harry brown Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 Our. Ancestors. After. Being. Kidnapped ..And. Put. In. Shackles. And. Chains. Being. Whipped And. Thrown. Over. Board. To the. Sharks. ,That. Was. What. The. Bible. God. Wanted. ,Bible. Scriptures. Says. God. Lord. Does. Everything. For. His. Own. ,Purpose. ,He. Created. The. .Wicked. To. Be. Wicked. .He. Created. Wicked. .People. To. Be. Wicked. ...So This. Evil. Wicked. ,GOD. Created. Evil. Wicked. Demonic. Racist. TRASH. White. People. .To. Be. Evil. Demonic. Wicked. Murderous. On. Planet. Earth. .Scriptures. Say. The. Wicked. Are. Wicked. Because. He. Made. Then. That. Way. ,They. Are. Not. Responsible. For. Their. Behavior. Not. Their. Fault. .Is. This. The. ,Reason. Why. Black. Christians. Love. Forgiving. Demonic. Evil. Wicked. Racist. White. People. When. They. Burn. Down. Black. Churches. Genocide. Black. People. , And. Black. Communities. .... ?? I. Am. A. Proud. BLACK. ATHEIST. ...!!
Pioneer1 Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 Most of the Bible was actually written for Caucasians....not us. It starts off with the history of ADAM (White man) and his descendants and how they were kicked out of the Garden of Eden (Africa).
Chevdove Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 On 1/27/2026 at 5:34 PM, harry brown said: The. Bible. God. Wanted. ,Bible. Scriptures. Says. God. Lord. Does. Everything. For. His. Own. ,Purpose. ,He. Created. The. .Wicked. To. Be. Wicked. .He. Created. Wicked. .People. To. Be. Wicked. ...So This. Evil. Wicked. ,GOD. Created. Evil. Wicked. The Bible says that we, humans have Free Will. God created us to have Free Will and make our own choices. The Bible says that Moses married a Black woman, David married a Black woman and Solomon both elevated and married the Black skinned Virgin, and God elevated these men. Jesus came through the birth canal of a Black woman and God blessed all of these prophets that embraced Black females. So Blacks believe what they want to believe because they have free will, no matter what the Bible says about the Black presence in it. On 1/27/2026 at 5:34 PM, harry brown said: I. Am. A. Proud. BLACK. ATHEIST. ...!! That is your free choice... whether it is wicked or not. You are not a robot. You can believe what you want, even if you profess lies about the Bible, it's your free choice. On 1/28/2026 at 9:16 PM, Pioneer1 said: Most of the Bible was actually written for Caucasians....not us. It starts off with the history of ADAM (White man) and his descendants and how they were kicked out of the Garden of Eden (Africa). Adam as 'a white man' is not possible unless he came from the anatomically straight YDNA haplogroup with origins from one Black African male individual of which all males today come from. Just as the Holy Bible states repeatedly, White Supremacy is professed and forwarded by millions of both, Black Africans and Whites who do not believe in the truth as it is confirmed with science and genetics and agrees with the Bible. We have free choice and free will. White Supremacist have exploited millions of little Black AFrican children through chattel slavery, stolen them and used many of them [us] to forward their movement of White Supremacy and infiltrate Africa with their perverse beliefs and hatred against God. We are all born in sin and if we do not become born again, we will perish just like millions of the Hebrews that passed over the Red Sea some 4000 years ago. God Passed Over their sins when he judged the Egyptian government for their acts of human sacrifice against the people, but no sooner than many of the Hebrews passed over the Red Sea, they too, acted evil and God dropped a lot of them right afterwards. God has no respect of persons when it comes to human sacrifice and unforgivable sins.
Pioneer1 Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 Chev Adam as 'a white man' is not possible unless he came from the anatomically straight YDNA haplogroup with origins from one Black African male individual of which all males today come from. The very word ADAM literally means "red" or "of blood". Any Hebrew dictionary will confirm this. The color link to the story of creation and its key word ‘adam’ comes by the word ‘adom,’ red. The close connection between the physical, perceptual elements becomes now even tighter: red, adom is the color of dam, blood. The chain: Adam-adama-dam-adom, men-ground-blood-red is the metaphorical mirror of God’s language in the physical word. Hebrew Word of the Day - Red - אָדֹם It's the literal description of so-called White people --- who are not actually "white" but pinkish or red colored....especially in hot climates like Africa or the Middle East. As opposed to the Black, Brown, and Yellow people who don't or rarely blush unless they're MIXED with "adam" ancestry...lol. In other regions and cultures like North East Africa...the people called "White" in America are often called "red" people. You're correct in suggesting that the first man or human couldn't be White because Black people couldn't have come from them. But you're speaking of Adam as if HE was the first man or human, when he was not. Adam was NOT the first man and the Bible doesn't even say he was the first man. According to the Bible, Cain left and went to the land of Nod and found a wife. If Adam and Eve were the first and only people on the planet where did Cain find a wife and enough people to populate a city after he allegedly built one? I don't agree with all of the Bible but it does contain a lot of truth. The main problem is people have been INTERPRETING it in a very narrow way that has led to confusion. Just as the Holy Bible states repeatedly, White Supremacy is professed and forwarded by millions of both, Black Africans and Whites who do not believe in the truth as it is confirmed with science and genetics and agrees with the Bible. We have free choice and free will. Well just remember that the same White folks who wrote or edited the Bible hundreds of years ago are the same White people who are writing the scientific text books. So BOTH of them may have to be taken with a grain of salt....lol. It wouldn't be wise to whole heartedly trust ANYTHING that comes from the hands of your open enemy whether it's religious OR scientific. It's not the Mayan Indians who gave the world the Bible and modern Scientific books.....but White folks. It's not the Nigerians who gave the world the Bible and modern Scientific books....but White folks. It's not the Eskimos or Hindus or Congolese who is putting out this material for us to debate over...but White folks. The same people. Yes the Ethiopians have an original scripture, but that's not the Bible that WE have.....the King James version. The script is different and it's not in English. I'm not sure if what the Ethiopians have is "holy" or not...but what WE'RE reading.....the KJV.....is without a doubt a book from the hands of White folks.
