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The Upside from Movies That Move We
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@Pioneer1 It's funny, in the movies that move we review, Nike seconds your sentiment. This is based on a true story, which was made into a french film and then a usa film. In france as in the usa, labor is designed to place people based on phenotype into a solid form, a stereotype. In the real story, the french film or the usa film a key plot point is that he is an exconvict who through opportunity , a rare thing given to exconvicts the world over, is lifted. If you ask me, does the upside film continue the stereotype of financially downtrodden black men in white european produced film, not all media,not all types of produced film, but white european produced film? yes. Now I could argue black people need to stop watching white produced film if they don't like how white money usually accepts portraying blacks but... I find all the black images i need in black produced artwork: books/music/graphical representatons/film I don't require white produced art to show black people positively. Sequentially, for me, black excon's isn't a stereotype in the media that matters most to me. If you ask me, if I was the producer , would I demand the story plot point remain the same? yes. I would not accepted writers making kevin hart a construction worker recently laid off or a college drop out. Not my produced film. Maybe cause in NYC I know fully well what incarceration has done to the black community in NYC, I like a black man from prison, getting opportunity, and using it successfully to a positive end. If a writer says to me, the producer, the money, they want to change kevin hart's characters background to a college dropout or construction worker laid off, I will reply no way. A white excon is able in real life but in fiction a black excon can't? I don't like that messaging and not with my money. If you, Pioneer1 are the producer of said film, based on your words, and with the only change left you can make to manipulate kevin hart's characters background, you demand writers make kevin hart a construction worker laid off or college student dropped out, am I correct? your answer in comments please my evidence cause I know among black people in the usa, this is always needed. https://www.gala.fr/stars_et_gotha/abdel_sellou -
Man cleared in a 1996 Brooklyn killing said for decades he knew who did it. Prosecutors now agree
By Associated Press New York State
PUBLISHED 9:36 PM ET Jan. 18, 2024
NEW YORK (AP) — A man who served 14 years in prison for a deadly 1990s shooting was exonerated Thursday after prosecutors said they now believe the killer was an acquaintance he has implicated for decades.
“I lost 14 years of my life for a crime that I didn’t commit,” Steven Ruffin told a Brooklyn judge after sighing with emotion.
Although Ruffin was paroled in 2010 and has since built a career in sanitation in Georgia, he said that getting his manslaughter conviction dismissed and his name cleared “will help me move on.”
“If you know you're innocent, don’t give up on your case — keep on fighting, because justice will prevail,” Ruffin, 45, said outside court. “That’s all I’ve wanted for 30 years: somebody to listen and really hear what I’m saying and look into the things I was telling them."
Prosecutors said they were exploring whether to charge the man they now believe shot 16-year-old James Deligny on a Brooklyn street during a February 1996 confrontation over some stolen earrings. Brooklyn District Attorney Eric Gonzalez said after court that charges, if any, wouldn't come immediately.
“You have to be able to convict someone beyond a reasonable doubt, and we have to make sure that that evidence is sufficient to do so,” said Gonzalez, who wasn't DA when Ruffin was tried. “You have a lot of factors working against us procedurally, but also factually — unfortunately, this is 30 years ago.”
Ruffin's conviction is the latest of more than three dozen that Brooklyn prosecutors have disavowed after reinvestigations over the last decade.
Over a dozen, including Ruffin's, were connected to retired Detective Louis Scarcella. He was lauded in the 1980s and ‘90s for his case-closing prowess, but defendants have accused him of coercing confessions, engineering dubious witness identifications and other troubling tactics. He has denied any wrongdoing.
Prosecutors said in their report on the Ruffin case that they “did not discover any misconduct by Scarcella" in the matter. A message seeking comment was sent to his attorney.
Prosecutors said the police investigation — and their office's own at the time — “were wholly inadequate” and tunnel-visioned, failing to look into the person they now believe was the gunman.
The mistaken-identity shooting happened as Ruffin and others were looking for a robber who had just snatched earrings from Ruffin’s sister. In fact, Deligny wasn't the robber, authorities say.
Tipsters led police to Ruffin, then a 17-year-old high school student, and the victim's sister identified him in a lineup that a court later deemed flawed. Scarcella wasn't involved in the lineup, but he and another detective questioned Ruffin.
The teen told them, twice, that he saw but wasn't involved in Deligny's shooting, according to police records quoted in prosecutors' report.
Then Scarcella brought the teen's estranged father — a police officer himself — to the precinct. The father later testified that he told his son to “tell the truth,” but Ruffin said his father leaned on him to confess.
And he did confess, saying he fired because he thought Deligny was about to pull something out of his jacket. Ruffin told the detectives they could retrieve the gun from his sister's boyfriend, and they did, prosecutors' report said.
Ruffin quickly recanted to his father, who didn't tell the detectives his son had taken back his confession, according to prosecutors' report. The teen went on to testify at his trial that he didn't shoot Deligny but saw and knew the killer — his sister's boyfriend, the one who'd given police the gun, broken up into parts and stuffed into potatoes.
Jurors at Ruffin's trial heard from the boyfriend, but only about his relationships with the defendant, his sister and others in the case. When the jury was out of the room, the boyfriend invoked his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination and declined to answer other questions, including where he'd been on the night of the shooting.
Prosecutors didn't release the boyfriend's name Thursday, and the names of lawyers who have represented him weren't immediately available. He told prosecutors during their recent reinvestigation that he had nothing to do with the shooting and didn't give detectives the gun. He also said he never confessed to anyone, though prosecutors say Ruffin's stepfather, sister and late mother all have said he made admissions to them.
