China Wrecks Zambia

[umbrarchist]

They have Tofu Dreg buildings in China, now Tofu Dreg dams in Africa.

 

 

[Pioneer1]

 

I used to think that China was trying to colonize Africa.

That in and of itself is sinister enough.
But now suspect something far more sinister than that.

I suspect that the West is trying to re-colonize Africa THROUGH China.

China takes control of an African community, funnels the resources back to China...where the West owns and operates most of the firms that USE those resources to make their goods.
They don't even want Black workers anymore.
They'd rather have Chinese workers who they feel are more docile and efficient.
The plan is to let the Chinese and Arabs go into Africa to get the resources and bring them back to "zaddy".

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

The plan is to let the Chinese and Arabs go into Africa to get the resources and bring them back to "zaddy".

African countries are allowing it happen.

 

A handful of Africans get rich from selling out their countries.  Some folks enjoy crumbs falling from the table proverbially. Others flee to other countries for a *better* life.

 

 

 

Those remaining on the continent of Africa are  struggling just to get by and live a half-way decent life.

 

I have zero sympathy for people who have a whole f8cking continent and don't control the resources on it from top to bottom. Maybe I'm jealous.

 

IMO, Africa should surpass oil rich countries in terms of wealth and quality of life for every citizen. 

[umbrarchist]

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[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

 

Not having been there let alone having closely examined the politics of various African nations...it's hard to really assess exactly what the issue is.

However it appears that atleast ONE of them is brain-drain.
Many Africans will leave their countries and not even RETURN to their nation....let alone invest money and time back into it.
And don't even talk about using some of their money to build actual schools, hospitals, and factories for their people so they don't have to jump on rafts and cross dangerous waters just to live the type of life they want.

 

In Michigan alone....
You have enough well educated Africans from different countries who are doctors, surgeons, engineers, computer programmers, lawyers, judges, scholars....you name it.
Who if they actually decided to work together could increase the wealth and prosperity of the entire continent of Africa 10 fold!

 

 

Another issue I hadn't thought about much until a brother from Zimbabwe mentioned it to me at work not too long ago was the "going back to the hood" syndrome.

A lot of the times when successful Africans go back to their old communities they get hit on by people and even by the government to give money, do favors for people, help people out.
The people crowd them so much.

And on top of that, you have jealous dusty niggaz scheming to set them up or kidnap them for money.

Reminds me of what Ice Cube said in Amerikkka's Most Wanted:

"All the old school pals and fellas are crooks.
So I get jealous looks.
They keep askin' did my head grow.
Will the boys in the 'hood have to beat down Ice Cube?

Hell no
(something something...lol) so you see it's OK
I keep my .9mm anyway.
Just incase, one of the homies wanna squab.
I'm still rollin' with the lench mob"

When you become wealthy and successful, a lot of the times the people you grew up with and around get jealous and don't LET you come back and be at peace and do nice things for the community.

You're focused on using your wealth to improve the community and uplift the joint, and they're looking at you hating and being jealous and scheming on ways to take that wealth from you if they get a chance.
 

You don't wanna kill 'em.

So you just...as hard as it is..just stay away and keep on doing you
 

That would apply to any poor environment you were fortunate enough to rise up from.

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Not having been there let alone having closely examined the politics of various African nations...it's hard to really assess exactly what the issue is.

Greedy and corrupt leaders are usually responsible for selling out their countries. 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

However it appears that atleast ONE of them is brain-drain.
Many Africans will leave their countries and not even RETURN to their nation....let alone invest money and time back into it.

African countries won't invest in their own infrastructure. Instead, they allow Chinese and Arabs to replace themselves. 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

A lot of the times when successful Africans go back to their old communities they get hit on by people and even by the government to give money, do favors for people, help people out.
The people crowd them so much.

That's gonna happen when folks are reduced to being poor. If the country did a better job of eliminating poverty, greed and corruption the people would have a better quality of life. No need to flee or beg.

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

And on top of that, you have jealous dusty niggaz scheming to set them up or kidnap them for money.

 

When you become wealthy and successful, a lot of the times the people you grew up with and around get jealous and don't LET you come back and be at peace and do nice things for the community.

No different from AfroAmericans. Athletes and entertainers have the same issues whenever they go back to their hoods.

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

You don't wanna kill 'em.

So you just...as hard as it is..just stay away and keep on doing you
 

That would apply to any poor environment you were fortunate enough to rise up from.

Right. The goal should be to change those conditions.

 

Build alliances with other folks who have made it. Reinvest in the communities as a cooperation. Not as an individual. Easy mark.

 

I believe the incoming white nationalism and supremacy on steroids will force Black folks to do something different. Survival will depend on it.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

I think you hit the nail on the head when you placed the blame and responsibility on those African governments who allow the poverty in their nations to spiral so far out of control that it creates that type of atmosphere.

If they'd actually look out for their people instead of trying to greedy up everything for themselves...and their mistresses....people wouldn't feel the need to prey on and take advantage of eachother like that.

