TikTok Service Restored Ban Suspended

[ProfD]

The incoming POTUS will take credit for keeping the lights on at TIkTok. 

 

The CEO of TikTok will be attending pre-inauguration events too.

 

In the meantime, TikTok parent company, ByteDance, is looking for $40-$50 billion dollars to sell it to an American company.

I don't use the platform so buying into it is of no interest to me.

[Pioneer1]

I don't use the platform either.
I really don't see the attraction and popularity of it, but apparently a lot of young people love it and many are addicted to it.

When it first came out years ago all they showed about it was some Chinese girl doing some sort of dance or stretching infront of the camera with her pony tail hanging down.
That was their advertisement.
Next thing you know, folk all at work and in the shopping malls were yapping about being on Tiktok and doing live videos.

I didn't know it was owned by the Chinese government.

Why did our government even ALLOW it's citizens to have access to it in the first place if they considered it such a threat?

[ProfD]

17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Why did our government even ALLOW it's citizens to have access to it in the first place if they considered it such a threat?

Same reason a sh8tload of the cheap products sold in America are made in China.  Follow the money.

 

America doesn't see China as a real threat.  They don't want them to call in the markers (money owed) or to out-grow their britches. 

 

America creates adversaries to justify building up the military industrial complex.

 

The next best thing is proxies.  That's why America is throwing money and weapons at Ukraine and Israel. 

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

Powerful insight.
You didn't tell me anything I didn't already know but I like how you summarized it and put it in a nut shell! 

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

ProfD

Powerful insight.
You didn't tell me anything I didn't already know but I like how you summarized it and put it in a nut shell! 

Thanks. I know you're already aware of the dealy-o. 

 

America is gangsta as h8ll. Smiles on camera and bullies behind the scenes.

[Pioneer1]

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Smiles on camera and bullies behind the scenes.

 

A lady friend was talking about her friend was so fake because on the regular she had such a nasty attitude but when it came to attending important events or dealing with her clients for her career, she knew how to put on a fake smile and pretend that she's so nice, caring, and professional.
She said she couldn't stand how her friend was so fake and phoney

I said,
"I'd like to meet her!  Now that's a REAL LADY right there!"

She looked at me and said,
"Why you say that....fake as she is???"

I said,
"Because she knows how to put on a good show and act in public.
She won't embarrass you with ratchet ghetto behavior...lol."

Homegirl couldn't finish the rest of her salad after I said that....lol.



Ofcourse America knows how to smile infront of the cameras and get gangsta behind the scenes.
Smart people know HOW to act in each given setting.

 

[Troy]

On 1/19/2025 at 5:42 PM, Pioneer1 said:

I don't use the platform either.

 

TikTok is for children; of course we don’t use it. However, I did try it for a few minutes, because so many people told me it was necessary to promote books. It did not work for me. of course one could argue I wasn’t using it correctly, but given my limited resources, I figure it’s best to focus on my own platform, which is much better at reaching readers. 

 

My newsletter alone is far more effective than all of my social media combined. I send it directly to people, and there is no algorithm deciding who gets to see it. Subscribers make their own decisions.

 

 

[ProfD]

11 minutes ago, Troy said:

TikTok is for children; of course we don’t use it.

Right.  That's why POTUS OJ suspended the ban.  His son told him TikTok was necessary.  

 

Although TikTok is aimed at young people, there's no shortage of adults using the platform too. 

 

Grown azz influencers were whining about losing income if TikTok went dark.

 

Isaac Hayes III created Fanbase which is a black-owned alternative to TikTok.

[Troy]

On 1/21/2025 at 12:20 AM, ProfD said:

Fanbase which is a black-owned alternative to TikTok.

 

I'm not sure I was aware of Fanbase I know I never used the app.  We already know most Black people will use any Asian-owned comapany's product/service/business before a Black-owned one. 

 

I just created an account on Fanbase: https://www.fanbase.app/@aalbc (basically to claim my name as someone used jumped om aalbc on TicTok before I got a chance to).  I'm also using the tool to migrate my TicTok content to Fanbase.

 

In all the news coverage I heard about the TikToc shut down RedBook was the only app mentioned as where people were flocking to as a result of the shutdown.