Chevdove Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: The very word ADAM literally means "red" or "of blood". Any Hebrew dictionary will confirm this. @Pioneer1 You are pushing White Supremacy with your White reference for the name 'Adam', and this is exactly what the Bible said that we 'Blacks' would do. Your reference is from the 'White man's book whether or not it is stated to be a Hebrew dictionary'. You must confirm SCRIPT with the earth otherwise you are pushing the White man's lie about the origin of Males on this earth. There is no such occurrence of any White male being the origin of any Anatomically straight male with Y-DNA. It doesn't exist. All modern males stem from one Black AFrican male. The 'general' reference I use is ALL genetic lab test when it comes to determining male ancestry of which is 99.99% accuracy. Reproduction connects all the way back to one male individual. Even if you believe that Adam means 'Red' that does not negate the fact that all black males have 'red' blood and some black males show this RED SKIN TONE even though they are very dark skinned like some of my own relatives that I have seen. 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: Adam was NOT the first man and the Bible doesn't even say he was the first man. You're lying again about the Bible. The Bible does say that Adam is the beginning and gives a complete lineage up to Jesus Christ. Satan is not an anatomically straight male and today, in science and genetics, this is proven that there is no other male humans on this earth that have haplogroups, proving reproduction of any other kind of straight male with Y_DNA. You are pushing the White man's lie and his attempt to steal the identity of the Black 'Race' of humans from which all modern humans stems from. Identity theft. 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: According to the Bible, Cain left and went to the land of Nod and found a wife. Another lie against the Bible. The Bible does NOT say that Cain found his wife in 'the land of Nod' [i.e. 'the land of Nod' or 'the land of the North'] Nod, east of Eden means 'Northeast' and ancient history agrees with the Bible that means an ancient civilization in and around the Black Sea of which is indeed Nod-east of Eden. At any rate, the wife has absolutely nothing to do with Cain being 'a male'.
Chevdove Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: If Adam and Eve were the first and only people on the planet where did Cain find a wife and enough people to populate a city after he allegedly built one? I don't agree with all of the Bible but it does contain a lot of truth. The main problem is people have been INTERPRETING it in a very narrow way that has led to confusion. LOL. Oh help me God. 'Narrow way' of thinking!? @Pioneer1 Stop, Lol. Cain's son is named after that city called 'Chanoch' [i.e. Enoch-Cain]. The wife had nothing to do with her son Chanoch being 'a male'. Her genetics contributed nothing to Chanoch being a male. Your 'narrow' understanding of what 'a city' actually means is leading to you misunderstand true historical records. The same Biblical timeline of the ancient cities during that time period of 3000s B.C. match secular records as well of certain ancient BEE-Hive cities and fan shaped cities that first developed near the sea shore initially and around the Black Sea area of Turkey Anatolia and also later copied in other areas of the Old World as well. There were more than one city, however, they were all formed as offshoots of the earliest Two-Pylon cities of Enoch-Cain. The nod-eastern city was the headquarters initially before it develop in northeast Africa, etc. 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: Well just remember that the same White folks who wrote or edited the Bible hundreds of years ago are the same White people who are writing the scientific text books. You place too much belief in mankind. White people have absolutely nothing to do with science in its origin. You can confirm the truth yourself whether or not mankind is lying, even if it takes time, the truth can be confirmed. You can take lies with a grain of salt, but to ignore the truth and believe in lies will lead to permanent damnation. Truth must be confirmed with science and genetics.
Pioneer1 Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 Chev You are pushing White Supremacy with your White reference for the name 'Adam' This isn't white "supremacy"....it's an actually FACT that the word "Adam" means "red" in Hebrew. You don't want to accept this FACT. , and this is exactly what the Bible said that we 'Blacks' would do. Well can you please show me the SCRIPTURE that says "Blacks" would do "such and such". I want to see those very words. Not some "interpretation. Your reference is from the 'White man's book whether or not it is stated to be a Hebrew dictionary'. The Bible ITSELF is a White man's book because it was White men who gave it to us. Who gave the Americans slaves....out Ancestors...the Bible? It was passed down to us from them FROM White folks. Even if you believe that Adam means 'Red' It's not a matter of "belief"....Adam MEANS RED. It's a FACT...plain and simple. If you want more Biblical evidence, Jacob's brother Esau was also called "Edom" because he was red and hairy. Edom and Adam both mean RED and they are the same Hebrew word with different vowels in English. that does not negate the fact that all black males have 'red' blood and some black males show this RED SKIN TONE even though they are very dark skinned like some of my own relatives that I have seen. Show me a picture of a dark skinned Black person with "red" skin tone. You're making things up to fit the scriptures. You're lying again about the Bible. The Bible does say that Adam is the beginning and gives a complete lineage up to Jesus Christ. Oh really????? Genesis Chapter 1 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. Genesis Chapter 2 2 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. 4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, 5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 15 And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. 18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. 19 And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. If we were read these scriptures LINEARLY and as they are: 1. God CREATED male and female together and this as on the 6th day. Later on 2. Lord God FORMED a man from the dust of the Earth called "Adam" and he was alone! 3. In chapter 1 MEN AND WOMEN were created together. In the 2nd Chapter we read about ONE MAN who was MADE ALONE And it was decided that it wasn't good for him to be alone and later on Eve was made for him. ONE group were males and females CREATED TOGETHER ANOTHER group was a man who was FORMED from dirt or dust and later on a woman made for him from his rib So there were people created BEFORE Adam...who was a MADE man.