I remember an article from back in the 80s when the chief of the Detroit Police Department (Hart) was quoted as saying that the city is one big ghetto from one end to the other or something along that line.
Here you got the chief....a Black man...allegedly calling the city he's charged with protecting...a ghetto.
With that mentality, how serious do you think he was about actually solving and lowering the crime in a place he already has a low opinion of?

Many Black and African leaders have such a low and poor opinion of their own people anyway that they could care less about their well being.
They're in that position for themselves and their immediate family and friends to steal as much wealth as they can before they're replaced or driven out in scandal.

[ProfD]

7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

African governments who allow the poverty in their nations to spiral so far out of control...

 

Many Black and African leaders have such a low and poor opinion of their own people... anyway that they could care less about their well being.

Regardless of race, human greed and indifference makes poverty even worse.

 

As I've mentioned before, Scandinavian countries have a welfare system that provides a standard minimum income, free education, free childcare and universal healthcare to its citizens. 

 

Yet, a continent rich in resources operates as if it's poor.

 

IMO, human greed across the board is to blame for all bad conditions and ills in a society.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

 

Regardless of race, human greed and indifference makes poverty even worse.

As I've mentioned before, Scandinavian countries have a welfare system that provides a standard minimum income, free education, free childcare and universal healthcare to its citizens. 

 

Well, if you remember ME mentioning before also....lol...Scandinavian countries are PROTECTED by the United States from any outside aggression.
Unlike most other nations, they don't have to spend large sums of their money on the military or weapons for protection so they can AFFORD to focus on things like the general welfare of it's citizens, Universal Healthcare, and education.
 

Also.....
Sweden, Norway, and the others Scandanavian nations are pretty much homogeneous....overwhelmingly White....so the citizens and governments don't mind spending massive amounts of money to help their own kind and people who look like them.
As more and more immigrants from Africa and Asia start pouring in though....especially from places like Somalia and Syria...watch those generous government programs all of a sudden start drying up and lose funding!

Just like America provided generous welfare and housing when the vast majority of the recipients were White....but the Blacker and Browner the recipients got the more the funding for schools and other government institutions and programs began to disappear.

Plenty of money for Ukraine.....but all of a sudden this year Social Security is insolvent and might have to be shut down.  -Da Fuck????
 

IMO, human greed across the board is to blame for all bad conditions and ills in a society.
 

You consistently mention human greed as the culprit across the board.

I'm a little curious.....
Where does LOW INTELLIGENCE.....simply not being able to think straight or well enough to either solve your problems or prevent yourself from being taken advantage of....fit on that Board of Blame?
 

[ProfD]

13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Well, if you remember ME mentioning before also....lol...Scandinavian countries are PROTECTED by the United States from any outside aggression.

Scandinavian countries don't have enemies.  It is a utopia for white folks.

13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Unlike most other nations, they don't have to spend large sums of their money on the military or weapons for protection so they can AFFORD to focus on things like the general welfare of it's citizens, Universal Healthcare, and education.

Most nations do not spend a ton of money on defense.  Only the biggest super powers do it.

 

The US spends more than any other country.  The real question is why does the US spend so much money and who are its real enemies.

 

Russia and China are considered threats. Yet, America does more business with China than several countries combined. China is the defacto US labor force. Doesn't seem like an enemy.

 

13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Also.....
Sweden, Norway, and the others Scandanavian nations are pretty much homogeneous....overwhelmingly White....so the citizens and governments don't mind spending massive amounts of money to help their own kind and people who look like them.

Bingo. I've mentioned that several times too. White folks taking care of each other.

 

13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

As more and more immigrants from Africa and Asia start pouring in though....especially from places like Somalia and Syria...watch those generous government programs all of a sudden start drying up and lose funding!

Africans and Asians should not be pouring into Scandinavian countries. They should be building their own sh8t.

13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Just like America provided generous welfare and housing when the vast majority of the recipients were White....but the Blacker and Browner the recipients got the more the funding for schools and other government institutions and programs began to disappear.

Right. Welfare in the form of goodies, guarantees and giveaways still overwhelmingly benefit the most homogeneous group of Americans...white folks.

13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Plenty of money for Ukraine.....but all of a sudden this year Social Security is insolvent and might have to be shut down.  -Da Fuck????

 

Yep. Ukraine is getting plenty money but it's definitely not to the detriment of white folks here in America. They aren't going to lose.

13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

You consistently mention human greed as the culprit across the board.

I'm a little curious.....
Where does LOW INTELLIGENCE.....simply not being able to think straight or well enough to either solve your problems or prevent yourself from being taken advantage of....fit on that Board of Blame?

Human greed creates the conditions that make it harder to get up regardless of one's intelligence. 

 

I know highly intelligent people who are more broke than a bag of glass.

 

OTOH, I also know folks with little or no education who are very well off.

 

The US has a literacy rate that is above average. Low  intelligence affects a relatively small number of people in the US population.

 

i believe fear...being afraid to do whatever it takes to become rich or wealthy is the real reason people have problems and get exploited.