Asked Thursday about the boyfriend, Ruffin's lawyers noted that the prospect of any prosecution now is uncertain.
“We only wish that in 1996, Detective Scarcella and others had performed the investigation they should have and been able to get this right the first time," attorney Garrett Ordower said, noting that Deligny's family may now never have the finality of a conviction in his death.
As for Ruffin, he's focused on his future, including promotion opportunities at his job in Atlanta. His now-voided conviction, he said, “never defined me.”
“This never really spoke of the person I was or the man I was going to become,” he said. “So this, to me, is a great closure of a chapter my life, but my life is still going up.”
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REVIEW OF NOPE FROM MOVIES THAT MOVE WE
Some points without spoiling the review
8:04 or 23:44 Nike - the role of Perception in the film
25:40 Nicole - description of the films place in genres
33:35 Both- the nonchalance against common sense:) very funny
37:54 Nike- Lovely real life example of how people judge a film strictly, advertise their judgement to influence others, but don't even fully assess a film, by their own admission. But how can one recant in real time
40:16 Nicole- yes, I concur to the relationship to both Peele and the director you mention who in their time in the sun:) had the ability to make films that be thought provoking or artful WHILE also commercial. I don't think it is unimportant to say that Nope covered its cost of production.
49:44 Both - Keith David is a very fortunate thespian. Not merely being a thespian having less opportunty, cause he is black and media in the USA is owned by whites, who do favor giving opportunity to whites. But, Keith David has been able to be part of many thoughtful films in the film itself or its role in genre setting in various genres: The THing;The Live;Pitch Black;Nope<science fiction>[Keith David has successfully been a black character in a science fiction film that has lived at the end more than once, died before the 15 minute mark and died just before the end:) ] / Platoon<war film>/ Bird<documentary> [where he played a criminalized version of buster smith] /Roadhouse<action>People don't realize how some films hollywood has been heavily inspired by and never been able to repeat /The Quick and the Dead<western> [a female led western back when it wasn't so easy to see being financed]/PRincess Mononoke <anime>[the studio ghibli collection itself is something else... his voice is everywhere, ever since, and shout to tv show gargoyles]/Crash <social commentary vignettes>[hollywood has tried to find the next crash since crash]/The Inheritance<My personal favorite film with him in it, the story is a rare thing in its message>
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Title: Black YEar Round
Artist: RoseberriiDotart
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THE HISTORIC MICHIGAN STREET BAPTIST CHURCH
Yesterday, along with many other people across the city, I partook in Doors Open Buffalo where many buildings and businesses across the city--as the name suggests--opened their doors to the public. Planning on stopping at and photographing 4 or 5 churches I ended up at just this one; the Michigan Street Baptist Church.
This church is important and historic for many reasons. One is its age. The congregation was first formed in 1836 and the building itself completed in 1849. But it is the congregation itself that is important as well..this was the first black church of any denomination in the city of Buffalo. This, and also the fact that they were instrumental in the success of the Underground Railroad. Not only did they hide freed slaves, they helped get them safely across the border to Canada.
After visiting their humble sanctuary I was about to leave and move on the the next church when I heard someone say, "Don't forget to visit the basement, Bishop Henderson is giving tours."
Upon entering the small basement I saw an elderly man who looked more like a Rabbi talking with a handful of people. This was Bishop Henderson. Affiliated with the church for more than 50 years, he was a wealth of knowledge and more than eager to talk about what he knew. When I asked if he still preached he turned to me and said simply, "Why yes, I still do." He also seemed a bit surprised and shy when I asked if I could take his photo but he obliged. His first name is William and he was originally refereed to as Brother Billy because he began preaching on Buffalo's East Side street corners at the ripe age of 14 [source].
Among the many things he told us ("Should I go on?" he would ask, "because I can talk about this all day") two of the most moving things to me were the poster directly below and also the small passageway where they hid escaped slaves.
The poster is a replica of an actual one that was common of the time. There were a few deeply disturbing things the Bishop pointed out. Out of the 18 women for sale, 8 of them came with "future insurance," meaning they could still bear children. So in essence, pay for the price of one human and you have the potential of receiving more. Even more chilling is on of the descriptions for the 6 girls, "bud'n out." This meant two things. Because the girls were in puberty ("bud'n out") they were available for the slave owners personal pleasure and also had the possibility of having children; more "future insurance." He also pointed to the bottom of the poster where these humans for sale were lumped into the same category as horses, cows, hogs, bulls, goats, and even wagons.
The cramped passage in the building where they hid escaped slaves--between the foundation and a wall--was at one time covered over, the Bishop told us, but at some point years ago they uncovered it as not to forget. How could anyone possibly forget this, I thought to myself.
After spending some time listening to Bishop Henderson I left and felt sad and weak. I also felt inspired. While slavery was, as Bishop Henderson put it, "A very dark period in our country's history," and without doubt racism is alive and well in America, there is also a new awareness which to me is a new hope. Nearly all of the visitors in the church yesterday were white, which I found interesting.
As I left the church and turned and looked back the front door was open; it looked so welcoming. I felt a slight chill in the air, and I thanked our creator for the work this church has done.