Chevdove Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: I'm not sure if what the Ethiopians have is "holy" or not...but what WE'RE reading.....the KJV.....is without a doubt a book from the hands of White folks. The White folks that took ancient scripture and gave it back to scholars did so, because all Black civilizations became obsessed with White folks and ignored confirmed truth about Black origins as it was written in the Bible. The KJV says that Moses married a black woman, that David married a Black woman, that Solomon was in love with a Black virgin and that God elevated them and their offspring for this reason. That is not a lie. Solomon wrote that he was a twin to the Black virgin that he fell in love with and he equated his analogy of the genetics of the female deer in that she always gives birth to fraternal twins; one male and one female. The very Black virgin wrote that Solomon looked just like her brother and because he was not her brother but her lover, all of the other women in the village were jealous of her because she got the attention of Solomon; a very black skinned male and the son of David and Bathsheba. For the White folks Bible to lie about that would go against all common sense. LOL. [1] O that thou wert as my brother, that sucked the breasts of my mother! when I should find thee without, I would kiss thee; yea, I should not be despised. SONG OF SOLOMON 8:1. So if White folks had ancient scriptures translated, we do need to confirm scripture, but you would be completely lost if it had not been for the White folks that took up the cross due to Black people becoming obsessed with White people and wanted nothing to do with being Black. Who do you think hated Jesus, white racist only!? 7 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: This isn't white "supremacy"....it's an actually FACT that the word "Adam" means "red" in Hebrew. You don't want to accept this FACT. You believe in white males being Hebrew and that it's a fact. LOL 8 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: Well can you please show me the SCRIPTURE that says "Blacks" would do "such and such". I want to see those very words. Not some "interpretation. I can't rewrite what has been written down. It was written in codes. Daniel sealed up prophecy, meaning he wrote in codes and so did all of the prophets. I already explained one major prophecy about Black people that worship White people: The prophecy of the Bay and Grisled Horses. 12 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: So there were people created BEFORE Adam...who was a MADE man. The BIBLE said nothing about another creation of a man, if so, where are they @Pioneer1? Why is there absolutely NO reproduction or genes that reveals this other male separate from modern mankind? There were definitely other males on this earth but they were intersex and not at all able to give birth to any males separate from all anatomically straight males today in which all genetics of the Ydna show direct reproductive consecutive links. LOL. You have misunderstood the Bible about the creation of Adam.
Pioneer1 Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 Chev 41 minutes ago, Chevdove said: The BIBLE said nothing about another creation of a man, if so, where are they @Pioneer1? I just showed you the origins of TWO DIFFERENT groups of people in the same Biblical book of Genesis. One in the first chapter, and the other in the second. Lol.... But you wanna sit up there and act like you didn't see what you just read, huh? "That ain't in MY Bible. I don't know WHAT he talkin' bout."
Chevdove Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: Lol.... But you wanna sit up there and act like you didn't see what you just read, huh? "That ain't in MY Bible. I don't know WHAT he talkin' bout." You believe in the interpretation of White Racist, all the while have not answered my question about the scientific proof of it today. @Pioneer1 where is the genetic proof today, of the reproduction of this OTHER MALE that you believe that the Bible is saying was also CREATED!?
Pioneer1 Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 Chev I can't rewrite what has been written down. It was written in codes. Daniel sealed up prophecy, meaning he wrote in codes and so did all of the prophets. If that's the case, then how do YOU know what it says? Have you even read these scriptures for yourself? Who told you about them. I already explained one major prophecy about Black people that worship White people: The prophecy of the Bay and Grisled Horses. Where did you get that prophecy from? You believe in the interpretation of White Racist, all the while have not answered my question about the scientific proof of it today. I don't believe in any man-made book. Religious OR Scientific. If I can't get proof of it myself....I'm not believing in it. They can come up with all this "chromosome X and Y this" and "DNA that"....but yet they can't even figure out what causes and cures the common cold. Chromosome Y = y/why you believe in that shit....lol. here is the genetic proof today, of the reproduction of this OTHER MALE that you believe that the Bible is saying was also CREATED!? According to YOUR Bible....ONE male was create and the OTHER male was made or formed from dirt. There's a difference between CREATED and MADE/FORMED. When you CREATE something you bring it into existence out of...as they say...."thin air". You think or speak it and it exists. On the other hand when you MAKE or FORM something you take substances that is already here and put it together like making a cake or building a building. You take the material already here and shape it and form it to make something else. In the Bible YOU believe in (not me) one chapter speaks of males and females being CREATED together and in the next chapter it speaks of a man being FORMED/MADE from dirt and a woman being MADE from his rib. 2 different groups of people being put on the planet. One group created....another group made.