 

Most people who work a job for an hourly wage will never be rich. Many of them will have just enough to survive and might struggle to make ends meet.

 

Despite trading labor for low wages, I would not consider that a sign of low intelligence. 

 

Countries are not poor due to low intelligence among its citizens. They are being exploited by the greed and corruption from their leaders.

 

An argument could be made that only people of low intelligence would be afraid to overthrow their oppressor. Then, that would indict the entire Black population on the planet.

 

Low intelligence has nothing to do with oppression. In fact, the late NF Jr. always said the people who need the most help should get it.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

Scandinavian countries don't have enemies.  It is a utopia for white folks.

 

I really thought about this statement before responding to it.
I honestly can't say that they do.
Of all the nations, perhaps the biggest threats would come from Russia or a very religious/fundamentalist Middle Eastern nation for different reasons; but even then...none of them have actually declared a Scandinavian nation their enemy. 
Not that I know of, anyway.

 

 

 

 

The US spends more than any other country.  The real question is why does the US spend so much money and who are its real enemies.

 

The U.S. doesn't have any enemy nations.
Not anymore...lol.
No nation is actually silly enough to openly be an enemy to the U.S.

The U.S. is largely conflicted with little GROUPS be they religious or criminal, who aren't really connected to a particular country but tend to dwell in certain regions.
 

 

 

 

 

Russia and China are considered threats. Yet, America does more business with China than several countries combined. China is the defacto US labor force. Doesn't seem like an enemy.

 

I agree.
Neither are actual enemies or even true adversaries to be honest.
As it has been observed, the U.S. and her firms employ more Chinese than China herself.
Not to mention all the money Chinese in America send back home to help boost the Chinese economy.

 

 

 

 

Africans and Asians should not be pouring into Scandinavian countries. They should be building their own sh8t.

 

They should be, but if the government won't do it...as individuals, you do what you gotta do.
You FLEE.
I can't get angry at a person who left their homeland in search of greener pastures. Especially if their home is in shambles and it doesn't look like it's going to get any better anytime soon.

 

 

 

 

 

Human greed creates the conditions that make it harder to get up regardless of one's intelligence. 

 

A very intelligent person can OVERCOME any obstacle a greedy pig ties to put in their way.

That's one of the BENEFITS of being intelligent...lol.
It's harder for people to rip you off.  You can see it coming a mile away and avoid it or if they do.....retaliate so hard they won't fuck with you again.

 

 

 

 

 

I know highly intelligent people who are more broke than a bag of glass.

 

Are you SURE they're highly intelligent?
Or are they just articulate and can speak well; more maybe have a lot of academic education?

 

 

 

 

OTOH, I also know folks with little or no education who are very well off.

 

Ofcourse.
Education doesn't equal intelligence.
It's a SIGN of it....but intelligence is your ability to learn and retain knowledge.

 

 

 

 

 

The US has a literacy rate that is above average. Low  intelligence affects a relatively small number of people in the US population.

 

1. That's because the educational standard in the U.S. are BELOW AVERAGE....lol.
Especially compared with other industrialized nations.
 

2. Don't confuse education/literacy with intelligence.

 

 

 

 

i believe fear...being afraid to do whatever it takes to become rich or wealthy is the real reason people have problems and get exploited.

 

That may be some of it.
Afraid to take risks.
Risk taking is usually necessary to build wealth from the ground up, especially when you're talking about stocks or going into business.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Most people who work a job for an hourly wage will never be rich. Many of them will have just enough to survive and might struggle to make ends meet.

 

While you're right, it's not necessarily a bad things because it's much better than nothing.
 

 

 

 

 

Despite trading labor for low wages, I would not consider that a sign of low intelligence. 

 

Neither would I.
I know a lot of very intelligent and highly degreed (again...they aren't the same) people who are doing the same job I'm doing for one reason or another.
Some of them is because they've had problems in their lives and this is the only job they can find right now, others can't find a job in their career market so they end up working for an hourly wage to keep the bills paid.

 

 

 

Countries are not poor due to low intelligence among its citizens. They are being exploited by the greed and corruption from their leaders.

 

I don't think any nation has generally low intelligence people.
In every nation...it varies.
Some with very high intelligence...some with very low intelligence...and most people in the middle.
However how they DISPLAY that intelligence also varies from nation to nation.

 

 

 

 

An argument could be made that only people of low intelligence would be afraid to overthrow their oppressor. Then, that would indict the entire Black population on the planet.

Low intelligence has nothing to do with oppression. In fact, the late NF Jr. always said the people who need the most help should get it.

 

Lol...

Well...
Being oppressed isn't necessarily a sign of low intelligence.
But it generally IS a sign that whoever is oppressing you is MORE intelligent than you are...regardless of how intelligent you are.

If they weren't....you'd figure out a way to outsmart them and turn the tables; or atleast not be victimized anymore.

 

I don't care how callous, cold blooded, and ruthless he is....
Can a 14 year old kid with Down Syndrome trick YOU and exploit YOU in any way, shape or form?

 

I not...WHY not?

