If you want to know more about mamdani

[richardmurray]

take a look and follow the calendar

 

[ProfD]

This young man, Zohran Mamdani, is the breath of fresh air the Democratic party needs. 

 

Mamdani's positions on social and justice reform, city services, Israel and Jews, etc., may be considered radical.  He makes it no secret that he's a diehard Democratic socialist. 

 

I believe his connections to a wide cross-section of people (FBA/ADOs, Muslim, Arab, African, Hispanic, Asian, etc.) and affiliation with the Hip-Hop community among others will propel him to becoming the most popular candidate on the ballot.

 

Regardless of whether or not Zohran Mamdani is elected mayor of NYC, he actually has a plan for how he wants to run the city.  Mamdani's plan could be a blueprint for the Democratic party to overtake the GOP. 

[Pioneer1]

Yes, I'd like to know something about Mamdani...........

When will he DROP OUT of the race?

Adams is the man for the job, lol.
I say keep Adams in that seat.

 

[ProfD]

22 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Adams is the man for the job, lol.
I say keep Adams in that seat.

Mayor Adams is running as an Independent. Let's see if he can hold the seat.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

I think Trump is going to pull some strings to keep him in there.
Just like he pulled a few strings to push Cuomo out of the way.

Besides..........
Although I'm not a New Yorker, I trust Adams being in that seat more than I trust this Mamdani dude I know next to nothing about.

From what I've read he was born of Indian parents in Uganda.
Sounds like typical foreign colonizers who come in to take advantage of the African people.

[ProfD]

16 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

I think Trump is going to pull some strings to keep him in there.

There's no way POTUS OJ can keep New Yorkers from voting. Either that or rigging the election is the only way POTUS OJ could *keep* Mayor Adams in the seat.

 

16 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Just like he pulled a few strings to push Cuomo out of the way.

I don't believe POTUS OJ pulled any strings to get Cuomo out. Mamdani had a better message. 

16 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

From what I've read he was born of Indian parents in Uganda.
Sounds like typical foreign colonizers who come in to take advantage of the African people.

Mamdani's father is an educator.

 

The question is why do Africans depend on foreigners for anything.

[richardmurray]

@ProfD

did you read my calendrial post? where i fully cite his legislative history? 

17 hours ago, ProfD said:

I don't believe POTUS OJ pulled any strings to get Cuomo out. Mamdani had a better message. 

Mamdani didn't win because of his message, if you look at turnout , it is still low and if you look at voting blocks he has serious cutoffs. Mamdani defeated cuomo because cuomo has baggage. It is that simple. In the same way Mamdani has advantages against Eric Adams cause he has baggage. It is the Obama+AOC mold. 

Person talks alot of stuff. Gets elected, and then the rules and regulations of the bureaucracy force them to act against their stated high goals getting electing. Everything Obama said he wanted to do didn't happen. AOC's green new deal died. Mamdani if he wins will have to do like all mayors and go to albany and beg the governor for taxing powers. the governor will say no because if the governor does for nyc then the governor will have to do for all the cities in new york state and once done for all once , it will be demanded every year. so mamdani will not get the ability to tax the rich of nyc. And he knows this which is why he has already adjusted to healthcare /freeze rent/universal childcare. Hochul will be willing to help the healthcare/universal childcare which is part of her platform and most other cities in nyc like. The rent freeze is actually under the mayor's complete control and but deblaiso rent freezed as well but had many problems with the real estate industry or nypd, which mamdani will also have.  . As my calendrial post showed, if you want to have tax law you need to be where mamdani is leaving and be in the ny assembly, where he helped lead tax law. Mamdani can not also protect immigrants, immigration is a federal level act, the mayor can do little to protect immigrants and nor can ny state and defying the federal government is unwise. 

@Pioneer1

18 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Although I'm not a New Yorker, I trust Adams being in that seat more than I trust this Mamdani dude I know next to nothing about.

try reading my calendrial post, it is fully cited to all his laws

Mamdani's problem for me is during his tenure he did very little tax law, and focused on laws that demanded nys or nyc become more in debt by financing things. Then he runs as a candidate in the primary on a promise to protect immigrants from the federal government if elected which the mayor can not do, tax the rich and give money out to the poor which is powers of new york state which the mayor can not do. 

At the end of the day, his campaign is all about identity. he is muslim/ he is born outside the usa/he is "young"  and a set of voters see those things and think they come with good strategies or plans and they usually don't. 

 

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, richardmurray said:

@ProfD

did you read my calendrial post? where i fully cite his legislative history? 

