President Michelle Obama

[Pioneer1]

If the Democrats want to win...Biden has gotta go.
He needs to drop out the race or they need to invoke the 25th Amendment and get him out.

And they don't have too much time to do it.

As for his replacement........

Harris is a MAYBE but I'm not sure if she is trusted enough to gain the popular support needed to defeat Trump.

Michelle Obama....on the other hand...does.

I think she's more trustworthy, less likely to play games with the GOP, and on top of that is SLEEPING WITH one of the best political advisor you could offer....lol.

The cherry on top is that she's an FBA sista from the hood of Chicago.

Unlike her husband or Kamala, she's a STRAIGHT UP Soul Sista with little admixture.
There is no mistaking what SHE identifies as...lol.
 

[ProfD]

While they are more than qualified to do the job, white America isn't ready for a female POTUS of any color.

 

Democrats will hand the White House back to the raggedy azz GOP on a silver platter if they nominate a woman.

 

VP Harris and  former FLOTUS Obama are the *wrong* color.  Gov. Whitmer claims she's not interested during this cycle. 

 

It would be interesting if former FLOTUS Michelle Obama was nominated. Even better if she flipped the script and won in a landslide. That would be great. 

 

We can dream....

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

 

We're almost there already, Jim Crow Joe JUST dropped out!

Whitmer wouldn't be too bad.
She's doing an "alright" job as Governor of Michigan and the Republicans hate her, so she must be doing something right.

I have a little issue with her not locking up those armed rednecks who showed up at the state Capital back in 2020, but I won't hold it against her.
She chose a Black Lt.Governor and spends a lot of time in Detroit.

No, Obama is my girl.
I'm pushing hard for her to get in.

I'd take Harris over Trump, but I ain't gonna vote for her.

As far as a woman becoming President, I don't think MOST Americans have a problem with it.
Maybe a few old fashioned so-called "traditionalists" do, but the vast majority of Americans grew up with working and single mothers, so they grew up seeing women handling business.
Not to mention women managers and supervisor and business owners.

I don't think being a female would be a major problem.

[aka Contrarian]

On 7/20/2024 at 6:29 PM, ProfD said:

While they are more than qualified to do the job, white America isn't ready for a female POTUS of 

@ProfDAgreed. I don't know that the undecided male voters  who Dems need to swing left can be counted on to rally behind Kamala.

And I question whether Michelle is  qualified. She is not up on foreign policy and is neither aggressive nor intimidating but was someone who stood around mewing that when they go "low", we go,"high".  Not the kind of toughness necessary to do battle with Trump and his cronies who would be amused by her civility.  Most of all, she's adamant about  not wanting the job. She apparently knows her limitations.

 

[ProfD]

 

6 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said:

And I question whether Michelle is  qualified.

I give benefit of doubt because she's smart and unlike many FLOTUS, she stayed up late at night helping POTUS Obama with his homework.

 

I think Michelle Obama could be brought up to speed on foreign policy. But, as you've mentioned...she's not interested in the gig. Makes no sense for us to dream about or wish for it.

 

The GOP plays dirty pool. I don't blame Michelle for living her best life away from DC.

[Troy]

Michelle Obama being nominated is a fantasy not even worth indulging.  

 

Kamala is far more qualified than Obama was when he first ran for POTUS. 

 

We will not likely ever elect the "best" person for this particular job. The system is completely screwed up.

[nels]

23 hours ago, Troy said:

Kamala is far more qualified

Seriously? This statement isn't even worth the temptation to insult.

On 7/20/2024 at 11:52 AM, Pioneer1 said:

Michelle Obama

Michelle Obama is at the bottom of the barrel, just like her deceiving husband who duped black America into voting for him twice. The Obamas are nothing but spineless manipulative puppets.

[Troy]

16 minutes ago, nels said:

Seriously? This statement isn't even worth the temptation to insult.

 

Go ahead give it a shot. I think someone who is a sitting VP has more relevant experience that a Jr senator.

 

19 minutes ago, nels said:

The Obamas are nothing but spineless manipulative puppets.

 

Spineless?  Based upon what?

[aka Contrarian]

@TroyDon't expect anything but a lot of misogynistic ad hominem tripe from nels if he responds at all to your challenge about Kamala and Obama's qualifications. 

I am not a big fan of Kamala Harris because I'm a catty female. Truth be told, VP Harris has a superb resume when it comes to being qualified for office.  nels' excoriation of  Obama is motivated, above all, by jealousy. 

nels needs to go take a seat next  to Tim Scott, Byron Donalds, and that airhead Amber Rose over there  in the "colored only" section of the Retrumpican party.  

[ProfD]

19 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

Truth be told, VP Harris has a superb resume when it comes to being qualified for office. 

Facts.  She ticks the boxes in terms of credentials. 

 

VP Harris is far more qualified than both former FLOTUS Obama and the Orange Jackazz on the other side.

