Chevdove Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 52 minutes ago, ProfD said: Otherwise, these topics do make for great discussion/debate. Carry on. Okay. I agree to a point because humans did record some aspects of it, but the earth is so old and much older than human when they began to record, I understand what you are saying! Thank you! The Biblical script does pinpoint a date and time to be within a ten year time span when the earth did split; according to the Bible. However, in order to confirm, most scholars know that you need at least two or three forms of references to confirm facts. And so, other than the Biblical script, there would be the ancient Sumerians, Elamites, Egyptians and Chinese that probably recorded something, but this is difficult to obtain today!!! The lifespan of Peleg, the son of Shem is specific. His death and the time that is given when Noah died specifically reveals that the Biblical records puts the time that earth split to be within a ten year time span from the death of Noah and the death of Peleg. yes, the Biblical script is that exact. Biblical timelines are based on astronomy and that is an exact science. The western world governments can lie but they cannot lie against astronomy and how are planets are confirmed to move around the sun. I cannot remember the exact date, because, I lost my notes and need to rely on the exact timelines, but the time span recorded is between the death of Noah and the death of Peleg. And that was a ten year gap. The history of the Greek Isles is also a major source as well, to regard on this subject. The western world government reset up of their leagues after the Crusades if part of the confusion, because they deliberately debauched ancient records. They changed dates and times. They caused a lot of Greek history to be regarded as Greek mythology. There records about 'the Lost City of Atlantis' is just one example of their deliberate attempt to change historical facts.
frankster Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 3 hours ago, Chevdove said: 1. The references I provided are from two top rated university reports; experts and they absolutely are refuting the western reports of the earth splitting millions of years ago. They are also absolutely refuting the western world reports about the dates of human presence in the world. The University of Berkeley and the University of Arizona are top ranking worldwide and so, these scientific scholars are refuting your report by the National Geographic society and their old, prepared and outdated report by the western world government. I obviously missed it....I never saw anything referencing the the continental splitting or when they split... So.... Please quote and highlight exact words where they are refuting the "Continental drift" of the break up of the One Land mas called Pangea? 3 hours ago, Chevdove said: 2. The references I provided about the mound constructions, etc. are absolute references in that the Pangaea split could not have occurred until after 5000 years ago. Why Not? Why it could not happen after the break up after the super continent.....why not? 3 hours ago, Chevdove said: Pangaea or, the one super earth mass remained until very, very recent and so, the western reports are a complete lie. The dates of the mound constructions did not even occur until the 3000s B.C.!!! This means that the earth was one mass until after this time period!!! The date of the mound construction does not mean....that the continetal split happen after 3 hours ago, Chevdove said: You just simply cannot understand my references. No......I understand full well what those references were saying It just is not relevant nor have you shown why it should be considered relavant. 3 hours ago, Chevdove said: @frankster Read up on it yourself. Read about the co nstructions of the Great Steppe Pyramid, and the mound civilizations in the ancient Americas and ancient China, etc. It was the same technology!!! The information could NOT have occurred and be transferred if the earth had already split into continents. I have and see no reason why one excludes the other 3 hours ago, Chevdove said: I am giving you references with dates and times!!! Misapplied dates and times of other unassociated info or happenings. 