Chevdove Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: I don't believe in any man-made book. You are absolutely contradicting yourself. 6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: According to YOUR Bible....ONE male was create and the OTHER male was made or formed from dirt. You have an elementary form of understanding script. As one who taught language arts in public schools, you cannot even master basic language art skills that student in Middle School must master before they can achieve in higher education @Pioneer1. In your own words, you think linear. LOL. On 2/5/2026 at 5:31 PM, Pioneer1 said: If we were read these scriptures LINEARLY and as they are: LOL. Your mind is so confused. Just as I had said, the White Supremacist have used us, African Americans starting from the beginning of Chattel Slavery times from childhood to put out corruption and to infiltrate Africa with their perversion. For this reason, thousands of years ago, as this is a repeated pattern of the Devil, the Creator God judges the adults who formed and after the third and fourth generations, He overhauls the systems. Only a small percentage of the Blacks, even though, have been oppressed under racism will not make it into the New World because, it is human behavior, that it is almost impossible to become born again and stop bringing in the very perversion among the next generations that are not even born again. You said that Adam was a White male and your source is a White Hebrew book. smh. You are furthering identity theft of the Devil. There is no such genetics on this planet that supports the origin of a White male that is anatomically straight outside of one African male inidividual. It is your understanding that the Creator could not form Adam in his own image and also use the dust of the earth elements to fashion him. It is your understanding that the Creator could not use the bones of Adam to clone Eve. It is your understanding that we, Blacks should not understand genetics and Y chromosome genes versus X chromosome genes. Man I could not imagine you, as an old man exposing this kind of mindset to the next generations of Black Americans. That is why even Moses could not cross into the Promised Land. The Creator will not expose Black people to Colorism and White Supremacy even among us Black folk when he makes his move to overhaul humanity. Jesus said that many of the Children of the kingdom will not make it into heaven. Jesus had nothing to do with the Romans, Gentiles, because they were already Separatist, unless they came up to him, but he picked conflicts with the Jewish nation instead.
Pioneer1 Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 Chev You are absolutely contradicting yourself. How so? Explain...if you can, lol. You have an elementary form of understanding script. You don't understand "the script" AT ALL...lol. Because you haven't even read it. If so...where is it? You said it was locked up somewhere inaccessible. So how do you even KNOW what "the script" says? As one who taught language arts in public schools, you cannot even master basic language art skills that student in Middle School must master before they can achieve in higher education @Pioneer1. In your own words, you think linear. LOL. Yes. Linear means thinking STRAIGHT. A leads to B leads to C Straight forward...as opposed to thinking in circles and "thinking" you're being smart and super intelligent but not yielding any results. Your mind is so confused. If I'm confused and you're not, why haven't YOU solved the problems in our community then? Give us the answers that will SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS. Just as I had said, the White Supremacist have used us, African Americans starting from the beginning of Chattel Slavery times from childhood to put out corruption and to infiltrate Africa with their perversion. But not you...because you aren't confused. So give us the solution...lol. For this reason, thousands of years ago, as this is a repeated pattern of the Devil, the Creator God judges the adults who formed and after the third and fourth generations, He overhauls the systems. Black people have been in the U.S. for dozens of generations....has it been "overhauled" yet? Trump is in office right now.....is it being overhauled? Or are you speaking about that which you don't know? White folks were in power 400 years ago and they're in power today. Only a small percentage of the Blacks, even though, have been oppressed under racism will not make it into the New World When is this "new world" you speak of coming in? Is it after death? Is it in 2026 or 2027? People have been believing in a New World being established for HUNDREDS of years and their bodies have died and turned to dust waiting for it to come. Give me a date. You said that Adam was a White male and your source is a White Hebrew book. smh. Do you believe in the Bible? I don't. Nor do I believe in Adam. I simply use them as examples for people who DO believe in them. But I don't. Adam was an ALLEGORY. A symbol of the White race. We were here on this planet for MILLIONS of years before Adam or the White race. But if YOU believe in the Bible, then do YOU believe the Hebrew language is legitimate and that the book of Genesis was written in it? It is your understanding that the Creator could not form Adam in his own image and also use the dust of the earth elements to fashion him. I didn't say that. Find me the quote. It is your understanding that the Creator could not use the bones of Adam to clone Eve. I didn't say that. Find me the quote. It is your understanding that we, Blacks should not understand genetics and Y chromosome genes versus X chromosome genes. Now I DID say that....lol. Did YOU see the x and y chromosomes personally or was this something else you got from a White man's so-called "scientific" text book? I know you said you went to school for it but learning something in a classroom and observing it in real life are usually 2 different things. Have YOU confirmed the existence of X and Y chromosomes yourself with a microscope or some other form of technology to confirm this? Man I could not imagine you, as an old man exposing this kind of mindset to the next generations of Black Americans. As opposed to what? Smoking that fake ass weed so many younger people are smoking today? Many of the younger people are homeless, hopeless, and sexually confused. Since you don't want to expose the youth to the old man, then get with the young men you THINK have all the answers and ask them why haven't THEY solved the damn problems in society? Hell, if they're so smart....we should see some progress. If THEY aren't confused and are so smart and have the answers and know about the X and Y chromosomes....lol....use that knowledge to solve the problems and bring in the New World! .....don't waste time arguing with old men online about Adam and Eve and what they did up in the Garden, lol. That is why even Moses could not cross into the Promised Land. The Creator will not expose Black people to Colorism and White Supremacy even among us Black folk when he makes his move to overhaul humanity. You don't know WHAT Moses did, because you weren't around to witness it. All you know is what you read in some book. Nor do you know what THE CREATOR is going to do, because you aren't THE CREATOR. Again, if you and those you think are smart have the answers.....why don't YALL build a better planet or society what the so-called "knowledge" that you have???? Why argue scripture and script when you can USE it as a blueprint to build a new and better world???? Jesus said that many of the Children of the kingdom will not make it into heaven. You don't know what Jesus said either. How? Where is HIS book or HIS words? Do you have that script? Or is THAT locked away in a cave somewhere too? THIS is one of the reasons why traffic on discussion boards is low but social media traffic is high....... Because people don't like their ideas and views challenged. They like to post 1 or 2 sentences on Instagram and facebook with no evidence to support what they're saying and get a bunch of likes and thumbs up. Anybody questioning or challenging their assertions are simply blocked or banned.