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I find this story VERY interesting, for multiple reasons. So, let's look at the CNN article in the link you provided.............. Fulton County, GACNN — When Nathan Wade was appointed lead prosecutor in the Georgia election interference case in 2021 to prosecute former President Donald Trump, some of his closest allies, lawyers in Cobb County where Wade practiced law, universally wondered, “Why him?” Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis had the largest staff of any judicial circuit in Georgia, including salaried lawyers with more experience as felony prosecutors. Wade had once been a prosecutor briefly, but mostly handled misdemeanors and never such a high-profile case. More than two years later, questions are surfacing about Wade’s role. One of Trump’s co-defendants facing criminal charges over efforts to overturn the 2020 election has alleged in court papers that Wade is romantically involved with Willis and used money he billed the district attorney’s office for his work on the case to take her on lavish vacations. While the filing didn’t include direct evidence of their romantic involvement, Willis was served this week with a subpoena to appear at a deposition in Wade’s divorce proceedings. Pallavi Bailey, a spokesperson for Willis, told CNN that the office will respond to the allegations “through appropriate court filings.” Wade has not responded to CNN’s requests for comment and was smiling as he walked into a scheduled Friday afternoon motions hearing regarding multiple matters related to the case. The situation has created a political firestorm for Willis, with Trump and his co-defendant arguing Wade, Willis and the entire district attorney’s office should be taken off the case. The allegations, if true, may not derail the prosecution, but multiple lawyers tell CNN that the appearance of a conflict of interest could hurt Willis’ chances of securing a conviction before a jury. The judge overseeing the case said on Friday that he planned to hold a hearing on the allegations in early February. Former DeKalb County District Attorney Robert James does not question Wade’s qualifications but does have concerns with Willis’ decision to bring him onto the case – if the allegations of an improper relationship hold up. “If I had a personal relationship, I probably would have not done it,” James said in an interview with CNN, “not because there’s anything inappropriate about it, only because people will take it, twist it and make it look like there’s something inappropriate going on.” “It’s, just politically, is not something that I think is wise,” James said. Michael Moore, a former US Attorney in Georgia and a CNN legal analyst, said Willis should consider stepping away from the case given its high-profile nature. “I’d tell her to get out of the case. I really think in this type of case with these allegations, this case is bigger than any one prosecutor,” Moore told CNN. “And I think probably to preserve the case to show what’s most important to her is the facts of the Trump case as opposed to her political career if you will at this moment.” On Friday, the Republican chair of the House Judiciary Committee, Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, sent a letter requesting that Wade turn over documents and communications pertaining to the Georgia investigation into Trump’s effort to overturn the 2020 election. Republicans on the Judiciary Committee have long sought to undermine the credibility of Willis’ case. Her office has rebuffed previous demands from Jordan’s asking for documents. An undisclosed contact with White House The allegations against Willis and Wade came in a 127-page court filing this week from Michael Roman, a former Trump 2020 campaign official who was indicted over his role in the fake electors plot in Georgia. Trump’s team is actively considering whether to join Roman’s motion, a move that would represent a formal endorsement of its allegations about both Wade and Willis, according to two sources familiar with the matter. But there is no sign Trump is in a rush – he can amplify these allegations publicly with little legal risk while waiting to see how the DA’s team responds, the sources said. A Cobb County court has a hearing scheduled January 31 to address Roman’s motion to unseal documents in Wade’s divorce case. Trump and his political allies are also seizing on entries in Wade’s expense reports that show previously undisclosed contact between Fulton County prosecutors and the Biden White House, claiming they are proof of a coordinated conspiracy to tank the former president’s reelection bid. The expense reports were included as exhibits in Roman’s filing, showing a phone call with the White House counsel’s office in May 2022 and an “interview with DC/White House” in November 2022. White House visitor logs from November 2022 show they do not contain any entries for Nathan Wade, according to a CNN review of those records. Sources familiar with the matter tell CNN the contacts were routine, as Willis was gathering evidence and witnesses to testify before a special grand jury as part of her investigation at that time. One source said the discussions with the White House counsel’s office were about the process for contacting former Trump White House officials. ‘That’s ridiculous’ One line item stood out to multiple lawyers who reviewed Wade’s billing document included in the motion filed by Roman: On November 5, 2021, Wade billed the Fulton County DA for 24 hours in a day at $250 per hour. “That’s ridiculous,” Fulton County criminal defense attorney Suri Chada Jimenez told CNN. “He could have billed 12 hours at $500 and that’s more credible and along with the rate of other lawyers.” CNN has not been able to confirm what Wade did that day, but it was almost half a year before the special purpose grand jury was empaneled with investigative powers to spearhead exploring whether crimes were committed in Georgia by Trump and his associates. Over the past two years, Wade has earned more than $650,000 for his work on the case, according to Roman’s filing which includes invoices from Wade’s firm. The filing alleges that Wade made more than other prosecutors in the DA’s office. “Prosecutors must be held to the highest standard because unlike us poor defense lawyers they get to take away people’s liberty,” criminal defense attorney Scott Grubman told CNN. Grubman faced off against Wade as the former defense attorney for one-time Trump co-defendant Ken Chesebro, who struck a plea deal with Willis’ team last year. Others who know Wade and spoke to CNN on conditions of anonymity now worry the allegations could taint Fulton prosecutors’ case against Trump. “Now, you’ve made it that much harder at having a chance at securing any sort of conviction,” a lawyer who knows Wade personally told CNN. “It’s disappointing.” Previous missteps This is not the first criticism of missteps against Willis and Wade to surface in the high-profile case. In 2022, Fulton County Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney, the judge who oversaw the initial investigation by Fulton prosecutors which lead to the historic state charges, disqualified Willis from pursuing charges against Georgia state Sen. Burt Jones, who also served as a pro-Trump fake elector. The judge’s decision came after Willis held a fundraiser for Jones’ Democratic political opponent and later informed the state Senator, he was a target of her probe. In a court hearing on the issue, McBurney criticized Willis for hosting the fundraiser for a Democratic candidate running against one of the investigation’s potential targets. “It’s a ‘What are you thinking?’ moment,” McBurney said. “The optics are horrific.” And last year, multiple defendants in the election subversion case complained after they received an advertisement brochure mailer at their homes from Wade & Campbell, Nathan Wade’s Atlanta-based defense firm. Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee, who oversees the Fulton case, rejected requests from several defendants in the Georgia election subversion case to have a hearing about the brochure to try to force some type of punishment. McAfee said the incident was “embarrassing” for prosecutors, but did not find proof it was intentional. “While presumably embarrassing on the part of Special Prosecutor Wade and his firm, this case should not be sidetracked by matters which facially lack merit,” McAfee wrote in his September 2023 order. Who is Nathan Wade Wade’s biography on the website of his Atlanta law firm Wade & Campbell describes him as a “former prosecutor and trial attorney” who is a “skilled negotiator who knows when to take a case to trial.” He was appointed to oversee the 2020 election subversion investigation by Willis in late 2021, as their special purpose grand jury investigation was ramping up. Wade & Campbell’s website says the partnership focuses on personal injury, contract litigation law, family and domestic law, and criminal defense. And says that Wade serves as Associate Municipal Court Judge and Pro Has State Court Judge in Cobb County. Manny Arora, a defense attorney who also worked with Grubman representing Chesebro before he negotiated a plea deal, told CNN he is more concerned by Wade’s “utter lack of experience” more so than the alleged affair and potential payments being made. “The bigger concern (than the alleged affair and financial payments) is hiring an attorney to handle the biggest RICO case, possibly in the history of US jurisprudence, when that counsel has never handled a RICO case before,” Arora told CNN. John Floyd, a lawyer with deep expertise in racketeering cases, joined Willis’ team in 2021 to focus on the Trump case as well as others, including Willis’ gang indictment against the rapper Young Thug. Lead prosecutor in Georgia election subversion case under scrutiny over alleged affair with DA | CNN Politics
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SISTER ACT review on Movies that move we
3:29 I do have a question of the legitimacy of the ignorant spouse/girlfriend/boyfriend character in films? Can a mob man that brazzen really keep his activities secret? hmmm 4:35 haha bette midler was cast first, of course throw away role 5:10 Dolores , has whoopie ever explained the source of this 5:50 didn't know about Carrie Fisher 6:50 whoopie sang all her parts, wow! didn't know about the other 7:47 that is a great story, I will love to have seen them, dancing on the tables when they won:) *:23 yes, your right I will:) even though you told me before:) haha 8:25 25 years that show been on , wow! 9:20 that is a great question, with audio copying, I guess it fell like the rest of audio recording industry 10:47 didn't know they came out back to back , love lauryn hill 11:23 sister act 2 may challenge parents with teenage kids:) 12:02 it was relatives who introduced me to both films.
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Pronpt: drawing , thick lines, white background, only color is red from paint dripping, featuring punisher from marvel with a city apart of his jacket.
Starting to feel bad for artist cause these came out amazing.a computer returned the following
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I am an artist, don't feel bad, star trek's holodeck has the same idea as this computer generated interpretation. certain computers today have enough memory plus speed to accept literal statements and compute based on their data storage plus algorithms the literal statements into graphical images. enjoy use it. if anyone wants to draw they still can,no is has halted the ability of anyone to draw straight from their imagination. but, for those who are not artists, now they have the computer to make art they want and if the computer isn't close enough, you can go to artists and have them make details changes. for example, if you want the punisher's cityscape jacket to have a particular skyline with certain buildings certain places you can go to an artists and they can manipulate it. Don't feel bad. enjoy the modern tools, enjoy their financial affordability, if you can remember the computer isn't an artist it isn't imagining anything, and if you want specifics that the computer is having trouble reaching, human artists are out there with the skills to adjust the base image.IN AMENDMENT
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please reiterate this to all the AI haters that want to be offended on your behalf. They swear it's an affront to all artists that use "natural" mediums. I'm pretty sure inkers & pencilers felt this way once digital showed up
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in the usa, many workers in many manufacturing or mining towns have been waiting for jobs for fifty or forty years. They are joined by inkers and painters, and in twenty years will probably be joined by truckers/taxi drivers. Your correct, people online spew a wild violent negativity, unwilling to comprehend a person who supports what they oppose, to be patient to their own lives delicacy , to not be afraid. And some people simply like to spread negativity as loud as possible especially online while they are very secure offline . But the negative vibe about computer made art is in a long line of labor group complaints energized by an ever growing populace of people who are being told all is for the collective better while they know they are not too big to fail. I admit I am lucky. I have never been hungry. I have never been told my artistic desires are unworthy or have no value. And I have a loving home where even when things go against me or not conveniently I have people offline who comfort my fears or worries. but most people in the usa don't have that and thus the vibe. Sad. And, the solution sadly is not through online discourse, it is through CEO's elected officials managing industries better. Why didn't the usa government pay for artists in college or working in firms as digital art arose, to have free digital drawing pads plus software from sea to shining sea, every state? why didn't they force firms to pay to make sure their entire labor force including retired employees had tablets plus software. move the labor force into the industry and the labor force will not be as threatened. And if the job pool is gone, which is usual, the government need to pay to redirect people, reach to them, firms don't have to care as much, but a truly caring government should.