I have read your post.  

 

1 hour ago, richardmurray said:

Mamdani defeated cuomo because cuomo has baggage. It is that simple. 

 

In the same way Mamdani has advantages against Eric Adams cause he has baggage.

Fair enough.

1 hour ago, richardmurray said:

Person talks alot of stuff. Gets elected, and then the rules and regulations of the bureaucracy force them to act against their stated high goals getting electing.

 

Mamdani if he wins will have to do like all mayors and go to albany and beg the governor for taxing powers. the governor will say no because if the governor does for nyc then the governor will have to do for all the cities in new york state and once done for all once , it will be demanded every year. 

Gotcha.  As mayor, Mamdani would be putting pressure on the Democratic governor.  The party would not be in favor of it.

 

1 hour ago, richardmurray said:

 

As my calendrial post showed, if you want to have tax law you need to be where mamdani is leaving and be in the ny assembly, where he helped lead tax law. Mamdani can not also protect immigrants, immigration is a federal level act, the mayor can do little to protect immigrants and nor can ny state and defying the federal government is unwise. 

The rationale above makes sense of your poll question. 

 

I can see how and why you would think Mamdani could be more effective in the NY state assembly.

 

Well, if Mamdani loses his mayoral bid, he can remain in the state assembly and continue to work from that level.

 

The Democratic party definitely needs more people with personality, energy and an agenda resuscitate it.

[richardmurray]

@ProfD

21 minutes ago, ProfD said:

As mayor, Mamdani would be putting pressure on the Democratic governor.  The party would not be in favor of it.

well not much pressure, remember if you are mayor of albany/birlington/yonkers/buffalo you don't want to tax the rich , if anything you want to lessen the taxes to invite the rich in with their enterprises, so hochul will have many mayors against mamdani's call so it will be easy for her to say no as new york state rarely makes city specific laws. 

24 minutes ago, ProfD said:

The Democratic party definitely needs more people with personality, energy and an agenda resuscitate it.

well i liked adrienne adams but the problem outside of her being a woman is that she isn't selling anything. adirenne adams says, she will do little things and hat doesn't get the commonly called far left exitec, they want to hear things that legally don't work. but adrienne adams isn't also trying to court the old bureaucracy, so she isn't going to say , she is in love with nypd. candidates like her exist but neither side of the party of andrew jacksn like her.... 

 

[richardmurray]

@ProfD

The problem NYC has is it has outgrown the status of a city. NYC isn't equivalent to Buffalo but they each have the same status. Now NYC could try to become a state [it is legal] BUT the remainder of NY state will never vote to allow NYC to be free from it. At least I don't see that happeneing easily.  The federal dollars NY state gets because of NY city are too precious to give up and the remainder of New York State likes the influence it has on NYC which i may add is usually against NYC's betterment to be blunt. Black people talk about the projects but the original plan from the federal government was to put the projects in upstate new york and never in nyc. But the 99% white towns and villages upstate new york complained to high heaven. They did not want the non white/non christian/fiscally poor populace of NYC living next to them. It is that simple and so , no upstate new york, but the money was coming to new york and so... put them all in NYC. and the rest of the states rural/small town white populaces followed. People today talk about green but part of why the projects were meant to be outside nyc was for health, but again the white people of upstate new york in their 99% towns and villages said no. And this is similarly true for Los Angeles or Chicago or other. And to make it worse when the urban congestion led to infrastructure breakdowns in cities, the same towns that wouldn't accept projects next to them were overjoyed to accept jails for people in the city to go to, which help the tax base of upstate new york city. The black church was happy to support jails away from the black urban populaces but as often the black church didn't realize it was hruting the black populace in big cities. I don't know how much money the black populace of NYC and other non white populaces have spent on the white towns to see their loved ones in the jails upstate. ....  NYC can try to have a special status made for itself in NY State law but again, the remainder of NY state would be against that. So NYC has an elemental problem. It has outgrown the status of city cause it really isn't. NYC is a state that has the status of a city. I argue easily, if NYC was a state all the mayors from Lindsey to Adams would had done differently, but absent the freedom of a state , and bound to the laws of a city...their are limits. The mayor of NYC is very limited even though it seems such a powerful post. The governor of NYState really is more powerful than the mayor of any city in  New york State. The problem with people like AOC or Mamdani is for all of their supposed radicalness, their plans really aren't good. AOC's green new deal was again, great philosophical reading for the people cheering mamdani on now, but functionally, no way. One thing people forget is it isn't uncommon for people to be elected in the usa and then have a negative wake up call to the mechanics. Remember the tea party, that sect in the party of abraham lincoln POAL. People remember them but don't remember their most important lesson which many so called socialist or far left liberals learn once elected. That the plans you have you didn't fully think through. Great to get elected. people cheer. Talk about the change is coming and then you get in and realize the mechanics of government require more than your one sentence desires. This isn't easy, and that is why so many legislatures seem deadlocked. The tea party realized many other POAL members wouldn't vote to reduce the government size. Sometimes things are needed. The usa has a populace over three hundred millions. that is a lot of mouths. welfare programs can't be just cut away and while media makes black people the great benefactors the truth is white people are. Yeah, lower the military size but again the usa is in the global policing business which matters when you want to control the price of oil. yeah tax the rich but as newsom tried in california already, when you do that the rich left to texas. You can't stop them from leaving the state. and when they leave what do you tell the workers in the state who relied on this firm? And when the rich are gone are you going to tax the poor? And when the rich are gone, and the city is going deeper into a debt hole what then? Who do you blame? what do you do? where do you go? Bootstraps, to what job? and then when people commit illegal acts, law enforcement? it is a spiral downward.  I really think when it comes to government too many people focus on what they want and not how to get what they want. 