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

The U.S. doesn't have any enemy nations.

Iran hates the U.S. but there isn't a d8mn thing they can do about it...yet.

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

As it has been observed, the U.S. and her firms employ more Chinese than China herself.

Not to mention all the money Chinese in America send back home to help boost the Chinese economy.

Imagine a war between the US and China considering the number of Chinese people here already.

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

They should be, but if the government won't do it...as individuals, you do what you gotta do.

You FLEE.

It would make more sense to overthrow the bad government. History hss proven it can be done. 

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

A very intelligent person can OVERCOME any obstacle a greedy pig ties to put in their way.

That's one of the BENEFITS of being intelligent...lol.
It's harder for people to rip you off.  You can see it coming a mile away and avoid it or if they do.....retaliate so hard they won't fuck with you again.

What does that say about people living under a system of racism white supremacy?

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

That may be some of it.

Afraid to take risks.
Risk taking is usually necessary to build wealth from the ground up, especially when you're talking about stocks or going into business.

No risk. No reward. 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

While you're right, it's not necessarily a bad things because it's much better than nothing.

*Nothing* is subjective.

 

A woman doesn't see the janitor in the same light as the suit and tie guy or uniformed (military or law enforcement).

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Being oppressed isn't necessarily a sign of low intelligence.

But it generally IS a sign that whoever is oppressing you is MORE intelligent than you are...regardless of how intelligent you are.

If they weren't....you'd figure out a way to outsmart them and turn the tables; or atleast not be victimized anymore.

Oppressors are willing to use violence in order to maintain power and control. It doesn't take much intelligence to hurt, harm, maim or kill people. 

 

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I don't care how callous, cold blooded, and ruthless he is....
Can a 14 year old kid with Down Syndrome trick YOU and exploit YOU in any way, shape or form?

 

I not...WHY not?

C'mon bro....using a person with Down's Syndrome as a sign of low intelligence is a false equivalence. 

 

There's never been a situation in modern history of mentally disabled folks to that degree (Down's Syndrome) exploiting anyone.

 

OTOH, there's been plenty od mentally disturbed folks who've done everything from exploitation to murder.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

Iran hates the U.S. but there isn't a d8mn thing they can do about it...yet.

 

Iran hates Israel.
I'm not sure if they hate the United States or just dislikes and distrusts the United States because of her close relationship with Israel.

 

 

 

Imagine a war between the US and China considering the number of Chinese people here already.

 

There wouldn't be one.
Plus, many Chinese love White people too much to go to war with them.

 

 

 

What does that say about people living under a system of racism white supremacy?

 

Well my brutha....
What's already UNDERSTOOD doesn't really need to be said.

 

A woman doesn't see the janitor in the same light as the suit and tie guy or uniformed (military or law enforcement).

 

It depends on the woman.

A school teacher or lawyer walking past that janitor sipping on her $10 Starbucks coffee may not see much in him, but a FELLOW janitor who is a single mom with 4 kids and loves some good "D" and don't care how educated the man is who gives it too her may CHERISH him...lol.

And you know what?

In terms of looks and just making a man feel good by how she talks to him....that hood rat may actually be more valuable than that well educated school teacher or lawyer!

 

 

 

 

Oppressors are willing to use violence in order to maintain power and control. It doesn't take much intelligence to hurt, harm, maim or kill people. 

 

Well, then the question is are YOU smart/intelligent enough to COUNTER that violence with a smart defense strategy or more technologically advanced weapons of your own to not only repel them but prevent them from attempting to attack you again?

If you are constantly being attacked year after year and century after century by the same people but haven't mounted an effective defense to stop them....well...????

 

 

 

C'mon bro....using a person with Down's Syndrome as a sign of low intelligence is a false equivalence. 

There's never been a situation in modern history of mentally disabled folks to that degree (Down's Syndrome) exploiting anyone.

1.  That's because they almost CAN'T exploit someone of normal/high intelligence.

I'm sure some of them may have wanted to, especially to someone they didn't like or had something they really wanted badly...like trying to get some dessert or candy they wanted but were being deprived of....but simply weren't smart enough to do it.


2. In some cases, they most certainly exploit other people.
They exploit other's who are just as more or mentally deficient than them.
 

They may do it by taking their candy, cheating while playing a game, lying on them to get them in trouble.
They take advantage of eachother in a small time way but just like a genius who does so- the intention is the same.......taking advantage of those of lesser intelligence for personal gain.
 

[ProfD]

9 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

ProfD

 

Iran hates the U.S. but there isn't a d8mn thing they can do about it...yet.

 

Iran hates Israel.
I'm not sure if they hate the United States or just dislikes and distrusts the United States because of her close relationship with Israel.

Iran hates the US because they believe it is an evil empire.

 

9 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

There wouldn't be one.

Plus, many Chinese love White people too much to go to war with them.

Of course not. China makes a sh8t ton of money as a result of the US.

9 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

What does that say about people living under a system of racism white supremacy?

 

Well my brutha....
What's already UNDERSTOOD doesn't really need to be said.

