Pioneer1 Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 With all of this talk of UFOs, UAPs, and these "drones" flying around the Eastcoast, I look at it THIS way..... If you're coming here to help us...then HELP. UFOs existed...during Slavery UFOs existed...during the Holocaust UFOs existed...when the U.S. nuked Hiroshima UFOs existed...during the Genocide in Rwanda You OBSERVED these events take place, but you didn't stop them. Why not? What EXACTLY is your purpose for coming here? A woman is being severely abused by her husband. It happens over and over again and she cries out for help. I send a well trained well armed professional officer inside her home. The abusive husband slows down a little bit, but then continues to beat her some more. The well armed well trained officer stands there looking at him beating the shit out of this woman and instead of stopping it...we WRITES DOWN the situation and records it. Each and every beating is MONITORED by this "professional" officer. WTF??? What good was he? What was his purpose for even BEING there if he wasn't going to stop the shit from happening in the first place? My idea of help isn't standing (or flying) around "monitoring" and "observing" what these devils are doing but actually STOPPING them from doing it and HEALING the oppressed with your advanced technology.
ProfD Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 AS i mentioned in the other thread, if ETs exist, maybe the Supreme Being instructed them not to make contact with us. When humans go to the zoo, we're told not to touch the animals. The UAPs/UFOs are taking destination Earth vacations and doing donuts in crop fields. Interestingly, the majority of sightings are in the United States which also happens to have the most powerful military and advanced technology the planet. So, we're supposed to believe another life form builds aircraft, travels light years throughout the universe among billions of stars to come here. The math doesn't add up but human imagination isn't completely rooted in logic either.
Pioneer1 Posted January 1 Author Report Posted January 1 One of the reasons I don't believe in religion is because it allows for too much interpretation and speculation. If your religion is authentic, then the Deity you believe in should....in my opinion...CLEAR UP any confusion Themselves among the people. The fact that HUMAN BEINGS are sitting around arguing over scriptures and trying to make sense of them instead of the Deity that those scriptures are centered around, appearing before them to clear up the confusion is very telling. Along similar lines with the UFO's....... Most of the confusion about Who and What the UFOs are and what Their mission is can EASILY be cleared up....in my opinion...by Them simply manifesting Themselves before the people and making it clear Who They are and what Their mission is. No need for 2nd or 3rd party explanations....THEY can do it!
ProfD Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: If your religion is authentic, then the Deity you believe in should....in my opinion...CLEAR UP any confusion Themselves among the people. Most of the confusion about Who and What the UFOs are and what Their mission is can EASILY be cleared up....in my opinion...by Them simply manifesting Themselves before the people and making it clear Who They are and what Their mission is. No need for 2nd or 3rd party explanations....THEY can do it! Right. Religion and UAP/UFO/ET have one thing in common....no receipts from the Authority. just a bunch of humans running around making up sh8t and profiteering from it.
Troy Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Most of the confusion about Who and What the UFOs are and what Their mission is can EASILY be cleared up....in my opinion...by Them simply manifesting Themselves before the people and making it clear Who They are and what Their mission is. Again, how much time do to you spend making your intentions and mission known to worms?
Pioneer1 Posted January 1 Author Report Posted January 1 1 hour ago, Troy said: Again, how much time do to you spend making your intentions and mission known to worms? ...as much time as they needed me to, if they'd ask. Worms and humans come into contact with eachother constantly. They may not understand us, but they are totally aware of our presence when we come into contact and there is no mystery.
Troy Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: They may not understand us, but they are totally aware of our presence when we come into contact and there is no mystery. I don't think "mystery" is a concept worms are capable of experiencing. Again, how do you know that they have not been trying to communicate with us, be we simply don't have the ability to receive, interpret, or comprehend their communication. 1
Pioneer1 Posted January 2 Author Report Posted January 2 Troy Again, how do you know that they have not been trying to communicate with us, be we simply don't have the ability to receive, interpret, or comprehend their communication. I don't. However trying to establish some parallel between us and worms with ETs and us is a little speculative because it assumes that they don't understand our languages and modes of communication. They may indeed know and clearly understand all of our methods of communication and all of our languages! Infact, many people who HAVE had encounters with them say that they tend to communicate with humans TELEPATHICALLY by passing any linguistic miscommunications.
Troy Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 Yeah, all of that is possible @Pioneer1. I'm just suggesting there are other reasons they may not have communicated with us; the relative difference in intelligence. Here is a weird coincidence: Today I heard Neil degrass Tyson draw an analogy between humans and worms and us and aliens! When I picked worms, I'd considered ants, mice and other things, but I landed on worms because no one tries to communicate with worms or seem to be very interested in understanding what they are thinking? 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: Infact, many people who HAVE had encounters with them say that they tend to communicate with humans TELEPATHICALLY by passing any linguistic miscommunications. I seriously doubt any of the people are referring to actually had a direct alien encounter. If they were credible, they would have been on 60 minutes and not relegated to the National Inquirer (is that still in print?)
ProfD Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 @Troy makes a great analogy as it relates to communication. Humans project that aliens will be some type of super-humanoid who is omniscient, well versed in all languages or capable of mind-reading, plays every instrument, builds anything and knows every dance move. Humans have gone to great lengths to communicate with primates. Teaching sign language and putting clothes on them is the best we've been able to do. Only in the Planet of the Apes movies are primates almost indistinguishable from humans. ETs wouldn't even be that close if they existed.
Troy Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 27 minutes ago, ProfD said: ETs wouldn't even be that close if they existed. I agree. 37 minutes ago, ProfD said: Only in the Planet of the Apes movies are primates almost indistinguishable from humans. this is true of all but the most creative science fiction.
ProfD Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 7 minutes ago, Troy said: this is true of all but the most creative science fiction. Right. It seems human imagination always give attributes to creatures and beings to an extreme beyond our own. A frog will be able to cure diseases and pilot a spaceship.
Pioneer1 Posted January 4 Author Report Posted January 4 The Nation of Islam has another theory. They say that the pilots of these flying craft are NOT extraterrestrials but from right here on this planet. They teach that the pilots and other inhabitants of those ships are actually advanced Black Beings.