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Well, he is a big dude sitting in that high chair blocking the view of people behind him. If it was one of those stairs where you select your seats and I was sitting behind him, I would’ve been pissed. I could definitely see them asking him to move. maybe sit in the back. The minimum wage employees probably were not sophisticated enough to try to understand why somebody will bring a big ass chair to the theater like that deal with any “accommodations.” I’m sure they had no idea who he was. calling the police seems to be an overreaction but what you expect. I don’t think his prominence, or lack there of, should’ve been a factor how they treated him. As with most things on the web the entire situation, is more nuanced than the title exclaims. I’d argue it’s not even news worthy at this point. it is just sensationalism praying on peoples emotions.
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ProfD AfroAmericans aren't going to fight with Latinos over who gets to work at McDonald's. But that's part of the problem..... When was the last time you saw AfroAmericans fight with Latinos over ANY kind of job? Infact when have you seen them fight with Latinos over JOBS, HOUSING, GOVERNMENT GRANTS, or anything else? If AfroAmericans are the ONLY "competition", it seems as if much of the time....Latinos just move in and select what they like with NO competition at all. Some long tall nigga with a sloppy afro standing up at the cash register with a paper cap on his head taking your order one day....the next day somebody 2 feet shorter with an accent and no neck is trying to take it and you can barely understand what the hell he's saying. Meanwhile, you see the afro nigga walking in to get is LAST pay check and give up a little dap to his former co-workers as he leaves the building. If I'm still alive 22 years, I definitely won't be working anywhere unless I lose it all and end up: Well, Trading Places is an appropriate movie for this conversation...lol. Because that's EXACTLY what Latinos are being brought in here for. To TRADE PLACES with AfroAmericans. .....if we let it happen.
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Why Would A Religion From God Need To Evolve?
Pioneer1 replied to Pioneer1's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
ProfD Greed, jealousy, envy and hate lead to most conflicts. You know, as I get older I get wiser and have more insight to what causes certain reactions and effects. Based on my observations, I would have to say Greed and Jealousy causes more SUCCESS than conflict. Hate and MISUNDERSTANDINGS/CONFUSION causes most conflict. Infact, misunderstandings/confusion seems to cause more conflict than hate itself. Most people who truly hate eachother just stay the hell away from eachother...lol. Like Mr.Fuller says, no contact NO CONFLICT. Yep. Peep who seems to make all of the discoveries. Lol...the one smart enough to actually RECORD them when they came across them. Remember Mr.Fuller's frequent example "Brian"? While Black folks are out partying and snapping their fingers, or arguing over the Bible...some White man named Brian would be at the microscope studying a grain of sand he found in the ocean. They'd ask him, "Hey Brian..why are you studying that grain of sand???" Brian would answer them, "Because it's there. And if it's there, there must be a purpose for it!" A lot of our people treat their discoveries like their dances. They'll invent it and then get bored with it and move on to the next one without giving it so much as a second thought. Meanwhile some goofy ass White man with his hair parted straight down the middle and a handle-bar mustache will come right behind them and steal the idea and make a name for himself with it. True that. But, some folks would rather have their own wings. Well, with all of the people who fall and injure themselves simply walking or running....imagine the amount of injuries that would accumulate if you add FLYING to the equation? Just think about the amount of electrocutions you'd get each year from people flying into power lines? Not to mention what would happen if you were caught flying around during a RAIN STORM...lol. -
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Pioneer1 replied to ProfD's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
ProfD Absolutely not. But, they're still our people. They need the most help and shouldn't be mistreated. The type of help many of THEM need involves being institutionalized (for their safety as well as the community's), heavily medicated, and lots of therapy. Treating them like they're perfectly normal and fine IS mistreating them. Fortunately, they cannot afford to live in my community You'd be SURPRISED who may end up moving next door to you one day...lol. You know Deonte and Demonte know how to work that joy-stick enough to make some of those rich widows and suburban housewives move them in and even give them an allowance and let them drive their nice cars. Gigilo'ing is in FULL EFFECT. Don't be surprised if you look up one day and see some dude in a doo-rag and wife-beater smoking a blunt while walking a poodle down the street and straight cussing it out.....lol -
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ProfD Murder rate is higher due to extenuating circumstances...poverty and drugs. ...all the more reasons why THAT era may have been better for our people than THIS one. Not only a lower homicide rate, but less poverty and drugs to fuel it. Many of those children were lazy and/or got hooked on drugs and lost their inheritance to gentrification. Like most good strategists, it seems that the White racists use a MULTI-TACTIC approach to disenfranchise the seemingly thriving and progressive AfroAmerican population of the early 1900s. They weren't going to put all of their eggs in ONE basket and think ONLY DRUGS or ONLY GENTRIFICATION or ONLY LYNCHING would do the trick. They were going throw ALL THEY COULD into the mix to make sure the job gets done. AfroAmericans fighting tooth and nail to hold on to 2nd class like flying Southwest airlines. At this point....it's more like SPIRIT Airlines...lol. AfroAmericans aren't on code among themselves. We need to build alliances among ourselves before we branch out. I think I mentioned this a year ago, but at this point...we may not be able to afford to WAIT on AfroAmericans as a community to get on code. We may have to count our losses and unite with who we DO have available, even if it's only 25% of the population...and move forward with our agenda AND make alliances with members of other races willing to help. AfroAmerican parents encouraged their children to get a good education so they could 1) find a good job and 2) not expect an inheritance and 3) be able take care of them (parents) in old age. Many of them were naive and gullible. Like Neely Fuller Jr. keeps trying to tell us, they didn't understand Racism and HOW IT WORKS. So many of them were CONFUSED. They really thought that getting a good education was to key to getting along with and getting a job under White folks. If they would have listened to The Honorable Booker T. Washington and The Honorable Marcus Garvey and focused on building THEIR OWN society in America instead of trying to integrate into White folks' society....they and their children and grand children would have been much better off. -