 

On 1/21/2025 at 12:03 AM, Troy said:

However, I did try it for a few minutes, because so many people told me it was necessary to promote books. It did not work for me.

 

To be clearer.  I got more views on TicTok than any other social platform, but this did not translate into more website traffic (my goal) or sales.

[Croocked T]

I mainly tried TikTok to explore creative video editing and marketing ideas, but it wasn’t my thing either. I did notice how crucial short-form video content has become for promoting stuff online. While I don’t use TikTok actively, I’ve shifted towards creating engaging videos for other platforms, focusing on tools that help me make content efficiently without much hassle.

For editing, I found that free video editing software can be great for experimenting, especially when you’re just starting. It’s worth checking out handy guides like this one: https://www.movavi.com/learning-portal/free-video-editing-software.html . It helped me narrow down tools to fit my needs.

[Troy]

The problem with social media is the algorithm. the algorithm simply doesn’t favor people like me— a black man older than 12. But seriously whenever I see anyone, my age +/- 30 years who are actively staring at TikTok on their phone for more than 10 minutes I think there most be something wrong with them.

 

It wasn’t just Young social media influencers trying to figure out what to do when TikTok shut down mainstream publishers were frantically trying the pivot because so much of their marketing is tied up into TikTok.

I would’ve liked to have seen TikTok stay down much longer. It would’ve been an interesting social experiment.

 

[richardmurray]

@Pioneer1

On 1/19/2025 at 5:42 PM, Pioneer1 said:

I didn't know it was owned by the Chinese government.

Why did our government even ALLOW it's citizens to have access to it in the first place if they considered it such a threat?

 

tiktok was never owned by the chinese government, the firm that owns it in china is bytedance. The issue with china is the chinese constitution which is not in its first iteration but fourth, specifically gives, from the first iteration,  the chinese government control over any firm for the interest of china. This stems from the china being split into parts by outsiders including the usa before mao. No firm doing business in china or based in china is about the chinese government, it is their law, from their first constitution and has survived each constitutional restructuring. 

 

The reason is simple, most foreign websites simply don't do well. If you look at the internet all the major english speaking websites are from the usa, france/germany/uk/russia have all tried but the english market is dominated by usa websites until bytedance took their short video social media service, duayin [bad anglicized spelling] and made tiktok. Then the implications hit the usa government. The funny thing is, in parallel, the chinese government by its own law, can never allow a firm to do business in china that doesn't have a security arrangement with the government of china. 

Remember the usa federal government from its very infancy was never designed to be proactive. Rememeber, the articles of confederation was the first idea, and that was merely a militaristic function and nothing more at the federal level. Yes, the constitution gives the executive branch powers, but from the cia/fbi to executive order usa growth, to the expansion of the federal military and the expansion of powers to the president under national security or others, the federal government has grown beyond what it was intended. The idea was the governments of the states would be strong and the federal government would be this military protector to them. The federal government of the usa was never designed to be a centralized authority, like the chinese government from mao. Outside of military affairs the usa federal government is very reactionary, meaning let problems occur in the market and then fix them.

 

@Troy

On 1/21/2025 at 12:03 AM, Troy said:

TikTok is for children;

 Tiktok is for adults. It has the best numbers for youth among the big websites, especially in the usa but tiktok is heavily used by adults to.

From my point of view, it is what twitter is to blogging. The short video si what youtube never was able to implement correct. Tiktok got it correct and the algorithm tkiktok uses is key.I know quite a few artists , adult artists of various genres on there. Email newsletters is the way

do you want a follow on fanbase? tell me how the migration goes for you, i have far less tiktok content

rmemeber when facebook went down for a day.. this is the modern reality, people who have their money or their lives tied into the esocial services such that their pausal is devastating

@ProfD

On 1/21/2025 at 12:20 AM, ProfD said:

Grown azz influencers were whining about losing income if TikTok went dark.

 

Isaac Hayes III created Fanbase which is a black-owned alternative to TikTok.

whining:) the influencer industry is a multimillion dollar industry:) I wonder why you use the word whining?

Ahhh the 

I am late so all his talk of early is wasted 

https://www.fanbase.app/@RMfanbase

[Troy]

10 hours ago, richardmurray said:

Tiktok is for adults.