3 hours ago, Chevdove said: 3. Boats were not used 8000 years ago or 50,000 years ago, that is ridiculous. No proof of that at all. Seneferu's famous boat constructed, is a well documented report that reveals the technology of boat constructions became unique at that time period. Of course boats were being used 8000yrs ago....do your research. Why should I provide further proof while you have not provided any relevant proof 3 hours ago, Chevdove said: 4. The continental drift has nothing to do with the abrupt time the earth split into continents. When the earth split it was abrupt and violent. It did NOT happen over a long period of time. It was abrupt. And also, it happened after the great deluge. Continental Drift explains one of the factors that resulted in how the continents came to be 3 hours ago, Chevdove said: The Great World Flood occurred initially, and then the earth split long after that time period. According to the Bible prophets, the Great World Flood happened in the 2300s B.C. on April 17. And the earth did not split until long after that time period. As the ancient Egyptian records also confirm, the Old Pyramid Age ended abruptly and the material used to construct the Giza pyramids ended abruptly. The new mud brick technology began to be used to construct pyramids right after that time period and this is confirmed world wide, in that the ancient mound civilization ended abruptly AFTER THE EARTH SPLIT!!! The mud-brick technology became a new form of construction and this did not happen in the far reaches of the world for ages until humans began to sail with new boat technology and the technology of sails confirm this time period as well. 3 hours ago, Chevdove said: 5. "I need not try again You ask for script and I provided ancient script....they are originals real and authentic. If your christian or western bias precludes you from accepting them as real knowledge....Whether or not you accept those script is up to you. Never the less they align with current understanding of continental drift" No. It's not my christian or western bias that stops me from accepting lies as real knowledge, again, it's my formal education that refutes your statement about Sanskrit. Again, Sanskrit did not occur until after the Sumerians developed their civilization in Mesopotamia. I was the only student to achieve the highest scores in both of the college classes I took in college that discussed this topic. One class was 'Humanities' and another class was 'Western Civilization' and I think another class was 'Art Appreciation'. Anyway, Sanskrit only addresses history that revolves around India and Hinduism but other languages such as Cuneiform and Biblical script are more advanced because they address civilizations all over the world and other religions such as Buddhism that began in India late in time, and etc. Also, the subcontinent of India, actually did not even happen until after the first time the earth spit!!! In fact, the subcontinent of India was part of Africa for a long time. This is another well hidden occurrence that has become a confusion due to the lies that this western world has published to hide their movements against Black people of African descent. You ask for an ancient script regarding the splitting up of the super continent.....That is ancient script writing about it The script is ancient and it is relevant. 3 hours ago, Chevdove said: 6. I am sluggish, and I apologize. I hope to apply myself to sharing more about the cave drawings to add to this topic of how the western world has published false reports about the actual time the earth split in their quest to refute the Bible. However, again, one of the most obvious proofs that the earth did not split until very recent would be [1] the ancient mound civilizations, [2] The Old Pyramid Age, and [3] the technology of ancient boats and ships that changed abruptly due to the need for sails to navigate waterways other than the rivers and seas. But like the other references, the cave drawings also are a major way to reveal the false reports about the earth splitting millions of years ago. Long after this time period of 2 million years, cave drawings occurred and the technology used reveals that humans transferred techniques across land mass. One example would the red ochre used to make some cave drawings in far reaching pats of the world. Yes I am still waiting on those cave paintings.... 3 hours ago, Chevdove said: Here is one reference from the Biblical script: [17]The sons of Shem; ... [19] And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of the one was Peleg; because in his days the earth was divided: and his brother's name was Joktan. 1 CHRONICLE 1: 17- 19. Cool........your strongest argument yet. Though I tend to think of that one resulting from the flood.... 3 hours ago, Chevdove said: ***** My Note; the origin of the word 'Archipelago' is from the son of Shem named Peleg. So, prior to this time period, there were absolutely no, islands; no archipelagos. The history of the Greek Isles did not happen until after this time period. _________________________________________ An archipelago is an area that contains a chain or group of islands scattered in lakes, rivers, or the ocean.Jun 16, 2024 https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/archipelago.html#:~:text=An archipelago is an area,%2C rivers%2C or the ocean. Malay Archipelago, largest group of islands in the world, consisting of the more than 17,000 islands of Indonesia and the approximately 7,000 islands of the Philippines. The regional name “East Indies” is sometimes used as a synonym for the archipelago. https://www.britannica.com/place/Malay-Archipelago No Argument...