I am fortunate, I know my parents parents story. I know the partial story of my parents/parents/parents. Charles Blow talks about black people moving back to the south, the article is linked below. But for me he dysfunctionally misses the motivation for most blacks. Yes, black people were and are financially poorer than whites in the usa, but black people fled the south because of whites. I will never forget the fortune of speaking to a family friend who said all the women in his black town was raped by white men, all, and yes, he was high yella. Black people in modernity love to talk about hanging or death or electrocution when it comes to the past. But, while the african american museum has an artwork for the number of hangings, is their enough space for an artwork representing the number of sexual violations by whites to blacks, all gender? IS their enough space for an artwork representing all the limbs whites took off black bodies? If you are a black DOSer and you want to live in the southern states, that is your business, but please refrain from suggesting black people in the past were simply in idyllic towns with the only harm of fiscal poverty about them. You don't need to lie about the past to make a future in spite of the past. And to that end, I said in this community black people in the usa need a party of governance. I emailed Blow my thoughts, his email is in the bottom link below. But, I don't comprehend how black people like him can call on black people to move back into the south and yet have no support for a black party of governance. After all the history in the usa, including obama, black people actually think if they had the majority populace in a state in the union that either donkeys or elephants should be the party that black elected representatives utilize? Seems silly to me. @ProfD plus @Pioneer1 discuss jonathan majors and how black people in government didn't help him.but again, i know of members of the donkeys or elephants in nyc who are non black while also people of color, they don't help their own. AOC isn't lifting the puerto rican community in the bronx. Asian elected officials didn't protect asian business from federal attacks during the covid. The one thing that troubles me is how black people actually think non blacks help their own , in nyc, they do not. And that explains why all the populaces seem , as media states, unconcerned. blacks + non blacks don't engage with the government cause all, ALL, the elected officials, from all the races do nothing. Black people's only flaw is many of us seem to think that non blacks are performing miracles for their communities, when they are not. article https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2549&type=status
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If you are a DOSer, why did your forebears leave the south?
Troy replied to richardmurray's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
Both of my parents permanently left he south in the late 50's. Neither ever had an interest in going back. My dad grew up impoverished and my mother was raised on a farm -- life styles they were both happy to leave behind. Combined they left 19 siblings, none of whom ever moved north of the Mason Dixon line. They most left rural southern location and closer to southen cities, Raliegh, Shreveport, Atlanta, Charlotte. Ultimately, the majority of my parents siblings fared much better in life. My parents never owned a home, car, took vacations, or had luxuries of any kind, but my sister and I always had a roof over our head, never went hungry, and we both graduated from college. It is not likely I will ever move north again. I would need some serious paper to even consider it. -
MOVIES THAT MOVE WE with Nike Ma and Nicole Decandas , discuss Alien vs Predator They discuss Sanaa Lathan as a Black female lead in said film and the film itself , enjoy To view the video discussion use the link below https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=1855&type=status
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@ProfD you said the ethiopians parents wanted him raised to be something else, no, they didn't. they didn't see the value in emphasizing the culture of their forebears. Which ... the funny thing is, the black dos community publicly spoke against black dialects of english, publicly spoke against black spirituality or cultures that black dosers had before the war between the states. Yes, medgar evers name is on buildings throughout the usa while the black community he fought for in mississippi/alabama/lousiana is still suffering, terribly. that is not true, he has been given many accolades by many groups. I have seen him, he has many strangers looking to him. My point is, which you miss for some reason is that the ethiopian wouldn't suffer a sundown town, he would leave. Medgar evers comprehended that a people who learn to immigrate between states, flee from one state in the union to another, move from one state in the union to another, is dysfunctional. A large part of the black populace, fled the south from fear but by doing so, created two minority situations. a minorty populace in the south under a white community used to abusing /killing/enslaving it + a minority populace outside the south under a white community who didn't want them as neighbors [which black people forget, most whites in the north tried their best to stop black people from moving out the south] and who criminalized them as much as possible to deter any betterment.
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MOVIES THAT MOVE WE with Nike Ma and Nicole Decandas , discuss Alien vs Predaotr
My thoughts with time indexes as I listened
circa 3:47
Its funny, Black people in terms of film have an interesting relationship with the room in the house of fantasy called science fiction.
When I think of Body and Soul, Sankofa, Daughters of the Dust, black people are more interested in dream fiction, which is in fantasy, more than science fiction.circa 4:06
As I ponder Nichelle Nichols I realize in cheap retrospect what many Black people see, what MArtin Luther King jr. saw, and what I don't like.
Nichelle Nichols in star trek, the original series, is interesting cause she is so lauded by Black people, including me, yet the production is in many ways something between anti-black or not pro black.
To be blunt, Black people in the USA love Nichelle Nichols as Uhura because as a thespian or the character itself, she represents what they want. The Black Individual in the USA doesn't need or exclusively want a star ship designed by black people, populaced by black officers, in Black interstellar law enforcement agency or governmental union.
