The Strike On Nigeria

[Pioneer1]

Let's call it for what it is.....
Nigeria got pimp slapped.

Nigeria claiming to "ok" this strike or even "ask" for it is just an effort to save face because in reality there wasn't much they could have done to stop it anyway.

It's like that DJ Pooh in Friday trying to save face with Deebo by not asking for his bike back..........

He didn't ask for it back because he was AFRAID to.
He knew Deebo would only give it back IF he wanted to and WHEN he wanted to and there wasn't shit he could do about it.
He knew Deebo could easily beat his ass...lol.
His ignorant ass father either didn't know or didn't understand this and tried to FORCE the boy to "stand up" for himself and demand the bike back and the results were as expected:

 

 

 

The same situation applies to Nigeria.

Trump was going to strike in Nigeria anyway whether the government agreed to it or not and there was little they could do to stop it.
Them "objecting" to it or putting up some sort of resistance would have only made things work because they aren't militarily strong enough to do so.
But there's another problem.........

The REACTION so many Black podcasters are having over this strike.
They sound like Pooh's silly ass father  when they criticize Nigeria and call them weak or point the finger at them as if they actually could of done otherwise.
It shows a level of insensitivity, ignorance, and immaturity that's I'm beginning to expect from them when it comes to criticizing other Black folks for doing or not doing things that THEY clearly aren't in a position to do either.

 

 

 

"Why yall let America strike targets in your country like that?
Why didn't yall fight back?
Man,yall weak....see...that's why yall aren't respected by other nations!
They wouldn't have done that to China!
Africans need to learn how to be a military force to be respected and reconned with!"


These same niggaz on podcasts criticizing Nigeria for "letting" Trump strike inside the country....if the police come up in THEIR house and slap them and their families around and lock them up....ain't shit THEY would be able to do about it besides sit there and cry.
So many American Black folks have been beat up and shot down by the police and THEY didn't fight back, but they want to criticize Africans and other Black nations when racism harms them and THEY don't fight back.

It is what it is.
These Black folks didn't fight back because they weren't strong enough to.
Calling themselves "fighting back" ...at this point...would have probably made the situation worse because America would have probably responded with a strike that would have decimated what military power they DO have!

 

 

We can criticize people for selling out, especially when it's not necessary; however Black people need to stop this habit of attacking fellow victims of racism.

It's clearly a cover or way to deal with their own misplaced feelings of helplessness.
 

[ProfD]

As I mentioned in the other thread, this is not about Nigeria refusing to allow the US to strike Isis. 

 

The Nigerian military along with their police if necessary, should have been able to wipe out Isis in their country.  Isis is no bigger than a street gang there.

 

I'll re-type:

 

Herein lies one of the *problems* for Black countries.  When a man allows another man to fight his battles, he becomes a b8tch. 

 

These African countries will never never have true sovereignty as long as white folks are allowed to protect them.

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

We can criticize people for selling out, especially when it's not necessary; however Black people need to stop this habit of attacking fellow victims of racism.

It's clearly a cover or way to deal with their own misplaced feelings of helplessness.

Again, your perspective is shaped by your love for and/or bias towards non-FBA Black folks.

 

IMO, ALL Black folks need to stand up and hold their own nuts in fighting against racism white supremacy.

 

The alternative is shut up and bend over for the buck-breaking.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

It's all a game being played by the global racists.

The European racists are in bed with the Arab racists.
Both have used their religions, cultures, along with their Black African flunkies to assist them in dividing and conquering Black Africa.

The problem is large and complex.
My concern is when Black people start turning on eachother....both abroad and at home.
 

 

 

Again, your perspective is shaped by your love for and/or bias towards non-FBA Black folks.
IMO, ALL Black folks need to stand up and hold their own nuts in fighting against racism white supremacy.

Ofcourse.
That, and common sense....lol.
 

The Racists don't act independantly....they're GLOBAL and act as a team or unit.
So why should the VICTIMS of racism be expected to hold their own and act independently?

There is power in UNITY....not everybody trying to hold their own and fight their own separate little battles.

But even if we don't fight, the least we can do is not turn on eachother by pointing fingers, giggling, and blaming the victim.

Infact, Black Americans can do more to help Nigeria than even Nigeria because this is OUR country in the sense that we have a degree of say so over military actions and can vocally speak out against unjust strikes.
You do have Black people in Congress as well as on the SCOTUS and Black folks all over the media who COULD speak out if we were truly interested in justice.



 

The alternative is shut up and bend over for the buck-breaking.

They aren't just doing that...

Like the Somali fraud situation....they aren't just keeping their mouths shut and staying out of it....they are actually SIDING with Trump and the other Republicans and either blaming Nigeria for being victimized or laughing at them and cheering it on.

I said a week ago that when I saw them joining along with Trump's racist attack against the Somalis.....
Dog piling on them and laughing at them, it was a sign of how stupid and immature so many of our people are and they'll be doing the same to other Africans next and then when he starts to turn on Black Americans....they'll be participating in THAT TOO.

Just like there is no honor among thieves...there is no honor among fools either.

Don't think these same Black podcasters who are laughing at or criticizing Africans when they are attacked won't turn around and do the very same things to fellow so-called "FBA" Black folks too....and have some weird ass excuse for doing so.

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

The problem is large and complex.
My concern is when Black people start turning on eachother....both abroad and at home.
 

So why should the VICTIMS of racism be expected to hold their own and act independently?

There is power in UNITY....not everybody trying to hold their own and fight their own separate little battles.

When have Black folks been united?

 

Tribalism still exists.  it is heavy among Black folks in other countries.  Even within the country, the people are sub-divided.

 

FBA/AfroAmericans do not have any friends/allies outside the USA. 

 

Sure, our people could be more mature and not giggle and laugh at other Blacks for getting the racist treatment. 

 

However, when Black people bring the BS on themselves especially after delineating from and throwing shade at us, they are going to get clowned.

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

But even if we don't fight, the least we can do is not turn on eachother by pointing fingers, giggling, and blaming the victim.

I certainly was not advocating that Black folks fight among themselves. 

 

How long should victimhood be accepted and/or tolerated?

 

I'm going to allow someone to get their azz whupped especially if they are not fighting back. 

 

At a certain point, when it is clear that they are powerless and/or cannot win, I will step in and break it up.  But, I have to see effort first.

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Infact, Black Americans can do more to help Nigeria than even Nigeria because this is OUR country in the sense that we have a degree of say so over military actions and can vocally speak out against unjust strikes.
You do have Black people in Congress as well as on the SCOTUS and Black folks all over the media who COULD speak out if we were truly interested in justice.

For whatever reason, you choose not to accept the fact that these n8gglets are powerless.  They just occupying a seat and collecting money. 

 

Let's see how much Rep. Ilhan Omar can do to help her fellow Somalis domestically and abroad.

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

The alternative is shut up and bend over for the buck-breaking.

They aren't just doing that...

Like the Somali fraud situation....they aren't just keeping their mouths shut and staying out of it....they are actually SIDING with Trump and the other Republicans and either blaming Nigeria for being victimized or laughing at them and cheering it on.

I was referring to ALL Black folks allowing racism white supremacy to continue buck-breaking them. 

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

I said a week ago that when I saw them joining along with Trump's racist attack against the Somalis.....
Dog piling on them and laughing at them, it was a sign of how stupid and immature so many of our people are and they'll be doing the same to other Africans next and then when he starts to turn on Black Americans....they'll be participating in THAT TOO.

FBA/AfroAmericans clowning the Somalis and any other group getting the bizness from racists is par for the course. 

 

Remember...those Black folks delineated from and have been throwing shade at us for a long time now.

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Just like there is no honor among thieves...there is no honor among fools either.

Don't think these same Black podcasters who are laughing at or criticizing Africans when they are attacked won't turn around and do the very same things to fellow so-called "FBA" Black folks too....and have some weird ass excuse for doing so.

Class clowns never get old.

 

At some point, I might petition FBA/AfroAmericans to stall out the non-FBA Black folks.  

 

In the meantime, you might want to tell those non-FBA Black folks to rethink their strategic alliances too.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

When have Black folks been united?

As a collective mass?
....it's been a while, lol.

As an entire community, FBA's ain't really been united since we came together to vote Obama in office.

 

 

 

 

Tribalism still exists. it is heavy among Black folks in other countries. Even within the country, the people are sub-divided.

Much of it is fueled by self hatred.
I was at a school today and saw how much Black kids went out of their way to try to get along with the White and Latino kids while clowning on eachother.
 

 

 

 

 

FBA/AfroAmericans do not have any friends/allies outside the USA.

Lol...well shit....how many friends/allies do we have INSIDE the USA????

 

I think individually, there are plenty of AfroAmericans with friends and connections.
Not on the level we'd like, but it exists.
A lot of FBA are doing good business in Africa and with Africans both here and abroad.
My concern is that the rhetoric I'm hearing from a lot of FBA influencers will tarnish that and in some cases ruin the relationship as people are forced to take sides in a petty squabble.

 

 

 

 

Sure, our people could be more mature and not giggle and laugh at other Blacks for getting the racist treatment.

However, when Black people bring the BS on themselves especially after delineating from and throwing shade at us, they are going to get clowned.

Somalis never delineated....lol....because they didn't consider themselves part of us anyway.

 

 

 

 

I certainly was not advocating that Black folks fight among themselves.

I know that.
Most of what I'm posting isn't directed at any comments YOU have made but the comments I'm seeing from a lot of other Black influencers and commentators on social media lately....because I know for a fact that many of them read my posts on this site.

 

 

How long should victimhood be accepted and/or tolerated?