Chevdove Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 1 hour ago, frankster said: Of course boats were being used 8000yrs ago....do your research. Why should I provide further proof while you have not provided any relevant proof No I don't see any thing in history that dates boats that long ago with sails, though, and that would be a key point. Don't you think? 1 hour ago, frankster said: Cool........your strongest argument yet. Though I tend to think of that one resulting from the flood.... Ancient script does not say that, but it is an interesting thought! The date of the flood was exactly 2356 B.C., April 17 and then, the first time the earth split resulting in Archipelagos was a couple hundreds of years later. So, I can see one affecting the other. hmh. Interesting point!
frankster Posted Thursday at 09:53 PM Report Posted Thursday at 09:53 PM On 3/11/2026 at 5:18 PM, Chevdove said: No I don't see any thing in history that dates boats that long ago with sails, though, and that would be a key point. Don't you think? I said nothing about sails and you said nothing about sails .... You said boats did not exist then. It then is now evident that you now know that boats existed then.....Pesse and Dufuna Anyways one does not need boats with sails to get from the Old World to the New World The first Know use of sails is 6000 yrs ago still before your timeline On 3/11/2026 at 5:18 PM, Chevdove said: Ancient script does not say that, but it is an interesting thought! Which ancient script? The one I posted and link does say so you just have to read the full link. On 3/11/2026 at 5:18 PM, Chevdove said: The date of the flood was exactly 2356 B.C., April 17 and then, Yes so says bible Literalist On 3/11/2026 at 5:18 PM, Chevdove said: the first time the earth split resulting in Archipelagos was a couple hundreds of years later. This Timeline is religious scientism I do not agree with this timelime....Neither does known and accept science On 3/11/2026 at 5:18 PM, Chevdove said: So, I can see one affecting the other. hmh. Interesting point! True.... It more fits with the earth being divided up amongst differing peoples....As a result of Babel So if Peleg lives around the Time of babel....that then gives me doubt as to it being about the continents. Nevertheless it is a graet link.
frankster Posted Friday at 08:13 AM Report Posted Friday at 08:13 AM On 2/28/2026 at 7:42 PM, Pioneer1 said: frankster I do not know exactly how Nature compensate for breaking obligations.....its usually along already existing fault lines. It should not be seen as punishment...but away to induce correction/adjustment - for doing something damaging. For example if you put your bare hand in a fire knowing or unknowingly....it will cause pain - is that pain punishment? I would say no. A punishment is the DELIBERATE affliction in response to an action. The pain from a fire is automatic, not necessarily deliberate. Hence the reason I said it is not to be seen as punishment....you call it automatic On 2/28/2026 at 7:42 PM, Pioneer1 said: That's the purpose of Spirituality Herbalism and Medicine....One of many means to reconcile or pacify the discomfort experience. Would it work in the case of someone whom you said "broke the contract" they made and is being "corrected" by an affliction? It all depends on the situation....medical intervention does work - but sometimes it fails On 2/28/2026 at 7:42 PM, Pioneer1 said: Most Illness are caused by Ignorance.....Wrong Action or Wrong Mental Attitude - In other Words the EightFold Path Not sure about the EightFold Path, but I agree that most illnesses are caused by ignorance. The Eightfold path is what Siddhartha Guatama discovered and taught as a way to escape suffering On 2/28/2026 at 7:42 PM, Pioneer1 said: I meant it.....The article did not mentioned Omar Al Bashir directly.... It did mention s themselves white - More likely to call themselves Arabs Whatever they call themselves, they see themselves as different than the Blacks of the south. Yes they do....but they not what you and I would call white On 2/28/2026 at 7:42 PM, Pioneer1 said: I used Bashir as an example as I did before when I mentioned My Sister being classified differently Racially in USA SouthAfrica and Ghana. Race is a social convention....so each society has its own specific definition and meaning of what qualifies as a criterion for Race Ok. That's true. cool On 2/28/2026 at 