Has Universal income gotten closer to being needed

[Pioneer1]

On 1/26/2026 at 4:35 PM, richardmurray said:

@Pioneer1

 

Stronghold:) White people have the only stronghold in New York City, now to the latino populaces.well... based on the map, dominicans are the base of the latino populace in new york city/new york state. but, your assessment to immigrants or Black DOSers is false , at least in NYC. 

 

First, Black DOSers in NYC are merely tired. You suggest Black DOSers are frightened for the identity of the usa being taken over by a horde. I oppose that. At least in NYC it is simpler. Black DOSers have spent the entire jim crow era, 1865 to 1980 supporting what the USA can become. When white people burned black women alive, hung black children, made black people sick. Most Black DOSers in the Jim Crow era ate the crow, followed the white law, acted civil and tried to have happy lives. Led by Black women in the DOSers , black people spent over one hundred years setting the table up for all peoples to be part of the usa. But black dosers are tired now. One populace can't support the idea of the usa becoming a country for the human individual forever. And Black DOSers suffered. All actions have prosequence plus consequence. Meaning all actions produce negativity plus positivity . The majority of Black DOSers supporting the idea of what the USA can be, prosequence/positive after effects was a country of civility. White people in the entire jim crow era were the most uncivil, most criminal people on earth, but Black people, Black DOSers in majority, took all the abuse, from murder to spitting to bad contracts, and fought to be happy to live in peace, aside the abusers, that led to a country where people all throughout humanity were amazed at, and made the myth that if you can come to the usa and eat the crow, you can be happy. The consequence/negative after effects was the Black DOS populace never emphasized itself. Black DOSers in majority, not all,  chose, for the sake of peaceful integration to all humanity, to place our own unique heritage in the usa second to the potential of a usa culture to be first. So we didn't emphasize our languages, our spirituality, our towns and cities. The minorities in our populace that wanted to leave or wanted to fight, the majority in our populace chided or stymied or contained or sidelined. Not out of hate or competition but because what the majority wanted was to get through Jim Crow , outlast white abuse, to find a USA changed. Leaving the usa or feuding with whites would destroy the potential usa to be that the majority of black DOSErs in the jim crow era , 1865 to 1980, fought for. So...here we are. Black DOSers held up the idea of what the USA can be, but are tired now. A well earned rest.It is time for others to continue that battle. IT is time for the immigrant populace to fight for the potential of what the usa will be. 

 

Second, From 1980 to 2026, two generations, white people have slowly moved away from DOSers as a main threat and now have moved to the modern immigrant, a multiphenotypical/multilingual/multireligious/multicultural populace of people with one thing in common, they came to the USA for their financial betterment and like the idea of being in a country where they can be about themselves. How many dominicans go to the dominican republic? if you look at the numbers, each generation of immigrants has less and less connection to the land their forebears came from willingly. Many people with dominican or puerto rican or mexican lineage  in NYC don't speak spanish, have never left the USA. This is their home in their own mind. The chinese populace in NYC is older than the USA. The chinese populace in NYC was from New Amsterdam. The chinese populace in NYC isn't foreign and temporally has greater claim to the USA than the populations of the midwest and west coast. 

 

Do some Black DOSers have an instinct against modern immigrants? yes. Some Black DOSers opposed Marcu Garvey who came from the caribbean. Some Black DOSers disliked modern black immigrant children from the continent for being muslim or not having European or judeo-christian names. But I think most Black DOSers are simply tired of being the backbone , the engine for the USA to stay on the path to becoming a government for the human individual. It is time for the immigrant populace to take a leading role. Will violence occur? yes. the usa was born from violence between the immigrant and the current, starting with the First peoples, commonly called Native Americans and the first immigrants, completely unwanted or unwelcomed who came anyway, white europeans. 

But, the existence of violence doesn't mean the future will be violent forever. Peace will grow when tiny, as war always grows when tiny. 

 

In Amendment

One of my favorite white literatures is Ivanhoe from walter scott. the character of wambaugh is brilliant to me. But beyond that and other artistic reasons, a historical reason exists as well. Scott wanted to make , using history, true history, a historical fiction of england. The idea being, who is english, and Ivanhoe is about how, the Saxons/Normans/Jews/Picts/... romans/druids all had a role in making england. The english aren't ancestral to the island commonly called england. The english is the name of the mulatto group derived from all of those peoples over a long time. In the same way, the usa is facing a similar reality, like its parent england. 