ProfD Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 14 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: The Nation of Islam has another theory. They say that the pilots of these flying craft are NOT extraterrestrials but from right here on this planet. They teach that the pilots and other inhabitants of those ships are actually advanced Black Beings. To your point, my problem with that line of belief or teaching is why those advanced Black beings haven't replaced racism white supremacy with a system of justice. Just like Religion, Science Fiction and Fantasy, Black folks create larger than life or highly intelligent figures as a form of deflection and/or escapism from reality.
frankster Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 On 12/21/2024 at 7:24 AM, Pioneer1 said: With all of this talk of UFOs, UAPs, and these "drones" flying around the Eastcoast, I look at it THIS way..... If you're coming here to help us...then HELP. They most likely are coming here to help themselves first And us second if at all and by "us" they mean all earthlings - humanity When did you ever try to free some ants from slavery or being enslaved Slave Maker Ants On 12/21/2024 at 7:24 AM, Pioneer1 said: UFOs existed...during Slavery UFOs existed...during the Holocaust UFOs existed...when the U.S. nuked Hiroshima UFOs existed...during the Genocide in Rwanda You OBSERVED these events take place, but you didn't stop them. Why not? For all I know it could have been them who taught showed and instituted the whole idea of Slavery and Genocide On 12/21/2024 at 7:24 AM, Pioneer1 said: What EXACTLY is your purpose for coming here? Usually trade study and or conquest. On 12/21/2024 at 7:24 AM, Pioneer1 said: A woman is being severely abused by her husband. It happens over and over again and she cries out for help. I send a well trained well armed professional officer inside her home. The abusive husband slows down a little bit, but then continues to beat her some more. The well armed well trained officer stands there looking at him beating the shit out of this woman and instead of stopping it...we WRITES DOWN the situation and records it. Each and every beating is MONITORED by this "professional" officer. WTF??? What good was he? What was his purpose for even BEING there if he wasn't going to stop the shit from happening in the first place? My idea of help isn't standing (or flying) around "monitoring" and "observing" what these devils are doing but actually STOPPING them from doing it and HEALING the oppressed with your advanced technology. They are various types of Interference or Intervention. You seem to be asking for Rescue not Help.....which is a form of Intervention - The Danger with Rescue is the Creation of Dependency. The best way to Help the weak is by teaching them how to Be and Become Strong. On 12/21/2024 at 8:09 AM, ProfD said: AS i mentioned in the other thread, if ETs exist, maybe the Supreme Being instructed them not to make contact with us. Rules of Engagement On 12/21/2024 at 8:09 AM, ProfD said: When humans go to the zoo, we're told not to touch the animals. The UAPs/UFOs are taking destination Earth vacations and doing donuts in crop fields. Interestingly, the majority of sightings are in the United States which also happens to have the most powerful military and advanced technology the planet. The majority of sightings that are reported or make the news are in the US. On 12/21/2024 at 8:09 AM, ProfD said: So, we're supposed to believe another life form builds aircraft, travels light years throughout the universe among billions of stars to come here. The math doesn't add up but human imagination isn't completely rooted in logic either. You do not have to believe....probable their maths is a little different On 1/1/2025 at 7:40 AM, Pioneer1 said: One of the reasons I don't believe in religion is because it allows for too much interpretation and speculation. Religions tends to survive 1000's of years and various cultures and languages....hence the issues you cite On 1/1/2025 at 7:40 AM, Pioneer1 said: If your religion is authentic, then the Deity you believe in should....in my opinion...CLEAR UP any confusion Themselves among the people. The fact that HUMAN BEINGS are sitting around arguing over scriptures and trying to make sense of them instead of the Deity that those scriptures are centered around, appearing before them to clear up the confusion is very telling. Deities tend to Speak and often act through Human Agencies....the further you are away from the Original Source the more indirect is the communication. The Deities are always around....Most of us are unable to hear or communicate with them - even then when we do we suffer under a cultural bias On 1/1/2025 at 7:40 AM, Pioneer1 said: Along similar lines with the UFO's....... UFO are a little different....They tend to be discreet Entities - While Deities tend to be Forces of Nature On 1/1/2025 at 7:40 AM, Pioneer1 said: Most of the confusion about Who and What the UFOs are and what Their mission is can EASILY be cleared up....in my opinion...by Them simply manifesting Themselves before the people and making it clear Who They are and what Their mission is. It has been done several times already....some have been killed others captured and turn into guinea pigs/lap rats - and the whole thing swept under the rug as mass hysteria and imagination running wild. On 1/1/2025 at 7:40 AM, Pioneer1 said: No need for 2nd or 3rd party explanations....THEY can do it! For what ever reason it seems they wont or cant. On 1/1/2025 at 10:17 AM, ProfD said: Right. Religion and UAP/UFO/ET have one thing in common....no receipts from the Authority. just a bunch of humans running around making up sh8t and profiteering from it. Exactly...... no receipts from the earthly authorities. But Many from the people. On 1/1/2025 at 1:44 PM, Troy said: Again, how much time do to you spend making your intentions and mission known to worms? True On 1/1/2025 at 2:58 PM, Pioneer1 said: ...as much time as they needed me to, if they'd ask. Worms and humans come into contact with eachother constantly. Yes after it rains and when we digging in the earth On 1/1/2025 at 2:58 PM, Pioneer1 said: They may not understand us, but they are totally aware of our presence when we come into contact and there is no mystery. True....but exactly how do they perceive us. Interesting Tibetans cannot harm worms-7 Years in Tibet On 1/1/2025 at 6:07 PM, Troy said: I don't think "mystery" is a concept worms are capable of experiencing. Hmmmmmm!? On 1/1/2025 at 6:07 PM, Troy said: Again, how do you know that they have not been trying to communicate with us, be we simply don't have the ability to receive, interpret, or comprehend their communication. True On 1/1/2025 at 7:28 PM, Pioneer1 said: Troy Again, how do you know that they have not been trying to communicate with us, be we simply don't have