For as long as you can't do anything about it. 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm going to allow someone to get their azz whupped especially if they are not fighting back.

Presuming Nigeria was just fronting and the leadership really DID resent the strikes Trump performed on their nation, what would you have had them do in response?
What would YOU do if you were the leader of Nigeria and Trump sent missiles into the nation?

 

 

 

 

 

 

At a certain point, when it is clear that they are powerless and/or cannot win, I will step in and break it up. But, I have to see effort first.

Oh....
So you want to play the role of Renaldo Rey in Friday, huh?

When they step to America and end up getting knocked the fuck out, you want to come running to their rescue to "break it up" only for America to flex on YOU TOO and force you to go scampering back to whatever sand pile or mud hut you hailed from...lol.
 

 

"Sorry to bother you.

Come on fool, and get up and pick your teeth up off the ground.
Why you come down here fucking with these people?"

Ain't no "stepping in" to help somebody fight America or break it up and keep America off of them.
America is CLEARLY the dominant force on the planet as far as nations go and for the time being will do as she pleases.
I'm not saying it's right....I'm saying that appears to be the way it is right now.
Other countries KNOW this, and they aren't going to put themselves in a position to be made an example of.

Nigeria did the right thing based on where they are currently.
.....which is sit there and TAKE that shit with a smile and HOPE America doesn't take further action.


 

 

For whatever reason, you choose not to accept the fact that these n8gglets are powerless.

Because they're not, that's the reason.

The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said that our unity is powerful.
We have changed the course of this nation both inside and out when we stood together as a people.

AfroAmericans aren't powerless....it's that we aren't USING our power as a community and it's laying dormant.
 

 

 

 

I was referring to ALL Black folks allowing racism white supremacy to continue buck-breaking them.

What other choice do they have right now, brutha PD?

Do you know of a secret weapon Black folks can whip out and defeat the System of Racism with?
You don't have to say what it is on a public forum....lol....just confirm that one exists that YOU know of.

 

 

 

 

FBA/AfroAmericans clowning the Somalis and any other group getting the bizness from racists is par for the course.

Remember...those Black folks delineated from and have been throwing shade at us for a long time now.

As I said before, the Somalis weren't with our community to begin with and the foolishness I'm seeing from both sides online certainly isn't going to bring the two communities any closer together, lol.

As for the rest of the non-FBA Africans.....some were down with us, some were not.
We can't throw them all under the bus or use THAT as an excuse not to speak up for the injustices that they face.

It goes back to the point that I'm making about trying to justify mistreatment to hide one's powerlessness.
If we as Black Americans can't help Africans when they are being mistreated we should either admit that and offer our condolences OR just shut the fuck up about it and focus on our own business.
But these niggaz ain't doing that.
They're JOINING with the racists to attack and humiliate other Black folks.
 

 

 

 

 

 

At some point, I might petition FBA/AfroAmericans to stall out the non-FBA Black folks.

In the meantime, you might want to tell those non-FBA Black folks to rethink their strategic alliances too.

If they decided to, who's the "head nigga in charge"?

With the state of "unity" in our (FBA) community today, where or who is the "leader" that they could actually sit down with and have a conversation with to unite the communities?

...other than Minister Farrakhan, maybe.

But some of these weed smoking purple lipped niggaz are so delinquent and rebellious that they can't even get along with or unite with their own family members, let alone be trusted enough to unite with Black people from other cultures.

Reminds me of something Neely Fuller Jr. said when somebody called up and asked why don't  Africans talk to Black folks when they come to America and see them out on the street?
 

Mr. Fuller responded in that deep baritone voice of his:
 

"Why they don't talk to the Black folks?
Talk to the Black folks for what?
What would they get out of it?
....besides....maybe.....
chased DOWN the street if they stopped and tried to talk to the WRONG Black folks!"

  

....that line still has me laughing when I think about it, LMBAO.

[ProfD]

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Lol...well shit....how many friends/allies do we have INSIDE the USA????

It starts with looking in the mirror. Build strategic alliances with folks who think similarly.

 

For example, the influencers and podcasters do have a following. Grow from there.

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I think individually, there are plenty of AfroAmericans with friends and connections.

Sure we do.

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

My concern is that the rhetoric I'm hearing from a lot of FBA influencers will tarnish that and in some cases ruin the relationship as people are forced to take sides in a petty squabble.

Nope. Conversations with our folks will keep that from happening.

 

I stay on the bumper of non-FBA folks in my clan. They understand both sides of it.

 

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Somalis never delineated....lol....because they didn't consider themselves part of us anyway.

Exactly. Some of these people don't even claim being Black.

 

No reason to cape for them any more than we would for Ukrainians.

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

How long should victimhood be accepted and/or tolerated?

For as long as you can't do anything about it. 

There's always something to be done about it. People don't want to sacrifice anything especially their freedom or life.

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Presuming Nigeria was just fronting and the leadership really DID resent the strikes Trump performed on their nation, what would you have had them do in response?
What would YOU do if you were the leader of Nigeria and Trump sent missiles into the nation?

Again, I'm not suggesting Nigeria should have prevented or confronted the US about the strikes.

 

The Nigerians should have eliminated Isis if they were a problem in their country.

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

At a certain point, when it is clear that they are powerless and/or cannot win, I will step in and break it up. But, I have to see effort first.

Oh....
So you want to play the role of Renaldo Rey in Friday, huh?

Again, that's not the point I'm making here.

 

Countries should fight their own battles first. 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Ain't no "stepping in" to help somebody fight America or break it up and keep America off of them.

This was never about stepping to America.

 

It's about getting rid of terrorists in their homeland. 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Because they're not, that's the reason.

The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said that our unity is powerful.
We have changed the course of this nation both inside and out when we stood together as a people.

AfroAmericans aren't powerless....it's that we aren't USING our power as a community and it's laying dormant.

The Black folks in positions of power aren't in the game to uplift or help our people.

 

They have accepted a comfortable spot and a paycheck within the system of racism white supremacy.

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I was referring to ALL Black folks allowing racism white supremacy to continue buck-breaking them.

What other choice do they have right now, brutha PD?

Do you know of a secret weapon Black folks can whip out and defeat the System of Racism with?
You don't have to say what it is on a public forum....lol....just confirm that one exists that YOU know of.

There's plenty black folks can do to break the system of racism white supremacy.

 

The main thing is we could stop enriching them in everything from providing entertainment to shopping in their establishments. 

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

As I said before, the Somalis weren't with our community to begin with and the foolishness I'm seeing from both sides online certainly isn't going to bring the two communities any closer together, lol.

FBA/AfroAmericans won't benefit from an alliance with them.

 

The Somalis have fled a whole country. Also, they're still fighting among themselves over there.

 

Yesterday, it was announced that Somaliland, an enclave within Somalia, has been recognized by Israel as sovereign.

 

They are cozy with the devil as always. 

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

As for the rest of the non-FBA Africans.....some were down with us, some were not.
We can't throw them all under the bus or use THAT as an excuse not to speak up for the injustices that they face.

We don't have anything to do with the injustices they're facing. Our focus should be reparations. 

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

If we as Black Americans can't help Africans when they are being mistreated we should either admit that and offer our condolences OR just shut the fuck up about it and focus on our own business.

We definitely don't have any business trying to help another group of people when our sh8t ain't straight over here.

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

But these niggaz ain't doing that.
They're JOINING with the racists to attack and humiliate other Black folks.

Class clowns in effect. Nothing we can do about them.

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

If they decided to, who's the "head nigga in charge"?

With the state of "unity" in our (FBA) community today, where or who is the "leader" that they could actually sit down with and have a conversation with to unite the communities?

There's no singular person in charge among most groups of people.

 

Gotta sit down with the heads of various factions within the group.

 

Think of it in terms of how the United States is constructed from 50 states to their representatives at the federal and state levels.

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

...other than Minister Farrakhan, maybe.

Minister Farrakhan oversees one faction among FBA/AfroAmericans. I'm not so sure that he actively runs NOI nowadays. 

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

But some of these weed smoking purple lipped niggaz are so delinquent and rebellious that they can't even get along with or unite with their own family members, let alone be trusted enough to unite with Black people from other cultures.

There's someone who's built tough enough to talk to them. No shortage of intelligent gangstas among us.

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Reminds me of something Neely Fuller Jr. said when somebody called up and asked why don't  Africans talk to Black folks when they come to America and see them out on the street?

Africans are brainwashed into delineating from FBA/AfroAmericans long before they come to the USA.

 

Again, Africans are tribal within their own countries. The only people they really trust and admire are white folks and other non-Blacks.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

 

It starts with looking in the mirror. Build strategic alliances with folks who think similarly.

For example, the influencers and podcasters do have a following. Grow from there.

 

Most of their following is as a result of sensationalism and friction....not productivity, facts, and building.
Most people who support them and give money do so to hear them gossiping and criticizing and fighting against other Black people.
If they start talking about let's build a hospital or school or so something positive...their subscribers would drop like hot rocks...lol.

They love the drama.

 

I stay on the bumper of non-FBA folks in my clan. They understand both sides of it.

I can't say the same.
Although I'm intimate with a few, I don't have any Africans or West Indians that I know of in my family.

 

 

 

 

 

There's always something to be done about it. People don't want to sacrifice anything especially their freedom or life.

Can you really blame them?
Especially when you look at the type of "thanks" they often get for making that sacrifice.

Look at many of the sacrifices the Civil Rights generation made, and look at how some of these young dudes come on social media with nappy beards dogging them and claiming how they didn't do anything for the community and didn't leave a legacy.
It used to be sacrilegious to criticize the Civil Rights generation......not anymore.

Who wants to sacrifice for a people as ungrateful and obnoxious as that?
 