 

IN AMENDMENT,

I don't know if you follow NYC but the battle over the casinos is huge. The reality is, everyone in government wants those casinos but the non black communities that the potential casino owners want to locate to dont' want them. The years of dumping everything in black regions of the city has left the black regions with no space. The only spaces left is with non black regions who know a casino near where they live will change everything for them financially for the worse. rents will skyrocket, and the regions energy will change. casinos are rife with alot of negativity for all the money they make. 

[ProfD]

33 minutes ago, richardmurray said:

The problem NYC has is it has outgrown the status of a city. NYC isn't equivalent to Buffalo but they each have the same status. Now NYC could try to become a state [it is legal] BUT the remainder of NY state will never vote to allow NYC to be free from it.

Right.

 

34 minutes ago, richardmurray said:

The problem with people like AOC or Mamdani is for all of their supposed radicalness, their plans really aren't good.

At a certain level, politicians do and say whatever it takes to get elected.  Once in office, they have to tow the party line.

 

34 minutes ago, richardmurray said:

That the plans you have you didn't fully think through. Great to get elected. people cheer. Talk about the change is coming and then you get in and realize the mechanics of government require more than your one sentence desires.

Many politicians get into the *game* in order to enrich themselves and serve their paymasters.  The constituents get the crumbs.

[ProfD]

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/29/mamdani-trump-latest-jab-00432137

 

NYC mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani has already landed in the crosshairs of POTUS OJ. 

 

The clown-in-chief doesn't seem to be miss in a beat in staying busy hurling insults and threats. 

 

POTUS OJ is threatening to withhold federal funds from NYC if elected mayor, Mamdani doesn't *do the right thing*. 

[Troy]

I had no idea what Mamdani looked like until I read the Politico article.  (why does Politico have to run those shitty ads?  Don't they have salespeople? Those ads tarnish their image and devalue the brand)

 

He looks like a serious contender.  So far, I like what I have read about him.

[Pioneer1]

Adams is going to keep his spot.

And I'm glad he will.

[Troy]

I'm sure Adams will not be reelected and I'm not even paying attention.

[Pioneer1]

3 minutes ago, Troy said:

I'm sure Adams will not be reelected and I'm not even paying attention.

Let's find out.......lol.

[richardmurray]

@ProfD 

Here is the problem with the usa today, in terms of government, the people voting against you offer more help by their existence than your legislative quality. 

As my original post stated [ https://aalbc.com/tc/events/event/363-zohran-mamdani-legislation/ ]  

Mamdani' legislative record speaks more to his reality than his speeches. But for most in the usa, speeches have more value and personal identity have more value.

Biden became president because of Schrumpt, so many voted against or not for schrumpt. Ocasico Cortez won because the white guy in that bronx district was totally disconnected from latino voters who usually don't vote. and have dropped in voting after AOC's entry. MAmdani won because Cuomo has many who dislike him and so do Adams, which gives Mamdan an advantage. 

And this goes both ways. Hillary Clinton was perfect for Schrumpft. And Mamdani is a godsend for every republican who is on an anti immigrant/ anti north east / pro isolationism stance. MAmdani is the embodiment of that which ttheir voting blocks fears. Nothing Mamdani can prove otherwise cause he will only be at best mayor of NYC , a position of limited power. again, if he was truly serious about doing good he would stay in the assembly but he sees a chance to be the first muslim/asian/socialist mayor of NYC and that can be very fruitful for him personally. Remember, england had their first asian prime minister and like MAmdani he talked a talk and then in the bureaucracy faltered. 