ProfD Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said: THIS is one of the reasons why traffic on discussion boards is low but social media traffic is high....... Because people don't like their ideas and views challenged. It is also the main reason people usually stay away from discussions about politics & religion. Circular debate &/or argument. Black folks especially should spend less time talking about religion & use that energy to build power & wealth.
Pioneer1 Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 ProfD It is also the main reason people usually stay away from discussions about politics & religion. Circular debate &/or argument. While you're right, these are still the subjects most MATURE people like to talk about. Juveniles and intellectually deficient adults CAN'T talk about these subjects and tend not to be interested in them. Just give them the sports section of the magazine or turn on some cartoons and let them be...lol. A decent discussion -not argument- about religion or politics is a sign of intellect. Black folks especially should spend less time talking about religion & use that energy to build power & wealth. Facts. The truth is, many of our people are incapable of building wealth and power....so the only thing they CAN do is talk trash with eachother or argue with eachother over a religion that was handed to them by their oppressors....be they European or Arab.
ProfD Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: While you're right, these are still the subjects most MATURE people like to talk about. A decent discussion -not argument- about religion or politics is a sign of intellect. The truth is, many of our people are incapable of building wealth and power....so the only thing they CAN do is talk trash with eachother or argue with eachother over a religion that was handed to them by their oppressors.... Mature & intelligent enough to absorb information about & discuss/debate religion, a man-made tool of oppression & distraction but incapable of building wealth & power. Something is very wrong there.
Pioneer1 Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 20 minutes ago, ProfD said: Mature & intelligent enough to absorb information about & discuss/debate religion, a man-made tool of oppression & distraction but incapable of building wealth & power. Something ia very wrong there. LOL....I see your point. However building wealth and power takes more than just intellect and articulation....something good discussions are built of. Building wealth and power requires intelligence AND cooperation and certain charismatic powers with the ability to influence and motivate people to share a goal and plan and get along with eachother in harmony well enough to see it through and execute it. Like the old saying goes about college professors.... Professors are professionals who for some reasons usually couldn't put into practice what they preached....lol. You can TEACH law...but didn't make a very good laywer. You can TEACH medicine...but didn't make a very good doctor. You can TEACH political science at some university.....but couldn't win an election, lol. Any intelligent person with the power of speech can hold a discussion, but to actually build wealth takes more.
ProfD Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Building wealth and power requires intelligence AND cooperation and certain charismatic powers with the ability to influence and motivate people to share a goal and plan and get along with eachother in harmony well enough to see it through and execute it. Black folks do all of that when building their churches. Building wealth & power requires the same level of effort that Black folks pour into religion. 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: ,Any intelligent person with the power of speech can hold a discussion, but to actually build wealth takes more. Those mega-church preachers would like to have a word.
Chevdove Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 On 2/7/2026 at 7:03 PM, Pioneer1 said: Have YOU confirmed the existence of X and Y chromosomes yourself with a microscope or some other form of technology to confirm this? Yes!!! Absolutely! @Pioneer1 You're giving White racist credit for science and genetics. LOL. Yes, I had to study microscopic slides as a mandatory requirement in Biology!!! Geez! On 2/7/2026 at 7:03 PM, Pioneer1 said: .....don't waste time arguing with old men online about Adam and Eve and what they did up in the Garden, lol. Never! That would never be my goal, to argue with older Black men about Adam, Eve and Biblical records with the hope of getting you to believe. My purpose in addressing some topics when I read comments from Black men that are opposed to the records about 'Black Jesus' is for the future generations to see who is really rejecting the truth in that it is not just White people! I would never attempt to convert you. That would never be my goal, because again, the ancient scriptures reveal there is a low percentage of that anyway. One of my goals in discussions about Christianity and the Black presence in the Bible is to reveal to future generations how we, as Black people of African descent have lost the truth and also ironically support White Supremacy. But yes, it would be awesome if you were converted though, I would be very happy about that! However, that is not my goal. On 2/7/2026 at 7:03 PM, Pioneer1 said: Why argue scripture and script when you can USE it as a blueprint to build a new and better world???? Again, my obsession with this kind of debate is for the future, not the present. I believe that Blacks born in the future, must see the process in how we have been deceived into believing that we must exist in a White dominated world, and we must also see how our ancestors have led us into this kind of oppression too. I think we need to take some accountability, too in how we think that the only way to exist is under the kind of world systems that exist today. We have never been able to overthrow white domination in the past, so why would it happen now!? That's a crazy thought imo. I believe there needs to be a higher power to overthrow Black oppression, because part of why this is happening is due to Black Hatred too, not just White racism. On 2/8/2026 at 4:07 PM, ProfD said: Black folks do all of that when building their churches. Building wealth & power requires the same level of effort that Black folks pour into religion. Wealth and power, here in America!? Maybe for a few Blacks, but imo, that is never going to happen under this White dominated system. Black churches, imo and based on prophecy is a thing of the past, or will be a thing of the past eventually. Here in America, Black churches came out of chattel slavery and this then, is problematic. There has been a great falling away from the Church, imo, due to so much exploitation that started during chattel slavery. On 2/7/2026 at 7:03 PM, Pioneer1 said: THIS is one of the reasons why traffic on discussion boards is low but social media traffic is high....... Because people don't like their ideas and views challenged. Oh! But I love it though! I love my views challenged and that is I again, my Biblical reference is this; Moses married a Black woman, David married a Black woman, Solomon fell in love with a Black virgin... Jesus elevated Peter, a Black man. And the Creator said, this is my son, I am well pleased. Yet today, most Blacks still want to believe that the Adam and the Jews were White.... LOL!!! I love this kind of challenge because it gives me the opportunity to reveal a bigger picture as to where the disbelief is coming from and how we, as Black folk have been deceived and used to reject the truth too.