 

 

 

 

The Nigerians should have eliminated Isis if they were a problem in their country.

Maybe they didn't see them as a problem.
About half if not more of Nigeria is Muslim.
The West sees them as a problem, but maybe Nigeria didn't.

On top of that.....that's Nigeria's problem to deal with, not the West's

That's like China launching strikes into Los Angeles and killing people they called "Crips" while claiming they were doing it to save the lives of the Bloods who were being slaughtered through gang warfare.
That's none of China's business...lol.
 

 

 

 

Countries should fight their own battles first.

I understand.
But it wasn't a sincere fight....Trump was just flexing.
Some even say it's really about oil and trying to take Nigeria's resources.

 

 

 

 

There's plenty black folks can do to break the system of racism white supremacy.

The main thing is we could stop enriching them in everything from providing entertainment to shopping in their establishments.

While you're right...this entertainment is the only thing that keeps some of our people from going crazy UNDER the system.

It's like taking the drugs away from a drug addict who is being sexually abused.
The reason they started using drugs was because of the sexual abuse.
Take the drugs away and they'll have no other way to deal with it and may go stone crazy.

Entertainment (and drugs) are often OUTLETS for Black people living in an oppressive system they feel they can't escape.
Take that entertainment/escape away from them and that may launch them into a feeling of hopelessness.

Even YOU say that you are uplifted and motivated by your music and it gets you high.

 

 

 

 

FBA/AfroAmericans won't benefit from an alliance with them.

The Somalis have fled a whole country. Also, they're still fighting among themselves over there.

Yesterday, it was announced that Somaliland, an enclave within Somalia, has been recognized by Israel as sovereign.

They are cozy with the devil as always.

 

I agree, you can't trust them.
Even if they DID connect with Black Americans initially....because of their racial confusion and considering themselves closer to Arab than African you couldn't be sure where their loyalty lays.
 

 

 

 

 

We don't have anything to do with the injustices they're facing. Our focus should be reparations.

I agree that our focus should be Reparations, however there are connections between what we go through and what Africans go through that should be recognized.

It's part of being well rounded and what Neely Fuller Jr. called: UNIVERSAL MAN and UNIVERSAL WOMAN

 

 

 

There's no singular person in charge among most groups of people.

Gotta sit down with the heads of various factions within the group.

Besides Minister Farrakhan and the Hebrew Israelites, where is the leadership?

You know how independent minded so many of our people are.
They claim they don't need a leader and don't want anybody telling them what to do.

Say what you will about him but Dr. Umar Johnson is one of the most dynamic conscious speakers in our community today and he doesn't even have 10 men following him...lol.
 

Oh they'll listen to him all day, but wouldn't FOLLOW him to the corner store to buy a bag of chips...lol.

 

 

[ProfD]

10 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Most of their following is as a result of sensationalism and friction....not productivity, facts, and building.

Most people who support them and give money do so to hear them gossiping and criticizing and fighting against other Black people.
If they start talking about let's build a hospital or school or so something positive...their subscribers would drop like hot rocks...lol.

They love the drama.

It's no different from people listening to preachers.

 

The fact remains that those who do have a following could make things happen if they were inclined to change their grift into nation-building. 

 

The church building fund could become a school especially when the members are already sitting in a big azz church building.

 

10 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Can you really blame them?

Especially when you look at the type of "thanks" they often get for making that sacrifice.

The sacrifice would be for the greater good of future generations of our people.

 

Dr. MLK Jr. and brother Malcolm X had naysayers while they were alive. It didn't stop them from doing the work.

 

Despite n8gglets all over the place, things have changed for FBA/AfroAmericans since the time those men were assassinated.

 

10 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Who wants to sacrifice for a people as ungrateful and obnoxious as that?

It takes a special person who's willing to lay down their life for others. Especially knowing some are ungrateful and undeserving of the sacrifice.

 

10 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Maybe they didn't see them as a problem.

About half if not more of Nigeria is Muslim.
The West sees them as a problem, but maybe Nigeria didn't.

On top of that.....that's Nigeria's problem to deal with, not the West's

The Nigerians agreed with the strike. They didn't execute it themselves.

 

Let another man fight the battles and rest assured that he'll take over the house, bed and women too.

 

10 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Countries should fight their own battles first.

I understand.
But it wasn't a sincere fight....Trump was just flexing.
Some even say it's really about oil and trying to take Nigeria's resources.

Exactly. The US will get rid of your terrorists and control the black gold too.

 

That's why a handful of Nigerians are driving Bentleys and Benzes on dirt roads up to mansions in the middle of nothing. 

 

10 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

There's plenty black folks can do to break the system of racism white supremacy.

The main thing is we could stop enriching them in everything from providing entertainment to shopping in their establishments.

While you're right...this entertainment is the only thing that keeps some of our people from going crazy UNDER the system.

Black folks should own the entertainment they provide. Not just be employees.

10 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

It's like taking the drugs away from a drug addict who is being sexually abused.
The reason they started using drugs was because of the sexual abuse.
Take the drugs away and they'll have no other way to deal with it and may go stone crazy.

Eliminate the problem. Kill the abuser or have them killed. 

 

10 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Entertainment (and drugs) are often OUTLETS for Black people living in an oppressive system they feel they can't escape.
Take that entertainment/escape away from them and that may launch them into a feeling of hopelessness.

Nothing wrong with enjoying entertainment.   

10 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Even YOU say that you are uplifted and motivated by your music and it gets you high.

Right. I can entertainment myself. I don't have to enrich white folks with it.

 

10 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

I agree that our focus should be Reparations, however there are connections between what we go through and what Africans go through that should be recognized.

We literally cannot afford to walk and chew gum at the same time in that regard.

 

10 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

It's part of being well rounded and what Neely Fuller Jr. called: UNIVERSAL MAN and UNIVERSAL WOMAN

NF Jr. was referring to as it relates to dismantling the system of racism white supremacy and replacing it with a system of justice.

 

It wasn't necessarily about building alliances with other Black folks. In fact, it was no contact until we had our own sh8t together. 

 

10 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Besides Minister Farrakhan and the Hebrew Israelites, where is the leadership?

It's spread out over various factions and  organizations.

 

10 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Say what you will about him but Dr. Umar Johnson is one of the most dynamic conscious speakers in our community today and he doesn't even have 10 men following him...lol.
 

Oh they'll listen to him all day, but wouldn't FOLLOW him to the corner store to buy a bag of chips...lol.

Other than religion, Black men usually do not follow other men who talk a lot and produce nothing.

 

If there is an inkling or proof that a man is full of sh8t, another man definitely won't be following him.

 

Some.Black men gave Dr. Umar Johnson a pass for a little over a decade before they cashed in their chips and left the table.

 

If Dr. Umar Johnson had produced something tangible instead of grifting under the guise of building a school, he would potentially be a leader of men.

 

Most dudes could see through Dr. Umar Johnson within 10 minutes of him talking and blinking and repeating himself.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

The sacrifice would be for the greater good of future generations of our people.

Dr. MLK Jr. and brother Malcolm X had naysayers while they were alive. It didn't stop them from doing the work.

They had a CALLING...Divine in my opinion...to do what they did.
If you have a Divine Calling....nothing will stop you except FOR the Divine.

However the vast majority of laborers in any movement will not be Divine but will be rank and file human beings looking for human benefits like wealth, fame, prestige, and respect.
If they don't see a way of getting those benefits, they aren't going to bother putting in the work.

Nobody wants to work their ass off and put their lives in danger only to be called a "coon" or "sell out" by the next generation of youngsters who weren't around to know how much work they put in or how far we actually came.

 

 

 

 

 

It takes a special person who's willing to lay down their life for others. Especially knowing some are ungrateful and undeserving of the sacrifice.

Facts.

No intelligent person will expect ALL of the people of a community to appreciate their work and sacrifice.
But when it gets to the point where MOST of the people are indifferent to your efforts and don't appreciate them, then the human part of you begins to wonder what's the point of even doing it?

That's why so many people end up selling out.
They don't see any benefit or reward in being loyal to people who don't care or appreciate one way or the other.



 

 

The Nigerians agreed with the strike. They didn't execute it themselves.

Well, if they truly agreed with it...then there's no problem
The blood isn't on their hands.

 

 

 

 

 

Let another man fight the battles and rest assured that he'll take over the house, bed and women too.

Unless he is so powerful he could have done that already IF he wanted to.
 

 

 

 

 

That's why a handful of Nigerians are driving Bentleys and Benzes on dirt roads up to mansions in the middle of nothing. 

1. If America wants to control the oil in Nigeria...they will find a way to do it anyway, strike or no strike...and there's little the Nigerians can do about it.

2. Who's to say that America and the West isn't ALREADY controlling Nigeria's oil reserves?
Like Saudi Arabia and these other oil rich nations; they ultimately have to come to the West with their oil to get it refined, on the market, and exchanged for currency anyway.

3. This may sound a little callous but it's better for a HANDFUL of Nigerians to be driving Bentleys and Benzes than for NONE of them to be.
People can be broke and poor all by themselves, poverty doesn't need company.

You don't help poor people by staying poor yourself, lol.

 

 

 

 

 

Eliminate the problem. Kill the abuser or have them killed.

Most abused people don't have that mentality.
If they did,  they wouldn't have gotten abused in the first place.

Everybody can't be Miss Sofia....lol.

 

"I loves Harpo....Lord knows I do.
But I'LL KILL 'EM DEAD  'fo I let him beat on me!"
 

 

 

 

 

 

We literally cannot afford to walk and chew gum at the same time in that regard.

Let's look at this carefully......