 

I know there's nothing she can do about that nasally voice of hers.  I just wish the words that came out of her mouth were more intelligible.

 

The sad reality is that even she gets elected POTUS, VP Harris won't be overly interested in doing much to help AfroAmericans.

[Troy]

On 7/21/2024 at 3:07 PM, Pioneer1 said:

I'd take Harris over Trump, but I ain't gonna vote for her

 
Unfortunately, you have to vote for her man.

 

1 hour ago, ProfD said:

The sad reality is that even she gets elected POTUS, VP Harris won't be overly interested in doing much to help AfroAmericans.

That would be par for the course.

[ProfD]

51 minutes ago, Troy said:

 Unfortunately, you have to vote for her man.

That would be par for the course.

The question remains why do we have to vote for these folks who clearly do nothing specifically for AfroAmericans but help other groups of people.

[Troy]

What is the option?

[ProfD]

7 minutes ago, Troy said:

What is the option?

Don't vote for anyone until they can give tangible benefits. Not just an alternative to the other person.

[Troy]

Ok ’d failed to code that option.

[aka Contrarian]

@ProfD: If all these black men bail on Harris, and she still wins, what  the hell does she owe them?

 

If black men are instrumental in a Trump win, what the hell will this do for any Blacks other than bible thumping homophobes and pseudo pro-lifers and misogynistic chauvinistic brothas? 

Black women will not have control over their bodies, and black Gays will be subjected to persecution and black school children will still underperform. And forget reparations. Very little in Plan 2025 benefits Blacks. (Maybe chances of marrying a white woman will remain stable.)

 

This same old tired black narrative in regard to expectations from political parties reminds me of why I divorced the black race. 

 

[ProfD]

14 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said:

@ProfD: If all these black men bail on Harris, and she still wins, what  the hell does she owe them?

The same thing she's going to promise Black men...nothing.

14 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said:

If black men are instrumental in a Trump win, what the hell will this do for any Blacks other than bible thumping homophobes and pseudo pro-lifers and misogynistic chauvinistic brothas? 

It will do nothing for any Blacks folks.

14 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said:

Black women will not have control over their bodies, and black Gays will be subjected to persecution and black school children will still underperform.

The current administration flopped on Roe v Wade. They aren't doing much to stop the GOP majority Congess and conservative SCOTUS from flipping the script on other freedoms. 

14 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said:

And forget reparations.

Reparations should be the #1 priority of AfroAmericans regardless of gender. That issue alone would bring out the true colors of every politician. 

14 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said:

Very little in Plan 2025 benefits Blacks.

Par for the course. The Democrats aren't offering Black folks anything either. 

14 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said:

This same old tired black narrative in regard to expectations from political parties reminds me of why I divorced the black race. 

Still, the question remains ...what's the point of voting for either party without expectations.

 

What do Black men stand to gain in voting for either party?

 

Politicians are bought by special interest groups for one reason only...what they can do for them. 

 

Black folks aren't the primary donors to either political party. Just a monolithic voting block favoring the lesser of two evils.

 

Black folks haven't used their political power correctly in 50 years and counting. Both political parties are aware of it.

 

However, there is hope for the younger generation of Black folks. They aren't shackled by memories of the Civil Rights movement.

 

Younger Black folks won't be guilted into voting just because "somebody died for their right to vote". They're asking the right question...what is the benefit to them.

 

The Black  Boomer and prior generation voting block doesn't have too many elections left. Whichever way this country is headed won't affect them. Not to worry...the kids will be all right.

[aka Contrarian]

@ProfD: This particular election  isn't about bargaining with special interest groups in exchange for their voting bloc. It's about retaining a leadership that will stave off a takeover of a democratic government by a coalition of right-wing Evangelical Conservatives  who want to Make America Great Again under the dictatorship of Donald Trump! We anti-Trumpers are all in this fight together. Forget the ambiguous demands of Blacks whose middle class is bristling with people livng their best lives, and whose underclass is robbing and carjacking, and settling grievances with guns because -  it's easier to do bad than good. Beating Trump takes priority over all this in-fighting. We have to come together as one to defeat tRump and what he represents. 

 

As for what the future holds, I hope the younger generation does move forward with a different mindset, and sorts all this BS out.

 

But, if it doesn't, then - tough shit.

zzzzzzzzzz. 

[ProfD]

7 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

@ProfD: This particular election  isn't about bargaining with special interest groups in exchange for their voting bloc.

Every election, Black folks have been told to vote against the opposition and expect nothing in return.

 

The only thing Black folks have received in return is a few crumbs, symbolism and tokenism.

7 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

It's about retaining a leadership that will stave off a takeover of a democratic government...

The Democratic leadership has proven to be weak and spineless.

7 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

...Make America Great Again under the dictatorship of Donald Trump! We anti-Trumpers are all in this fight together.