Pioneer1 Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 ProfD Black folks do all of that when building their churches. Building wealth & power requires the same level of effort that Black folks pour into religion. Well, they ARE building wealth and power.....for the Black church, lol. The church is providing a form of entertainment and psychological therapy for them. So they pay....as they would an entertainer or therapist. I know what you have in mind when you say wealth building. Financial institutions, land, hospitals, department stores, manufacturing. Yes..... But see, that involves actually WORKING. When you build a department store people have to show up and open it on time, provide customer service, and make sure you have everything the people need when they need it. That's a lot of mental power and stress. A lot of our people don't want that. So they let White folks take care of it. Most niggaz don't even want to build the BUILDING that they're having church in. Many would rather let the White folks and Mexicans do THAT...and when it's finished....they buy it and move into it and have service. This is who you're dealing with brutha. Chev Yes!!! Absolutely! @Pioneer1 You're giving White racist credit for science and genetics. LOL. I'm giving White folks (not exactly sure if they were racist or not) credit for coming up with the terms DNA and chromosome because they DID. If Africans or Indians or Asians or any other groups other than Whites came up with those terms before Whites did...where is the record of them using it? Looks to me like White folks are coming up with this shit and Black, Brown, and Yellow folks are sitting up in the damn class rooms listening to THEM for the knowledge. Why didn't WE come up with it...if it's true? We're the oldest people on the planet. We had to wait until THEY "discovered" DNA and chromosomes before we could talk about them? Never! That would never be my goal, to argue with older Black men about Adam, Eve and Biblical records with the hope of getting you to believe. My purpose in addressing some topics when I read comments from Black men that are opposed to the records about 'Black Jesus' Where can I find these records of a "Black Jesus"? I want to see and read them for myself. is for the future generations to see who is really rejecting the truth in that it is not just White people! I would never attempt to convert you. That would never be my goal, because again, the ancient scriptures reveal there is a low percentage of that anyway. Where can I find this information? Again, I want to verify the percentage for myself? One of my goals in discussions about Christianity and the Black presence in the Bible is to reveal to future generations how we, as Black people of African descent have lost the truth and also ironically support White Supremacy. But yes, it would be awesome if you were converted though, I would be very happy about that! However, that is not my goal. If you want to find the "lost truth"....I suggest you put the Bible down, buy a plane ticket, and travel directly to the Middle East and Africa to see things for yourself. Not believe in some book put together in 325 AD by Roman priests and an Emperor. Again, my obsession with this kind of debate is for the future, not the present. I believe that Blacks born in the future, must see the process in how we have been deceived into believing that we must exist in a White dominated world, and we must also see how our ancestors have led us into this kind of oppression too. If this is the case, this tells me that you don't expect Jesus to return anytime soon NOR do you expect for a "new kingdom" to be established on Earth anytime soon. If you did, you wouldn't be so concerned about the future and the youth because you'd believe all will be made right in the very near future. If you're focused on making sure the Black youth of the future know the truth.....which is a noble endeavor....then how much faith do you have that the New Kingdom is on it's way? I think we need to take some accountability, too in how we think that the only way to exist is under the kind of world systems that exist today. We have never been able to overthrow white domination in the past, so why would it happen now!? That's a crazy thought imo. I believe there needs to be a higher power to overthrow Black oppression, because part of why this is happening is due to Black Hatred too, not just White racism. I agree. But we can't overthrow White racism using the books and religions HE gave us. They have no power. That's why he gave them to us. A lot of the things that really DO have power....he taught us to stay away from. Oh! But I love it though! Lol.... You don't "love" it....gurl you be getting irritated as all GET OUT when I challenge some traditional Biblical beliefs. Typing in huge and bold letters isn't a sign of joy and happiness...lol. Moses married a Black woman, David married a Black woman, Solomon fell in love with a Black virgin... If this is true....then what color was Moses, David, and Solomon? Jesus elevated Peter, a Black man. And the Creator said, this is my son, I am well pleased. Yet today, Who told you that Peter was a Black man? Where did you read that? most Blacks still want to believe that the Adam and the Jews were White.... LOL!!! Actually, the opposite is true. Most Black people believe or WANT to believe that: 1. Adam was the first human on the planet 2. And because the first humans were Black, they assume and make Adam a Black man too. They also claim that since Adam was....according to the Bible....taken from dirt and most dirt is brown...that Adam was a brown man. Most Black people also want to believe that the original Jews were Black too. Since most are Christian, they WANT to believe this because it lines up with their beliefs. However the TRUTH is: 1. Adam...who was just an allegory....symbolizes the first White man. Adam means "of/show blood".....meaning the the blusher or blushing person because a blushing person shows blood in the face. According to the Bible the first Jews were in Babylon. Judaism wasn't the religion of Moses. Judaism was a religion born while SOME of the Israelites.....mostly the tribe of Judah....were held captive in Babylon. It's a mixture of SOME of the teachings of Moses mixed with Babylonian and Persian religions. I love this kind of challenge because it gives me the opportunity to reveal a bigger picture as to where the disbelief is coming from and how we, as Black folk have been deceived and used to reject the truth too. Well if it's true that Black folks have been deceived and reject the truth, then what does that say about our people? That would suggest that maybe White folks SHOULD be in charge! Why would nature allow a people so gullible and easily deceived...to lead? Especially if they were presented with the truth and rejected it? What does that say about them? That wouldn't make a lot of sense. If White folks are the ones with the sense....I said IF....then....well....step out of the way and let those who are most qualified...lead. Now Chev..... As much as you've said, I notice what you DIDN'T say.....lol. You didn't tell me what scriptures you read or whether or not you believe in the Bible. You constantly talk about "script" but you don't tell me where this "script" is or how you were able to read it or IF you've even read it.
