Paschal Beverly Randolph a Black Mystic and Advisor to President Lincoln

[Troy]

Hey @Delano are you aware of this Brother?

 

@Pioneer1 before you say anything I already know Randolph does meet you criteria of being Black. 

 

I'm publishing a fictionalized account of his life: 

 

 

 

[Delano]

No I don't think so.

[Troy]

He seems like someone that might interest you. If you click the book cover, you will find an AI generated podcast that describes the book pretty well.

[Pioneer1]

On 8/12/2025 at 3:34 PM, Troy said:

 

@Pioneer1 before you say anything I already know Randolph does meet you criteria of being Black. 

 

....or the criteria of most people who have 20/20 vision and good sense, lol.

But I guess in a world where men can call themselves "women" and have that legally enforced, who's to say a White man can't be called "Black" and that simply be accepted without question also?

[Troy]

Pioneer even a cursory knowledge of American history tells you that race in America was about ancestry. 
 

This is a country where white men would rape their enslaved women then enslave their own children. It didn’t matter what they looked like. They were all treated as black.

The whole notion of passing wouldn’t even be necessary, but in this country passing as a thing because again it being black is not about what you look like

 

You heard of the man, Walter White he ran the NAACP for years.  he is what you would call a White man but he was accepted in the black community as Black. He did have African ancestry. I think it was a grandmother or something. 
 

The way you choose to group people is at odds with the way they were grouped in this country for most of its existence. 
 

The concept of race needs to be put in the dust bin of history. The reality racism really is on its way out despite the media fixation on a relative handful of wing nuts

[Pioneer1]

Troy

 

 

Pioneer even a cursory knowledge of American history tells you that race in America was about ancestry. 
 
Not necessarily.
Most AfroAmericans have Native American ancestry and many...from a genetic standpoint...have MORE Native American ancestry than African ancestry.
However the fact that they have ANY African ancestry got them labeled as negro/colored/Black by default.

 

 

The whole notion of passing wouldn’t even be necessary, but in this country passing as a thing because again it being black is not about what you look like

 

You say "this nation" as if a handful of White men who run the nation and make the rules speak for and represent the thoughts and sentiments of everybody in it.

For example, you say:

The way you choose to group people is at odds with the way they were grouped in this country for most of its existence. 

 

While you are correct generally and for conversation's sake, you're really expressing the opinions of the White racists who ran this nation, not necessarily the total population.
You're making THEM the end-all and be-all authority of who gets to define race in the United States.
You're GIVING them the power to define your reality and challenging Black people like me who choose to do it for ourselves.

 

 The reality racism really is on its way out despite the media fixation on a relative handful of wing nuts

You said he's on his way out....
But it looks to me like Racism is sitting in the living room playing dominos.

...and Donald Trump just pulled up a chair to join the game, lol.

[Troy]

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Most AfroAmericans have Native American ancestry and many...from a genetic standpoint...have MORE Native American ancestry than African ancestry.

that is a myth generated during a time when we would rather be anything but African.

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

You say "this nation" as if a handful of White men who run the nation and make the rules speak for and represent the thoughts and sentiments of everybody in it.

Yep unfortunately that is the way it works. Ego do you think invented and promulgated idea of race? 
 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

You're making THEM the end-all and be-all authority of who gets to define race in the United States.

actually that is what YOU are doing by continuing to promote the white man’s idea of race.

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Donald Trump

her is just one man, very powerful one, but just one man and far from representative of the generations of write people coming after him.

 

 

 

[Delano]

On 8/13/2025 at 1:13 PM, Troy said:

He seems like someone that might interest you. If you click the book cover, you will find an AI generated podcast that describes the book pretty well.

I did a search on him vey interesting. He started one of the first esoteric groups in America. And he has written quite a few esoteric books. 

Thanks,
Troy