The Black people in the USA are content with Black people living happy, or respected aside non Blacks in a ship not designed by blacks, in a ship mostly populated by non blacks, in a non black interstellar organization or law enforcment organization.
It is not that Black people in the USA do not want the black designed ship, with the black crew , with the black interstellar organization, but they are content to live as individuals without it, hoping or knowing it will happen one day.
I don't like that, but that is the potency of Nichelle Nichols as Uhuracirca 4:32
The terms science fiction or fantasy have commonly accepted definitions but are in no way bounded to the common definitions.
I define for this section fantasy as any film that involves the unreal, so aliens/monsters/psycopaths any unreal character, including faux biographcal characters is fantasy.
Musicals I define as films where exhibitions of songs are inacted by thespians in the film on more than one occasion, thus seven brides for seven brothers <which I never saw, but I recall the title>, Purple Rain, west side story are musicals. The fifth element, footloose, the color purple, ray are not musicals based on my definition.
I will not speak for Nike, but when I say major production in USA cinema, I refer to volume of money spent on the film. Blackwood, Black financed cinema in the usa, is historically in comparison to Hollywood,white financed cinema in the USA, lower budget. But I do not concur with comparing Black cinema to white cinema financially in the usa. The distinction of Black cinema in the usa is it is historically with the leanest finances, thus expensive fantastic productions are not possible. Thus why Dream Fiction is so popular in Black Cinema: Body and Soul, Sankofa, Daughters of the Dust, Ceddo , Emitai
In the USA no high budget Hollywood film involving what is commonly called science fiction had a black female lead before sanaa lathan. Dionna Ross was in a high budget film , but the WIZ is commonly considered a musical or fantasy film, not science fiction, in the USA.
Oddly enough, the journey of Dorothy is a dream journey which is historically interesting with the prevalence of dream fiction in Black cinema.circa 5:38
Nicole asked a historical question. She asked, I paraphrase her, Black people are usually cast in Hollywood, note I define hollywood as white financed cinema in the USA, in dramatic or comedy roles but to what extent are Black thespians comfortable or the Black audience comfortable with Science fiction?
I recall Eddie Murphy saying he turned down who framed roger rabbit based on the screenplay he received or pitch he got, and he didn't buy it. The white actor, bob hoskins, who played the role Murphy let go ,oddly enough to my themes, was in a movie in 1986 called Mona Lisa, which is a dream fiction film.
So Eddie Murphy's admitted career choices show Black thespians have doubts. I add, Denzel Washington turned down Seven, which Morgan Freeman did. Sequentially, "the nutty professor" or "doctor dolittle" from Murphy or "the little things" from Washington.
In defense to Murphy or Denzel, I read screenplays. And if you ever read the original screenplay of 1986 legend, by Hjortsberg , you will realize how what thespians are originally pitched can be far away from what is finally produced.
Now, why does that matter? To Nicole's point, Black Thespians based on the two examples I gave maintain the Black labor mentality in the USA. The Black labor mentality is based on the fact that Black people rarely are the owners, thus our employment is never secure and must be merited. Sequentially, as a thespian, mistakes are costly in a career. Sequentially, Black Thespians don't take the risks that early scripts present themselves to be.
As for the Black audience, the Black audience was always ready, but only recently had the money.circa 6:51
Nike spoke on Black Panther and how a question existed in media. The question was: if people, I will define people as ticket buyers to films, was ready for an all black cast superhero film, I define ready as willing to buy tickets?
The reality is , consumers are always artistically ready, but not always financially able. I restate, Black people always wanted to see Black people in everything. But Black people didn't have the money, nor did the non black ticket buyers show the willingness to buy a ticket for an all black high budget film in the past.
But past the year 2020 when Blacks in: Africa,Europe, the Americas, Asia are all financially potent, let alone capable, they have the money to buy the tickets.
And, non Black ticket buyers past the year 2020 are willing to buy an all Black cast.Circa 7:52
Nike states Hollywood, I defined it earlier, does not feel non blacks are willing to pay a ticket to see Black leads today. I concur. But I will say in the fantasy film realm, especially, that some Black creators haven't helped.
From Poitier in the film "The Longships" <oh the Black Moor:) forgive me> to Sayles, a white director, "Brother from another planet" starring Jellyroll Morton to Wesley SNipes as Blade, Black thespians have taken fantasy roles seriously.
But from "Cleopatra Jones" to "The Adventures of Pluto Nash" to "Fat Albert" to "MEtero Man" Black creators or thespians have played fantasy roles in a comedic way that hurts the role.
To be blunt, fantasy can easily become comedy, as it is easy to laugh at the unreal. To many examples of Black thespians making a fantasy role comedic exists.
And that is why Sanaa LAthan's heroine in Alien vs PRedator is a great role. She is Black, she is a woman, the film is a hollywood high budget, but she isn't comedic. While she still offers the full range of emotions through the character's scenes, from funny, to sexy, to brave, to afraid, to legendary.circa 8:42
Nicole makes the point, I restate her, Black money has finally reached a point where it can influence larger fields in the film universe.
The 1970s Hollywood films involving or starring Black thespians, commonly called Blaxploitation, was reflected on greater Black revenue in theaters as well as white ticket buyers willingness to buy said hollywood films with black thespians. How many white women know the Shaft song?circa 10:39
They , Nike side Nicole, speak on Sanaa Lathan's preparation, and how they felt she forced some of her lines. Sanaa was inexperienced in the genre. When you look at Sigourney Weaver in Aliens as compared to Alien you see what having one of these in the belt means. But they do make a great comparison between LAthan in "Alien vs PRedator" in comparison to Angela Bassett in "What's love got to do with it".