We DIDN'T fight for Africans -and we weren't getting Reparations.
We're NOT fighting for Africans right now -and we're STILL not getting Reparations as of right now.

Looks to me like NOT fighting for Africans didn't help us...lol.
 

 

 

 

 

 

In fact, it was no contact until we had our own sh8t together.

If you're waiting until niggaz get their shit together before making contact with others, then.....

 

 

 

You're gonna be waiting a minute.....lol.

 

 

 

Other than religion, Black men usually do not follow other men who talk a lot and produce nothing.

If there is an inkling or proof that a man is full of sh8t, another man definitely won't be following him.

Some.Black men gave Dr. Umar Johnson a pass for a little over a decade before they cashed in their chips and left the table.

If Dr. Umar Johnson had produced something tangible instead of grifting under the guise of building a school, he would potentially be a leader of men.

Most dudes could see through Dr. Umar Johnson within 10 minutes of him talking and blinking and repeating himself.

 

I take it YOU didn't donate to the FDMG Academy!

Shame on you Prof D!

Just for that, you won't be allowed to visit the school on opening day in the year 20.........LOL

 

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

They had a CALLING...Divine in my opinion...to do what they did.
If you have a Divine Calling....nothing will stop you except FOR the Divine.

Right.

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

That's why so many people end up selling out.
They don't see any benefit or reward in being loyal to people who don't care or appreciate one way or the other.

Sellouts, bootlicks and shills are no different from coons on the plantation during slavery. 

 

The same type of n8gglets that snitched on Nat Turner and got him killed.

 

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

The Nigerians agreed with the strike. They didn't execute it themselves.

Well, if they truly agreed with it...then there's no problem
The blood isn't on their hands.

 

Let another man fight the battles and rest assured that he'll take over the house, bed and women too.

Unless he is so powerful he could have done that already IF he wanted to.
 

That's why a handful of Nigerians are driving Bentleys and Benzes on dirt roads up to mansions in the middle of nothing. 

1. If America wants to control the oil in Nigeria...they will find a way to do it anyway, strike or no strike...and there's little the Nigerians can do about it.

2. Who's to say that America and the West isn't ALREADY controlling Nigeria's oil reserves?
Like Saudi Arabia and these other oil rich nations; they ultimately have to come to the West with their oil to get it refined, on the market, and exchanged for currency anyway.

3. This may sound a little callous but it's better for a HANDFUL of Nigerians to be driving Bentleys and Benzes than for NONE of them to be.
People can be broke and poor all by themselves, poverty doesn't need company.

You don't help poor people by staying poor yourself, lol.

As long as this line of thinking is the default position, Black folks will never be unified or get UP.

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Eliminate the problem. Kill the abuser or have them killed.

Most abused people don't have that mentality.
If they did,  they wouldn't have gotten abused in the first place.

Everybody can't be Miss Sofia....lol.

That's because we are not training Black folks to be that way. 

 

For one reason or another, self-defense is not an automatic thing that is taught in the Black community.  Many white folks learn how to kill early in life.

 

The funny thing is that Black folks will join the military where the primary objective is to kill or be killed in defense of the country.
 

The 1st things they do in the military is teach new recruits 1) discipline, 2) physical fitness and 3) how to kill.

 

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

We literally cannot afford to walk and chew gum at the same time in that regard.

Let's look at this carefully......

We DIDN'T fight for Africans -and we weren't getting Reparations.
We're NOT fighting for Africans right now -and we're STILL not getting Reparations as of right now.

Looks to me like NOT fighting for Africans didn't help us...lol.

There is absolutely no reason that FBA/AfroAmericans should be fighting for Africans. 

 

I do not recall Africans getting on ships and rescuing our ancestors from slavery.

 

It is funny that other Black folks expect FBA/AfroAmericans to cape for them despite their delineation from and disrespect towards us.

 

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

In fact, it was no contact until we had our own sh8t together.

If you're waiting until niggaz get their shit together before making contact with others, then.....

I'd rather let our people die on their own terms instead of caping for those who don't give a sh8t about us anyway.

 

Of course, I didn't donate to FDMG Academy.  I listen to Dr. Umar Johnson for comedic entertainment.

 

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

As long as this line of thinking is the default position, Black folks will never be unified or get UP.

Do you think a more "socialist" mentality where most Black people refused to get rich or build wealth unless they did it as a community would produce better results?
If so, what's the evidence of that?

Is there a Black socialist type country that we can look at as a model of success and wealth?


The fact is....
Some....a lot...of Black people are poor and broke because of the POOR CHOICES that they've made in their lives.
Especially the Black people in America.
Many....not all...but too many are broke because of heavy drug use, criminal activities that fuck up their records, etc..
Ofcourse most of this is as an indirect result of racism, yet it's a fact none the less.

A crack head's life is fucked up because they smoked crack.
Yes the racists in the government brought it in to destroy the community, yet the fact remains that their life is fucked up because they chose to smoke the crack!

You can't put your life or success on hold trying to help dysfunctional or stupid people; especially when they don't want to improve themselves.
Rather than lift THEM UP.....many of them will PULL YOU DOWN.

 

 

 

There is absolutely no reason that FBA/AfroAmericans should be fighting for Africans.

What about for a financial or social/sexual incentive?
 

 

 

 

I do not recall Africans getting on ships and rescuing our ancestors from slavery.

Besides the ones who SOLD some of our Ancestors and participated in Slavery who were a small percentage, how many Africans even KNEW we were over here?
 

 

 

 

It is funny that other Black folks expect FBA/AfroAmericans to cape for them despite their delineation from and disrespect towards us.

At this point, I don't know how many Africans are even expecting or asking for us to.
Many of them just keep away from AfroAmericans and focus on building wealth for their own communities.

I hear a lot of Black podcasters claim Africans are begging for help.
But whatever help their asking for....it's usually from White folks, not Black Americans...lol.

 

 

I listen to Dr. Umar Johnson for comedic entertainment

Me too.
I'm very analytical and can separate the man from his words.
He says a lot of good things, has a lot of insight, and much of his social observations are on point.
But his effectiveness is very questionable.
 

[ProfD]

27 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Do you think a more "socialist" mentality where most Black people refused to get rich or build wealth unless they did it as a community would produce better results?

Absolutely not. I believe in capitalism and socialism too.

 

Folks should be free to make as much money as they can as long as it does not bring hurt, harm or danger to others.

 

As NF Jr. often said, we have a responsibility to help our people who need it the most.

 

27 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Is there a Black socialist type country that we can look at as a model of success and wealth?

As I've often mentioned, Scandinavian countries seem to have found a balance between capitalism and socialism. 

 

However, the Scandinavians do benefit from having a mostly homogeneous racial make-up.

 

But, Black folks can use that model as a blueprint in how to take care of each other.

 

27 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

The fact is....
Some....a lot...of Black people are poor and broke because of the POOR CHOICES that they've made in their lives.

Environmental conditions matter. Those conditions were set by the system of racism white supremacy. 

 

27 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

You can't put your life or success on hold trying to help dysfunctional or stupid people; especially when they don't want to improve themselves.
Rather than lift THEM UP.....many of them will PULL YOU DOWN.

Eliminate the conditions that breed drug abuse, poverty, violence and hopelessness. 

 

27 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

There is absolutely no reason that FBA/AfroAmericans should be fighting for Africans.

What about for a financial or social/sexual incentive?

Those incentives will appeal to individuals mostly. 

 

Not so much to FBA/AfroAmericans as a group. Gotta tear down several walls ofmisunderstandingss first.

 

27 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

I do not recall Africans getting on ships and rescuing our ancestors from slavery.

Besides the ones who SOLD some of our Ancestors and participated in Slavery who were a small percentage, how many Africans even KNEW we were over here?

No excuses. They knew their ancestors were taken somewhere. 

 

27 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

It is funny that other Black folks expect FBA/AfroAmericans to cape for them despite their delineation from and disrespect towards us.

At this point, I don't know how many Africans are even expecting or asking for us to.

They don't ask directly. Show up in their countries and soon find out.

27 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Many of them just keep away from AfroAmericans and focus on building wealth for their own communities.

Right. As they should. Stack bread. Send it back home to build. 

 

27 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

I hear a lot of Black podcasters claim Africans are begging for help.
But whatever help their asking for....it's usually from White folks, not Black Americans...lol.

They don't care who gives up that mean green. Money makes the world go round.

 

27 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

I listen to Dr. Umar Johnson for comedic entertainment

Me too.
I'm very analytical and can separate the man from his words.
He says a lot of good things, has a lot of insight, and much of his social observations are on point.
But his effectiveness is very questionable.

Dr. Umar Johnson is textbook example of someone with a personality disorder. Highly intelligent. Completely dysfunctional.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD


Absolutely not. I believe in capitalism and socialism too.

 

Exactly.
A mixed economy is the way to go.
Keep things balanced.

 

 

Folks should be free to make as much money as they can as long as it does not bring hurt, harm or danger to others.

 

Thank you.
 

 

 

As NF Jr. often said, we have a responsibility to help our people who need it the most.

I'm not so sure about that.
Certainly Mr. Fuller taught it....but I don't think it's always the best approach to take.

Your girl Cynique claims I worship Neely Fuller and take his words as the Gospel truth, but this is evidence that I don't.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As I've often mentioned, Scandinavian countries seem to have found a balance between capitalism and socialism.

However, the Scandinavians do benefit from having a mostly homogeneous racial make-up.

 

Yes.
That, and NATO/United States protects them so most of their money doesn't go to a massive military budget.
Same with Japan.

These countries didn't become "great" or "ideal" until AFTER WWII when America went overthere helping to rebuild them, protect them, and kept their nations stable.
 