 

Really?  I know this is anecdotal, but unless they are trying to promote a business or perhaps using it on the DL, I don't of any my peers on TikTok.  How often do you consume "information" on TikTok.

 

I was unable to migrate my content from TicTok to Fanbase.  A validation error kept popping up.  I'd be willing to bet Bytedance disabled the feature.

 

They used to have websites that allowed you to post to all of you socials from one place.

 

It would be nice to post to all of my socials like social profiles like Black Planet: blackplanet.com/troy; Blue Sky: aalbc.bsky.social; and Fanbase: fanbase.app/@aalb… from one place.

 

I'm also convinced Elon's company deliberately locked me out of my Twitter account https://x.com/aalbc I can't even view it.  If someone can follow the link to my twitter profile and tell me the date of my last post.  That will be the date I last had access.

 

The algorithm is already bad enough.  I could care less about Twitter, but when a company as big as Twitter can exclude anyone for any reason (i.e. race) that is a problem.  If Meta or YouTube locked me, or any of us, out our accounts "just because" that is censorship.  

[ProfD]

56 minutes ago, Troy said:

The algorithm is already bad enough.  I could care less about Twitter, but when a company as big as Twitter can exclude anyone for any reason (i.e. race) that is a problem.  If Meta or YouTube locked me, or any of us, out our accounts "just because" that is censorship.  

The next 4 years could be a wild ride in that regard as oligarchs get to pick and choose freedoms.

 

This morning, I saw the handful of faces of people who could buy ByteDance i.e. TikTok.  None of them were Black.

[richardmurray]

@Troy

I am not on tiktok but i admit, my four primary online places each suit me. AALBC/Deviantart/Github/Tumblr AALBC is black owned and i do feel every single black person should be on at least one black owned website, and this one is good cause it connects to my literary life. Deviantartart because there is no place better in the english speaking internet for all art than deviantart. It is the community and variance, all artist are there, sharing, creating, it is fun and lively, not in the debate way but in the creativity way. I love that. The tiktok/facebook/twitter of the world allow for people to advertise but the larger community isn't about that. Github is for posting programs i create. It is free to host online, depending on the language so it is heaven for me. Just keep designing and creating.  Deviantart majority post are artists of all sorts posting their art. That is invigorating to see for me. Lastly Tumblr, I used that to post videos which deviantart didn't do, my animatics, but deviantart do now but i keep it and it has good art communities i am apart of. I would had said five but kobo just is a place to host books for sale or for free, not really  a social zone. 

My point, I was never a facebook or twitter user, had a profile, didn't really use, same as my tiktok, but I can tell you i know people on tiktok over thirty who are not artist trying to make a buck. I like creativity, I like nationalism, in the truest since, to create. So I will never be the best on the tiktok/twitter/facebook of the world where the averge action on the website is talk.  But I do know adults on there and also adults outside the usa are heavily on there. I see many adults outside the usa on tiktok too. i think the site has merely taken the throne from facebook/youtube/twitter

 

september 10th 2024

https://x.com/aalbc/status/1833584876953522225

before that was september 17th 2023

 

[ProfD]

TikTok seems to be great for taking advantage of 1) short attention spans and 2) instant gratification.

 

Adults have found their place on TikTok but it was definitely created for young people hence the name of it.

[richardmurray]

@Troy my content shifted over from tiktok to fanbase

[Troy]

@richardmurray that is deep. My last post on Twitter was 16 months ago. Mailchimp has a feature that allows you to share to social media directly from the app. It appears one of my post slip through that is really interesting…

 

I gave up trying to migrate my TikTok, content to fanbase. It simply didn’t work.

[richardmurray]

@Troy

from what you said i was surprised to see the one in 2024. Part of me will love to know why it got through.

 

ah ok, the thing that is telling is fanbase doesn't seem to allow for any functionality on desktop, you have to use the app, which i don't have installed.  so i can't follow or like or comment, or set up a billing account as none of that is done on a desktop.

[Troy]

5 minutes ago, richardmurray said:

fanbase doesn't seem to allow for any functionality on desktop

That’s right I can’t even upload a profile picture using the website on my desktop. I also assumed that that’s why I the migration from TikTok failed. I don’t have any social media on my cell phone.

[richardmurray]

@Troy I did the migration through desktop though. Maybe because it was later than you.