Natural Disaster Flood in TX

[ProfD]

https://www.cnn.com/weather/live-news/texas-flooding-camp-mystic-07-08-25-hnk

 

Over 100+ people lost their lives including at least 30 childen and more than 160 people are still missing.

 

Kerr County  TX was flooded when 4 months of rainfall fell in a matter of hours.

 

Folks want to point fingers and blame someone else for a natural disaster. They refuse to believe in the power of Mother Nature.

 

[Pioneer1]

You know how the media loves to politicize everything.

During a Democrat Administration....Republicans blame the response to natural disasters on them.
During a Republican Administration....vice versa.

Look at how Bush as blamed for his response during Katrina.
Look at how Biden and the Democrats were blamed for not helping flood victims in North Carolina and were accused of "skipping over" counties and homes that supported Trump in Florida after the area was hit by major hurricanes.

[ProfD]

24 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

You know how the media loves to politicize everything.

Yep. They are in the business of *selling* news.  Big bucks roll in from sponsors.

24 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

During a Democrat Administration....Republicans blame the response to natural disasters on them.
During a Republican Administration....vice versa.

These two sides of the same coin are raking in money while sowing division among the people willing to believe in them.

 

In the meantime, humans are being killed by wars and natural disasters while these silly azz people play games.

[Chevdove]

On 7/8/2025 at 11:15 PM, ProfD said:

Folks want to point fingers and blame someone else for a natural disaster. They refuse to believe in the power of Mother Nature.

 

 

Yes. There's a lot of blaming going around. Some are blaming Black people, if you can believe that!

 

I believe that God may be hardening the heart of pharaoh, so-to-speak.

 

However, I do want to send out my prayers and sympathy for the awful deaths of the little ones and for their love ones hurting right now. May the little ones' souls RIP and go back to God. 

 

But yeah, some of these people are blaming the Black people and saying that if the money did not go to DEI, then lives would not have been lost. 

So now, some people are defining this homosexual community as meaning the Black Communities. OMG.

 

So now, it's the MAGA group vs the DEI group?

 

This one video, a young White woman said that the camp was an exclusive camp for wealthy people. She said it's strange that the other two camps nearby

had kids and no one died. Then a Black woman said that one camp was a lot of Black kids and none of them died.

 

But, here's the intrigue; 

 

This flood happened on July 4!!!

 

Okay so here we go; President Trump was supposedly to have signed his Big Beautiful Bill Act on July 4!?

 

So now, I heard that this bill will mostly affect Immigration Law, and African American children!? What!?

This MAGA regime is going to take food out of the mouths of little Black children!?

I heard that Medicaid is part of the deal and will be cut and that mothers will have to work and put in 80 hours per month. Who is going to keep the kids then?

 

So much for Reparations! Let's sacrifice the Black Americans again, after we've done rolled over them to make America. Jesus Christ. 

So now, AFrican Americans are aligned with immigrants as being the reason for the financial deficit of America?

This is insane. 

 

So therefore, on July 4, their Independence Day, this flood comes in and on this same day, a bill is signed to sacrifice little Black children? And

on this same day, there is an incredible freak flood and today, after 7 days, there's still about 160 humans missing!?

 

WOW. Don't sound like mother nature to me, but it's sounds like a move of God. 

 

Not only that but, North Carolina was hit too, and this storm is still ongoing and New Mexico was hit just recently.

And let's not forget what has happened in Iran and Israel too. Something is up!

 

 

[Troy]

On 7/11/2025 at 12:30 PM, Chevdove said:

And let's not forget what has happened in Iran and Israel too. Something is up!

 

I don't think anything special it up.  Just another day on the big blue marble.

[Chevdove]

On 7/12/2025 at 7:12 PM, Troy said:

I don't think anything special it up.  Just another day on the big blue marble.

 

Well, if there is something significant, the masses won't know until it has happened.

Just another day for the poor and oppressed I guess. 

Oppressed people just live, continue to be oppressed, and die in this big blue marble with no hope of escape... 

 

[Pioneer1]

Chev

So therefore, on July 4, their Independence Day, this flood comes in and on this same day, a bill is signed to sacrifice little Black children? And

on this same day, there is an incredible freak flood and today, after 7 days, there's still about 160 humans missing!?

 

WOW. Don't sound like mother nature to me, but it's sounds like a move of God. 

 

Not only that but, North Carolina was hit too, and this storm is still ongoing and New Mexico was hit just recently.

And let's not forget what has happened in Iran and Israel too. Something is up!

 

You know.....
For decades I would hear similar things.

 

The United States does something overseas killing hundreds or maybe thousands of innocent people including children, and when a storm hits Texas or an Earthquake hits California and 50 people died or maybe only 2 die...of heart attacks....people often claimed it was an act of "God getting even" or "sending Judgement" down on the unrighteous.
 