Beyond the fact that Lyndon B Johnson let in the populace some consider a horde with poor thinking or planning

Immigration Act speech 
https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2785&type=status
Kerner Commission 
https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2685&type=status

The reality is, the modern immigrant populace is here in the usa and is a majority, not based on phenotype or religion or geographic ancestry but on the desire to have their best individual life in a safe environment, in NYC they are already mating with each other in ways maybe the rest of USA doesn't see yet. But, I have seen mexican-chinese or muslim-jews , the kind of mixing going on in NYC proves to me that in twenty to forty years a population will exist in the usa that isn't chained to the old racial lines, for better or for worse, and trying to push them out , when they have no where to go, will only exacerbate their growth. 

 

The funny thing is, I find the immigrant populace is willing to embrace the imperialism of the usa more honestly than the old white or Black DOSers. I think for modern immigrants the usa should embrace its imperial truth, which whites have never stopped trying to deny while Black DOSers have always prayed wouldn't happen and tried to preach away. 

 

I have a better question, why didn't elected black officials make the case? 

Charlie rangel was head of the ways and means, a senior donkey, many acts fail to become law in the congress, no harm is trying every year. How many times did black elected officials try to get legislation specifically for blacks passed?

 

Bills have failed with zero votes, even from the legislator who sent the bill to the floor 

H.R. 3989 (105th): User Fee Act of 1998 https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/105-1998/h207

H.R. 3085 (106th): Discretionary Spending Offsets Act for Fiscal Year 2000. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/106-1999/h511

 

I checked reparations to see what has happened and I found the following

https://www.govtrack.us/search?q=reparations

https://www.congress.gov/search?q=%7B%22congress%22%3A%5B%22119%22%5D%2C%22source%22%3A%5B%22legislation%22%5D%2C%22search%22%3A%22reparations%22%7D&pageSort=latestAction%3Aasc

 

then I made a better search, "reparations black african american" all congresses; from oldest

https://www.congress.gov/search?q=%7B%22source%22%3A%22all%22%2C%22congress%22%3A%22all%22%2C%22search%22%3A%22reparation+black+african+american%22%7D&pageSort=dateOfIntroduction%3Aasc

then i removed all but legislation/laws 

https://www.congress.gov/search?pageSort=dateOfIntroduction%3Aasc&q=%7B%22source%22%3A%5B%22legislation%22%5D%2C%22congress%22%3A%22all%22%2C%22search%22%3A%22reparation+black+african+american%22%7D

then i searched "reparations black african american" all congresses; from oldest

https://www.congress.gov/search?q=%7B%22congress%22%3A%22all%22%2C%22source%22%3A%5B%22legislation%22%5D%2C%22search%22%3A%22reparations+black+african+american%22%7D&pageSort=dateOfIntroduction%3Aasc

and finally , realizing the returns weren't applicable i tried "jim crow reparations" ; all congresses; oldest to youngest

https://www.congress.gov/search?q=%7B%22source%22%3A%5B%22legislation%22%5D%2C%22congress%22%3A%22all%22%2C%22search%22%3A%22jim+crow+reparations%22%7D&pageSort=dateOfIntroduction%3Aasc

then I just placed "jim crow" and finally a correct return of results across the history of the congress

https://www.congress.gov/search?q=%7B%22congress%22%3A%22all%22%2C%22source%22%3A%22all%22%2C%22search%22%3A%22%5C%22jim+crow%5C%22%22%7D&pageSort=dateOfIntroduction%3Aasc

 

the oldest record from one thousand nine hundred and twenty two is the following from 1884

December 17, 1884 Vol. 16, Part 1 — Bound Edition

https://www.congress.gov/bound-congressional-record/1884/12/17/16/house-section/article/313-324?q={"search"%3A"\"jim+crow\""}&s=3&r=1

referring to then to be president grover cleveland not abandoning the negro in the south to "Jim Crow" cars on the trains. 

