National Guard Ambush in DC

[ProfD]

https://apnews.com/article/national-guard-shooting-dc-c5785dd8920d2d1ac7d71fab769faf5f

 

Two national guardsmem were shot in DC a few blocks away from the White House. They are in critical condition.

 

The gunman hss been apprehended. He is a an Afghan national. He's in critical condition too.

 

This shooting did not occur in the worse part of the city. It happened in an area that is among the safest.

 

I've heard 500 national guard will be brought back into the city. A heavy-handed reponse after the fact and with immediate threat neutralized doesn't make sense.

 

Of course, Black folks didn't have anything to do with this situation. Our best bet is to remain quiet and stay low.

 

It was just a matter of time before this happened. Unfortunately, it won't be the last time either.

[Pioneer1]

Perhaps he was looking for a justification already to bring more troops to the city.
On the other hand, if....as I suspect....this whole "bring in the troops" talk was just a trick-and-pony show designed to satisfy racists around the country and LOOK tough on crime, then this incident FORCED his hand and called his bluff.

I have mixed feelings about this.
While I don't like how this is leading to a "police state" or atleast laying a precedent to justify one, IF...and that's a big if....the presents or threat of troops actually IS reducing the violence in some of our communities whether it's D.C., Memphis, Chicago, or elsewhere...perhaps it's a good thing.
Or atleast better than nothing.


 

A heavy-handed reponse after the fact and with immediate threat neutralized doesn't make sense.

It makes sense if this was a knee-jerk reaction and he ordered those troops to the city before learning about the suspect.
Let me explain.......

When Trump first heard the news, what flashed through HIS mind....like a lot of people....was those troops were probably popped by some random young Black dude on the streets who they were probably trying to arrest or were hassling  OR by some Latino dude they were trying to hassle over immigration status.
They didn't initially believe they were actually targeted; just casualties of a "war" on the streets.

Since those were the communities being targeted, it would make sense to send 500 more as a show of force to help protect the IMAGE of being tough on crime/immigration.

Now that they've learned that the suspect was an Afghan who targeted them, expect for those orders to be rescinded.
 

[ProfD]

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Perhaps he was looking for a justification already to bring more troops to the city.

It won't take much to justify them sending more troops. 

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I have mixed feelings about this.
While I don't like how this is leading to a "police state" or atleast laying a precedent to justify one, IF...and that's a big if....the presents or threat of troops actually IS reducing the violence in some of our communities whether it's D.C., Memphis, Chicago, or elsewhere...perhaps it's a good thing.
Or atleast better than nothing.

The troop deployment on targets Black cities. 

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Now that they've learned that the suspect was an Afghan who targeted them, expect for those orders to be rescinded.
 

The perpetrator of the shooting does not fit the description of the people being policed. He drove from the west coast to DC to make his point.

 

In fact, the Afghan dude came to the US as a political refugee. He worked for the US government and helped the American military when they were in his home country. The current administration nationalized him.

 

That isn't going to stop azz POTUS OJ from ordering his administration to scrutinize every refugee. That immigration net might be cast a little wider. 

 

Again, the knee jerk reaction will not solve the problems. Fixing the policies and how they are treating people is the only way to stop people from becoming radicalized and taking action into their own hands.

[aka Contrarian]

As far as Chicago is concerned, the Nation Guard serves no purpose because it has no way of knowing where the next crime is going to occur since most of it  involves personal disputes such as road rage and murders and opportunistic robberies. 

 

Trump had a good time, going on camera, bad mouthing the situation here and calling Illinois' governor a "fat slob" in the process. smh. 

 

[Pioneer1]

What DOES set Chicago (and especially Los Angeles) apart from most other cities is that much of the violence is GANG RELATED.
In a way, that makes it a little easier to "control" the crime and violence.

When you know a neighborhood is controlled or patrolled by a particular set/clique you can control the crime and violence by controlling the leaders of that set/clique!

When I say "control" I'm not necessarily talking about threats of arresting them or incarceration but also with benefits and incentives to handle their "soldiers".
Back in the 60s the government used to give MONEY and FUNDING to some street gangs for youth programs and other community programs!

When I was a kid Detroit used to be more gang infested than it is today.
Just like the Crack Era seemed to make the Bloods and Crips stronger in Los Angeles....when Crack came to Detroit it seems to have the opposite effect.
It broke up the old neighborhood street gang because people didn't have to snatch purses or break in homes or cars to make money.  Selling rocks was easier.  
Integration also broke up many of the gangs because Black folks started leaving crowded ghettoes and projects and moving to other part of the city.
However before then, gangs were huge.