Now I look at it differently.
I ask questions:
 

1. Instead of letting the unrighteous KILL innocent people and children THEN sending a flood on them, why not just STOP the unrighteous from doing their dastardly deeds in the first place?

 

2. When the U.S. wants to attack Iran, they send missiles to hit their DIRECT targets and take them out with pin point precision.
But when a FLOOD or TORNADO hits...it often kills the guilty rednecks along with the children or innocent adults who happen to be in the way, so it's not very precise.
 

3. And the most glaring question I have is, if it's Divine Retribution why isn't the death toll just as high if not hire than that of the guilty?
If the unrighteous killed 14 innocent people, then that tornado that comes through should be killing THEM or atleast 14 people.
Not just 2 and a tore up house.
 

This is why I no longer call them Divine Judgements.



 

Oppressed people just live, continue to be oppressed, and die in this big blue marble with no hope of escape... 
 

I don't think it's pessimistic like that....lol.
However the media knows that the masses....especially Black people...love a catharsis.
 

In other words.....
If you're to afraid or not smart enough to defend or seek retribution for a offense committed against you, often times you'll seek your "justice" in watching a movie or comedy show where your enemies are ridiculed.

 

White man fires you on the job in an act of racism...
Instead of confronting him about it and shutting down the establishment in retribution...you go to a comedy club and laugh at a comic who makes fun of White managers and how bossy they are.
 

Instead of building an actual empire, niggaz pile up in the movie theater to watch BLACK PATHER and WAKANDA and dream about that.
Not the real thing, but something that makes them feel good after being oppressed and denied for so long.
But sometimes that fantasy gets in the way of the ACTION that leads to real life real world results.
 

[ProfD]

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

This is why I no longer call them Divine Judgements.

Right.

 

It would seem more reasonable for divine judgment to prevent humans from doing awful sh8t to each other in the 1st place.

 

Natural disasters are the Earth's form of self-cleaning.

 

Every now and then, the Earth burps or belches and people die whether it is one or several up to millions.

 

Back in 1931, there was a flood in China that killed about 4 million people.

 

1970 cyclone killed 500,000 in Bangladesh.

 

2004 tsunami killed 160,000 in Indonesia.

 

2010 Haiti earthquake killed somewhere between 100,000-316,000 people.

 

2023 earthquake killed 55,000 people between Turkey and Syria. 

 

Annually, between 40,000-50,000 people perish as a result of natural disasters.

 

Even if the death roll reaches 300 people, the flood in TX was a blip on the natural disaster scale. Definitely not divine judgment.

[Chevdove]

9 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

 

1. Instead of letting the unrighteous KILL innocent people and children THEN sending a flood on them, why not just STOP the unrighteous from doing their dastardly deeds in the first place?

 

 

@Pioneer1 I believe that the Supreme Being knows what he's doing though. If he stopped the unrighteous, it would never solve the problem right now, because history has shown that plenty of times. As soon as certain unrighteous are stopped, these sorry azz white lovin negroes open the dmn door and beg them to come right back in and be the head. This is the main problem. When Black African people can stop worshiping white people and recognize that no one is more supreme just because they are white, then this world will be a better place. This is why it would be the wrong move for the Supreme Being to stop that kind of behavior on a large scale right now. 

 

 

9 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

2. When the U.S. wants to attack Iran, they send missiles to hit their DIRECT targets and take them out with pin point precision.
But when a FLOOD or TORNADO hits...it often kills the guilty rednecks along with the children or innocent adults who happen to be in the way, so it's not very precise.
 

3. And the most glaring question I have is, if it's Divine Retribution why isn't the death toll just as high if not hire than that of the guilty?
If the unrighteous killed 14 innocent people, then that tornado that comes through should be killing THEM or atleast 14 people.
Not just 2 and a tore up house.

 

It's hard to understand how the Supreme Being could be precise when little children are hurt, but I believe that he still knows what he's doing. Little children are not being hurt because of him though. If the world was not so evil then, these natural disasters may not happen. 

 

It's not easy to see from the ground up or the whole scope but,  time will prove that, in regards to your analogy of 14 people, the unrighteous leaders are educated, and they can see that their end is near more than us 'masses' even if in one incident, it seems like only a few of the guilty are punished. The leaders rely on expert counsel. 

 

9 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

This is why I no longer call them Divine Judgements.

 

I hope that you rethink that. 

There are 8 billion  people on this planet and even though judgment may seem like a blip in time for the guilty, nevertheless, the Supreme Being knows what he is doing. 

If he lowered the boom on humanity right now, it would be a waste of time.