the ability to receive, interpret, or comprehend their communication. I don't. However trying to establish some parallel between us and worms with ETs and us is a little speculative because it assumes that they don't understand our languages and modes of communication. True On 1/1/2025 at 7:28 PM, Pioneer1 said: They may indeed know and clearly understand all of our methods of communication and all of our languages! Who? Some forms of ET's should have a similar perspective on the Reality we Share as we do On 1/1/2025 at 7:28 PM, Pioneer1 said: Infact, many people who HAVE had encounters with them say that they tend to communicate with humans TELEPATHICALLY by passing any linguistic miscommunications. True On 1/1/2025 at 8:38 PM, Troy said: Yeah, all of that is possible @Pioneer1. I'm just suggesting there are other reasons they may not have communicated with us; the relative difference in intelligence. Since the amount of forms of Intelligent Life now believe to co exist with us in this galaxy is into the millions(Drake Equation)...it is more likely that some have communicated and or visit - Maybe some even living here. On 1/1/2025 at 8:38 PM, Troy said: Here is a weird coincidence: Today I heard Neil degrass Tyson draw an analogy between humans and worms and us and aliens! When I picked worms, I'd considered ants, mice and other things, but I landed on worms because no one tries to communicate with worms or seem to be very interested in understanding what they are thinking? In some cases that analogy may well be truly and equivalency On 1/1/2025 at 8:38 PM, Troy said: I seriously doubt any of the people are referring to actually had a direct alien encounter. If they were credible, they would have been on 60 minutes On 1/1/2025 at 8:38 PM, Troy said: and not relegated to the National Inquirer (is that still in print?) The National Enquirer was a propaganda out let for the CIA and various Military Intelligence Depends on how you define contact? So sixty minutes makes them credible...okay here goes lets see if this works Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs Does the above sixty minutes video convinces you to take another look or perchance change your mind???? On 1/1/2025 at 9:31 PM, ProfD said: @Troy makes a great analogy as it relates to communication. Humans project that aliens will be some type of super-humanoid who is omniscient, well versed in all languages or capable of mind-reading, plays every instrument, builds anything and knows every dance move. Some May..... while others may know different On 1/1/2025 at 9:31 PM, ProfD said: Humans have gone to great lengths to communicate with primates. Teaching sign language and putting clothes on them is the best we've been able to do. True....inter specie communication is still in its infancy. On 1/1/2025 at 9:31 PM, ProfD said: Only in the Planet of the Apes movies are primates almost indistinguishable from humans. ETs wouldn't even be that close if they existed. Those often referred to as the "Tall white Nordic" Said to be from the Pleiades seems to be almost indistinguishable from Earthly Scandinavians humans. On 1/1/2025 at 10:25 PM, ProfD said: Right. It seems human imagination always give attributes to creatures and beings to an extreme beyond our own. A frog will be able to cure diseases and pilot a spaceship. Animals etc can be trained to do many things These Rescue Dogs Have Been Trained to Drive a Car 8 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: The Nation of Islam has another theory. They say that the pilots of these flying craft are NOT extraterrestrials but from right here on this planet. They teach that the pilots and other inhabitants of those ships are actually advanced Black Beings. True.....Makes One Wonder where the idea of Wakanda came from... The idea is loosely or tangentially support by some credible individuals. 7 hours ago, ProfD said: To your point, my problem with that line of belief or teaching is why those advanced Black beings haven't replaced racism white supremacy with a system of justice. When i was a child I became so angry with mom for refusing my candy and feeding me vegetables until i understood why she did it..... or could it be a "Let them eat cake" Mentality Is the expression of One Human being's disdain for another.... 7 hours ago, ProfD said: Just like Religion, Science Fiction and Fantasy, Black folks create larger than life or highly intelligent figures as a form of deflection and/or escapism from reality. I Shared that fear.
Pioneer1 Posted January 5 Author Report Posted January 5 ProfD To your point, my problem with that line of belief or teaching is why those advanced Black beings haven't replaced racism white supremacy with a system of justice. Excellent question! Just like Religion, Science Fiction and Fantasy, Black folks create larger than life or highly intelligent figures as a form of deflection and/or escapism from reality. Like I said, it comes out of laziness. However the funny thing is... When it comes to a White man doing him wrong, a nigga will wait on "Jesus" to take care of him and fight his battle for him. But if YOU do him wrong, he doesn't wait on "Jesus"...he's at your doorstep in 15 minutes trying to get you to come outside...lol frankster They most likely are coming here to help themselves first Who said they needed help? Did they? And us second if at all and by "us" they mean all earthlings - humanity I'm not sure if "all" Earthlings actually need help. When did you ever try to free some ants from slavery or being enslaved When did you ever hear them ASK to be freed? Usually trade study and or conquest. Did they tell you that, or is that a speculation? You seem to be asking for Rescue not Help.....which is a form of Intervention - The Danger with Rescue is the Creation of Dependency. Along that line of thinking... Are you suggesting that EMT services be eliminated because accident victims and other victims of trauma may become dependent on the emergency help they receive? The best way to Help the weak is by teaching them how to Be and Become Strong. Ok. So are they doing THAT, then? When is the next training class for Earthlings hosted by Aliens on how to become strong, and how do I sign up? Religions tends to survive 1000's of years and various cultures and languages....hence the issues you cite Right. They tend to last longer than the people who believe in and practice them. The early Christians believed that Jesus was on his way back to Earth....2000 plus years and many many generations later...many of them are STILL looking up at the sky waiting on him to come back. It has been done several times already....some have been killed others captured and turn into guinea pigs/lap rats - and the whole thing swept under the rug as mass hysteria and imagination running wild. Are you saying this was done to the Beings of the UFO's, or the humans who reported them?