7:42 PM, Pioneer1 said: Outside of Western influence....they would most likely be considered different Ethnicities or Nationalities If not for The Western Ideology Races....The Idea of Race would most likely not come into their Minds of Thoughts - you would just be seen as a Foreigner/Outsider The whole Concept of Race as we Know is a Western Ideology Without the Western concept of the Internet most people around the world wouldn't think of facebook or x or other forms of social media that they currently accept and engage in....lol. True....without The African invention of Mathematics their would be no internet for facebook or X On 2/28/2026 at 7:42 PM, Pioneer1 said: Who came up with the concept is less relevant than the fact that it currently exists and is heavily in use. You ask the question.....I am merely answering it On 2/28/2026 at 7:42 PM, Pioneer1 said: They do not see differences as racial........They do not interpret phenotypic differences as Racial - but Ethnic Perhaps those who are ignorant of the term "race" or haven't been properly educated on the difference between ethnicity and race, do. Proper education of a subject makes a difference. You ask a question that posits a given On 2/21/2026 at 3:48 PM, Pioneer1 said: Do those who DO NOT accept Western European racial definitions consider Eskimos and Pakistanis of the same race? If they do not accept race how can they see them as the same or different race? On 2/28/2026 at 7:42 PM, Pioneer1 said: Many people around the world don't consider Catholics Christian....out of ignorance. It depends on your definition of what a christian is.... On 2/28/2026 at 7:42 PM, Pioneer1 said: Go to Los Angeles and most people who live in the area will argue with you that Watts is not part of South Central...out of ignorance. I have no idea why or why not On 2/28/2026 at 7:42 PM, Pioneer1 said: Most people will argue that Haitians aren't Latinos....out of ignorance. To some people to be latino is to speak Spanish and or belong to or descendant of a spanish speaking people or country. On 2/28/2026 at 7:42 PM, Pioneer1 said: Truth isn't determined by the ignorant misunderstandings of an uneducated population. cool On 2/28/2026 at 7:42 PM, Pioneer1 said: You are still considering race - That's the problem you are having......it seems. It may SEEM that way, but the truth is....the problem I'm having is trying to get YOU to understand the concept of race. I understand the concept of race....you do not understand the limitations of that concept On 2/28/2026 at 7:42 PM, Pioneer1 said: I'm cool. The concept of race is cool. YOUR UNDERSTANDING of it is a little fuzzy....lol. I even understand your misunderstanding of the concept of race... My concept of race is simply....It is primarily a social concept that when applied is different depending on Time and Place. It is not universally the same Everywhere or in Everytime.... One maybe consider white or non white depending on time and place On 2/28/2026 at 7:42 PM, Pioneer1 said: Arabs and Black are Ethnicities.....You have many blacks that are Arabs and many Arabs that are black In the Western ethnic and racial categorization systems: Arab is an ethnicity and Black is a race Yes On 2/28/2026 at 7:42 PM, Pioneer1 said: The idea of them being different races is.....Mostly create by and for Western media - A form of Cultural Imperialism Whatever it is, you need to properly understand it if you want to make sense of what's going on. Yes On 2/28/2026 at 7:42 PM, Pioneer1 said: You said the following : "only has reality" is still REALITY none the less. Reality is Reality. If it's in Existence....it's Reality. Doesn't matter WHERE in Reality it is....if it Exists....it's Reality." ___________________________________________ ....and stand by what I said. And you do not see that as you making All realities one and the same? On 2/28/2026 at 7:42 PM, Pioneer1 said: Here you are doing the same thing you just did with "realities" What? Make sense of it? Making race and ethnicity the same On 2/28/2026 at 7:42 PM, Pioneer1 said: ......now you doing it with race and ethnicity I've BEEN doing it...lol...if you're talking about making sense. Conflating..... On 2/28/2026 at 7:42 PM, Pioneer1 said: How do you define Race vis a vis/vs Ethnicity? In a nutshell: Race is a category based on phenotype Ethnicity is a category based on culture and sometimes nationality So African Albinos are what race?