 

I don't care, if like ProfD posted, if the numbers of casualties are 500,000 or 4 million, nevertheless, in the grand scheme of things, we can see that today, if has not changed us humans for the better. 

 

Those figures don't even match the 200 years of little children forced on the slave ships and over the ocean during the Transatlantic Slave Ship trade, and of which many of them didn't just get shipped over the ocean, but landed in the ocean. Now today, that is history, but 4000 years ago, it was prophecy that was going to happen. And it did. 

Because those Africans loved white people so much, they let their guard down and ended up having their children stolen from them and shipped over to America to be slaves until they died. God knows what he is doing. 

 

So, I still say, yes, this recent incident in Texas is definitely Divine intervention. 

Just because the victims are white don't mean that Black people should think that this kind of occurrence is a black, white, issue of retribution. 

However, it seems to me, that the world is being warned. 

It's not just Texas that's in the news.

I just heard that New Jersey is also dealing with major flooding and boston too. In Canada too, there was a hailstorm, and Mexico is facing major floods and earthquakes. 

A major earthquake just happened off the coast of Alaska and some of these disasters are not usual, meaning there is no obvious warning like a hurricane or a known low pressure system reported. 

I think that it might be some type of meteor that maybe the scientist cannot see because it may be hidden in the sun's glare. 

Two weeks ago, there was a meteor that hit a house in Georgia and scientist reported that certain asteroids from the planet Venus might become a problem for the earth. 

Also, the Middle East is always seeming to be at war but, I don't trust this American government. I wonder if there is something going on bigger than what they are reporting. 

I just saw in the news that China and 20 other countries are angry and -- 'wars and rumors of wars'-- they are saying that they might do something to try and stop Israel.

scary!

 

 

9 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Oppressed people just live, continue to be oppressed, and die in this big blue marble with no hope of escape... 
 

I don't think it's pessimistic like that....lol.

 

lol

 

 

9 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Instead of building an actual empire, niggaz pile up in the movie theater to watch BLACK PATHER and WAKANDA and dream about that.
Not the real thing, but something that makes them feel good after being oppressed and denied for so long.
But sometimes that fantasy gets in the way of the ACTIOaN that leads to real life real world results.
 

 

Yeah, but I can understand why Black people sometimes feel hopeless. 

Nevertheless, I am not asking this government to realize that 'Black Lives Matter'. 

I am not asking this government to do what they know that they are suppose to do.

I don't begrudge anyone though, that feels they need to fight to sit at the soda counter at Woolworth though, 

or who petition the Black Caucus to speak up for us. I highly appreciate the sacrifices of Black leaders 

in trying to send representatives to the White House to try and help us get out of this Second Class citizenship status. 

No matter what, though, I just don't believe that Black people are meant to stay down forever. 

 

 

[Troy]

17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

This is why I no longer call them Divine Judgements.

 

We agree on something else @Pioneer1.  People can conjure patterns in and reasons for any event they want for all the reasons you mentioned and more. @Chevdove reply illustrates my point perfectly.

 

7 hours ago, Chevdove said:

I just don't believe that Black people are meant to stay down forever. 

 

Of course not. History tells us that so called Black people were the pinnacle of civilization for MOST of our history.  The last four hundred years, the primarily period, we are taught in school, ignored our history.

 

 

 

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

We're looking at multiple components here......

1. As you said, most natural disasters is just the Earth cleansing itself.
Just like forest fires happen every year in some places, but it just so happens that people are building their houses right in the middle of a landscape that is almost guaranteed to burn down atleast once a year.
So what were they thinking???

Which leads me to the next component........

2. These natural disasters have BEEN occurring but for millennia they were occurring in areas where the human population was sparse or non-existent so the death toll wasn't very high.
Now that you have people building apartment complexes in the middle of the woods, on top of mountains, and right on the beach on the edge of the ocean....you SHOULD expect a very high death toll if Nature decides to do her thing.
 

I remember my first time going to California and seeing all of those houses....wealthy homes....build on stilts and hanging off the sides of mountains in San Bernadino County and L.A. County as we were heading into Los Angeles.
I thought it was so crazy for people to build houses that had to rely on stilts to support them.

 

 

 

 

 

Wasn't this Earthquake territory????


3.  Yet another component.....
Just like a lot of people are in denial about racism because they find it too painful or overwhelming to accept and deal with, a lot of people are in denial when it comes to misfortune in general.
They feel they can "deal with" it better if they can find a reason why it happened and BLAME it on something or someone.
This helps them to make sense of it.

Kind of like how some people like to blame the victims for their misfortune because they don't want to accept that something bad happened to an innocent person because it would fuck up their religious beliefs.

I tend to blame most misfortune on IGNORANCE.
Meaning...