frankster Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: frankster They most likely are coming here to help themselves first Who said they needed help? Did they? The fact that they are coming here says that... 5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: And us second if at all and by "us" they mean all earthlings - humanity I'm not sure if "all" Earthlings actually need help. You speak for all earthlings? 5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: When did you ever try to free some ants from slavery or being enslaved When did you ever hear them ASK to be freed? I Never heard them...Is that why you don't try and free them? So if someone meets in an accidents and is incapable of communicating that they need help....my guess is you not going to help ? 5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Usually trade study and or conquest. Did they tell you that, or is that a speculation? No they did not tell me that. Yes it is my Speculation 5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: You seem to be asking for Rescue not Help.....which is a form of Intervention - The Danger with Rescue is the Creation of Dependency. Along that line of thinking... Are you suggesting that EMT services be eliminated because accident victims and other victims of trauma may become dependent on the emergency help they receive? They receive help not Rescue 5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: The best way to Help the weak is by teaching them how to Be and Become Strong. Ok. So are they doing THAT, then? That would be my guess 5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: When is the next training class for Earthlings hosted by Aliens on how to become strong, and how do I sign up? No need to sign up.....sit quietly be still and listen. 5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Religions tends to survive 1000's of years and various cultures and languages....hence the issues you cite Right. They tend to last longer than the people who believe in and practice them. The early Christians believed that Jesus was on his way back to Earth....2000 plus years and many many generations later...many of them are STILL looking up at the sky waiting on him to come back. They are obviously looking for their reward. I never knew The Christ left. 5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: It has been done several times already....some have been killed others captured and turn into guinea pigs/lap rats - and the whole thing swept under the rug as mass hysteria and imagination running wild. Are you saying this was done to the Beings of the UFO's, or the humans who reported them? Both
Pioneer1 Posted January 5 Author Report Posted January 5 frankster The fact that they are coming here says that... Just because someone comes sailing through another environment, doesn't necessarily mean they're coming to look for help. When you see the police sliding through your neighborhood...doesn't mean they're looking for "help" does it? You speak for all earthlings? No. That's why I said I'M NOT SURE that all Earthlings need help. I Never heard them...Is that why you don't try and free them? I didn't try to "free" them because I didn't know they were in bondage. Are they? If you never heard from them, how do you know their state? So if someone meets in an accidents and is incapable of communicating that they need help....my guess is you not going to help ? If they are in an accident and I can CLEARLY SEE they are in need of help, I will do what I can. What's clearly UNDERSTOOD doesn't need to be SAID. No they did not tell me that. Yes it is my Speculation Thanks for clarifying that. So...at what point does "help" or them "needing help" as you suggested earlier, come into the picture? They receive help not Rescue Sometimes help IS to be rescued. If a man is ice fishing and falls through the ice, how do you "help" him? He doesn't need FINANCIAL help. You don't hold out a card to a financial guru that'll help him get his credit together and hope he can stop thrashing around and having seizures from the ice cold water long enough to mutter out a "thanks for the help big pimpin' ". No...you RESCUE him! In this case RESCUE = HELP That would be my guess Who? Espanol = Quien? Tell me who these Beings have helped to go from weak to strong. No need to sign up.....sit quietly be still and listen. Ok, I'm quiet, still, and I'm listening. Now when should I receive this knowledge? I never knew The Christ left. Did you ever know Christ, period? Or have you just READ about him. The Bible said he was TAKEN UP into a cloud. Both I take it you don't believe that these Beings are superior to humans if you think they can be captured, killed, and turned into guinea pigs.
frankster Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: frankster The fact that they are coming here says that... Just because someone comes sailing through another environment, doesn't necessarily mean they're coming to look for help. When you see the police sliding through your neighborhood...doesn't mean they're looking for "help" does it? Whether or not earth is their final destination, if it is necessary for them to come here ....then they needed something. If the police is passing through my neighborhood it is because they have to in order to get paid or get where they are going. 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: You speak for all earthlings? No. That's why I said I'M NOT SURE that all Earthlings need help. Good Well I believe all earthlings need help....whether or not that is what the aliens are about is another thing. 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: I Never heard them...Is that why you don't try and free them? I didn't try to "free" them because I didn't know they were in bondage. Are they? Well Now you Know....What you goin do? 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: if you never heard from them, how do you know their state? Well I just show you their state 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: So if someone meets in an accidents and is incapable of communicating that they need help....my guess is you not going to help ? If they are in an accident and I can CLEARLY SEE they are in need of help, I will do what I can. What's clearly UNDERSTOOD doesn't need to be SAID. Worst than an accidented happen to those Ants....the were deliberately attack and enslaved 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: No they did not tell me that. Yes it is my Speculation Thanks for clarifying that. So...at what point does "help" or them "needing help" as you suggested earlier, come into the picture? They coming here.. 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: They receive help not Rescue Sometimes help IS to be rescued. If a man is ice fishing and falls through the ice, how do you "help" him? You lend a helping hand...... 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: He doesn't need FINANCIAL help. True....at that moment you are not concern with his financial state 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: You don't hold out a card to a financial guru that'll help him get his credit together and hope he can stop thrashing around and having seizures from the ice cold water long enough to mutter out a "thanks for the help big pimpin' ". No...you RESCUE him! In this case RESCUE = HELP True....That's Emergency Help often referred to as Rescue. In My understanding ...Rescue is like when you adopt a puppy - long term involvement. Here is you list of issues:- UFOs existed...during Slavery UFOs existed...during the Holocaust UFOs existed...when the U.S. nuked Hiroshima UFOs existed...during the Genocide in Rwanda That 's prolong and extending overing various issues....Looks like you looking for a Savior 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: That would be my guess Who? Espanol = Quien? Tell me who these Beings have helped to go from weak to strong. if in a rush Interesting parts...speak to our conversation Time stamp:- 8:20 -14:32 24:55 - 26:00 In Search of Aliens: The Mystery Behind the Founding of America (S1, E8) | Full Episode 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: No need to sign up.....sit quietly be still and listen. Ok, I'm quiet, still, and I'm listening. Now when should I receive this knowledge? How long it takes dependent on the Individual.....And on the answer you seek Buddha it is said took 49 days and Jesus took 40 days When you get it you will know. 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: I never knew The Christ left. Did you ever know Christ, period? Christ is a Title 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: Or have you just READ about him. Yes 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: The Bible said he was TAKEN UP into a cloud. Yes.... Could i have chapter and verse please? 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: Both I take it you don't believe that these Beings are superior to humans if you think they can be captured, killed, and turned into guinea pigs. They are mortal....They have access to more advance tech and knowledge than we do They are not superior to us...just different - not unlike how we differ as people nations ethnicity and specie
Pioneer1 Posted January 6 Author Report Posted January 6 frankster Whether or not earth is their final destination, if it is necessary for them to come here ....then they needed something. I agree, IF it's necessary for them to come here. But WHO TOLD YOU that it was "necessary" for them to come here? Did they? Well I believe all earthlings need help....whether or not that is what the aliens are about is another thing. You can believe what you wish. But like me, you don't speak for all Earthlings. Well Now you Know....What you goin do? Correction: I DON'T know. And that video hasn't changed my mind, lol. Well I just show you their state You showed a VIDEO. We don't even know how authentic it is. They coming here. Some of them are ALREADY here. What are the ones already here doing to help us? True....That's Emergency Help often referred to as Rescue. In My understanding ...Rescue is like when you adopt a puppy - long term involvement. We need BOTH....emergency AND long term involvement. We need them to get the oppressors off of us quick fast and in a hurry, AND long term training on how to build up a new and better civilization for ourselves. Looks like you looking for a Savior If you believe in scripture, YOU should be too. Buddha it is said took 49 days and Jesus took 40 days When you get it you will know. Have YOU gotten it? And if so, what examples can you point to of your putting it to effective use? Christ is a Title True. The word is actually related to King Cyrus of Persia. Could i have chapter and verse please? Acts 1:9 "After saying this, Jesus was taken up while those who had gathered together were watching, and a cloud took him out of their sight" They are mortal....They have access to more advance tech and knowledge than we do Seems to me that more advanced technology would keep all of them from being captured, killed, or experimented upon.