 

 

 

But, Black folks can use that model as a blueprint in how to take care of each other.

Yes.
However we need a HIGHER POWER to keep out communities stable and protected WHILE we focus on improving ourselves.




 

Eliminate the conditions that breed drug abuse, poverty, violence and hopelessness.

True.
However just understand that one of those conditions is a fucked up brain.

The VAST MAJORITY of those condition...drug abuse, poverty, violence, and hopelessness....is caused by racism, directly and indirectly.
But a certain percentage of people are going to be fucked up regardless of the conditions they hail from because their brains were already weak and vulnerable.

 

 

Those incentives will appeal to individuals mostly.

Not so much to FBA/AfroAmericans as a group. Gotta tear down several walls ofmisunderstandingss first.

That's where improvement in our community is going to start....with the individual.
Individual success is what eventually leads to community success.

 

You're not going to have a successful community without successful individuals first paving the way.
 

 

 

Right. As they should. Stack bread. Send it back home to build.

That sounds nice, but some of them come from countries where they CAN'T build anything as long as the current regime is in office.
All the money they send back goes to whoever is the current dictator and his family.
 

 

 

 

They don't care who gives up that mean green. Money makes the world go round.

Exactly.
They know who's buttering their toast...lol.

If most AfroAmericans can barely pay their own bills and support themselves and the ones who ARE millionaires aren't giving any of it to Africa or investing in Africa, why should they look to US for their sustenance?

 

 

 

 

Dr. Umar Johnson is textbook example of someone with a personality disorder. Highly intelligent. Completely dysfunctional.

Yeah, all you have to do is just look at many of his interviews and how he reacts to people who disagree with him to realize that he's egotistical and narcissistic.

I believe he bought those buildings and sincerely looked for people to staff them with but his personality is so domineering and overbearing that can't nobody work with him.
Especially men.

He'd be worse than a dictator, trying to control every aspect of what his teachers taught, how they dressed, what they did in their personal lives, etc...
I bet he'd control everything they said and did on social media.

You can't work for somebody like that....for long.
 

[ProfD]

53 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

As NF Jr. often said, we have a responsibility to help our people who need it the most.

I'm not so sure about that.
Certainly Mr. Fuller taught it....but I don't think it's always the best approach to take.

Your girl Cynique claims I worship Neely Fuller and take his words as the Gospel truth, but this is evidence that I don't.

IMO, NF Jr. is right in that regard.

 

Taking care of those who need the most help reduces the likelihood of them becoming hopeless, desperate and dangerous.

 

53 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

That, and NATO/United States protects them so most of their money doesn't go to a massive military budget.

Same with Japan.

These countries didn't become "great" or "ideal" until AFTER WWII when America went overthere helping to rebuild them, protect them, and kept their nations stable.

Those nations were stable before the US & NATO started protecting them.

 

Japan jumped into some sh8t they had no business during WWII.

 

As a consolation for dropping them thangs (nuclear bombs), the US felt obligated to rebuild and make Japan an ally.

 

The relationship between the US & Japan has been fruitful for many decades now. I'm sure brotha @richardmurray would disagree.

 

53 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

However we need a HIGHER POWER to keep out communities stable and protected WHILE we focus on improving ourselves.

Good luck. A higher power hasn't save any country or group of people yet.

 

It takes 1) violence or 2 ) benevolence for a group of people to improve themselves.

 

53 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

But a certain percentage of people are going to be fucked up regardless of the conditions they hail from because their brains were already weak and vulnerable.

That's a human condition we can manage within reason. 

53 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

That's where improvement in our community is going to start....with the individual.

Individual success is what eventually leads to community success.

 

You're not going to have a successful community without successful individuals first paving the way.

Team sports shows that working together cooperatively leads to success.

 

53 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

That sounds nice, but some of them come from countries where they CAN'T build anything as long as the current regime is in office.
All the money they send back goes to whoever is the current dictator and his family.

Instead of fleeing to a predominantly white country, I wonder why those Black folks won't solve that problem in their home countries.

 

if a man cannot stand on bizness in staying put and fixing his home country, he has no right to flee & talk sh8t to and/or look down on people in another country. 

 

53 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

If most AfroAmericans can barely pay their own bills and support themselves and the ones who ARE millionaires aren't giving any of it to Africa or investing in Africa, why should they look to US for their sustenance?

Africans should not be looking to us for help that we cannot afford to give them.

 

However, when FBA/AfroAmericans show up in African countries the only thing they want from us is a bag of money.

 

53 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Dr. Umar Johnson is textbook example of someone with a personality disorder. Highly intelligent. Completely dysfunctional.

Yeah, all you have to do is just look at many of his interviews and how he reacts to people who disagree with him to realize that he's egotistical and narcissistic.

I believe he bought those buildings and sincerely looked for people to staff them with but his personality is so domineering and overbearing that can't nobody work with him.
Especially men.

As someone with intimate knowledge of property investment, construction, improvement, etc., everything I read and saw about Umar's school project raised BS flags.

 

The problems Umar supposedly had with contractors was nothing more than a delay tactic. He was stringing folks along to continue his grift. 

 

I believe Umar is comfortable now knowing poeple will give him money just to hear him talk his sh8t and blink and repeat himself. Kinda like a pork chop, er, Pan-African preacher.

[richardmurray]

Happy 2026 all

 

@ProfD 

2 hours ago, ProfD said:

Those nations were stable before the US & NATO started protecting them.

 

Japan jumped into some sh8t they had no business during WWII.

 

As a consolation for dropping them thangs (nuclear bombs), the US felt obligated to rebuild and make Japan an ally.

 

The relationship between the US & Japan has been fruitful for many decades now. I'm sure brotha @richardmurray would disagree.

 

@Pioneer1 is correct that the cold war alliance the usa made with japan/western european countries/ or others was based on a strategy, the usa provides financial assistance while said countries international allegiance went to the usa's militaristic agenda and not the soviet union's especially in the last century.

 

But he is wrong to suggest the USA protects these countries, the USA didn't and doesn't. We have the hindsight of history to see the truth. The Soviet Union was never an external actor. The soviet union never had the resources to make a grand push against the usa's seven fleets. But the soviet union always had potential philosophical allies in various countries in the world. Nippon was actually not going to be rebuilt by the usa until japanese communist not financially supported by the soviet union were gaining or had the majority of popular momentum in japan and the usa feared if china + japan go communist then the USA wouldn't have an early strike position. So the usa then did what it did everywhere in humanity at the end of the second white european imperial war SWEIW, commonly called world war 2, and that is support the various financial wealthy  caste in a country to keep the fiscal poor in said country down and not communist. you see this everywhere. The usa knew it could work cause that is what happened after the end of the war between the states. The truth is, like the rich japanese/germans/french/italians/argentineans/chinese who became the taiwanese/and others who were all financially broken after the SWEIW and were able to quell fiscally poor japanese/germans/french/italians/argentineans and others who had huge non fiscal capitalistic movements. the rich whites of the south after the war between the states were broken and the usa government supported southern fiscally wealthy whites to lord over the black southern populace, which at that time was over 90% of the black populace of the usa which also had a non fiscal capitalistic philosophy in it. 

As miyazaki correctly points out in "Grave Of The Fireflies" fiscally poor japanese who suffered in nippon during the war and had to deal with white statian bullying after then watched from the rubble as the fiscally wealthy japanese who were the primary supporters of the japanese imperial machine and were broke were funded by the usa to keep down the popular socialist movement in japan which besides being socialist was more importantly, anti usa. And this was done everywhere, in france/italy/nigeria/congo- poor lumumba whose crime wasn't opposing fiscal capitalism but wanting to actually run a country on even fiscal capitalistic principles which the usa could never allow/argentina/brasil/a long list. So to suggest the usa protected other countries is an insult to history. None of what I just said is fantasy. We talk of the vietnam war but again, what really happened. Ho chi minh won the election , people forget this. Ho chi minh didn't talk about attacking the usa or france, but he wasn't going to be an ally of the usa like a mobuto or suharto or the rest of the cronies all throughout humanity whom the usa militaristically supported by killing their rivals and providing them money just so the masses of people under them can be fiscally poor and suffer, thus aiding usa dominance. So the usa then attacked vietnam and the very profitable vietnam war happened, which damaged vietnam in many ways, far beyond money. So... the usa is not a protector and it is a historical insult to suggest it. 

 

As for greatness, I don't think pioneer or me or you have a decent definition to what makes any government great. Western Europe and Japan were arguably more stable or self sufficient before the SWEIW. From a militaristic perspective all were greater before SWEIW. As for "ideal" well, Pioneer is speaking in the 250th anniversary of the usa as a member of GI Joe. Saying another country is ideal when it is enslaved to the one you live in is... well... I don't communicate like that. I have always hoped even as a child that Nippon be free of the usa. If I was from Nippon I would hate that another country has a massive military base in my country. You are not free until you can defend yourself. It is that simple. 

 

Profd I concur to you, I do not oppose your first position concerning stability. 

 

But I oppose your position about japan's activities during the SWEIW. All governments of power would and will reach to conquer, it is the way of power, to want more. It is inevitable. Nippon's flaw wasn't getting into SWEIW, it was pearl harbor, and the greater overreach. Before pearl harbor Nippon had taken over, Korea/northern China/northern pacific islands/coast of southern china, had half of sakhalin island. JApan had tripled its size. Like Germany in Europe, before the usa got in the war, each had achieved a massive growth in territory absent the bureaucracy or management to handle. Nippon's problem like all empires, including the usa,  is not knowing when to let go. When to realize you don't need to keep going. Napoleon did this. Napolean lost against haiti or kemet before his european adventures. So he knew about lost, but after taking over all of Europe outside england and european russia and european ottoman empire  he chose to make a grand campaign to russia which was overreach and like all other empires met his inevitable doom. Japan didn't know when to stop, bullies rarely do. Temujin, Genghis Khan , knew when to stop, so it can happen, but it is rare. 