Chevdove Posted Friday at 01:31 PM Report Posted Friday at 01:31 PM 15 hours ago, frankster said: said nothing about sails and you said nothing about sails .... You said boats did not exist then. It then is now evident that you now know that boats existed then.....Pesse and Dufuna Anyways one does not need boats with sails to get from the Old World to the New World The first Know use of sails is 6000 yrs ago still before your timeline I have been referencing the use of sails early, but you've been overlooking it because you may not understand the obvious significance in sail technology as proof the earth did not split until very recent in the history of this planet. 15 hours ago, frankster said: Nevertheless it is a graet link Thank you. 15 hours ago, frankster said: This Timeline is religious scientism I do not agree with this timelime....Neither does known and accept science All timelines can be confirmed due to astronomy. It does not matter what anyone believes when it comes to astronomy and the dating of historical events. The Biblical timeline is exact and confirms ancient Egyptian records, ancient Greek records, ancient Chinese records, etc. All mound civilizations are dated to begin in the 3000s B.C. The western world governments changed dates and times around the set up of their Colonial empire and today, this is easy to recognize due to such things as the printing press.
Pioneer1 Posted Saturday at 05:49 PM Author Report Posted Saturday at 05:49 PM frankster It all depends on the situation....medical intervention does work - but sometimes it fails If the situation is indeed Divinely ordained then it was seem as if medical intervention would be futile. If indeed, it IS indeed Divinely ordained. Some people said that Blackness was a "curse" that was "Divinely ordained" but having sex with White people produced children with lighter skin. Simply science over ruled what was thought of as a Divine ordination. The Eightfold path is what Siddhartha Guatama discovered and taught as a way to escape suffering Did it work for him? Did it work for others who followed it? There are a lot of Buddhists in Asia. I wonder how many of them are suffering. Yes they do....but they not what you and I would call white Again, they STILL don't see themselves as the same as the Blacks...regardless as to what other race they seem themselves as, lol. True....without The African invention of Mathematics their would be no internet for facebook or X I'm not sure of any race of human being "invented" Mathematics. I think this was Universal and existed before the population of the planet. If they do not accept race how can they see them as the same or different race? My question wasn't referring to those who didn't accept the concept of race PERIOD; it was referring to those who didn't accept the WESTERN EUROPEAN concept of race. It depends on your definition of what a christian is.... By any logical definition of Christian, Catholics should be considered Christian. I have no idea why or why not Lol...I told you why. Ignorance To some people to be latino is to speak Spanish and or belong to or descendant of a spanish speaking people or country. True. Those people are ignorant of the fact. I understand the concept of race....you do not understand the limitations of that concept I understand the limitations of the concept and the irrelevance OF those limitations when dealing with the subject matter itself. If I live in America and am focused on American politics....why should I concern myself with the limits of the U.S. border or what the Beings on Mars or Jupiter identify as? I even understand your misunderstanding of the concept of race... My concept of race is simply....It is primarily a social concept that when applied is different depending on Time and Place. It is not universally the same Everywhere or in Everytime.... One maybe consider white or non white depending on time and place This is correct. And there would be no problem if this were your ONLY understanding of race. But when you say this, then turn around and say there is only ONE race...this shows confusion on your part. Cognative Dissonance. Making race and ethnicity the same They CAN be, depending on how race is defined in a particular society. So African Albinos are what race? Depends on what ethnic group or society that Albino is in.
frankster Posted Saturday at 06:05 PM Report Posted Saturday at 06:05 PM On 3/13/2026 at 9:31 AM, Chevdove said: I have been referencing the use of sails early, but you've been overlooking it because you may not understand the obvious significance in sail technology as proof the earth did not split until very recent in the history of this planet. What is important is that boats have been around and in use over 8000 yrs ago On 3/13/2026 at 9:31 AM, Chevdove said: Thank you. your are welcome.. On 3/13/2026 at 9:31 AM, Chevdove said: All timelines can be confirmed due to astronomy. It does not matter what anyone believes when it comes to astronomy and the dating of historical events. I agree... On 3/13/2026 at 9:31 AM, Chevdove said: The Biblical timeline is exact and confirms ancient Egyptian records, ancient Greek records, ancient Chinese records, etc. All mound civilizations are dated to begin in the 3000s B.C. We now know that boats were around long before that date... On 3/13/2026 at 9:31 AM, Chevdove said: The western world governments changed dates and times around the set up of their Colonial empire and today, this is easy to recognize due to such things as the printing press. True...