ProfD Posted January 7 Report Posted January 7 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: Seems to me that more advanced technology would keep all of them from being captured, killed, or experimented upon. During your hiatus, brotha @frankster and I were chopping it up about the UAP/UFO/ET thing. Nevermind that I don't believe ETs exist at all. Admittedly, I don't smoke kush either. But, for the sake of discussion, I find it hard to believe that a higher form of intelligence could 1) build a spacecraft capable of traveling light-years, 2) crash land on Earth out of millions of planets and 3) be captured, experimented on and/or killed by humans. The chain of custody is too long. The math doesn't add up. But, like religion, science-fiction, fantasy and anything else, I can see the money being generated in spreading it.
Pioneer1 Posted January 7 Author Report Posted January 7 Prof D Nevermind that I don't believe ETs exist at all. Admittedly, I don't smoke kush either. "Uhh huhh, see there... That's why you HAVEN'T been hearing from them!" Start smoking the same thing frankster be smoking and you'll no longer doubt their existence because you'll probably be hearing something from them EVERY night. ....especially when you turn out the lights.
ProfD Posted January 7 Report Posted January 7 48 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: "Uhh huhh, see there... That's why you HAVEN'T been hearing from them!" Start smoking...you'll no longer doubt their existence because you'll probably be hearing something from them EVERY night. ....especially when you turn out the lights. Music is my opiate. I can get higher than a UAP/UFO while playing piano. Every now and then, I'll turn off the lights and play some out there Jazz. The UAP/EFO/ET still don't show up.
Pioneer1 Posted January 7 Author Report Posted January 7 ProfD .....try smoking what HE'S smoking, I bet they'll show up by the dozens. Like mushrooms after a rainstorm. 1
frankster Posted January 7 Report Posted January 7 1 hour ago, ProfD said: During your hiatus, brotha @frankster and I were chopping it up about the UAP/UFO/ET thing. We are I hope 1 hour ago, ProfD said: Nevermind that I don't believe ETs exist at all. Admittedly, I don't smoke kush either. How you going to see them without kush 1 hour ago, ProfD said: But, for the sake of discussion, I find it hard to believe that a higher form of intelligence could 1) build a spacecraft capable of traveling light-years, 2) crash land on Earth out of millions of planets and 3) be captured, experimented on and/or killed by humans. I for the life of me can't see why this is your hang up....anyway to each his own Technology is a tool...Tools are often traded.... The knowledge and understanding that goes into making that tool is not required to be able to use that tool. So from back yard junk spare parts hold together by hope and a prayer types maybe coming here to.........highly developed well funded types Yep....if a jet crashes in the am*zon today and is lost if they not survivalist/military type people on but plain old mom pop types....dead with in amonth Check out the following....You think many or any of these individuals using cell tech knows about bits algorithm computer science etc https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1982307858454997 https://www.instagram.com/jnicas/reel/C7xWjx9yAW8/?hl=en 1 hour ago, ProfD said: The chain of custody is too long. The math doesn't add up. You seem to think there only certain specifics ways that Intelligent Beings can come into technology... 1 hour ago, ProfD said: But, like religion, science-fiction, fantasy and anything else, I can see the money being generated in spreading it. Then follow the money.... 2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: frankster Whether or not earth is their final destination, if it is necessary for them to come here ....then they needed something. I agree, IF it's necessary for them to come here. But WHO TOLD YOU that it was "necessary" for them to come here? Did they? The mere fact that they came demonstrates the Necessity They came perhaps some lost their way....crashed here - They have now come/came here. Others may have come direct... I harbor no doubt in my mind.....they did Come Go and Stay 2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Well I believe all earthlings need help....whether or not that is what the aliens are about is another thing. You can believe what you wish. I do.. 2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: But like me, you don't speak for all Earthlings. True.. 2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Well Now you Know....What you goin do? Correction: I DON'T know. And that video hasn't changed my mind, lol. Maybe the Dogon story will.. if in a rush check it out Time Stamp 4:00 - 7:05 Dogon tribe & the Sirius mystery 2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Well I just show you their state You showed a VIDEO. We don't even know how authentic it is. It is now your job to find if this injustice is occurring and rescue them ants....and start scouring the for other sources of such injustices... 2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: They coming here. Some of them are ALREADY here. What are the ones already here doing to help us? Anything and Everything....I do know that according to the bible they love coooochie 2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: True....That's Emergency Help often referred to as Rescue. In My understanding ...Rescue is like when you adopt a puppy - long term involvement. We need BOTH....emergency AND long term involvement. We need them to get the oppressors off of us quick fast and in a hurry, AND long term training on how to build up a new and better civilization for ourselves. Exactly you asking for Rescue... Not sure if that's what I would want 2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Looks like you looking for a Savior If you believe in scripture, YOU should be too. I am...but One where We are our own Savior. 2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Buddha it is said took 49 days and Jesus took 40 days When you get it you will know. Have YOU gotten it? And if so, what examples can you point to of your putting it to effective use? I aint never sit still for more than hour much more 40 days...Listening for the "The small quiet still voice" - no I haven't gotten it I am going to need some real strong kush for dat 2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Christ is a Title True. The word is actually related to King Cyrus of Persia. Yes probable meaning Chosen/Anointed as in King....but is that the Origin of the Word. 2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Could i have chapter and verse please? Acts 1:9 "After saying this, Jesus was taken up while those who had gathered together were watching, and a cloud took him out of their sight" First one looks like a cloud to me 2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: They are mortal....They have access to more advance tech and knowledge than we do Seems to me that more advanced technology would keep all of them from being captured, killed, or experimented upon. Yes it would in the vast majority of cases....but not all - levels of developments differ. If You have a million flights of alien beings coming to earth from all part of the galaxy a certain percent going experience some type of failure.... 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: Prof D Nevermind that I don't believe ETs exist at all. Admittedly, I don't smoke kush either. "Uhh huhh, see there... That's why you HAVEN'T been hearing from them!" Start smoking the same thing frankster be smoking and you'll no longer doubt their existence because you'll probably be hearing something from them EVERY night. ....especially when you turn out the lights. Opening up that Mind.....Just don't open too wide 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: ProfD .....try smoking what HE'S smoking, I bet they'll show up by the dozens. Like mushrooms after a rainstorm. Yes Sir....they will
ProfD Posted January 7 Report Posted January 7 15 minutes ago, frankster said: We are I hope Of course, I enjoy the chop up regardless of whether or not we agree. 15 minutes ago, frankster said: How you going to see them without kush I'm going to rely on the senses that have gotten me this far. 15 minutes ago, frankster said: I for the life of me can't see why this is your hang up....anyway to each his own Don't look at it as a hang up. It's my applied logic to the unknown without receipts. 15 minutes ago, frankster said: Technology is a tool...Tools are often traded.... The knowledge and understanding that goes into making that tool is not required to be able to use that tool. Very few of us can show up at the airport and tell the pilot to move over mayne, I'm gonna fly this bird today. 15 minutes ago, frankster said: So from back yard junk spare parts hold together by hope and a prayer types maybe coming here to.........highly developed well funded types ETs can take the equivalent of spare parts gathered from a back yard, cobble it together and be capable of traveling light-years throughout the universe. But, they cannot build it from scratch. Also, this cobbled together craft won't be detected on any of the most advanced radar systems. 15 minutes ago, frankster said: You seem to think there only certain specifics ways that Intelligent Beings can come into technology... I think ETs would have their own technology if they're intelligent enough to use spare parts. 15 minutes ago, frankster said: If You have a million flights of alien beings coming to earth from all part of the galaxy a certain percent going experience some type of failure.... They're definitely going to experience failures flying around in junk crafts. It would be more plausible to believe ETs capable of living for billions of years hopped aboard a meteor and crash landed on Earth. Those ETs have been living underground the whole time. Every now and then, they come up and hijack military aircraft to fly around as UAP/UFO. There goes a million dollar movie or book idea.