It happened because you didn't know it was coming or that it would turn out that way.
Nor did you know how to solve it when it did.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chevdove

You're right THE SUPREME BEING knows exactly what THE SUPREME BEING is doing and why it's being done.
I don't question that one bit.

However what I DO question is when someone may point at an Earthquake or Hurricane and call THAT an "act of God" or claim it was revenge for some wrong that was done overseas.
 

For example a brutha at work claiming that the flooding in Texas was revenge for what Israel did to the Palestinians.

Going back and forth...back and for....with him.
 

-It wasn't America directly but Israel who were killing the Palestinians.

-But America supports Israel.

-So were the children in Camp Mystic who drowned to death involved with the killing of Palestinians?

-Collateral damage

-But is that justice?  And what about just going after the Israeli soldiers directly involved instead?

-But Americans pay taxes which eventually goes to Israel to support their efforts.
-So you believe all Americans are involved one way or another? Aren't YOU an American yourself???

 

BACK AND FORTH WITH HIM ALL DAY FOR 2 WEEKS....lol.

 

-What about Iran targeting civilians in Israel while Israel targets Iranian military sites and government officials but usually not civilians?
-Iran doesn't have the fire power Israel has.
-But they'd use it if they did, so does not having the ability to do evil means one is innocent?

-Thousands of Palestinians have been killed by Israel in Gaza alone, yet that flood hasn't killed over 200 people....so should more natural disasters be expected?  You don't know????  So what kind of "justice" would it be if it's not Even-Steven???
-What about the racist Palestinians and what the Arabs did to Black people?
-What about the Jews who were killed in the October 7th 2024 attack they claimed started all of this?  Did their murderers get justice??

 

Back and forth all day...back and forth.

 

 

 

It's hard to understand how the Supreme Being could be precise when little children are hurt, but I believe that he still knows what he's doing. Little children are not being hurt because of him though.
 

I agree.
In the vast majority of cases of natural disasters I DO NOT think they are of Divine origin.
I think they are just what we call them...acts of Nature.
 

THE SUPREME BEING is the most Powerful and Intelligent Being in Existence, so surely THE SUPREME BEING can be far more precise and effective in punishing those who need to be punished without involving innocent people.
 

At this point....
Unless I get a DIRECT COMMUNICATION that a particular death or misfortune was Divine Retribution....I don't consider it such.
It COULD be, but I'm not going to call it such because I simply don't know and I won't accuse the Divine of doing things like that without knowledge of it.

My non-religiousness has led to even more logical thinking and more reverence for the Divine!

Now I'm a bit fearful to call something an "Act of God" if I'm not sure it actually was!
It may even be justice, but I won't say "God did it" unless I'm reasonably sure.
Do you understand what I'm saying???

 

 

No matter what, though, I just don't believe that Black people are meant to stay down forever. 
 

Neither do I.
But I believe we are ENTERNAL people.
You can't find our beginning, and our ending isn't in sight.
So the few thousand years or so White folks have been giving our people grief on this planet is just a little glitch in our long running series...lol.

 

On top of that....
I personally believe we have MULTIPLE LIVES and continue to live even when we appear to be dead in THIS world.

But that's a different story for a different thread...lol.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Troy

 

We agree on something else

 

It helps them make sense in a world that doesn't seem TO make sense.

 

An innocent child is hit by a car.
Instead of saying, "Accidents happen and we need to lower the speed limit and build fences to keep these kids out of traffic".
...some people immediately start looking for someone or something to blame.
-The child's parents
-The child
-Something that child did in a "past life"
-Maybe the child wasn't Baptized
-Maybe the parents were on drugs and the child had to pay for that
-The child's father was committing adultery and THAT'S why the child got hit

....damn.
 

Some people can come up with the craziest shit, simply because they don't want to accept that sometimes bad things just "happen".

 

Instead of looking for some sort of Divine Reason why something bad happened (and in some cases there may actually be) in most cases I see it for what it is:  a misfortune that very well can be prevented in the future by corrective action.

 

You don't like that your Aunt died of cancer when you were a kid?
Instead of asking why Jesus allowed it to happen and being angry at the church the rest of your life, grow up to be a doctor or scientist and find a cure for it so that you can cure people and prevent further deaths.

 

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Some people can come up with the craziest shit, simply because they don't want to accept that sometimes bad things just "happen".

Every living thing is born to die. Nothing escapes that eventuality.

 

Humans want to believe they're special or chosen by the Supreme Being and/or favored by Mother Nature.

 

One thing that is certain, no matter how young or old, rich or poor, regardless of race, etc., that azz will get snatched off the big blue marble one way or another.

[Troy]

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

An innocent child is hit by a car.

 

Kid is hit by a car, is crippled but does not die.  Folks will say divine intervention saved their life...  ignoring the fact that the kid was crippled by a car.