What percentage of Black folks living under the system of racism white supremacy would you consider of low intelligence?

 

9 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

A woman doesn't see the janitor in the same light as the suit and tie guy or uniformed (military or law enforcement).

 

It depends on the woman.

A school teacher or lawyer walking past that janitor sipping on her $10 Starbucks coffee may not see much in him, but a FELLOW janitor who is a single mom with 4 kids and loves some good "D" and don't care how educated the man is who gives it too her may CHERISH him...lol.

Right. It would make sense for a woman of similar station to be attracted.

 

9 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Oppressors are willing to use violence in order to maintain power and control. It doesn't take much intelligence to hurt, harm, maim or kill people. 

 

Well, then the question is are YOU smart/intelligent enough to COUNTER that violence with a smart defense strategy or more technologically advanced weapons of your own to not only repel them but prevent them from attempting to attack you again?

If you are constantly being attacked year after year and century after century by the same people but haven't mounted an effective defense to stop them....well...????

Again, are you insinuating that Black folks collectively are of lower intelligence than their oppressors?

9 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

1.  That's because they almost CAN'T exploit someone of normal/high intelligence.

I'm sure there are some people who are mentally retarded and love food who WOULD manipulate and exploit someone into making them a nice cake or something whenever they wanted...if they could do it.

2. In some cases, they most certainly exploit other people.
They exploit other's who are just as more more mentally slow than them.


Sometimes they exploit eachother in their own way.
 

The easiest thing to do is ask for whatever is wanted or desired. No exploitation required. Babies know it instinctively.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

 

What percentage of Black folks living under the system of racism white supremacy would you consider of low intelligence?

 

I'm not sure.
But it's not so much a matter of LOW intelligence, so much as it's a matter of not being intelligent ENOUGH to get out from under the Oppressor.

If we...collectively....were in the past smart enough to do it, we would have done it already.
It's not complicated....if you accept it.

 

What causes problems and confusion is lack of acceptance of the fact.

Instead of saying that you simply aren't smart enough to get from under the whip of your oppressor, you start making excuses:

 

-It's the curse of Ham

-It's lack of unity, Black folks need to "get together"...lol (R.I.P. Neely Fuller Jr.)

-It's eating too much pork. If Black folkes just stopped eating pork we'd rule the world overnight.

-It's our NAME.  That's what it is!
If we stopped calling ourselves Black or Negro but instead  identify as Freedm    NIGGA SHUT UP

...talking a bunch of bullshit.

No need for some of our people to sit up and lie and make up a bunch of excuses and shit to explain why they keep getting faded and punked out.

You can SEE what the problem is.
White folks are SMART.
They're smart enough to rule the world and they know the people they're ruling over generally aren't smart enough to stop them.

Again, are you insinuating that Black folks collectively are of lower intelligence than their oppressors?

See my above statement and draw your own conclusion, lol.


 

The easiest thing to do is ask for whatever is wanted or desired. No exploitation required. Babies know it instinctively. 
 

It's also easy for a person to say NO and don't give it to you, lol.

If you don't believe me, next time ask somebody on the street...especially somebody you don't know...for money.

Then (Neely Fuller Jr...) don't interrupt them, just wait for their response...lol.

That's why people have learned the art of manipulation.

[ProfD]

28 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

But it's not so much a matter of LOW intelligence, so much as it's a matter of not being intelligent ENOUGH to get out from under the Oppressor.

What causes problems and confusion is lack of acceptance of the fact.

I still believe it's not a lack of intelligence that keeps Black folks from overthrowing the system of racism white supremacy but fear. 

 

 

28 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

You can SEE what the problem is.
White folks are SMART.
They're smart enough to rule the world and they know the people they're ruling over generally aren't smart enough to stop them.

Interesting that you believe white folks have power because they're smarter.

 

28 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

It's also easy for a person to say NO and don't give it to you, lol.

The best thing to do is respect that *no* and find a constructive way of getting it.

28 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

If you don't believe me, next time ask somebody on the street...especially somebody you don't know...for money.

That's a foreign concept in my world.

28 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Then (Neely Fuller Jr...) don't interrupt them, just wait for their response...lol.

Of course, those are words to live by from the master teacher.

28 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

That's why people have learned the art of manipulation.

Manipulation is a short-term solution. Being a liar, cheat, thief, crook, etc., never ends well. There's no retirement plan in it either.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

 

I still believe it's not a lack of intelligence that keeps Black folks from overthrowing the system of racism white supremacy but fear. 

 

Well.....
You can BELIEVE it...if you like.
Nothing wrong with believing something that makes you feel better as long as it doesn't interfere with your success in life.

That's why I don't knock a person for believing in religion.
It if makes them feel better or gives them hope and doesn't do damage or cause harm to themselves or others...they are entitled to that.

Now whether or not it's TRUE.
That's another story.

 

 

 

 

Interesting that you believe white folks have power because they're smarter.

 

I find it interesting that you DON'T think they're smart; or atleast smartER than our people collectively...given their current domination and continued domination over so many of our people for the past several hundred years.