 

@Pioneer1 adams isn't guaranteed to keep the spot. yes the real estate industry, yes law enforcement, yes the private fiscal institutions will be able to support adams as an independent, which is underrated by some. By being an independent adams allows a combination of elephants + donkeys. But Mamdani has a strong crowd in the donkeys. The problem mamdani has is, he will need to explain how he is going to do a number of his promises and he hasn't. 

It is a race. I don't know why people don't think it isn't a race. The debates will be huge. The one thing in mandani's camp is what I call a little obama effect. Asians may vote in droves for mamdani and that may pull him through if he can split all the other votes. 

 

[ProfD]

10 minutes ago, richardmurray said:

MAmdani won because Cuomo has many who dislike him and so do Adams, which gives Mamdan an advantage.  

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It is a race. I don't know why people don't think it isn't a race. The debates will be huge. The one thing in mandani's camp is what I call a little obama effect. Asians may vote in droves for mamdani and that may pull him through if he can split all the other votes. 

The NYC mayoral election will definitely be a race. The outcome will be interesting regardless of who wins.

[Pioneer1]

richardmurray

adams isn't guaranteed to keep the spot.
 

True.
Nobody is.
However with Trump helping him out and backing him....indirectly atleast...it's more of a guarantee.
 

Trump has a way of helping his allies and getting things done for them that the Democrats don't do for their own if they are Black.



 

 yes the real estate industry, yes law enforcement, yes the private fiscal institutions will be able to support adams as an independent, which is underrated by some. By being an independent adams allows a combination of elephants + donkeys. 
 

That says it right there.

 

 

 

 

But Mamdani has a strong crowd in the donkeys. The problem  mamdani has is, he will need to explain how he is going to do a number of his promises and he hasn't. 

 

Because he can't.
Not under a Trump Administration.

He's an open Socialist, which doesn't sit well with MOST people in this nation, especially right-wing Conservatives and wealthy people of all backgrounds.

 

How are you going to be the of a city that contains Wall Street and the Diamond District and Park Avenue...but openly say that you don't think billionaires should be allowed?

 

[ProfD]

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

He's an open Socialist, which doesn't sit well with MOST people in this nation, especially right-wing Conservatives and wealthy people of all backgrounds.

Maybe Mamdani believes he can tap into whatever got former NYC mayor Bill de Blasio elected.

[richardmurray]

@Pioneer1

12 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

How are you going to be the of a city that contains Wall Street and the Diamond District and Park Avenue...but openly say that you don't think billionaires should be allowed?

Because it is possible. You seem to think Mamdani doesn't fit New York city or NY State or the USA but the USA has a long history of socialism in parts. And more importantly, MAmdani has an engaged voting group. No not the whole city. I didn't say Mamdani will win, but MAmdani can win. We will see how the numbers play out. 

12 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Because he can't.

well I argue,  he can explain a plan that can provide more money into new york city, it can't be taxing the rich cause he doesn't control that, the governor or state legislature of new york state does  and the legislature will never agree to his tax desires nor will the governor be able to because so many cities in new york state will be against, but the mayor does have powers and i think if he focuses on what mayors can do and proposes a radical agenda, he can convince and win it. But he has to be daring in that way and based on his legislation in the new york state assembly he isn't as daring or radical as some suggest.

 

@ProfD

 

7 hours ago, ProfD said:

Maybe Mamdani believes he can tap into whatever got former NYC mayor Bill de Blasio elected.

That was three terms of bloomberg.Bloomberg let the NYPD be unpunished for their inefficiency, and he was a huge advocate for the real estate industry of the city. Those two things gave bloomberg huge voting supports. NY city has a high end real estate market but people forget how many mid to low end realtors are in the city full of black folk/women/asians/muslims and bloomberg aided all of them in their agenda against rentors. The NYPD loved that he simply didn't demand better of the NYPD whenever they operated poorly. And they voted for bloomberg as a block. The fact that bloomberg also employed many in the private media industry in the city helped. 