 

Anything can be justified.

 

 

[Pioneer1]

Troy

I don't think many if not most people realize that there are some things WORSE than death.
Their lack of experiences or observations have limited their scope of Reality.
 

[Chevdove]

On 7/17/2025 at 6:43 PM, Pioneer1 said:

BACK AND FORTH WITH HIM ALL DAY FOR 2 WEEKS....lol.

 

 

On 7/17/2025 at 6:43 PM, Pioneer1 said:

THE SUPREME BEING is the most Powerful and Intelligent Being in Existence, so surely THE SUPREME BEING can be far more precise and effective in punishing those who need to be punished without involving innocent people.

 

But, my question would be; Who is innocent?

 

On 7/17/2025 at 6:43 PM, Pioneer1 said:

My non-religiousness has led to even more logical thinking and more reverence for the Divine!

 

Logical thinking? My question would be from what relative basis do we think logically about certain catastrophes happening in the earth?

 

On 7/17/2025 at 6:43 PM, Pioneer1 said:

Now I'm a bit fearful to call something an "Act of God" if I'm not sure it actually was!
It may even be justice, but I won't say "God did it" unless I'm reasonably sure.
Do you understand what I'm saying???

 

Yes. I think so. Again, this goes back to what I mentioned earlier, in that the Supreme Being did not cause problems anyway, so therefore, many circumstances are due to mankind. 

 

So whether it is the people in the Middle East today, in Israel, or the Iranians, or the Palestinians, or the Arabs, or the Americans who are said to be giving aid, these events are made byway of mankind. Logically, some may believe when innocent little children are hurt, that God has something to do with it, but no, He is not doing this. 

 

And if natural disasters happen, some may believe that it is divine intervention and the Bible does mention this kind of act many times, however, it is difficult to make logical sense, to some regards. 

 

Why would God destroy the Egyptians in the Exodus and then a few hundred years later, the Jews are forced back into brutal captivity again? 

Why would ancient Rome thrive for hundreds of years and then collapse and then form a massive empire again built on human slavery? 

Some may think that the Supreme Being did not do anything to bring about the collapse of ancient Rome and that it was just an act of nature that was soon bound to happen, while others may believe the Bible in that God did bring down ancient Rome. 

Some of us may believe that it is just nature while some of us may believe that it was prophecy come to light, but for now, humanity continues and humans still exist.

I believe that the Redemption Plan is still unfolding. 

 

I believe that at times, the Supreme Being does intervene with acts of nature.

I do not understand a lot, but through study, there are some prophecies that I can see was right on target such as the prophecy of the Transatlantic Slave Ship Trade.

Another prophecy that is now old history would be when the prophet Daniel wrote about the Black Death Plague.

 

Daniel lived during the 500s BC. He wrote that the Messiah would come after the Second Temple was bullt.

He wrote that the Roman Empire would form, be destroyed and then reform. ... 

He wrote that in AD 1335, the Black Death Plague would come and it did, right on target, that very year. 

 

So, thousands of years after Daniel wrote and published his book, these events did occur and is now old news. 

And so, there are many more prophecies that have not been set to occur yet, and this may cause some people to not believe that the Supreme Being has anything to do with it, but in some way, he does make intervention to help humanity. However, He is not the one hurting innocent people. 

The Bible reveals that the Creator will address innocent victims of crime, even though it may seem hard to believe, nevertheless, He does address that issue. 

 

[ProfD]

They are having hearings down in TX to determine the who, what, when, where and how folks dropped the ball in responding to the flood.

 

White folks will not accept Mother Nature defeating them. They're going to double-down and beat each other up in the process.

 

The best thing to do is build and install better early warning and alert systems and a solid structure that can provide temporary shelter. Not something that washes away.

 

This is especially the case in places white folks prefer keeping to themselves and/or being off the grid.

 

Black folks aren't pressed to live on river banks and mountains and other places subject to floods, fires, mudslides and other natural disasters.

[Pioneer1]

Chev

For real.

Everytime the nigga walked past me he'd come at me with something he THOUGHT was new that he had thought; but it would usually be the same old re-hashed garbage about "getting even" and "pay back" that his argument was based.
 

All day every day for almost 3 weeks.....Gaza and the Texas Flood.
 

Even at lunch time in the cafeteria he would sit across from me trying to start some shit.

I'm engaging Africans in conversation and here HE comes with a nappy beard full of lint and cookie crumbs talking about White girls in shorts getting punished for showing their legs.

Ever time something happens to White folks, he saw as it as "cosmic pay back".

 
NOW he's going on and on about the beat down in Cincinnati and how THAT somehow ties into "justice" being served from from spirits of the Underground Railroad.

I'm close to finding out what Temp service he works for and giving them a call....lol.