frankster Posted Saturday at 07:13 PM Report Posted Saturday at 07:13 PM 16 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: frankster It all depends on the situation....medical intervention does work - but sometimes it fails If the situation is indeed Divinely ordained then it was seem as if medical intervention would be futile. If indeed, it IS indeed Divinely ordained. Not if you understand that Divinity and Nature are One 16 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: Some people said that Blackness was a "curse" that was "Divinely ordained" but having sex with White people produced children with lighter skin. Simply science over ruled what was thought of as a Divine ordination. Nature is God All things are a part of Nature 16 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: The Eightfold path is what Siddhartha Guatama discovered and taught as a way to escape suffering Did it work for him? From all reports it did 16 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: Did it work for others who followed it? For some 16 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: There are a lot of Buddhists in Asia. I wonder how many of them are suffering. no idea 16 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: Yes they do....but they not what you and I would call white Again, they STILL don't see themselves as the same as the Blacks...regardless as to what other race they seem themselves as, lol. True they do not see themselves as Animist or Christians black Africans... They consider themselves Arabs Muslims... But to the western racist eye or in your situation racialized eyes...they are Black Africans regardless of religious 16 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: True....without The African invention of Mathematics their would be no internet for facebook or X I'm not sure of any race of human being "invented" Mathematics. I think this was Universal and existed before the population of the planet. I am sure 16 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: If they do not accept race how can they see them as the same or different race? My question wasn't referring to those who didn't accept the concept of race PERIOD; it was referring to those who didn't accept the WESTERN EUROPEAN concept of race. The Western European concept of race is the concept of race period.... 16 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: t depends on your definition of what a christian is.... By any logical definition of Christian, Catholics should be considered Christian. Some christians do not practice idol worship or the worship of Mary or the concept of purgatory...that is unchristian 16 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: I have no idea why or why not Lol...I told you why. Ignorance whose ignorance...there or yours? 16 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: To some people to be latino is to speak Spanish and or belong to or descendant of a spanish speaking people or country. True. Those people are ignorant of the fact. Maybe....they are going by older rules of Ethnicity and not Conquest 16 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: I understand the concept of race....you do not understand the limitations of that concept I understand the limitations of the concept and the irrelevance OF those limitations when dealing with the subject matter itself. Why are the limitations irrelevance? 16 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: If I live in America and am focused on American politics....why should I concern myself with the limits of the U.S. border or what the Beings on Mars or Jupiter identify as? You do not have to.. 16 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: I even understand your misunderstanding of the concept of race... My concept of race is simply....It is primarily a social concept that when applied is different depending on Time and Place. It is not universally the same Everywhere or in Everytime.... One maybe consider white or non white depending on time and place This is correct. And there would be no problem if this were your ONLY understanding of race. But when you say this, then turn around and say there is only ONE race...this shows confusion on your part. Cognative Dissonance. Yes the human race......all others are social conventions or constructs 16 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: Making race and ethnicity the same They CAN be, depending on how race is defined in a particular society. No..... they cannot. 16 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: So African Albinos are what race? Depends on what ethnic group or society that Albino is in. To you in your mind what is that woman.....?