Chevdove Posted Sunday at 06:48 PM Report Posted Sunday at 06:48 PM On 2/11/2026 at 7:45 PM, Pioneer1 said: If Africans or Indians or Asians or any other groups other than Whites came up with those terms before Whites did...where is the record of them using it? LOL. @Pioneer1 You believe White people have something to do with original script. Case close. LOL. On 2/11/2026 at 7:45 PM, Pioneer1 said: We had to wait until THEY "discovered" DNA and chromosomes before we could talk about them? You believe the ancient scripts begin in AD 325 and the words the Book of GENES [i.e. GENESIS] was originated by White men. Case close. LOl You believe that the ancient Black kings waited for thousands of years before they knew anything about DNA [i.e. GENES] and Chromosomes. Case close. On 2/11/2026 at 7:45 PM, Pioneer1 said: Where can I find these records of a "Black Jesus"? I want to see and read them for myself. BUT you don't need to see Kunta Kinte or the Slave Ships in order to believe that history? Or you don't believe in the White man's books about the slave ships? You don't trust your English education to believe that you can sift through and research words and scripture to get at the truth about ancient Black males living in Jerusalem, but you do accept the history about black African slaves being brought here to America from Africa? You don't believe in the translations of AD 325 about Moses' wife being black, Solomon falling in love with a Black Virgin, etc. so you throw down the entire book of ancient history? LOL. On 2/11/2026 at 7:45 PM, Pioneer1 said: Where can I find this information? Again, I want to verify the percentage for myself? I've already shared research about that countless times. But, I will share a little more. First; now in the form of a 4 questions; As far as Black Christians who say they worship and believe in Jesus, [1] How many of them do you think believe that Jesus was born on December 25? [2] How many do you think believe that it is NOT crucial to know the exact date of his birth even though the scriptures reveal it was pinpointed with astronomical accuracy? [3] How many of these 'Black Christians' do you think would get angry if they were told that Jesus Christ looked like 'Shiny Brass'? And lastly, [4] How many Black pastor teach their followers of the scriptures and the true scientific meaning of Brass versus 'Shiny Brass'? *[Dull Brass = Copper-zinc alloy (brown) versus Shiny Brass = Copper-tin alloy (a shiny black metal)] So then, one of my responses to your question about percentages would lie in the answers to these four questions. Second; My second response would be the scripture reference about God's Redemption Plan and when he put Abraham in a deep sleep. The Creator told Abraham that in 400 years, He was going to overthrow the Egyptians completely. So today, the Egyptians in control of Egypt do NOT look like the ancient Egyptians of Kemet. None of them. This was NOT a 'low percentage', however, it was slam dunk! Third; My third response is what Jesus said about 'the Children of the Kingdom': [11] And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. [12] But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. MATTHEW 8:11-12. *The Children of the Kingdom; this refers to anyone, whether Black or White, African or Gentile, anyone still under the Old system of kingdoms. Jesus brought forth a new covenant and a new movement due to the Romans and their empire system of taxation. Jesus brought forth the Church Movement and did away with the Temple worship for a time period. Nevertheless, again, this is NOT a low percentage but zero percentage!!! About 30 years later, did NOT the Romans completely overthrow the Jews Sanhedrin system!!! Did the Romans NOT drive the Jews out of Jerusalem and completely outlawed them from being in Jerusalem unless they were enslaved? So, Jesus was not referring to this time period though, he was referring to the downfall of the Second Rome and 'weeping and gnashing of teeth' is one particular a description of Hell or the Polar regions of the planet. It is very difficult for most humans to change their mindset if they have been conditioned over long periods of time to conform to a certain way of thinking even if it is right or wrong. So even if you believe in 'anything', it is good to fast and pray over it, research it, and most of all, confirm it, whether it be true or not. The ancient Egyptians were firstborn, but over time, they accepted idolatry and then White Supremacy. The pharaohs began to obsess over Mitannian women 'White women' and the Original Egyptian women began to obsess over White [Hittite] priesthood. So, soon they thought it was good to allow the Assyrians to become their leaders and so, by the time of the 18th Dynasty, the Assyrians, outlawed the Theban religion, closed down their temples, moved the Capital and set up Baal and Canaanite Worship. But the Creator already saw that they had rejected Thebes so 400 years prior to Nefertiti becoming the Head over the Sphinx, the Creator already told Abraham, they he rejected the Egyptians for their deeds. He decided to take the Theban priesthood from the Egyptians and set it up under Abraham.