But, my question would be; Who is innocent?
 

One could argue whether or not ANY adult is innocent, but I think we both could both agree that nearly all of the children under 5 years old are innocent.
Yet they still often get killed in natural disasters.


 

Logical thinking? My question would be from what relative basis do we think logically about certain catastrophes happening in the earth?
 

From a meteorological point of view.
 

 

I believe that at times, the Supreme Being does intervene with acts of nature.
 

I do too.
But I'm not sure which disasters in modern history I could point to as a clear example.

 

 

 

As far as prophecy goes......

What if I told you that a lot of the prophecies of the Bible SEEMED to have been fulfilled because those "prophecies" were actually written AFTER the fact?

 

In other words......
You read a prophecy that the Israelites will be taken into captive into Babylon and later on will be freed by the Persians under King named Cyrus/Korus and allowed to rebuild a 2nd Temple; and it happens!

But what if that prophecy wasn't actually written BEFORE those events occurred as people are led to believe but were written hundreds of years later on AFTER they occurred in Jerusalem AFTER the rebuilding of the 2nd Temple?
In other words, they wrote HISTORY and then stamped a much earlier date on it to make it look like PROPHECY.

 

 

 

 

 

 

ProfD

White folks will not accept Mother Nature defeating them. 
 

They have a history of this.
 

Whether it's the Earthquake of San Francisco 100 years ago or the flooding of New Orleans.

Constantly shaking their fists at the sky and "vowing" to rebuild after natural disasters.

 

[ProfD]

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

ProfD

White folks will not accept Mother Nature defeating them. 
 

They have a history of this.
 

Whether it's the Earthquake of San Francisco 100 years ago or the flooding of New Orleans.

Constantly shaking their fists at the sky and "vowing" to rebuild after natural disasters.

They are quite the resilient bunch. No quit or defeat. Build better for the *next time*.

[Chevdove]

On 8/3/2025 at 11:49 AM, Pioneer1 said:

As far as prophecy goes......

What if I told you that a lot of the prophecies of the Bible SEEMED to have been fulfilled because those "prophecies" were actually written AFTER the fact?

 

 

Oh no.

Those writings were not put on any printing press for almost a thousand years in some regards.

No one believed that the lavish Temple complex in Jerusalem would be built or demolished. 

That's like another White House being built and told that it would be demolished by a meteor storm 70 years from now. 

 

Daniel lived 500s BC.

Herod was not even born until like 30 BC. 

That's like us reading about something that will not happen until 2525 about 500 years from now. 

 

The prophet Zechariah prophesied about cars. If humans were that smart, then they would have been driving their chariots 2000 years ago and not being pulled by horses up until the days of John Wayne. 

 

The prophet Zechariah wrote that the horses were INSIDE the chariot. That kind of horse power 'engine' did not occur until Henry Ford was born. 

 

The Black Death Plague did not happen until AD 1335. Daniel wrote his book 1335 + 500 = 1835 years ago. 

 

Who could ever believe that there would come a time whereby, everyday, for about 200 years African children would be stolen from their homes and forced into massive slave ships for a year and made to lie in feces and on their sides, tightly packed for about 365 days. 

 

The prophet Ezekiel wrote that in detail, but it seems ridiculous to think that could ever happen or that world governments would do that and the human race went about their daily lives for 200 years as if it was normal!? . 

 

I can understand now, that it's possible to believe what is written about the meteor storm to destroy a third of the planet and prepare to live in caves during another ice age, in a sense but, on the other hand, just as in the past, most people that are high up in big governments don't believe it. Homeless people are being forced out of their tents, an already sad existence by the wealthy and powerful government with no fear of one day themselves having to flee back into live in Siberian caves if they are lucky. 

 

Jesus said 500 years after Daniel:
[14] And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world

for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come....

[20] But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of

the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

MATTHEW 24: 14, 20-21.

 

 

Daniel Wrote 500 years before Jesus:

[1] And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation

even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that

shall be found written in the book.
[2] And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting

life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. ... 

 

 

John's Vision: 
[2] ... Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils,.... [8]

Therefore shall her  plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she

shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord  God who judgeth her....

REVELATION 18:2, 8.

 

 

[Pioneer1]

On 8/16/2025 at 6:39 AM, Chevdove said:

 

Oh no.

Those writings were

Oh no.....

LOL.
I should have known better.

[Chevdove]

Well, the reason why, the scripture goes "Babylon is fallen is fallen in REVELATION 18:2 refers to both the First Rome and then Second Rome. 

Because of history, we know that Babylon One or [the First Roman Empire] has fallen but many people have no idea of a formation of a Second Rome. 

So, today, many people have no idea of what that means, let alone preparing for some kind of massive downfall. So, if they did know then, I would suppose

they would make sure to prevent it from happening. For the most part, people do not believe in prophecy even though many have come to past. 

