth and gravity of the American act of aggression against Iran, and now they are talking about the level of strikes or its effectiveness. The international community has to understand that what was done by the United States against Iran was a horrible blow to international diplomacy, to international law, and to international ethics.
Question: Understood, sir. I just want to insist on the fact that the IAEA has called on Iran to allow nuclear inspectors at the site, as this ceasefire with Israel is now in place. But instead, I understand Iran is considering cutting cooperation with the UN nuclear agency. Can you tell us why and why you would not allow inspectors on the ground to verify the facts?
Baqaei: Don't you think it is only natural for the representatives of a nation that has come under an egregious act of aggression to reconsider the way they have been dealing with the IAEA? Yes, there has been a draft bill by our parliament today—it has been adopted—and it talks about suspending our cooperation with the IAEA. It talks about suspending, not putting an end to, the cooperation, with two conditions: first, that Iran's inalienable rights under the NPT, under Article 4 of the NPT, must be recognized. The second thing is that the security and safety of our nuclear installations, our scientists, and our people should be preserved. So, I think it's only logical—it's a matter of logic and law—because if we are going to be a responsible member of the NPT, we have to be able to enjoy the rights that are afforded to every member state of this treaty.
Question: Speaking of the NPT, sir, you also talked about Iran discussing suspending its participation in the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Is that something that's been seriously considered? Will Iran pull out of the NPT after this war?
Baqaei: As I said, the draft bill of the parliament talks about suspending our cooperation with the IAEA. It doesn't talk about suspending our participation or membership in the treaty. And I think the bill again is in line with the parameters of the NPT because the bill talks about guaranteeing our rights under the NPT.
Question: You're right under the NPT, and you've said this before, sir, that Iran has the right to enrich uranium. Can you tell us—I'm going to insist on this a little bit more—what remains operational today as far as Iran's nuclear program?
Baqaei: I have nothing to add on this matter because it's a technical issue. Our Atomic Energy Organization and other relevant agencies are working on that. But yes, our nuclear installations have been badly damaged—that's for sure—because they have come under repeated attacks by Israeli and American aggressors. Again, what matters most for the people in the region and beyond is to really understand the depth of this lawlessness that happened for the past 12 days against Iran.
Question: President Trump also said today while he was at the NATO summit that, quote, "We'll end up having somewhat of a relationship with Iran after this conflict." Are you open to that now that your country is no longer under fire—being attacked, as you say? Are you willing to negotiate with the US?
Baqaei: We have been hearing all sorts of contradictory remarks for the past two or three months. There have been many contradictions within the American bureaucracy, within the American establishment. While they have been talking about diplomacy, they green light the Israelis to attack Iran only two days before our scheduled meeting in Muscat. My nation came under an act of aggression by Israel. So, has there remained any trust in them? Because they are talking about different things, acting differently, and now they have to be held accountable for the aggression that they have committed against my country in collusion with the Israelis. And that's something that our people want—as the government, they expect the international community to hold the aggressors accountable before anything else.
Question: So, are you saying that you're no longer interested in talking to the Americans?
Baqaei: What I'm trying to say is that they torpedoed diplomacy. As far as Iran is concerned, we have said diplomacy never ends—even during the height of the imposed war against Iran, we continued talking to different actors in order to save lives and to make sure that our national security is protected. But the point is that the other parties are talking about dialogue and diplomacy while at the same time committing acts of aggression. These contradictions have only created more and more problems.
Question: Okay, so what preconditions, if any, would Iran require for any future negotiations?
Baqaei: For the time being, we are focused—just one day after the stoppage of the aggression by the Israelis—on our security, on our people, because people are outraged at what happened. So, at this time, I think we have nothing to say about those contradictory remarks regarding diplomacy or negotiations because we have to make sure whether the other parties are really serious when they're talking about diplomacy or if it is again part of their tactics to create more problems for the region and for my country.
Question: Okay, let me ask you, sir, about the ceasefire—briefly—between Israel and Iran, which is now in place and is holding. What are the key elements required to maintain this ceasefire, this truce? Are there any active diplomatic channels that are supporting this truce behind the scenes?
Baqaei: As you see, we were approached by Qataris to stop this war—this imposed war against Iran. We didn't start this war, and we agreed to stop after they approached us, after the Americans approached Qatar. So, it is very clear: we have been under attack, we have been subjected to an act of aggression. So, we will defend in case there is any act of military strikes, any act of aggression against Iran.
Question: Baqaei, one last question if I can. Iranian officials have projected an image of strength and stability—even victory—in the face of this conflict. As you say, Iran was attacked by Israel, but the toll has been significant for Iran: over 600 casualties, widespread destruction of military and civilian sites. We don't yet know the extent of the destruction of the nuclear sites. When Iranian officials claim victory today, what does victory mean? What does victory look like? What did Iran achieve realistically in this conflict?