 

And as I said the USA didn't rebuild Nippon for the nuclear bombs, it is historical fact the usa had no plans on rebuilding Nippon until the people of Nippon went philosophically opposed to the usa and the usa needed a big military base to contain the communist world so to speak, it was not out of consolation. 

 

Well... I concur and oppose the relationship between the usa and japan has been fruitful. It is both answers. The relationship is bearing positive fruit concerning the usa's needs. the usa in japan got a very willing financial ally, Remember, even thought white european western europe as a region has wealth, japan as a single country was wealtheir than any country in western europe including germany. That says a lot. The japanese sinfully accepted that terrible financial deal of making cars in the usa to sell to the usa market, which was great for the usa cause it allowed the usa labor market, which was being failed by domestic firms,  to get boost of labor that shouldn't be in the usa. 

And this is why I say, it was barren, a negative fruit, concerning Japan's needs. Japan didn't do anything wrong being financially efficient. The USA has over ninety percent market lead in the automotive/electronics/agricultural  global markets at the end of the SWEIW, commonly called WW2. Why did the usa lose these things? Wasn't black peoples fault. white people control all industries in the usa. The big firms in the usa all employ graduates to all the ivy league schols, supposedly the best of the best, so why lose market share? why? cause the ivy league schools are educationally as important as social networking important. The firms in the usa have such a long history of abusing black people and taking advantage of native americans that in any even financial setting they fail, and thus germany/japan/china/russia/italy/brasil all overcame huge market disadvantages with efficiency true quality.  But, the USA made Japan pay terribly for each success. Japan should had called in that debt they bought years ago. and I argue never have bought it in the first place. Japan should never have derailed their earned domestic labor growth by giving jobs to usa autoworkers. Japan should had fought to make militaristic agreements with china+ korea+ russia to get the usa out of their country but didn't for various reasons. so... 

 

The usa /japan relationship has been positive for the usa and negative for japan. It isn't that it hasn't been fruitful but that fruit is a one way street. The USA has always meddled very negatively in Nippon to manipulate that country and those who run it, the kawaakis and et cetera who lost it all after SWEIW and were made wealthy by the usa artificially , post SWEIW have been the stoolies for the USA they were paid to be. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

IMO, NF Jr. is right in that regard.

Taking care of those who need the most help reduces the likelihood of them becoming hopeless, desperate and dangerous.

Some of these clowns you can't help.
Look at how so many parents have been killed by their own crazy ass drug addicted children who they let stay with them.
The ONLY way to take care of some of these fools is to take them out back somewhere and take care of them...as Dr. Umar would say:
 

 

                 "FOR GOOOOOD!"
 

 

 

 

 

Good luck. A higher power hasn't save any country or group of people yet.

It takes 1) violence or 2 ) benevolence for a group of people to improve themselves.

When I say a HIGHER POWER needs to keep the community stable and protected I'm talking about another benevolent nation who would have our best interests in mind.
 

Ofcourse I definitely welcome DIVINE POWER to come in and do it; however since I'm talking to YOU....I was speaking of a powerful nation.
A nation with a military strong enough to keep us protected from any outside aggression or meddling in our affairs as well as one strong enough to step in and prevent our community from devolving into chaos and civil war....so could focus strictly on improving ourselves.

I don't know of any nation on the planet currently who is strong enough AND benevolent enough to do this for AfroAmericans.

 

 

Team sports shows that working together cooperatively leads to success.

That's because sports teams are a controlled environment where:

1. There's a clear and undisputed leader: The coach

2. There's a clear objective: To win games

3. Although many people may try out and join the team, the team only keeps players who are qualified to BE on the team.

Those who aren't qualified or players who become dead weight on the team end up getting cut.
How do you "cut" unqualified members from an entire race or ethnic group?

 

 

 

 

 

Instead of fleeing to a predominantly white country, I wonder why those Black folks won't solve that problem in their home countries.

Surely that's a rhetorical question.....lol.
 

 

 

 

 

if a man cannot stand on bizness in staying put and fixing his home country, he has no right to flee & talk sh8t to and/or look down on people in another country. 

Many Africans don't look down on White Americans....they look down on BLACK Americans, lol.
They figure they're in the country because WHITE FOLKS let them come here...not us....and THAT'S who they choose to do business with.

Many of them don't even consider Black folks as "real Americans"...lol.
That's why so many of them were surprised that we couldn't be deported.

They feel this is "white folks" house.

If I'm a guest in somebody's house, I'm concerned about how THEY feel....not one of their dysfunctional children living down in the basement, lol.

 

Now excuse me as I kick back, drink some herbal tea, and read this joint richardmurray just dropped....lol.

[richardmurray]

haha @Pioneer1

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Some of these clowns you can't help.

The universe eventually takes care of those beyond reach.

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Look at how so many parents have been killed by their own crazy ass drug addicted children who they let stay with them.

The numbers haven't reached epidemic levels like fentanyl deaths. That's when white folks will start ringing the alarm.

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Ofcourse I definitely welcome DIVINE POWER to come in and do it; however since I'm talking to YOU....I was speaking of a powerful nation.

 

A nation with a military strong enough to keep us protected from any outside aggression or meddling in our affairs as well as one strong enough to step in and prevent our community from devolving into chaos and civil war....so could focus strictly on improving ourselves.

 

I don't know of any nation on the planet currently who is strong enough AND benevolent enough to do this for AfroAmericans.

FBA/AfroAmericans don't need a pimp.

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Team sports shows that working together cooperatively leads to success.

That's because sports teams are a controlled environment where:

1. There's a clear and undisputed leader: The coach

Not necessarily. Some team owners lead it.

 

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

2. There's a clear objective: To win games

Professional sports teams are set up to make tons of money. Winning is secondary. 

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

How do you "cut" unqualified members from an entire race or ethnic group?

Relegate them to a certain class/status. 

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

 

 

 

if a man cannot stand on bizness in staying put and fixing his home country, he has no right to flee & talk sh8t to and/or look down on people in another country. 

Many Africans don't look down on White Americans....they look down on BLACK Americans, lol.

I was referring to them looking down on FBA/AfroAmericans based on propaganda they have been fed by white folks.

 

However, just like my African tribe had to learn, a lot of FBA/AfroAmericans are very well off. Can't look down on us. We don't need them for anything. 

 

They show up at my house for family functions grinning and smiling like Jack-O-Lanterns and drinking and eating up food like they just jumped off a Save the Children commercial.

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

They figure they're in the country because WHITE FOLKS let them come here...not us....and THAT'S who they choose to do business with.

Many of them don't even consider Black folks as "real Americans"...lol.
That's why so many of them were surprised that we couldn't be deported.

They feel this is "white folks" house.

Only up until they're around successful FBA/AfroAmericans. They learn.

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Now excuse me as I kick back, drink some herbal tea, and read this joint richardmurray just dropped....lol.

Enjoy brotha @richardmurray's latest white paper.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

The universe eventually takes care of those beyond reach.

Unfortunately for most of the victims of these dope-sick monsters, not soon enough.
More often than not the LAW is forced to hunt them down and either kill them or lock them up for the violence and crimes they committed against loved ones.

 

 

 

 

FBA/AfroAmericans don't need a pimp.

Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of AfroAmericans who give away MILLIONS of dollars to these preachers and pastors every year keeping them driving in nice cars, living in fine homes, and dressed in the finest clothes...lol.

Atleast pimps PROTECT they hoez and make sure they have a place to stay, lol.
 

 

 

 

 

Professional sports teams are set up to make tons of money. Winning is secondary.

Ok, you are pulling a @frankster now,  and making your examples more specific than they initially were....lol.

First you simply said "sports teams", but now you're talking about PROFESSIONAL sports teams.

Professional sports is a whole different ball game (pun intended....lol)
When it comes to professional sports the objective is to make money, whether that involves winning OR taking a dive and losing on purpose.

 

 

 

However, just like my African tribe had to learn, a lot of FBA/AfroAmericans are very well off. Can't look down on us. We don't need them for anything.

I'm not so sure about that.
Do we "need" them? No
But if we were smart we could certainly use them and their connections to Africa to benefit our community....IF we were smart.

This immature back-n-forth so many of our people are engaging in with the Africans is just down right juvenile and non-productive in my opinion.
 

 

 

They show up at my house for family functions grinning and smiling like Jack-O-Lanterns and drinking and eating up food like they just jumped off a Save the Children commercial

 

LOL.

Looks like you be treating them to Soul Food Sundays.

 

 

 

 

 

Only up until they're around successful FBA/AfroAmericans. They learn.

Sometimes it has the opposite effect.
While most see successful AfroAmericans and realize they've been lied to, others see successful AfroAmericans and become jealous and resentful and wish they could take their place.

 

 

 

Enjoy brotha @richardmurray's latest white paper.

I have a cousin who can taste it if you change from Zig-Zags to Tops...lol.

[ProfD]

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

FBA/AfroAmericans don't need a pimp.

Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of AfroAmericans who give away MILLIONS of dollars to these preachers and pastors every year keeping them driving in nice cars, living in fine homes, and dressed in the finest clothes...lol.

Atleast pimps PROTECT they hoez and make sure they have a place to stay, lol.

When people have been brainwashed over several generations, it's harder for them to believe and/or accept they are being tricked.

 

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Professional sports teams are set up to make tons of money. Winning is secondary.