the earliest law was a joint resolution in 1995 for abernathy, out of 804 in the entire history of the congress

https://www.congress.gov/bill/104th-congress/house-joint-resolution/183?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%22%5C%22jim+crow%5C%22%22%7D&s=2&r=1

the oldest report out of 31 

https://www.congress.gov/search?pageSort=numberAsc&q=%7B%22congress%22%3A%22all%22%2C%22source%22%3A%5B%22comreports%22%5D%2C%22search%22%3A%22%5C%22jim+crow%5C%22%22%7D

concerned aging

https://www.congress.gov/committee-report/105th-congress/senate-report/36/2?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%22%5C%22jim+crow%5C%22%22%7D&s=5&r=1

 

First this confirms my point that the Jim crow era was from 1865 to 1980. as from the late 1980s onward, the rainbow era was in swing. now the whites allowed blacks, through nonviolent action, to have a say. 

But second, Jim Crow is a cmmonly known phrase in the usa and yet, look how late it is mentioned or impotently mentioned , even in the discourse of the congress. so black elected officials had to do better. Even if the bills went nowhere, they had to push more of them onto the floor. this connects to our discourse concerning legal action in the jim crow era. Based on white violence, black people needed far more legal representation. For every emmit till, there were a hundred or a thousand unnamed, un newspapered, black children harmed by whites. 

 

 

 

@Troy

 

nice turn of phrase. yeah, and the truth is, fucking, has a huge role in this. As I mentioned to Pioneer about england,

https://aalbc.com/tc/events/event/145-lucy-worsley-on-william-the-conqueror-janaury-18th-2025-%C2%A0/

modern england was born from the bedchamber of saxon women and norman men. In the same way, Latin America was born from the bedchamber of Indios/firstpeoples/native american women or Black[african or indios women] and white european men. The immigrant groups have already started the mating process, it will only grow. Most white people in the usa today have german ancestry but most talk about being swedish/italian/french or other. so mixing happens.  and mixing is what really leads to one peoples. Many jews in the usa didn't marry jews. this is part of the whole reform jewish community, and is why the orthodox jewish community opposes them in part. the reform jewish community doesn't demand a jew marry a jew which is part of orthodoxy/rules in the jewish religion. But that mixing of white jews with other white people, which white jews did a lot in europe as well, led to a lessening of friction between white peoples, the judeo christian union in the usa. The modern immigrant populace is creating an more wider new group with its intra and extra minglings. It is just a matter of time now. I see it in NYC alot already, but NYC has every flag in the world represented in it, it will take time for the rest of the usa to catch up but it will. My two favorite examples is when a black women was getting something to eat from a black owned business and she said I am from trinidad but my some is american, it was during juneteenth and we all giggled. Her son is half DOSer. And when a boy was getting something to eat, a man was speaking to him in a language from the continent... africa... and the boy didn't react. The guy kept trying cause he knows the boy but the boy only reacted when he said "hey". the boy only knows english and he is one generation removed. so... the center of the usa will be different . I don't know the exact countdown but the clock is ticking. I don't know the cultural designs but it is being formed. 

 

This is why the people of Nippon have always resisted immigration. yes, they do it historically, as they don't like outsiders and have a very tribal nature in themselves. But it has another function. when you embrace outsiders you have to change eventually. the myth that outsiders can come into any place and not force change in time is a myth, a lie really. Ramen noodles is chinese. That is the power of immigration. The japanese know this through their own history so prefer immigration to be as slow as possible, because they comprehend high speed immigration always speeds up high speed resetting of any country to refind a center between the current and the immigrant. 

The whites from europe before the usa was founded, started a cycle of immigration onto the First Peoples of the American Continents lands, never ending, constant, but the white power of 1492 isn't present today. White power exists but not the same like 1492 and the rest is history. The white enslavers or their descendents gambled their power could remain no matter how many people came in from anywhere, they were wrong. 

 

financially rich whites who are less concerned about phenotype over money, sold to poor whites the idea that they could hurt blacks by bringing in lights/mullatoes/arabs//whites asians to accept wages less than black folk and it worked. alongside the ussr as a cold war rival. but when the ussr fell all of a sudden the usa had to do something with immigration and the fiscally wealthy whites didn't want to undo the global cheap labor market they created in the war against the USSR so they maintained the system and the fiscal poor whites got angry and that split between both led to Schrumpf. 

 

Lol....so you're STILL not going to tell me what you do for a living, huh?

You're doing SOMETHING to keep that mind of yours occupied, lol.