frankster Posted January 7 Report Posted January 7 3 minutes ago, ProfD said: Of course, I enjoy the chop up regardless of whether or not we agree. cool 3 minutes ago, ProfD said: I'm going to rely on the senses that have gotten me this far. cool but remember what Einstein said....."you cant use the same kind of thinking to solve a problem, that caused the problem" Can't really see how my eistein quote relates but chalk it up to kush 3 minutes ago, ProfD said: Don't look at it as a hang up. It's my applied logic to the unknown without receipts. I know...I just think it is flawed. 3 minutes ago, ProfD said: Very few of us can show up at the airport and tell the pilot to move over mayne, I'm gonna fly this bird today. Yes...true but did you know that planes have autopilot for yrs now and cars just getting autodrive??? now any mom and pop can buy a small plane and learned to fly it....now they can fly as far as it will take them Imagine then I live in a civilization where crafts with warp drives are plentiful readily available and accessible like used cars and planes are today. Now Mom and Pop can jump from star system to star system. 3 minutes ago, ProfD said: ETs can take the equivalent of spare parts gathered from a back yard, cobble it together and be capable of traveling light-years throughout the universe. But, they cannot build it from scratch. Yeah it done all over this globe every day....The average age of a car in Cuba is almost 70 yrs - You think OEM is still making those parts?? - Standardization. Maybe they can by new parts or old parts 3 minutes ago, ProfD said: Also, this cobbled together craft won't be detected on any of the most advanced radar systems. Some will some won't be detected... Well we seeing more of them now because our tech has gone up....we reportedly shot down a few too 3 minutes ago, ProfD said: I think ETs would have their own technology if they're intelligent enough to use spare parts. Yes...it may take a whole infrastructure in some cases and in others maybe only a small if any real infrastructure. 3 minutes ago, ProfD said: They're definitely going to experience failures flying around in junk crafts. Even new crafts fail some of the time - lemon law 3 minutes ago, ProfD said: It would be more plausible to believe ETs capable of living for billions of years hopped aboard a meteor and crash landed on Earth. cool that can happen too.....though it sounds more like - panspermia 3 minutes ago, ProfD said: Those ETs have been living underground the whole time. Every now and then, they come up and hijack military aircraft to fly around as UAP/UFO. There goes a million dollar movie or book idea. Real life is all ways stranger than fiction..
ProfD Posted January 7 Report Posted January 7 1 hour ago, frankster said: but did you know that planes have autopilot for yrs now and cars just getting autodrive??? Sure. To date, the airline industry hasn't laid off it's pilots in favor of the robot. 1 hour ago, frankster said: now any mom and pop can buy a small plane and learned to fly it....now they can fly as far as it will take them Used planes aren't flying off the lots any faster than cars, trucks and RVs. 1 hour ago, frankster said: Imagine then I live in a civilization where crafts with warp drives are plentiful readily available and accessible like used cars and planes are today. Now Mom and Pop can jump from star system to star system. Imagine is the key word. There's no shortage of books and movies with warp drive crafts traveling among the stars. 1 hour ago, frankster said: Yeah it done all over this globe every day....The average age of a car in Cuba is almost 70 yrs - You think OEM is still making those parts?? - Standardization. Maybe they can by new parts or old parts There's no shortage of old and aftermarket parts available for all kinds of vehicles. 1 hour ago, frankster said: Well we seeing more of them now because our tech has gone up....we reportedly shot down a few too I'm fairly certain what people will be seeing is more gravitic propulsion system drones. Military stuff. 1 hour ago, frankster said: Even new crafts fail some of the time - lemon law Sure. Human crafts fail. Lemon laws apply. However, the QC for ET crafts that have to travel light-years throughout the universe would have to be on another level. 1 hour ago, frankster said: cool that can happen too.....though it sounds more like - panspermia Panspermia equally far-fetched is still more plausible than ETs building crafts elsewhere in the universe and flying here in a lemon. 1 hour ago, frankster said: Real life is all ways stranger than fiction.. Everything in real life has an explanation. Fiction is a distortion of real life. The land of make believe.