Ok, you are pulling a @frankster now,  and making your examples more specific than they initially were....lol.

First you simply said "sports teams", but now you're talking about PROFESSIONAL sports teams.

It was not my intention to pull a move. 

 

Sports teams at any level usually require a collective effort in order to win. 

 

Every now and then, there is a Michael Jordan or LeBron James type athlete who hogs the spotlight.

 

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I'm not so sure about that.
Do we "need" them? No
But if we were smart we could certainly use them and their connections to Africa to benefit our community....IF we were smart.

Getting to the point of FBA/AfroAmericans being able to work with Africans requires a great deal of reprogramming on both sides.   The juice may not be worth the squeeze.

 

Keep in mind that Africans are tribal within their own countries. They can't get along with each other within the country and/or with their neighboring countries.  That's why there is no United Countries of Africa.

 

 

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Sometimes it has the opposite effect.
While most see successful AfroAmericans and realize they've been lied to, others see successful AfroAmericans and become jealous and resentful and wish they could take their place.

Greed and jealousy are universal human flaws.  A person has to know how to deal with h8ters accordingly.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

When people have been brainwashed over several generations, it's harder for them to believe and/or accept they are being tricked.

That made me think of Kanye's statement of 400 years of slavery being a "choice".
It was an inappropriate statement, but it was still thought provoking none-the-less.

ONE person in ONE lifetime can be brainwashed.
But if an ENTIRE COMMUNITY all get on board with the same bullshit generation after generation, that speaks of a problem deeper than brainwashing in my opinion.

Dogs and humans have lived together for THOUSANDS of years.
Just about every relationship maintains the humans on top. We're the masters.
Dogs are never in charge....regardless of generation.

My question for you is: Do you think this is because the dogs were simply "brainwashed" over the generations?
 

 

 

 

Getting to the point of FBA/AfroAmericans being able to work with Africans requires a great deal of reprogramming on both sides. The juice may not be worth the squeeze.

I agree, and it's already happening on an individual level.
I speak from both experience as well as observation.

I'm not sure if programing or RE-programming is the issue as much as it's about INTELLIGENT PEOPLE FROM BOTH SIDES getting together for constructive purposes and ignoring the fools among us who keep shit stirred up.

Because they'll eventually see the light and come snooping around anyway when they see we got shit poppin'

Funny thing.....
The same Black man at my job who USED TO complain about African women and talk about how ugly they were and how much they stanked and he didn't want to work around them, all it took was ONE of them to smile at him and say good morning a couple times and the nigga walked around all day with an erection.
I'm talking about a LITERAL erection that was so strong you could see it through his pants....lol.
He didn't even realize it until another brother pointed down at it and told him to stop playing before he get's fired....lol.

You can't pay some of these clowns any attention.

 

 

Keep in mind that Africans are tribal within their own countries. They can't get along with each other within the country

But we can?

Lol.....
2 niggas going to the SAME CHURCH will end up rolling around in the parking lot with eachother after Sunday Service....if you don't watch 'em.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Greed and jealousy are universal human flaws. A person has to know how to deal with h8ters accordingly.

Agreed.
Which is why some of the smartest people don't let ethnicity or religious denomination influence who they do business with because they know much of it is superficial.
You have intelligent and not so intelligent people in all races and ethnicities.
The key is to rock with people you vibe with and on YOUR level (or level up) to get things accomplished.

 

[ProfD]

7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

ONE person in ONE lifetime can be brainwashed.

But if an ENTIRE COMMUNITY all get on board with the same bullshit generation after generation, that speaks of a problem deeper than brainwashing in my opinion.

Religion has been brainwashing people for hundreds of years.

 

7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Dogs and humans have lived together for THOUSANDS of years.
Just about every relationship maintains the humans on top. We're the masters.
Dogs are never in charge....regardless of generation.

My question for you is: Do you think this is because the dogs were simply "brainwashed" over the generations?

Dogs and humans aren't in the same species. They have evolved differently. 

7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I'm not sure if programing or RE-programming is the issue as much as it's about INTELLIGENT PEOPLE FROM BOTH SIDES getting together for constructive purposes...

Absolutely. That applies to people across the planet. Find common ground. Connect and build.

 

7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Funny thing.....

The same Black man at my job who USED TO complain about African women and talk about how ugly they were and how much they stanked and he didn't want to work around them, all it took was ONE of them to smile at him and say good morning a couple times...

That guy is an example of a goofy dude. No reason to waste that much energy only to be turned upside down.

 

7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

The key is to rock with people you vibe with and on YOUR level (or level up) to get things accomplished.

As brotha frankster called it...finding your tribe.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

Religion has been brainwashing people for hundreds of years.

True.
However I'm focusing on the REASON why it's able to do so with SOME people and not with others.
Why are some people more gullible than others.

 

 

 

Dogs and humans aren't in the same species. They have evolved differently.

I understand.
So what's your answer to the question?
 

 

 

 

 

 

Absolutely. That applies to people across the planet. Find common ground. Connect and build.

And this almost goes without saying for most intelligent people who run into eachother.
I think intelligent Black people regardless of culture or nationality should find and focus on eachother and leave the fools out of our circles.

I think THAT will be a better and longer lasting solution than TRYING to unite with some dope smoking purple lipped fool who simple comes from the same "lineage" as you.
 

 

 

 

 

 

That guy is an example of a goofy dude. No reason to waste that much energy only to be turned upside down.

Now that particular dude is actually a pretty intelligent dude if you got to know him....lol.
But like many AfroAmericans, he has a lot of prejudices against Africans and he's also a very pro-FBA oriented dude who listens to Tariq Nasheed religiously.

But a couple of them African women have him wrapped around their little fingers now.

AND he's married....lol.
One of the African women told me he keeps trying to take her to Wal-Mart...lol.

 

 

[richardmurray]

haha @ProfD + @Pioneer1

[ProfD]

30 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Religion has been brainwashing people for hundreds of years.

True.
However I'm focusing on the REASON why it's able to do so with SOME people and not with others.
Why are some people more gullible than others.

It's easy to brainwash people who have to believe in something. 

30 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Dogs and humans aren't in the same species. They have evolved differently.

I understand.
So what's your answer to the question?

No. Dogs aren't brainwashed. They are powerless when it comes to humans. 

 

30 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

I think THAT will be a better and longer lasting solution than TRYING to unite with some dope smoking purple lipped fool who simple comes from the same "lineage" as you.

Most people connect to their culture before they venture outside of it. 

 

30 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

That guy is an example of a goofy dude. No reason to waste that much energy only to be turned upside down.

Now that particular dude is actually a pretty intelligent dude if you got to know him....lol.

An intelligent dude can still be goofy especially when it comes to women. His prejudices were based on ignorance. Being smitten after a smile and his subsequent actions is a telltale sign.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD
 

 

 

It's easy to brainwash people who have to believe in something.

They say that humans are hardwired to be religious or believe in religion.
You have to condition yourself not to.
I'm not even sure if you SHOULD.

One of the strongest motivators is HOPE.
The belief that things can possibly get getter.


 

 

No. Dogs aren't brainwashed. They are powerless when it comes to humans.

Right.
I figured this was your answer but I didn't want to assume.

The dog isn't ruled by humans from one generation to the next because he was brainwashed, but because the humans are simply smarter.
It doesn't matter WHAT or WHICH generation you focus on.....you'll find humans running the show, lol.
Same with population groups.
Smart people ruled over foolish people in the past, they rule over them today, and they will rule over them in the future.
The pattern repeats itself.

 

 

Most people connect to their culture before they venture outside of it.

True.
But intelligent people aren't going to stay aboard a sinking ship.

I'll rock with you as long as things are going in the right direction.
As soon as you start talking crazy and sparking an old rusty lighter trying to light up a crack pipe...it's time for me to grab my hat and go, lol.

I can't help your grandmother and Mine both come from the same small town in Georgia and make turkey dressing and banana pudding the same way.
If you're smoking Crack now, your values and goals aren't lined up with mine.
I'd rather get with Mtumbe from Nigeria and try to get something going with HIM over some joloff rice and catfish soup....lol.

[ProfD]

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

They say that humans are hardwired to be religious or believe in religion.

You have to condition yourself not to.
I'm not even sure if you SHOULD.

Obviously, I don't believe that. People are indoctrinated into religion. 

 

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

One of the strongest motivators is HOPE.

People wouldn't need hope if life was fair.

 

Human greed makes life harder for the masses.

 

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Same with population groups.

Smart people ruled over foolish people in the past, they rule over them today, and they will rule over them in the future.
The pattern repeats itself.

Power and control over people comes from the threat of violence and willingness to use it.

 

POTUS OJ isn't smarter than the Venezuelans. He's in a stronger position backed by the US military and other agencies.

 

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I'd rather get with Mtumbe from Nigeria and try to get something going with HIM over some joloff rice and catfish soup....lol.

That's fine as long as the situation is mutually beneficial. Never lose sight of the fact that Nigerians do have a culture.

 

 

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

Obviously, I don't believe that. People are indoctrinated into religion.

They are indoctrinated into a PARTICULAR religion, but I wonder if some people aren't just naturally inclined to be RELIGIOUS in nature.
Meaning, they just need something or a set of rituals to believe in and practice to maintain their stability.

I say this because there seems to be a correlation between the decrease in religion and the rise of substance abuse in most populations.
You take away their religions and they feel the need to replace it with something.

 

 

 

 

People wouldn't need hope if life was fair.

What is your idea of "fair"?
Not Neely Fuller Jr.'s idea....lol....but yours?

In my opinion LIFE itself is fair, it's the people and conditions IN your life that often produce the problems.
 