 

[Pioneer1]

16 hours ago, Chevdove said:

Well, the reason why, the scripture goes "Babylon is fallen is fallen in REVELATION 18:2 refers to both the First Rome and then Second Rome. 

Because of history, we know that Babylon One or [the First Roman Empire] has fallen but many people have no idea of a formation of a Second Rome. 

So, today, many people have no idea of what that means, let alone preparing for some kind of massive downfall. So, if they did know then, I would suppose

they would make sure to prevent it from happening. For the most part, people do not believe in prophecy even though many have come to past. 

 

America is that 2nd Roman Empire.

The fact that most of the legal and medical fields choose LATIN as their cryptic language and many of their institutions are named after Roman Deities is evidence of this.
Western civilization is built off of the Roman Empire, which was built off of the Greek empire, which was built off of the Persian empire, which was built off of the Babylonian empire.

 

[Chevdove]

 

 

On 9/15/2025 at 7:26 PM, Pioneer1 said:

America is that 2nd Roman Empire.

 

Exactly!

 I've heard some White preachers even say this.

But, I was amazed once when a prominent Black preacher say that he had no idea why the American government was not mentioned in scripture and gave an explanation as to why even today, this major prophetical 'Babylonian empire' has not formed yet. LOL. 

 

The preacher's name is Allen Parr, I believe. He gave a break down on the prophecy about the Second Rome and never even considered that this American 'empire' would be what the prophets wrote about. It's been 2000 years plus 500; that prophecy should be about up by now if it is true. Unless, they were writing about space ships taking slaves to the planet Mars, then I think the trade ships are a thing of the past now. 

 

On 9/15/2025 at 7:26 PM, Pioneer1 said:

The fact that most of the legal and medical fields choose LATIN as their cryptic language and many of their institutions are named after Roman Deities is evidence of this.

 

 

Exactly. One prophecy is that 'the 8th government' would come out of the '7th government' and the last government to run over here with their colonial trade ships was the English speaking people. 

 

Even though, we are not taught history to understand everything, of AD 1335, the timeline seems to be exact to that ancient prophecy hundreds of years before even the First Roman Empire formed. In the AD 1400s, right after the Bubonic Plague, it was the [1] Portuguese and the [2] Nederlanders that first set sail for the Americas and Africa. But it was [3] Italy that started the movement that became known as 'the Age of the Renaissance' [i.e. Rebirth] in the AD 1300s. The prophecy of the deadly wound healed and a rebirth occurred and began in Italy all over again. For about a hundred years they started painting images of White Jesus and spread this form of rhetoric from Italy to France and then Africa. Then 'in 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue'. Then it was [4] the Germans and [5] the Spanish who operated together, then [6] the French. Then finally, in the 1600s, [7] the English empires [British empire] set sail and soon, they all leagued up [7-leagued]. After the French and Indian war in the 1700s, and the last war of 1812, the English speaking Americans broke off and formed this American government. The British crown was India, but for all of Europe, it was Africa and finally America that fed their system. Of course, there is so much more to this history but, the prophets detailed this even long before the rise of the First Roman Empire. 

 

The Portuguese had their Original Celts; Iberians, the Italians had their Negroes, or Lusitanians, etc., the Germans had their Spanish Gypsies, and well, the French were pretty darn a concentration of a lot of Old World Negroes that dominated the ancient Silk Road trade from the far east all the way up into Scandinavia. These Chephren men [i.e. Frenology] or Frankushite men that gave their ancient name to the country of France embraced the Austrians and Germans that controlled East Europe, the ancient Greek country like the Balkan regions and Central Europe for like a thousand years. Oh but, just like Daniel prophesied 1500 years earlier even before the Black genocide started and the Age of Colonization began, after the comet of 1066 came and a census was taken, well, the Crusaders came back to the Old Mediterranean world to cut down those Seljuk Turkish [Tur-Kushite] Muslims and then came Genghis Khan. The Great Khan and his Golden Horde and Ilkhans made the Khwarazmian empire [i.e. Chorazin] forgotten history.  

 

Thank God for the Bubonic Plague, as crazy as that sounds, because Black men were being heaped up in endless piles continuously until that plague arrived to bring a brief pause in time. After that, some of those Negroes got out of there. They fled the north world and the east. The fled the Eurasian continent of Berea [Europe], Iberea and Cholchis [Russia] and Siberea. They had enough of Khazakstan and Turkmenistan and the far east and set sail to become part of the Mayan world, or part of the Mound Civilizations, or Chaco Canyon, --far away from the Old Mediterranean World.  And some set sail back to Africa and etc. Soon though, all of sudden after about a hundred years and for those who stayed in Europe, they became Infidels. They once again became the blame for all the trouble. The Musketeers became forgotten if they were not fortunate enough to flee to the Americas and melt into the tribes of the Americas.  And the British empire knew how to benefit from all of them, the Tudors and the ancient Dorians, and the Original Celts, Moors, etc. and they set sail with these Pirates and when they got over here to America, they turned deceived them. All of a sudden, they don't know what in the 'H3ll' a Hugenot means. LOL. 