Baqaei: We suffered a lot—that's for sure. Our people were massacred by Israeli aggression; that's war crimes against humanity, and they have to be held accountable. But the point is that our people showed that they are resolute in defense of their national security and sovereignty. And I think, given the fact that this imposed war was orchestrated, planned, and operationalized with the help of Americans, it means that we had to resist against an attack by the United States, by Israelis—by two nuclear-armed actors—and the fact that they were supported by some other actors as well across the Western Hemisphere. So, it means that we were able, as a nation, to defend our identity, our security, and at the end, we had to make them—they had to submit to the will of the Iranian people through resistance—to approach us and ask for this ceasefire.
Question: So, they approached you and asked you for the ceasefire—just to confirm?
Baqaei: We were approached by our friends from Qatar. And of course, as I said, we have never welcomed war. We are a nation of peace-loving people. No responsible actor, no responsible state in our region welcomes war. It is only one actor in our region that has always been trying to wage war against the people in our region. They are committing, as you know, genocide in Gaza for the past two years. They are occupying the lands of two Muslim countries—Syria and Lebanon—and everyone knows that they are warmongers that have no respect for international law, for international ethics, or morality. So yes, we, as a nation, were able to resist against this unjust war for the past 12 days.
Question: Baqaei, just one final question if I may. You mentioned Qatar, and the Qataris have expressed dissatisfaction at the attack on the American base here in Qatar, strongly condemned it, and said that this constitutes a scar in the relationship between Iran and Qatar today. What is Iran going to do to repair this relationship?
Baqaei: We have high respect for Qataris, and we attach significant importance to our good relations with Qatar. We have been good friends with Qatar during their difficult times, and Qataris have also been our good friends. We are good friends, basically, with all countries—the littoral states of the Persian Gulf. We have made it clear that the military strikes against Al Udeid had nothing to do with Qatar. We respect the territorial integrity and national security of Qatar. It was in exercise of our right of self-defense against American aggression against our peaceful nuclear installations. So, at the high level, our president talked to Qataris; our minister of foreign affairs did as well. We tried to clarify that what was done was against the American base in exercise of our right of self-defense. So, we are committed to our good-neighborliness policy with Qatar and other countries of the region. And I personally am really unhappy about any inconvenience that has been caused to our Qatari sisters and brothers as a result of this attack. But as we said, this self-defense operation was calibrated in defense of our rights under Article 51 of the Charter, in response to American aggression against our territorial integrity.
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@ProfD
On 6/26/2025 at 12:48 PM, ProfD said:This provides context to the Ayatollah's proclamation of a *victory*.
When I initially heard about the Ayatollah saying Iran slapped the US, I wondered if he was smoking that Islamic hemp.
Now, I understand the Ayatollah's thought process from the perspective of the Iranian resistance to the 2-headed devil that attacked them.
your welcome for the proper reporting:)
@aka Contrarian
10 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:I still say Palestine terrorists started this war and israeli Zionists are prolonging it. There are no good guys nor bad guys. No heroes nor villains. Just religious fanatics and power hungry leaders. MEN.
Well this is two wars.
the USA+UK started the war between palestineans side zionists, it is a war that has been going on since 1920 between the palestinean muslim and the zionist jew. but it was not started by either, it was started by the usa+uk. uk could have easily blockaded the zionist knowing fully well, the palestineans didn't want them as photos of palestinean protest show. the usa did their part by allowing finances and resources to zionist populations. the rest is inevitability. A war that has gone on for one hundred and five years, like the hundred years war between england and france with various interbellums [moments between the war, some call ceasefires, some falsely call peace]
the war between iran and israel was started by the usa when they supported the shah whose governing quality created the ayotollah, but as the jordan current king said, his father warned the shah and the shah didn't heed, so everybody in the region and by some three letter people [ central intelligence agency] of the security industry in the usa knew too but it wasn't heeded for whatever reason and the ayotollah took over and embarrassed the security industry in the usa. And the second the ayotollah took over he opposed iraq/saudi arabia/israel/usa and that was when the war between israel /iran started but it wasn't started by iran or israel, it was started by the usa who was so concerned about oil and having israel + iran as satraps that the condition of the iranian majority was second fiddle and the whitephile or europhile fiscally wealthy iranian minority that was wearing mini skirts or rock and rolling were told to go into gilded shadows or leave. but the usa started the iran+ israel war.
You are correct war doesn't breed heroes or villains, good guys or bad guys, that is very wise, but it isn't fanatacism or power hungry leaders. It is more than that. It is about identity.
Unlike Black descended of enslaved whom seem to like internal conflict in their populace, some peoples want their populace to have a cohesion that warrants the word community. and that means when others are around who want to challenge that identity you have to fight, you have to kill, to make sure you reach or maintain the identity you want.
Iran doesn't want to have usa military bases in their country like saudi arabia/qatar. Iran don't want to have arrangements with israel nor do they want israel in the region. Iran wants palestineans to get palestine back. Iranians want to have the tools to deter the usa from attacking iran cheaply. that is identity and since war is the only way, then war is a good way.
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