Pioneer1 Posted Saturday at 07:50 PM Author Report Posted Saturday at 07:50 PM frankster Not if you understand that Divinity and Nature are One In order for me or anybody else to understand it, it must first be TRUE. You CAN'T understand how a rabbit and a celery stalk can be the same, because it's not true in the first place....lol. Nature is God All things are a part of Nature Obviously I don't believe either statement is true. GOD is perfect; however nature produces deformities and imperfections. And if all things are part of nature, you wouldn't have the term "supernatural". For some Interesting. Perhaps we need to do a mass experiment to see if IT actually works or were the ones you claim it worked for actually were doing something else and THAT was what worked. Or see if it actually DIDN'T work for them as you claim. But if it did work and it does work, then it's something we need to take seriously. Who wouldn't want a guaranteed way to end suffering? True they do not see themselves as Animist or Christians black Africans... They consider themselves Arabs Muslims... But to the western racist eye or in your situation racialized eyes...they are Black Africans regardless of religious Those who call themselves Arab Muslims generally DO NOT see themselves as Black Africans. They see themselves as RACIALLY different. I am sure Do you believe that the Universe, or atleast our Solar system...was created based on mathematics? The Western European concept of race is the concept of race period.... By this statement, are you suggesting that this is the ONLY concept of race? Some christians do not practice idol worship or the worship of Mary or the concept of purgatory...that is unchristian Lol...some Christians barely even practice CHRISTIANITY...let alone the various forms of it. The Baptist or Lutheran criticizes the Catholic for their statues of Mary while they have pictures of Jesus in their churches and crosses around their necks, lol. My understanding (and perhaps I'm wrong) of what it means to be a Christian is confessing and believing that Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior. Every other belief or ritual is secondary. whose ignorance...there or yours? Based on the people I've talked to who almost never looked at a map of their own city and neighborhoods....theirs. One time when I was in Los Angeles..... I took a brother around the block and pointed up at a street sign that said Central Av S. I asked him what does that sign say. He said exactly "Central Av S" I said that "S" is short for SOUTH and the "av" is short for AVENUE. I explained to him how his neighborhood (Watts) was indeed part of the South Central region of Los Angeles. Since then that region has been changed to "South Los Angeles". Why are the limitations irrelevance? Because if we are talking about a certain subject in a certain region, we don't necessarily need to know how others OUTSIDE of that region feel about it or see it. It helps, but it's not totally necessary. No..... they cannot. Apparently you don't understand the concept of race as well as you THINK and CLAIM you do...lol. To you in your mind what is that woman.....? Ok, that makes it easier. To me....racially speaking...she is a White woman. A Caucasian woman.
Chevdove Posted Sunday at 11:15 AM Report Posted Sunday at 11:15 AM 17 hours ago, frankster said: We now know that boats were around long before that date... You will find no proof of that 17 hours ago, frankster said: What is important is that boats have been around and in use over 8000 yrs ago no proof Because this American government formed on the basis of enslaving millions of little African children and then lying, we must prove certain ancient histories with confirmations. There is no proof of boats that could sail across the oceans 8000 years ago.
frankster Posted Monday at 03:08 AM Report Posted Monday at 03:08 AM On 3/14/2026 at 3:50 PM, Pioneer1 said: frankster Not if you understand that Divinity and Nature are One In order for me or anybody else to understand it, it must first be TRUE. You CAN'T understand how a rabbit and a celery stalk can be the same, because it's not true in the first place....lol. Are they both a part of Nature? Is your heart and lungs apart of you?..... then they are both you and you are One... On 3/14/2026 at 3:50 PM, Pioneer1 said: Nature is God All things are a part of Nature Obviously I don't believe either statement is true. They Ancients taught it And science is catching up On 3/14/2026 at 3:50 PM, Pioneer1 said: GOD is perfect; however nature produces deformities and imperfections. And if all things are part of nature, you wouldn't have the term "supernatural". The Supernatural is a part of Nature...that we humans do not fully understand and so consider it Super-stitious On 3/14/2026 at 3:50 PM, Pioneer1 said: For some Interesting. Yes On 3/14/2026 at 3:50 PM, Pioneer1 said: Perhaps we need to do