 

The Renaissance was a pivotal European cultural movement and historical period, roughly spanning the 14th to the 17th centuries, characterized by a "rebirth" of interest in classical antiquity and a flourishing of the arts, literature, science, and philosophy, marking the transition from the Middle Ages to modernity. It began in Italy... 

 

AI Overview

 

[9] And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed

till the time of the end. ... 

[11] And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the

abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be

a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
[12] Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to

the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
[13] But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest,

and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

DANIEL 12: 9, 11-13.

 

***** Seals have been ALL been opened at the time of the First Roman Empire ***** 

* Daily Sacrifice taken away means 'the Crucifixion'-- and the Destruction of temple worship-- no more going to temple

to bring the priests daily sacrifices because the temple was destroyed by the Romans

*Abomination that Maketh Desolate means Herod's renovation, and the pagan temple was erected in place of Jews' temple

and Roman idol became supreme.

--Baal Worship--in the form of Jupiter, Apollo, and an idol that their ancestors never knew 

*1290 days; thousand two hundred and ninety days. a day for a year prophecy;

A.D. 1290. Ultimately in A.D. 1290, [i.e. AD 1291 Gregorian Calendar] the Muslims were able to combat Crusade forces

and Ghengis Khan's forces stopped them from entering into Egypt. The last Battle ended the Crusades;

the Seige of Acre-- AD 1291.

* 1335 days; thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. A day for a year prophecy;

A.D. 1335-- the Black Death Plague began in China and spread across Eurasia. It arrived in London around AD 1347.

There was another surge in AD 1666. 

 

[Pioneer1]

Chev

 

 

The Book of Revelations made things a little clearer when they called that Great nation "Sodom/Rome/Babylon/Egypt" all rolled up into one...lol.

 

 

But, I was amazed once when a prominent Black preacher say that he had no idea why the American government was not mentioned in scripture and gave an explanation as to why even today, this major prophetical 'Babylonian empire' has not formed yet. LOL. 

 

It wasn't named in the Bible for a simple reason.
If they HAD named it....the founders of the country wouldn't have CALLED it  that, lol.
They'd call it something else to try to "skirt" around that prophecy...lol.

If there is a prophecy that a future nation named Canada will be ruled by devils and eventually collapse into destruction;
after reading that prophecy....what fool would sit up there and choose "Canada" for the name of nation they just established?
They'd be DOOMING it to failure.

That's why it was called "Mystery" Babylon.
So that no matter what the founders of that nation decided to call it, the nation would still fit the description of it's prophetic destination.

[Chevdove]

15 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

The Book of Revelations made things a little clearer when they called that Great nation "Sodom/Rome/Babylon/Egypt" all rolled up into one...lol.

 

Exactly!

 

 

[Chevdove]

Yes.

*In Sodom and Gomers' other cities like Sodomy and Gomorrah, existed the presence of the Amorites

*In Rome, well that is what they were; the Amorites

*In the First Babylon, that is who came to infiltrate and then dominate over the Babylonians; the Amorites and their Amalekite traders, the Celts. 

*In Egypt, the 18th Dynasty were definitely the presence of the Amorites and their Baal and Ashtoreth religion; the Aten Religion. 

 

 

[12] And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram;

and, lo, an horror of great darkness fell upon him.
[13] And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger

in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years; 

[14] And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: ...

 

... [16] But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again:

for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.

GENESIS 15: 12-14, 16.

 

Sodomites, pedophiles... predators on the Black African peoples; the priesthood of the living God. Gotta get those Negroes to accept diversity as being equal and inclusive whereby little black boys are molested and allowed to grow up thinking that it is okay to be molested and told by your parents that you are going to be homosexual, or Trans, etc. 

Thanks a lot Obama. smh.

 

So, 400 years before the Plague destroyed those pharaoh's Aten Religion, the Creator already rejected them. 

In 1776, these modern day Amorites, Separated Church and State and broke off from the Crown to keep their

Chattel Slavery law and then set up their two-party government... As if God did not know they were going to do it. LOL. 

 

[ProfD]

5 hours ago, Chevdove said:

.. As if God did not know they were going to do it. LOL. 

Regardless of man's prophecies, the rhetorical question remains why a Supreme Being or sky fairy would allows these things to happen anyway...especially the most evil.