frankster Posted January 7 Report Posted January 7 14 hours ago, ProfD said: Sure. To date, the airline industry hasn't laid off it's pilots in favor of the robot. True... Often The more sophisticate the tool ....easy it is to use 14 hours ago, ProfD said: Used planes aren't flying off the lots any faster than cars, trucks and RVs. True... Thing is how available they are and accessible 14 hours ago, ProfD said: Imagine is the key word. There's no shortage of books and movies with warp drive crafts traveling among the stars. I use the term "warp drive" to suffice for what ever method they use to get here 14 hours ago, ProfD said: There's no shortage of old and aftermarket parts available for all kinds of vehicles. Some are even fabricated from scratch....other may assembly parts 14 hours ago, ProfD said: I'm fairly certain what people will be seeing is more gravitic propulsion system drones. Military stuff. Of course...our tech develops. 14 hours ago, ProfD said: Sure. Human crafts fail. Lemon laws apply. Non Human one do too 14 hours ago, ProfD said: However, the QC for ET crafts that have to travel light-years throughout the universe would have to be on another level. Why?? 14 hours ago, ProfD said: Panspermia equally far-fetched is still more plausible than ETs building crafts elsewhere in the universe and flying here in a lemon. Okay They both as likely too me. 14 hours ago, ProfD said: Everything in real life has an explanation. Fiction is a distortion of real life. The land of make believe. Man flying was once a fiction....too
ProfD Posted January 7 Report Posted January 7 1 hour ago, frankster said: I use the term "warp drive" to suffice for what ever method they use to get here Warp drive traveling light-years is probably some form of wormhole manipulation. 1 hour ago, frankster said: Why?? ET spacecraft would have to be a higher standard than anything we can imagine in order to withstand physics as we know it. 1 hour ago, frankster said: Man flying was once a fiction....too Man still cannot fly without aircraft. ETs and any intelligence or technology they might have is still fiction.
Pioneer1 Posted January 8 Author Report Posted January 8 frankster The mere fact that they came demonstrates the Necessity How If I go to see a movie, does the fact that I came to the theater mean I NEEDED to go? They came perhaps some lost their way....crashed here - They have now come/came here. Others may have come direct... I harbor no doubt in my mind.....they did Come Go and Stay The fact that some come and some go isn't being disputed. The REASON is in question. You're claiming that they "needed" to come here, and I'm not so sure they did. It is now your job to find if this injustice is occurring and rescue them ants....and start scouring the for other sources of such injustices... Before I take on the task....how much does this "job" pay? Exactly you asking for Rescue... Not sure if that's what I would want Maybe they'd give each individual human an OPTION. You could choose immediate short term help or long term help. I am...but One where We are our own Savior. If you could save yourself...wouldn't you HAVE already? I aint never sit still for more than hour much more 40 days...Listening for the "The small quiet still voice" - no I haven't gotten it I am going to need some real strong kush for dat Or heroine That'll keep you quiet and still, even while standing up! And you won't have to do so for 40 days, although it may FEEL like that much time passed when you come down from it. Yes probable meaning Chosen/Anointed as in King....but is that the Origin of the Word. Christ = Cyrus = Koros Opening up that Mind.....Just don't open too wide The Mind STAYS open. When you smoke dope, you're not opening up the mind....your opening up different pathways in your brain that usually lie dormant.
ProfD Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 13 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: Or heroine That'll keep you quiet and still, even while standing up! And you won't have to do so for 40 days, although it may FEEL like that much time passed when you come down from it. Not heroin though. That sh8t will have a person on stuck for 40 minutes or longer. Straight stupor. I've seen junkies in serious nod and lean who looked like they were inches from falling to the ground. The only thing they remember upon coming down is that it's time to cop another hit. I'd imagine kush and mushrooms are better than heroin when it comes to astral travel.
Pioneer1 Posted January 8 Author Report Posted January 8 ProfD There are many drugs that probably activate a part of the brain that allows you to separate from your body, but I'd personally prefer to do so under a more clinical setting to make sure the drugs are pure, measured, and procedures are in place just in case there are any complications. Doing street drugs isn't a very good idea period because you don't really know what it's mixed with. Anyway.... So you DO believe in Astral Travel...or the Soul being able to leave the physical body?
frankster Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 On 1/7/2025 at 5:56 PM, ProfD said: Warp drive traveling light-years is probably some form of wormhole manipulation. Yes.. On 1/7/2025 at 5:56 PM, ProfD said: ET spacecraft would have to be a higher standard than anything we can imagine in order to withstand physics as we know it. Yes According to our understanding of physics On 1/7/2025 at 5:56 PM, ProfD said: Man still cannot fly without aircraft. Unaided man cannot fly....thru use tech man can fly. On 1/7/2025 at 5:56 PM, ProfD said: ETs and any intelligence or technology they might have is still fiction. Once it can be imagine it is possible... Genesis 11:6 and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. 23 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: frankster The mere fact that they came demonstrates the Necessity How If I go to see a movie, does the fact that I came to the theater mean I NEEDED to go? Is the movie showing in the theater you went to....then yes - otherwise you would not have been there 23 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: They came perhaps some lost their way....crashed here - They have now come/came here. Others may have come direct... I harbor no doubt in my mind.....they did Come Go and Stay The fact that some come and some go isn't being disputed. The REASON is in question. Why does anything explore....Curiosity - the need to know? From Knowing comes many things....food power health wealth - also the opposite. Imagine an alien train me to operate an warp drive capable vehicle and left it with me... would i turn it over to the government or sell it for couple trillion....no i would not - thats fraught with too many unknowns. I Would first start exploring the galaxy...catch me if you can 23 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: You're claiming that they "needed" to come here, and I'm not so sure they did. This is limit to those that came. Though Travel or Curiosity is not listed as a basic essential need.....I think they both are. All living things that are capable of Movement needs to move hence exploration 23 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: It is now your job to find if this injustice is occurring and rescue them ants....and start scouring the for other sources of such injustices... Before I take on the task....how much does this "job" pay? That depends on you? Make a movement out of it and start a go fund me....who knows how much you can make as you film your rescue operations and post then on youtube. 23 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Exactly you asking for Rescue... Not sure if that's what I would want Maybe they'd give each individual human an OPTION. You could choose immediate short term help or long term help. True 23 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: I am...but One where We are our own Savior. If you could save yourself...wouldn't you HAVE already? Not necessarily...... The discipline and practice it takes can be difficult and daunting...it is so much easier to just do nothing Cypher Makes a Deal With Agent Smith in Restaurant - Matrix (1999) - Movie Clip HD Scene The Matrix Cyphered Betrayal 4K 23 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: I aint never sit still for more than hour much more 40 days...Listening for the "The small quiet still voice" - no I haven't gotten it I am going to need some real strong kush for dat Or heroine Tried that ....she just took all my money She told me the nexus betwixt her nether regions lies the way to heaven...pay the toll and enter. it was not heaven...but a fleeting visit to paradise... I complained...she said the fault lies in you for first you must eat the apple....and not spill the seed - then your visit will last as long as you are a thirst I then said fool me once shame on you. 23 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: That'll keep you quiet and still, even while standing up! And you won't have to do so for 40 days, although it may FEEL like that much time passed when you come down from it. Yeah that might not work out as intended.... 