a mass experiment to see if IT actually works or were the ones you claim it worked for actually were doing something else and THAT was what worked. Or see if it actually DIDN'T work for them as you claim. Go to any budhist temple or country and do a survey.... Those experiments are being conducted by many research facilities. On 3/14/2026 at 3:50 PM, Pioneer1 said: But if it did work and it does work, then it's something we need to take seriously. Who wouldn't want a guaranteed way to end suffering? It does work But it does not generate money Your faithfulness to the practices is the only guarantee. On 3/14/2026 at 3:50 PM, Pioneer1 said: True they do not see themselves as Animist or Christians black Africans... They consider themselves Arabs Muslims... But to the western racist eye or in your situation racialized eyes...they are Black Africans regardless of religious Those who call themselves Arab Muslims generally DO NOT see themselves as Black Africans. They see themselves as RACIALLY different. Ethnically different.... Only since the devilpoment and the spread of racist ideology did this influence reach the Arabs On 3/14/2026 at 3:50 PM, Pioneer1 said: I am sure Do you believe that the Universe, or atleast our Solar system...was created based on mathematics? Yes On 3/14/2026 at 3:50 PM, Pioneer1 said: The Western European concept of race is the concept of race period.... By this statement, are you suggesting that this is the ONLY concept of race? No....I am saying there is the premier Concept of race It is originator of current idea around race....most other taken from it and adjust to their Time and Place. On 3/14/2026 at 3:50 PM, Pioneer1 said: Some christians do not practice idol worship or the worship of Mary or the concept of purgatory...that is unchristian Lol...some Christians barely even practice CHRISTIANITY...let alone the various forms of it. The Baptist or Lutheran criticizes the Catholic for their statues of Mary while they have pictures of Jesus in their churches and crosses around their necks, lol. Hypocrisy... Maybe none of them are true Christians... On 3/14/2026 at 3:50 PM, Pioneer1 said: My understanding (and perhaps I'm wrong) of what it means to be a Christian is confessing and believing that Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior. Every other belief or ritual is secondary. I my defination of a Christian is to practice the lifestyle that Christ Live Practice and taught - Righteosness. On 3/14/2026 at 3:50 PM, Pioneer1 said: whose ignorance...there or yours? Based on the people I've talked to who almost never looked at a map of their own city and neighborhoods....theirs. On 3/14/2026 at 3:50 PM, Pioneer1 said: One time when I was in Los Angeles..... I took a brother around the block and pointed up at a street sign that said Central Av S. I asked him what does that sign say. He said exactly "Central Av S" I said that "S" is short for SOUTH and the "av" is short for AVENUE. I explained to him how his neighborhood (Watts) was indeed part of the South Central region of Los Angeles. Since then that region has been changed to "South Los Angeles". Thanks for teaching schooling a brother who was ignorant On 3/14/2026 at 3:50 PM, Pioneer1 said: Why are the limitations irrelevance? Because if we are talking about a certain subject in a certain region, we don't necessarily need to know how others OUTSIDE of that region feel about it or see it. It helps, but it's not totally necessary. Exactly... It may not be a need or necessity but it helps and aids in understanding if you do Some guy overheard some Black Americans talking and went away with the idea that dogs in America can talk On 3/14/2026 at 3:50 PM, Pioneer1 said: No..... they cannot. Apparently you don't understand the concept of race as well as you THINK and CLAIM you do...lol. Explain? On 3/14/2026 at 3:50 PM, Pioneer1 said: To you in your mind what is that woman.....? Ok, that makes it easier. To me....racially speaking...she is a White woman. A Caucasian woman. Both her Parents are Black Africans....would that change you mind? None of her people are from the caucasus mountains... 15 hours ago, Chevdove said: You will find no proof of that Pesse and dufuna Boats They have the proof 15 hours ago, Chevdove said: Because this American government formed on the basis of enslaving millions of little African children and then lying, we must prove certain ancient histories with confirmations. There is no proof of boats that could sail across the oceans 8000 years ago. Scientists Built a Canoe Using Only Prehistoric Tools. Then They Sailed the Dangerous 140-Mile Route Early Humans Traveled 30,000 Years Ago https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scientists-built-a-canoe-using-only-prehistoric-tools-then-they-sailed-the-dangerous-140-mile-route-early-humans-traveled-30000-years-ago-180986900/
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