Fear-mongering is the latest ploy for getting Black folks to vote against the Orange Jackazz.

 

Black folks already know what to expect if he returns to the White House....nothing.

 

Life won't get any better or worse for us. Holding pattern.

 

7 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

Forget the ambiguous demands of Blacks...

That's been an ongoing problem for decades now. Those demands need to be codified in order to realize tangible benefits. 

7 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

Beating Trump takes priority over all this in-fighting. We have to come together as one to defeat tRump and what he represents.

Scaring Black folks into voting for a do nothing political party in opposition to the Boogeyman isn't going to work this time. 

 

White folks will ultimately decide if America maintains the facade of a democracy or flirts with neo-fascism.

 

If America goes in that direction, the 4 years will go by faster than a fart in a tornado. 

 

Regardless, the situation for Black folks in America will remain unchanged. We'll be all right.

[aka Contrarian]

@ProdD: Your arguments can't be  deconstructed because you remain in denial about the true fabric of the Democratic party. Your narrative  also conveniently ignores what Democrats have done for the Blacks it is made up of. Your reparations pipe dream seems to have skewed your perspective. 

You will never be placated by any  party in this country because your demands are not in proportion to the percentage of the population that Blacks represent. Your sense of black entitlement rivals the toxicity of white privilege. Get real.

 

In the process of time bringing change, I predict  African Americans will eventually be absorbed into the mainstream and Life will go on.

 

In the meantime, since you think it's all about fear mongering and that a Trump presidency poses no threat to the personal freedoms of all Americans, then don't vote. Go play your piano and mow your lawns and let others worry about the restrictions of a "great again" America. It's not as if you can't flee to Canada.

 

Me, I can only hope that I wont be on the scene when the shit hits the fan.

[ProfD]

16 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

@ProdD: Your arguments can't be  deconstructed because you remain in denial about the true fabric of the Democratic party. Your narrative  also conveniently ignores what Democrats have done for the Blacks it is made up of.

Love the typo...ProdD.

 

I'm fully aware of how and why Black folks flock to the Democratic party.

 

It's similar to the reason poor white folks are Republican. 

 

16 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

You will never be placated by any  party in this country...

Right. Mainly because I see both political parties as two sides of the same coin especially when it comes to Black folks.

16 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

Your sense of black entitlement rivals the toxicity of white privilege. Get real.

Reparations is a debt America owes to Black folks.

 

From emancipation to present, like a trust fund, white  privilege still benefits from the compound imterest generated by slave labor.

 

16 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

In the process of time bringing change, I predict  African Americans will eventually be absorbed into the mainstream and Life will go on.

You're right. Both political parties are working towards that end state ultimately to evaporate the idea of reparations and further marginalize Black folks.

16 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

In the meantime, since you think it's all about fear mongering and that a Trump presidency poses no threat to the personal freedoms of all Americans, then don't vote.

I can exercise my right to vote without being delusional when it comes to the game being played by the political parties. 

16 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

Go play your piano and mow your lawns and let others worry about the restrictions of a "great again" America. It's not as if you can't flee to Canada.

Sure. I'm fortunate enough to have options regardless of which way America goes.

 

Having survived growing up in the hood, I'm not one to flee anywhere. 

 

Now, if I decided to take a vacation, I'd go to Africa to chilll among Black folks. Too many white folks in Canada.

16 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

Me, I can only hope that I wont be on the scene when the shit hits the fan.

Being retired and living on a pension, you won't get sprayed if sh8t starts flying and/or hits the fan.

[nels]

On 7/23/2024 at 3:40 PM, Troy said:

someone who is a sitting VP

Really? Okay, go ahead and give this one a shot. I'm not even going to try and rationalize what you said. Oh, and good luck with that train of thought.

 

‘She thinks there’s a cloud’: Kamala Harris mocked over cloud storage explanation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmrySyvOOqk

[nels]

On 7/23/2024 at 3:40 PM, Troy said:

Based upon what?

Harry Reid orchestrated the rise of Barack Obama much to Black America's detriment, but will Black America every see why the Obama's are actually monsters in Barney the Dinosaur suits? There's a lot more to come regarding the Harry Reid - Barack Obama story to come.

 

In new epilogue, Reid recounts encouraging Obama to run
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2009/apr/26/new-epilogue-reid-recounts-encouraging-obama-run/

 

Obama shares last poignant letter to Harry Reid: 'I wouldn't have been president had it not been for your encouragement and support'
https://www.businessinsider.com/obama-shares-personal-letter-harry-reid-passing-president-2021-12?op=1

 

Reid apologizes for racial remarks about Obama during campaign
"The authors quote Reid as saying privately that Obama, as a black candidate, could be successful thanks, in part, to his "light-skinned" appearance and speaking patterns "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.""
https://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/01/09/obama.reid/index.html