 

I wouldn't argue with some snaggle toof'd nigga with a doo-rag on sitting on a crate begging for change outside the gas station, over whether or not White folks are smarter.
OFCOURSE he's going to say no.
He probably believes it himself, but operates on EMOTION and hearing that doesn't make him "feel good" because it bring attention to how stupid HE is.
But an intelligent logical thinking Black man like you doesn't focus so much on emotion and what "sounds good" but ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE.

 

Generally speaking....either something IS....or it IS NOT.

Group to Group, either White folks are SMARTER or they ARE NOT.
If they are not...ok...let's get on up out from under them and BUILD something.
No need to talk about it decade after decade and hold seminars and rallies about it...let's get on up and DO it.

 

 

Manipulation is a short-term solution. Being a liar, cheat, thief, crook, etc., never ends well. 

 

Tell that to Elon Musk.
But DON'T wait on a response....lol.


 

There's no retirement plan in it either
 

Better come up with something.
They're already eyeing Social Security, looking for an excuse to send it where they sent  the Department of Education.

Last year.......there was no talk about Social Security at all; plenty of money.
This year...all of a sudden it's going broke.
A week later...they aren't touching it...it's just a rumor.
A week later....too many 100 year olds are claiming benefits, it needs to be "overhauled".
A month later....it was just a mistake, nothings wrong with Social Security Administration.
A month after THAT....they're giving "up dates" on the status of Social Security....WTF???     

  -updates????  For what???
 

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I find it interesting that you DON'T think they're smart; or atleast smartER than our people collectively...given their current domination and continued domination over so many of our people for the past several hundred years.

But an intelligent logical thinking Black man like you doesn't focus so much on emotion and what "sounds good" but ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE.

 

Generally speaking....either something IS....or it IS NOT.

Group to Group, either White folks are SMARTER or they ARE NOT.

The disconnect in our beliefs is that you are  looking at white power and domination through a binary prism. 

 

The system of racism white supremacy is built like a pyramid. Dismantling it requires a multilayered approach.

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

If they are not...ok...let's get on up out from under them and BUILD something.
No need to talk about it decade after decade and hold seminars and rallies about it...let's get on up and DO it.

Facts. We should definitely spend more time in construction rather than discussion. 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Tell that to Elon Musk.

But DON'T wait on a response....lol.

Musk built his fortune legitimately through technology. He bought the last election to further enrich himself. No lies or deceit or thievery. He paid for it.

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

There's no retirement plan in it either
 

Better come up with something.
They're already eyeing Social Security, looking for an excuse to send it where they sent  the Department of Education.

Last year.......there was no talk about Social Security at all; plenty of money.
This year...all of a sudden it's going broke.
A week later...they aren't touching it...it's just a rumor.
A week later....too many 100 year olds are claiming benefits, it needs to be "overhauled".
A month later....it was just a mistake, nothings wrong with Social Security Administration.
A month after THAT....they're giving "up dates" on the status of Social Security....WTF???     

  -updates????  For what???
 

Nobody should be surprised by moves the  current administration is making. On the campaign trail, they told folks exactly what they were planning to do.

 

Now, were in the FAFO zone...F8ck Around and Find Out. 

 

The only thing American citizens can do at this point is sit back and watch the sh8tshow.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

 

The system of racism white supremacy is built like a pyramid. Dismantling it requires a multilayered approach

 

Ok.
So when will that approach be implemented?

Is the approach to dismantle the System of Racism in progress right now by it's Victims?
 

[ProfD]

40 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

ProfD

 

 

The system of racism white supremacy is built like a pyramid. Dismantling it requires a multilayered approach

 

Ok.
So when will that approach be implemented?

Is the approach to dismantle the System of Racism in progress right now by it's Victims?
 

The short answer is *no*.

 

Only a very small minority of black folks are interested in dismantling the system of racism white supremacy. 

 

The *why* is because most Black folks have been conditioned to accept the system of racism white supremacy. 

 

From the talented tenth, best and brightest to those who need the most help and in between, Black folks have found ways to survive and thrive within the prison of racism white supremacy.

 

The majority of Black folks do not feel imprisoned. They see injustices, inequities and inequalities but apparently it's not significant enough to work towards dismantling it.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD
 

 

The *why* is because most Black folks have been conditioned to accept the system of racism white supremacy. 

Can Group A "condition" Group B to accept something detrimental to their well being, even if Group B is just as smart or smarter than Group A?
 

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

ProfD
 

 

The *why* is because most Black folks have been conditioned to accept the system of racism white supremacy. 

Can Group A "condition" Group B to accept something detrimental to their well being, even if Group B is just as smart or smarter than Group A?
 

Group A used 400 years of conditioning to subjugate Group B in the form of mental and physical abuse i.e. slavery, Jim Crow laws, lynchings, bombings, redlining, etc.

 

These practices didn't make Group A more intelligence or smarter than Group B.

 

As I've mentioned before, violence or the threat of it is enough to keep most folks in check.