If there was anything good that came from gangs running your neighborhood it was that if your mother's purse was snatched or your house was broken into...all you had to do was go to one of the leaders (sometimes at school) and they'd find out who did it and you could "negotiate" your goods back.

This was back in the 70s and early 80s when there was still some sense of community left.
I don't think it's that way in either L.A. or Chicago today.
 

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

It won't take much to justify them sending more troops. 
The troop deployment on targets Black cities. 

I don't live in a city he has actually deployed troops in so I can only go by what Black people online and the handful that I know in real life are saying who have witnessed them.
So far, most of the feedback of his actions from Black folks are GOOD.

Not that these troops are DIRECTLY preventing crime and arresting people; but the IMAGE or BELIEF that they're going to be rolling around in tanks taking out gangsters and kicking in doors and snatching up the dope pushers -is keeping a lot of the criminals in our community in line and making them lay low.

Again, they are putting THEMSELVES in check based on the rhetoric coming from Trump.

That...in my opinion....is a good thing.
Not ideal.
But it's better than him NOT doing it and there being business as usual in the 'hood.

 

[aka Contrarian]

Nobody, including the media or police officials in their press conferences, or the street ministry spokesmen, ever talks about gangs in Chicago. The black ones seem pretty fragmented. Old leaders are either dead, imprisoned, or neutralized and no young brothas seem to be stepping up to replace them. The Hispanic ones stay in the barrios they control.

Guns and their availability are the big problem because they are instrumental in the personal beefs and individual  confrontations being settled by bullets. Whatever.

As previously mentioned the break-ins in business districts are possibly orchestrated by sophisticated outsider burglary rings.

In any case, the Nation Guard presence here didn't seem to have much of an impact. Kids were/are still dying from sporadic gunshot incidents. 

 I don't know whether they were, but Guard members should've been riding along on the trains and subways to protect passengers from the nut cases.

[Pioneer1]

 

Not sure if they still do, but when I visited Chicago and happened to take the bus years ago the bus drivers used to ride around in bullet proof CAGES....lol.

They spoke to the passengers through microphones.
 

I remember a cousin of mine taking me on the bus from his house to some place and I remember seeing police officers get on the bus.....ride a little bit...then get off....then some more would get on...then get off.
I'm not sure if they were transit police or regular city police.

But when we went through what looked to me gang territory...you didn't see any more cops getting on or off.
What you'd see is young dudes STEP ON TO the bus....look down the aisles as if they're looking for somebody....then turn right around and get off the bus....lol.
They would happen frequently.
The bus drivers looked like they were just going to mind their own business if something went down....lol.

 

 

 

Nobody, including the media or police officials in their press conferences, or the street ministry spokesmen, ever talks about gangs in Chicago. The black ones seem pretty fragmented. Old leaders are either dead, imprisoned, or neutralized and no young brothas seem to be stepping up to replace them.

Many of them have went to other cities.
I used to live in Minneapolis and remember extensively hearing every other night on the news about how "Chicago gang members" did this or did that in Minneapolis or St.Paul.
Both the Disciples and Lords were strongly established there as far back as the 90s.
I remember going to the malls and seeing kids set tripping and this was back in the late 90s.

[Troy]

Deploying National guide troops and one of the safest areas in the country blocks away from the White House is a waste of time money and human resources. sadly the guys were critically injured for no good reason.  
 

Those two guys should’ve been doing whatever the heck they were doing before they were unnecessarily deployed to DC.

[ProfD]

Sadly, one of the shooting victims, a 20 year old female, has died. She was on duty so that others could spend the holiday with their families.

[Pioneer1]

3 hours ago, ProfD said:

She was on duty so that others could spend the holiday with their families.

More specifically, so that others could get the TIME OFF.
We don't know what they were actually doing during that time off.

Maybe in 1825 or even 1925 Thanks Giving was a time most Americans spent with their families.
But in 2025 most Americans spend the holidays getting drunk and high....lol.

Most American families are either broken or non-existent.

[harry brown]

The. National. Guard.   Shootings.  Have. Been. A. Distraction.  From.  The. Epstein.  Files. .......   .      .

[ProfD]

Deploying the national guard was a distraction. The shooting was a really unfortunate event.

 

The American people won't allow the pedo-files to get buried. That doesn't mean they're going to get any real answers and/or closure.

[Pioneer1]

9 hours ago, harry brown said:

The. National. Guard.   Shootings.  Have. Been. A. Distraction.  From.  The. Epstein.  Files. .......   .      .

Or an excuse to modify the immigration policy and halt all immigration from Asia and Africa.

The suspect is said to be an Afghan national, yet somehow during these past few days the focus has changed from Afghanistan to Somalia and the Somalis of Minnesota.