BUT, the rentors of the city hated bloomberg, the people the NYPD abused and got away with abusing hated bloomberg. The public media sector , independent, also had issue with bloomberg. So with his third term up, a huge energy for someone who would freeze the rents/tell the NYPD to clean up their act/support the public sector bureaucracies of the city existed and de blasio, former agent for mayor dinkins was the most aligned candidate to that set. But, de blasio automatically became enemy to the nypd who hate any mayor calls the nypd wrong. the real estate industry , high + low end, hated the rent freeze. and the private sector didn't like the lack of energy for private sector activity so...adams came in. Pro NYPD to the core. supports the real estate industry, and in that, supports what I call the black financial aristocrats of the city who are more in the number than ever before. He did his city of yes thing which is a huge rezoning plan that is massive. that gave the real estate industry the ability to slot buildings in every space in the city, will allow for more mixed used buildings to save the skyscrapers from being money pits. But, really isn't addressing the lack of jobs or industry in the city. Which is where mamdani has strength. Mamdani 's base are the just turned adults who are in a city devoid of jobs, devoid of opportunity, and with ever increasing cost of living. The reality is, even if Mamdani losses, his movement will win in four years with the way the city is being managed. It isn't the fault of anyone past 1980 but many of the big cities in the usa are mismanaged but they have been mismanaged since the 1950s. 

NYC used to have every single industry, used to be a hub for all things, then came the mid 1900s and the white suburban movement and the business flight. Those two things were mismanaged by nyc and the other big cities in the usa. So much so that by the 1970s the usa economy couldn't survive being based on gold and had to use its own debt as a currency based on its militaristic power to finance itself, and it worked but it is not 2025.  I restate, MAmdani's campaign isn't about the issues that propelled de blasio. Mamdani's campaign is about a legacy of poor fiscal capitalistic management that has come to bite not only nyc but the greater usa, it is just that nyc is ahead of the curve. the usa wouldn't allow black workers into unions or wouldn't allow unions and allowed firms to flee the country than deal with unions, then allowed regions of the country, suburbs, to live like leeches on cities , who were allowed to be the dumping ground for all the non white folk as well as all the former towns folk as the countries industrial labor base was moved over seas for cheap labor. And now the robot worker era is coming and people already don't have a job but the global financial system means that markets are based on global standings so the rent in the cities can keep rising even if the populace in citiies is more and more unemployed. 

Even Hochul, the governor,  tried to make a paycheck go out to all new yorkers  and yet so many disliked the idea on all sides. why? the labor outlook isn't good. The only reason can be the fear some have that the usa will have to now give monthly paychecks to keep the system of fiscal capitalism afloat. But did and does not the usa hinder the native american community from owning businesses on reservations? did and does not the usa hinder black towns/ or regions in cities from owning a business? did and does not the usa hinder many women from equal wages when they are doing the same job? 

The USA through its military scenario before commonly called world war 2 or strength after said war, has always been able to maintain an internally inequal fiscal capitalistic system, but now in 2025 with the most powerful military, its internal system needs adjustment and the flexibility to change as needed doesn't have a simple legal pathway through. The constitution wasn't built with modern usa in mind. It was built assuming only white men would be able to have a full life in the usa and all others had part lives as the behest of white men. It was built assuming the usa would never be in the business of supporting economies of foreign countries as a side strategy to keep intersoveriegn agreements/arrangements. It was built assuming the usa would never have an immigration policy that allows an open door for the world's fiscal poor. 

so, Mamdani can win, but most of what he says he wants to do,he has no way. He has to adjust his goals, cause if he doesn't adjust his goals and he wins, he will join AOC + Obama and I find both of them make voters less interested.When you look at obama's exit, the people who voted eight years ago were not enthused.  I argue the bronx has become worse voting wise since AOC. so... 

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, richardmurray said:

 

@ProfD

 

That was three terms of bloomberg...

Gotcha. Bloomberg opened the door for de Blasio.

 

2 hours ago, richardmurray said:

I restate, MAmdani's campaign isn't about the issues that propelled de blasio. Mamdani's campaign is about a legacy of poor fiscal capitalistic management that has come to bite not only nyc but the greater usa...

Understood. Mamdani's candidacy definitely makes the mayoral race interesting. 

 

2 hours ago, richardmurray said:

so, Mamdani can win, but most of what he says he wants to do,he has no way. He has to adjust his goals...

I'd imagine Mamdani can remain in the NY State Assembly if he loses his mayoral bid.

[richardmurray]

@ProfD

7 hours ago, ProfD said:

I'd imagine Mamdani can remain in the NY State Assembly if he loses his mayoral bid.

yes, new york state doesn't have term limits for legislators or the governor though some have been trying to implement that. Hochul herself tried in 2022 to get term limits for governor/lietenant governor/comptroller/attorney general but these positions are like thrones and many don't like the idea of them being term limited. 

new york city has term limits for mayor + city council