 

 

 

 

Human greed makes life harder for the masses.

No doubt it often does.....
However on the opposite end, laziness and the desire to try to get something for nothing also makes problems for people.

Greed can be a powerful motivator.
Greed influences some people to steal and cheat and take advantage of others.
But greed also influences some people to work harder and smarter to secure all the resources they can accumulate.

 

 

 

 

 

Power and control over people comes from the threat of violence and willingness to use it.

As well as often times just being plain smarter and coming up with better ideas that many people recognize and are attracted to.

Like Ice Cube said about Eazy E....
While Suge Knight used threats of violence to control people and maintain power, Eazy used charm and the "everybody can eat" mentality to gain influence over them.
 

 

 

 

 

 

POTUS OJ isn't smarter than the Venezuelans. He's in a stronger position backed by the US military and other agencies.

No, but the United States as a nation IS smarter and more technologically advanced than Venezuela and the Venezuelans.
That's a fact.
 

 

 

 

 

That's fine as long as the situation is mutually beneficial.

Absolutely.
I don't support abusing people.
It happens...but I don't support it nor do I engage in it.

I have African friends and associates that I have helped over the years with various things and over 90% of the exchanges were of mutual benefit.
If they WERE one sided....me initially doing them a favor or them initially doing me a favor...they ALWAYS evolved into us helping eachother.

By nature most moral and intelligent people don't want to abuse or negatively take advantage of others.

[ProfD]

39 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

I say this because there seems to be a correlation between the decrease in religion and the rise of substance abuse in most populations.
You take away their religions and they feel the need to replace it with something.

There are billions of people on the planet who are non-religious and who do not abuse drugs.

 

39 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

People wouldn't need hope if life was fair.

What is your idea of "fair"?
Not Neely Fuller Jr.'s idea....lol....but yours?

In my opinion LIFE itself is fair, it's the people and conditions IN your life that often produce the problems.

We have discussed my belief that people should treat each other as they wish to be treated.

 

My idea of fair is that people do not bring hurt, harm or danger to each other in their dealings. 

 

39 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Human greed makes life harder for the masses.

No doubt it often does.....
However on the opposite end, laziness and the desire to try to get something for nothing also makes problems for people.

That can be dealt with at the  individual level. Problem people can be punished.

39 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Greed can be a powerful motivator.
Greed influences some people to steal and cheat and take advantage of others.

That's bad. It should be dealt with accordingly. 

39 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

But greed also influences some people to work harder and smarter to secure all the resources they can accumulate.

No problem as long as it does not bring hurt, harm or danger to others.

 

39 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Power and control over people comes from the threat of violence and willingness to use it.

As well as often times just being plain smarter and coming up with better ideas that many people recognize and are attracted to.

Diplomacy is a form of soft power.

 

It's not about being smarter. Being able to provide something the other party doesn't have can be powerful.

 

Just because someone can provide money, food, clothing, shelter, protection, etc., doesn't make them smarter than the recipient. Maybe more powerful.

 

 

39 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Like Ice Cube said about Eazy E....
While Suge Knight used threats of violence to control people and maintain power, Eazy used charm and the "everybody can eat" mentality to gain influence over them.

The difference between hard and soft power. Neither of them was smarter than than everybody around them.

 

If they were so smart, Eazy might not be dead and Suge wouldn't be stretched out in the penitentiary.

 

39 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

POTUS OJ isn't smarter than the Venezuelans. He's in a stronger position backed by the US military and other agencies.

No, but the United States as a nation IS smarter and more technologically advanced than Venezuela and the Venezuelans.
That's a fact.

The fact is the US is the strongest super power on the planet. Venezuela is a mosquito in comparison. 

 

Russia is stronger than Ukraine. They aren't smarter. 

 

The neighborhood bully isn't smarter than the folks being bullied. He's stronger until the victim gathers the strength and courage to fight back and win.

 

The story of David and Goliath is an illustrationof power, strength and courage.

 

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

There are billions of people on the planet who are non-religious and who do not abuse drugs.

Drug use or not, I doubt that there are BILLIONS of people on this planet who are non-religious.
I don't believe there is even a BILLION people on this planet who don't ascribe to a religion.
I'm thinking about China and Russia as I make this statement also.

Most of them don't PRACTICE their religions fundamentally and tend to be that religion in name only, but the vast majority DO belong to a religion.

 

 

 

 

We have discussed my belief that people should treat each other as they wish to be treated.

My idea of fair is that people do not bring hurt, harm or danger to each other in their dealings.

Would that be "fair" if you were dealing with somebody who wronged or hurt someone you loved?
In my opinion, you can't have fairness without JUSTICE.

 

 

 

That can be dealt with at the individual level. Problem people can be punished.

I hear (read...lol) what you're saying.
However that COULD conflict with your idea of fairness, in some situations.


 

 

 

 

 

Diplomacy is a form of soft power.

It's not about being smarter. Being able to provide something the other party doesn't have can be powerful.

Diplomacy is also a direct example of INTELLIGENCE (innate smartness).
Outside of natural Charisma....you have to be pretty smart to know how to influence or manipulate others into cooperating with you and doing what you'd like them to.
 

Fools and dumbasses generally aren't able to accomplish this....lol.
Right or wrong?

 

 

Just because someone can provide money, food, clothing, shelter, protection, etc., doesn't make them smarter than the recipient. Maybe more powerful.

 

This is true in theory.

Howevever unless those resources are inherited, consistently having enough money, food, clothing, shelter, and protection to not only sustain one's self but also provide this to others is a SIGN of high intelligence.
Because....again, unless you inherited them....you wouldn't have these benefits if you weren't smart enough to acquire and maintain them.

 

 

 

If they were so smart, Eazy might not be dead and Suge wouldn't be stretched out in the penitentiary.

A couple points to consider.........

1. Death and incarceration can happen to very smart people.
A whole lot of smart people died before 30 and a whole lot of smart people are in the Penitentiary.
One individual isn't smarter than the entire government ran penal system...lol.

Genetics, chance, fortune, as well as many other factors are often involved in people dying or being incarcerated.


2. Eazy E and Suge may not have been the smartest people in their circles but they were certainly SMARTER than most people in their circles or else people wouldn't have followed them and submitted themselves to their authority.

Do you think somebody with Down's Syndrome could have walked up into the studio and taken charge over rappers?


 

 

The fact is the US is the strongest super power on the planet. Venezuela is a mosquito in comparison.

 

Right, and how did they get that way?
One reason is having more smart people who helped to develop that power.
 

 

 

The neighborhood bully isn't smarter than the folks being bullied. He's stronger until the victim gathers the strength and courage to fight back and win.

Or a smarter person either bribes him to cut out his antics or influences other kids even STRONGER than him to find him and whoop his ass...lol.
 

 

 

The story of David and Goliath is an illustrationof power, strength and courage.

According to the Bible David was also backed by GOD to perform his feats.
Don't leave that part out....lol.
 

[ProfD]

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I don't believe there is even a BILLION people on this planet who don't ascribe to a religion.

Of course, you're entitled to that belief. 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

We have discussed my belief that people should treat each other as they wish to be treated.

My idea of fair is that people do not bring hurt, harm or danger to each other in their dealings.

Would that be "fair" if you were dealing with somebody who wronged or hurt someone you loved?
In my opinion, you can't have fairness without JUSTICE.

You're trying to move the goalposts.

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

That can be dealt with at the individual level. Problem people can be punished.

I hear (read...lol) what you're saying.
However that COULD conflict with your idea of fairness, in some situations.

It does not according to my definition of fairness. 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Diplomacy is a form of soft power.

It's not about being smarter. Being able to provide something the other party doesn't have can be powerful.

Diplomacy is also a direct example of INTELLIGENCE (innate smartness).
Outside of natural Charisma....you have to be pretty smart to know how to influence or manipulate others into cooperating with you and doing what you'd like them to.

There's no shortage of people in positions who are not very intelligent.

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Fools and dumbasses generally aren't able to accomplish this....lol.
Right or wrong?

Exhibit A...POTUS OJ. He's not intelligent by any stretch of the imagination. Yet, he's the executive of the most powerful country on the planet. 

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

This is true in theory.

Howevever unless those resources are inherited, consistently having enough money, food, clothing, shelter, and protection to not only sustain one's self but also provide this to others is a SIGN of high intelligence.

Not really. There have always been people of average intelligence who worked regular jobs and took care of their families. 

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Genetics, chance, fortune, as well as many other factors are often involved in people dying or being incarcerated.

Right. Intelligence cannot prevent it.

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

2. Eazy E and Suge may not have been the smartest people in their circles but they were certainly SMARTER than most people in their circles or else people wouldn't have followed them and submitted themselves to their authority.

Fear and laziness among other reasons will make people followers instead of leaders.

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Do you think somebody with Down's Syndrome could have walked up into the studio and taken charge over rappers?

False equivalence. That person is mentally impaired. 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

The fact is the US is the strongest super power on the planet. Venezuela is a mosquito in comparison.

 

Right, and how did they get that way?
One reason is having more smart people who helped to develop that power.

Having the most lethal military on the planet makes the USA powerful moreso tham our collective intelligence.

 

A few countries are considered intellectually superior to the USA. They don't have our firepower.

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Or a smarter person either bribes him to cut out his antics or influences other kids even STRONGER than him to find him and whoop his ass...lol.

Brains can be used to triumph over brawn.

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

The story of David and Goliath is an illustrationof power, strength and courage.

According to the Bible David was also backed by GOD to perform his feats.
Don't leave that part out....lol.

Of course, the scholars that wrote the Bible would give the sky fairy credit as a central figure in the book.