 

Very few people are willing to die for their freedom from oppression. I wouldn't consider their fear of dying as a sign of low intelligence. 

 

I don't believe Black folks were willing to be slaughtered for their liberation. 

 

The *smarter* move seems to have been adapting to the prison of racism white supremacy.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

Group A used 400 years of conditioning to subjugate Group B in the form of mental and physical abuse i.e. slavery, Jim Crow laws, lynchings, bombings, redlining, etc.
 

Ok, let's go BACK to 400 or 500 years ago.

500 years ago you have Group A and Group B.

Why was Group A even in  POSITION to condition and subjugate Group B in the first place?

Presumably neither group came into contact with eachother.
Both living their separate lives.
Now Group A finds Group B and starts oppressing them.

Well WAIT A MINUTE.....

What kind of state/condition was Group B in that they allowed another group who presumably was not as smart or atleast not smartER -to slide on in and take advantage of them?

Very few people are willing to die for their freedom from oppression. I wouldn't consider their fear of dying as a sign of low intelligence. 
 

You don't have to die, if you're smart enough to come up with the technology that will DEFEAT your opponent/enemy.

Death isn't necessary....VICTORY is.

You have a whole continent with every resource on the planet available there.
Who's stopping them from mining it and developing some "vibranium" to take over the world with?

[ProfD]

59 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Why was Group A even in  POSITION to condition and subjugate Group B in the first place?

Willingness to kill in order to conquer.

59 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

What kind of state/condition was Group B in that they allowed another group who presumably was not as smart or atleast not smartER -to slide on in and take advantage of them?

Group B was doing their own thing before the killers showed up.

 

59 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

You don't have to die, if you're smart enough to come up with the technology that will DEFEAT your opponent/enemy.

Death isn't necessary....VICTORY is.

Regardless of technology, one has to be willing to use it...go to war and fight which means to kill or be killed. 

 

59 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

You have a whole continent with every resource on the planet available there.
Who's stopping them from mining it and developing some "vibranium" to take over the world with?

They are not barbaric people h8ll bent on taking over the world.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

 

Willingness to kill in order to conquer.

 

But so were those in Group B.
They were willing to kill OTHER groups to conquer them!

 

Look at all of the fighting going on in Africa NOW as well as in the past.

 

 

 

Group B was doing their own thing before the killers showed up.

 

Yeah..lol...killing eachother.

 

 

 

 

They are not barbaric people h8ll bent on taking over the world

 

Come on man, you know about Rwanda.
The way they hacked nearly a million people to death with machetes in a week!

I don't know what you call that.

[ProfD]

10 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Willingness to kill in order to conquer.

 

But so were those in Group B.
They were willing to kill OTHER groups to conquer them!

 

Look at all of the fighting going on in Africa NOW as well as in the past.

I already acknowledged that humans have always been fighting and killing each other for one reason or another.

10 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

They are not barbaric people h8ll bent on taking over the world

 

Come on man, you know about Rwanda.
The way they hacked nearly a million people to death with machetes in a week!

I don't know what you call that.

The Rwandan Tutsi and Hutu had been beefing forever as tribes do. German agitators plunged them into a bloody war. Instigate. Colonize. White supremacy playbook.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

So now........
Doesn't that cancel any argument that claims White folks were able to conquer and dominate so much of Africa because Africans were "soooo peaceful" and just didn't believe in violence?
We know this is NOT the case.

So if you acknowledge that Africans could be violent and murderous and warlike also, then there must be ANOTHER reason Whites....I mean Group A....lol....were able to rule over them.
 

[ProfD]

 

17 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

So if you acknowledge that Africans could be violent and murderous and warlike also, then there must be ANOTHER reason Whites....I mean Group A....lol....were able to rule over them.

Group A didn't show up with guns blazing. They showed up presenting good faith.  Tricked the Africans into selling out. Enslaved them. Colonization and imperialism. Just like India, Australia, West Indies and the Americas.

[Pioneer1]

3 minutes ago, ProfD said:

 

Group A didn't show up with guns blazing. They showed up presenting good faith.  Tricked the Africans into selling out. Enslaved them. Colonization and imperialism. Just like India, Australia, West Indies and the Americas.

"tricked"????

Aaaahhh!

Here we go!

Now you got people TRICKING you.
What does that say about your INTELLIGENCE when people you don't know or barely know can sail up to your shores offering you trinkets and shit and TRICK you into selling out and being enslaved????

[ProfD]

5 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

"tricked"????

Aaaahhh!

Here we go!

Now you got people TRICKING you.
What does that say about your INTELLIGENCE when people you don't know or barely know can sail up to your shores offering you trinkets and shit and TRICK you into selling out and being enslaved????

I knew that bait would reel you into invoking intelligence.

 

Tricking isn't always deceptive. Think about it as related to turning tricks.

 

A mark doesn't automatically translate to low intelligence. Especially if they get strong-armed or worse.

 

 

[Pioneer1]

7 minutes ago, ProfD said:

I knew that bait would reel you into invoking intelligence.