23 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Yes probable meaning Chosen/Anointed as in King....but is that the Origin of the Word. Christ = Cyrus = Koros Yes My readings says it comes from the hieroglyphic KRST often pronounced karas karast krust in Ancient Egyptian it means The Anointed and Risen Osiris-sahu 23 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Opening up that Mind.....Just don't open too wide The Mind STAYS open. When you smoke dope, you're not opening up the mind....your opening up different pathways in your brain that usually lie dormant. Ok....same difference The following is purely for entertainment purposes... On 1/7/2025 at 9:48 PM, ProfD said: Not heroin though. Such short cuts need much tending and guidance ....against enslavement On 1/7/2025 at 9:48 PM, ProfD said: That sh8t will have a person on stuck for 40 minutes or longer. Straight stupor. Sleep is not what is being sought.....but Awakening On 1/7/2025 at 9:48 PM, ProfD said: I've seen junkies in serious nod and lean who looked like they were inches from falling to the ground. It is a feat of wonder On 1/7/2025 at 9:48 PM, ProfD said: The only thing they remember upon coming down is that it's time to cop another hit. Trap in an endless cycle....riding the white pony - in a Rush going where they are. On 1/7/2025 at 9:48 PM, ProfD said: I'd imagine kush and mushrooms are better than heroin when it comes to astral travel. Its even better from a state of Lucidity 2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: ProfD There are many drugs that probably activate a part of the brain that allows you to separate from your body, but I'd personally prefer to do so under a more clinical setting to make sure the drugs are pure, measured, and procedures are in place just in case there are any complications. Wise....I know just the Shaman 2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Doing street drugs isn't a very good idea period because you don't really know what it's mixed with. True one must go into the bush 2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Anyway.... So you DO believe in Astral Travel...or the Soul being able to leave the physical body? Of course it happens every time we sleep. I do not recommend any sort of drug use and the above was all for entertainment purposes only
ProfD Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: So you DO believe in Astral Travel... Of course, I do not believe in astral travel but I can see how people into kush and mushrooms might take flight. 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: or the Soul being able to leave the physical body? I believe the soul leaves the physical body when people die....FOR GOOD.
Pioneer1 Posted January 9 Author Report Posted January 9 frankster Is the movie showing in the theater you went to....then yes - otherwise you would not have been there But that still doesn't mean I NEEDED to go. I could have just WANTED to go. Why does anything explore....Curiosity - the need to know? Which is why I titled the thread: We need you HELP, not just your observation. We have problems on this planet and we need advanced HELP in solving them, not beings who just fly around looking down observing what's going on but "staying out of it" while death and destruction reigns. Imagine an alien train me to operate an warp drive capable vehicle and left it with me... Imagine a person getting trained to operate such a vehicle and then getting diagnosed with some sort of terminal disease. What good is knowing how to fly a contraption around looking down at the tops of trees if the person isn't going to be around longer than 3 months to experience it, anyway? They'd be better off CURING the person before "training" them to fly around in a contraption. Hence.... They should offer humanity CURES FOR DISEASES with their advanced technology. Cure diseases Stop wars Stop genocides That would be much better in the long run than teaching people who to fly alien spacecraft. That depends on you? If you're sure about it, then why ask the question? My readings says it comes from the hieroglyphic KRST often pronounced karas karast krust in Ancient Egyptian it means The Anointed and Risen Osiris-sahu Perhaps. Or perhaps the Persians also influenced the Egyptians in THAT particular regard since the Persian Empire included Egypt for a while and I believe both Cyrus' ruled (or atleast one of them did) when Egypt was under Persian control.
ProfD Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: We have problems on this planet and we need advanced HELP in solving them... They should offer humanity CURES FOR DISEASES with their advanced technology. Cure diseases Stop wars Stop genocides Not to get in the middle of the dialog but humans could solve 2/3 of those problems among themselves. Curing diseases is not a goal under Capitalism. Maintenance is the money-maker. Especially if it's accepted that everyone dies in end. Social Security as constructed cannot *afford* to have too many people living beyond life expectancy. I believe they could cure all diseases if population control wasn't an end goal.
frankster Posted January 11 Report Posted January 11 19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: frankster Is the movie showing in the theater you went to....then yes - otherwise you would not have been there But that still doesn't mean I NEEDED to go. I could have just WANTED to go. Where ever you are or have been is exactly where you need to be or needed to have been... The moment you arrived it moved from a want to a need 19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Why does anything explore....Curiosity - the need to know? Which is why I titled the thread: We need you HELP, not just your observation. We have problems on this planet and we need advanced HELP in solving them, not beings who just fly around looking down observing what's going on but "staying out of it" while death and destruction reigns. What we need and they need may not mutually complementary... 19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: imagine an alien train me to operate an warp drive capable vehicle and left it with me... Imagine a person getting trained to operate such a vehicle and then getting diagnosed with some sort of terminal disease. Cool...Since Warp speed is several times faster than Light - then you travel back in time to before you were sick. 19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: What good is knowing how to fly a contraption around looking down at the tops of trees if the person isn't going to be around longer than 3 months to experience it, anyway? Using Time Dilation that three months can become 300 decades 19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: They'd be better off CURING the person before "training" them to fly around in a contraption. That is between the parties involved 19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Hence.... They should offer humanity CURES FOR DISEASES with their advanced technology. Cure diseases Stop wars Stop genocides That would be much better in the long run than teaching people who to fly alien spacecraft. Again it depends on the parties involved - what is being offered and what is be asked for and what is capable Curing disease is also genocide against various forms of viruses and bacteria. 19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: That depends on you? If you're sure about it, then why ask the question? You the one asking how much it pays.... All I am saying that depends on your initiative. 19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: My readings says it comes from the hieroglyphic KRST often pronounced karas karast krust in Ancient Egyptian it means The Anointed and Risen Osiris-sahu Perhaps. Or perhaps the Persians also influenced the Egyptians in THAT particular regard since the Persian Empire included Egypt for a while and I believe both Cyrus' ruled (or atleast one of them did) when Egypt was under Persian control. The word origin has to do with mumification and the dead King coming back to life in Egypt...that's my understanding
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