My only issue is I would had compared Sanaa LAthan in "Alien Vs PRedator" to Angela BAssett in "Strange Days" . Yes, Ralph Fiennes was the lead thespian but Angela Bassett was totally convincing as the single mom black security driver who has a unrequited love to a man who earned her respect and is going through his own internal chaos while los angeles is going through a potential phenotypical war, and the man in question happens to be white.
I argue it will be nice to see if Angela BAssett was called for Alien vs PRedator and did any casting tests.circa 12:10
Nicole side Nike go over Sanaa Lathan in films like "Disappearing Acts" or "Brown Sugar"circa 12:25
Everyone wish Nicole Decandis a happy BESOONED BIRTHDAY!!! seven days from the time of this postcirca 13:31
They talked about the Alien or PRedator franchise and whether the story for Alien vs PRedator helped Sanna LAthan.
I saw all the Predator films or the ALien films 1 to 3 before this film.
It is a standalone, it refers to either film franchises but doesn't own either. It is standalone and even alludes, in location, to the legendary story "who goes there" more commonly known in the film world as the "the thing from another world" or "the thing"circa 15:52
I want to merely repeat what Nike stated about a film I will not type out in name, but say it is the supposed sequel to Alien vs PRedator.
It didn't need to happen.
Those who know about an annihilation, that is a clue , know what I am talking about. How can all that is good be killed in a sequel? It makes wrath of khan look magical.circa 16:04
I don't rate or star films, enjoy Nike or Nicole's rating.
My review is, if you are looking for a fun action film ride, Alien vs Predator is a fun ride. If you are a hardcoreAlien or PRedator fan that wants the details followed, this movie isn't for you.
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After Reading your reply, my first thought was, what does it take to have a film environment.
you said Black people were not on many screens in sci fi films or films in general. That is true, but it means you need a place to show films.
you said Black people didn't run film studioes or have financing to make equal budget films. That is true, but how cheap can one make a film.
You said you don't comprehend expecting a blackwood. But was a Blackwood impossible before modernity, meaning the last forty years.
Now you say, the internet provides possibilities. And I concur, but does that mean a Blackwood was impossible in the past.
Now you say you want to enjoy a science fiction film first and be happy for who participates in it second. I am 100% certain most black people, over 90%, in the usa and definitely in the white countries in humanity, USA/UK/France/Brasil et cetera, concur to you.
And yes, Nollywood exists today, though they don't make blunt science fiction films. Many people in the usa consider Daughters of the dust a science fiction film so the artistic debate I will leave alone.
But, was it possible to have black financed/directed/produced/acted, ala a Black Wood?
Now, body and SOul by Micheaux to Meteor Man from townsend prove, Black people did make movies from the silent to today, with financial or quality standards that are on par to what audiences may have expected.
But, if the BlackWood was created, how could it be?
The questions are:
Where to show the films?
Who to make the films?
Who to finance the films?
How to distribute the films?
My quickest answers,
Where to show the films?
From the 1970s to the end of the war between the states, the most prolific places in the black community, that black people had control over was black churches. Black churches are the theaters. Take a wall, color it white, project on it. If someone has a white curtain use that. Now the white law will definitely find the act of a church theater fiscally improper, so show the films for free, people need popcorn, water, vending is the roots of retail. A person with a little cart is as ancient as the pyramids. Nothing bars the church from having a small set of vendors outside. The vendors are free to donate to the church some of their revenue.
Who to make the films?
I think many Black people made films, but it was common Black folk, not the OScar Micheaux's or Robert Townsends of the world. And, if you have a video recorder, then you have all it takes to make a film, starting with yourself. animation is not new, I know for certain black people near 100 years old recall seeing animation as a child in NYC alone so I know it isn't fantastical. Common Black folk made films. Maybe not close encounters of the third kind in production level, but artistic display isn't about competition it is about creation. if you don't create it doesn't exists.
Who to finance the films?
Black businesses are not new. The Black people who financed MLK jr, the Nation of Islam, Madame CJ Walker has her old house upstate new york. Somebody black had enough money to make a small production film, every year since circa 1865. Now again, do they have hollywood money? no. But is the goal a blackwood or the goal competition with hollywood.
How to distribute the films?
Oscar Michaeux's films were all found in Europe , not the usa. so somebody copied them and I think oscar micheaux knew who. so, I can't believe later, the ability to copy a film and send to the churches was beyond the means for the Black community in the USA.
Thus, in my view, a Blackwood should had existed already in the USA from the Black community in it. Now some caveats. yes, the Black community in the USA from the Negro leagues to my potential Blackwood are more interested in Black people aside whites than Black people alone. But, I think Black churches, showing films by Black people, spending money to make copies based on word of mouth, with small revenues was sustainable. I didn't even add historical Black colleges for the southern Black populace, which is historically or modernly the largest in the USA per a region. I can't deny many Black people wouldn't care, or would snub. But I think the model was sustainable... if attempted.
South side home movies project
Comment about making a Black Wood source
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Supporting the point , above,below shows a section of a screenshot at the website linked below. the south side of chicago has 215 surviving films. I can't imagine other Black communities were less involved. Thus, from new york city to los angeles, i say thousands of home movies.
Now utilizing the system I spoke of above, a Black Wood , with Black production/direction/action is clearly feasible in the past, but it was attempted, and that lack of attempt is the lesson.
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