 

Tricking isn't always deceptive. Think about it as related to turning tricks.

 

A mark doesn't automatically translate to low intelligence. Especially if they get strong-armed or worse.

 

 

Well it worked....lol.

The old saying "Fool me once...shame on you...fool me twice...shame on me" comes to mind.

It's one thing for Africans to be tricked ONCE by the newly arriving Europeans, but if they kept getting tricked OVER and OVER and OVER again.
Different tribes getting tricked and deceived and enslaved and falling victim...over and over again.
Now we have a PATTERN of being taken advantage of, when then says something about those who are constantly victimized.

[ProfD]

3 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Different tribes getting tricked and deceived and enslaved and falling victim...over and over again.

Group A didn't capture and enslave millions of people.

 

Africans were selling their own people into slavery. They didn't consider it low intelligence. It was a business decision.

 

All expenses paid cruise to work in another country.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

 

Group A didn't capture and enslave millions of people.

 

You might be getting your groups mixed up.
Group A were the White folks, remember...lol. 

 

 

Africans were selling their own people into slavery. They didn't consider it low intelligence. It was a business decision.

 

You're right, they didn't consider it low intelligence.
And??

Stupid is stupid whether it's acknowledged or not.

 

When you have outsiders coming into your nation, raping your women, burning your homes...and you will turn around and enslave your own brother and give him to those same outsiders simply because he speaks a different language than you or of a different religion -that's stupid.
And the fact that he'd do the same to you doesn't justify it but makes BOTH sides dumb and easier to be taken advantage of.

 
 

[ProfD]

37 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Group A didn't capture and enslave millions of people.

 

You might be getting your groups mixed up.
Group A were the White folks, remember...lol. 

I know. Im saying Group A didn't have to hunt and capture Group B. Many of them were sold by their own people.

37 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

When you have outsiders coming into your nation, raping your women, burning your homes...and you will turn around and enslave your own brother and give him to those same outsiders simply because he speaks a different language than you or of a different religion -that's stupid.

Africans would beg to differ when you explain it to them.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

I know. Im saying Group A didn't have to hunt and capture Group B. Many of them were sold by their own people.

 

True.

Now let me ask you a question.....

How many Europeans sold OTHER Europeans to Africans for slavery, sexual exploitation, or any other reasons?

We know a lot of Europeans didn't like eachother and went to war with eachother, even enslaved eachother.....

 

So how many SOLD eachother to Africans?

 

 

 

Africans would beg to differ when you explain it to them.

Which is why in most cases I wouldn't even BOTHER trying to explain it to them....lol.
 

Most of the Africans I know don't even know who the Moors were.

But at the end of the day, they didn't come to America to get a history lesson....they came here to make MONEY and support themselves, which I'm understanding more and more.

[umbrarchist]

China has some serious corruption problems with construction.

 

 

[Chevdove]

On 3/23/2025 at 8:05 AM, Pioneer1 said:

 

I suspect that the West is trying to re-colonize Africa THROUGH China.

 

 

Never thought about this possibility. 

Well, now that you brought this up, I kind of think that could be so true because of what did already happen in the past. 

We are not taught about what really happened during the lifetime of Ghengis Khan! 

On 3/23/2025 at 5:15 AM, umbrarchist said:

They have Tofu Dreg buildings in China, now Tofu Dreg dams in Africa.

 

How depressing.

 

[Pioneer1]

Globally speaking, the White population is shrinking.
If they want to continue to rule the world they're going to have to increasingly learn to do it by PROXY.

There are probably almost 2 BILLION Chinese on the planet today and no telling how many OTHER Asians.
Many if which who are in love with White people and their culture and would gladly do their bidding for them if given the opportunity.
White folks wouldn't have to do the "dirty" work of enforcing their racist policies.
All they'd have to do is just sit in an airconditioned room somewhere and get their Asian flunkies to "handle that" for them.

A lot of White people have discovered that actually NON-white people often make better racists then even White folks themselves!
They tend to be less apologetic and more open with their racism since they don't have to worry about the accusations of Slavery and Colonialism.
If all of the White people on the planet disappeared overnight....the LEGACY of White racism would continue for generations because it's so ingrained in the cultures and mentality of so many people who hold it up as ideal.

You got a "preview" of what's to come starting in the 80s and 90s when after the riots the White business owners got driven out of the 'hood and the Black businesses took over; they had to figure out a way to replace them, so what did they do?

They couldn't bring back the White business owners again because that was too obvious so they brought the  non-Whites in and gave THEM the businesses to help strip away the Black businesses.
The Koreans, the Indians, the Arabs, the Latinos, etc.......

See that?

That was a PREVIEW of what they want to do globally by using non-Whites as their proxies.

[ProfD]

On 4/4/2025 at 4:39 AM, Pioneer1 said:

Globally speaking, the White population is shrinking.
If they want to continue to rule the world they're going to have to increasingly learn to do it by PROXY.

White folks have been out-numbered by non-whites for a long time. That's why they have nuclear weapons. If/when they can no longer run the world by every means necessary, they'll blow it up.