Chevdove Posted Sunday at 07:24 PM Report Posted Sunday at 07:24 PM On 2/11/2026 at 7:45 PM, Pioneer1 said: If you're focused on making sure the Black youth of the future know the truth.....which is a noble endeavor....then how much faith do you have that the New Kingdom is on it's way? Thank you! Life is Eternal. So this future Kingdom will not completely form for a very, very, long time; Like a thousand years later. So says prophecy. That is why we have to have 'the Fruit of the Spirit', and be born again spiritually. We have to learn how to have patience, meekness, long suffering, temperance while we reach out to help others, give them a chance to understand God's Redemption Plan and how it will unfold by and by. The truth is coming out by and by in how we have been born and deceived and oppressed, just because we are born Black African. We have been encourage to hate ourselves. On 2/11/2026 at 7:45 PM, Pioneer1 said: If this is true....then what color was Moses, David, and Solomon? The scriptures and other ancient script, like the Egyptians also reveal that Black folk varied in skin color. Script reveals that Moses was extremely light skinned, David was ruddy and Solomon wrote that he was 'a twin' to the Black skinned virgin that he loved. On 2/11/2026 at 7:45 PM, Pioneer1 said: Who told you that Peter was a Black man? Where did you read that? Jesus said, [paraphrasing] 'Simon, son of Jona, I am going to call you Simon Peter and I am going to set up my movement based on you and the Gates of Hell shall not prevail against'. The word 'Peter' has always referred to 'black'!!! The origin is 'petroleum' or 'Black oil' or 'rock oil'... Also, there are many other references that confirm this as well. On 2/11/2026 at 7:45 PM, Pioneer1 said: However the TRUTH is: 1. Adam...who was just an allegory....symbolizes the first White man. White book, right? You got this from a White book, because there is no book that would confirm this genetically. There is no human on this earth that started out as an anatomically straight White skinned male. But this is proof in what happened in ancient times when the Creator overhauled White Supremacy in Black civilizations. On 2/11/2026 at 7:45 PM, Pioneer1 said: If White folks are the ones with the sense....I said IF....then....well....step out of the way and let those who are most qualified...lead. LOL. That is what has been happening, so says the prophet Daniel! White people have been in charge for a time, times and a half of times because Black people worship them and conditioned their generations to do the same. So that is why the Creator will indeed get rid of most Negroes, completely and start over again with their REPRODUCTION. That has been repetitive. Reproduction is the GEM that the Creator has been using against the judgment of the third and fourth generations since the beginning of Adam. Only a few old heads will make it to the other side! The Creator will always head up his government with Old Heads though, so someone, older will make it into this new world and I hope I make it! But for a certainty, people of African descent will be born darker skinned more and more when Jesus comes back. He won't be a lamb this time, but a lion spirited leader. Some of these people are going to get their feelings hurt at this time. Jesus already popped off at those watered down Pharisees, trying to be like Moses. Don't you realize that is why he was executed!? Colorism is vexation of spirit and it destroyed the people of Israel. The Creator threw those idiots down 500 years even before Jesus came due to their worship of Baal and Ashteroth. They thought the Messiah was going to look like Moses but the Creator chose the female that Jesus would be born from. LOL. On 2/11/2026 at 7:45 PM, Pioneer1 said: Now Chev..... As much as you've said, I notice what you DIDN'T say.....lol. You didn't tell me what scriptures you read or whether or not you believe in the Bible. You constantly talk about "script" but you don't tell me where this "script" is or how you were able to read it or IF you've even read it. I absolutely believe in the Bible, because it is ancient script, however, many people have mis-interpreted ancient script so we have to confirm. Some translations are a major corruption. That is why it is vital to deal with the King James Version because he was the head of the government at the time and no some run of the mill racist White so-called Christian sect. Even though the English language is extremely faulty, that is why we need to confirm script. The interpretations is where the main deception stems from though. It's easy to confirm the KJV translations, but many people have deliberately Blaspheme the script in the way that they interpret it.
Chevdove Posted Sunday at 08:06 PM Report Posted Sunday at 08:06 PM Okay, I have to drop some humor here! This showed up on my channel recently! I do not follow the late Richard Pryor and was too young when he was doing his thang, but this brief clip just hits the spot on some of the topic in this very thread! Also, the late Robin Williams was in this clip too! It is too funny! I am also going to share another clip when Robin Williams roasted Richard Pryor. 1
Pioneer1 Posted Sunday at 10:53 PM Report Posted Sunday at 10:53 PM Chev You believe White people have something to do with original script. Case close. LOL. You're wrong. I question if there even WAS an "original script". If there is, where is it? You believe the ancient scripts begin in AD 325 and the words the Book of GENES [i.e. GENESIS] was originated by White men. Case close. LOl Again, I question whether there even WAS an "original script". And the word "Gene" actually IS a White word word because it came from the Europeans and means "origin". The Hebrew word for the Biblical book known today as "Genesis" is actually called "Beresit" "Genesis" is just a European translation of it. BUT you don't need to see Kunta Kinte or the Slave Ships in order to believe that history? No, because WE'RE here as evidence. And my Parents and other older people told me stories from people who witnessed Slavery itself as well as the consequences of it. You don't trust your English education to believe that you can sift through and research words and scripture to get at the truth about ancient Black males living in Jerusalem, but you do accept the history about black African slaves being brought here to America from Africa? First of all, why do we need to "sift through" a particular book to get the truth? If it's so full of lies, deceit, and errors....perhaps it needs to be DISCARGED and REPLACED with a new more accurate one. If somebody says they're hungry and asks for a meal....you wouldn't toss them a bag of garbage and ask them to "sift through" it to get a meal.....dang. You don't believe in the translations of AD 325 about Moses' wife being black, Solomon falling in love with a Black Virgin, etc. so you throw down the entire book of ancient history? LOL. I don't believe in the book as a whole. I believe it DOES contain SOME truths, but I can't verify them and I don't think one should have to "sift" through them...as you say....to find the truth. Some words CAN be verified though. I've already shared research about that countless times. But, I will share a little more. First; now in the form of a 4 questions; As far as Black Christians who say they worship and believe in Jesus, [1] How many of them do you think believe that Jesus was born on December 25? Most know better than to use that date today. Yet they don't have an accurate date as to WHEN he was born. How many do you think believe that it is NOT crucial to know the exact date of his birth even though the scriptures reveal it was pinpointed with astronomical accuracy? Not sure. How many of these 'Black Christians' do you think would get angry if they were told that Jesus Christ looked like 'Shiny Brass'? Not sure. I know one group of Black Americans were stoned and ran out of town by a bunch of Black African Christians in Kenya after claiming that Jesus was Black, lol. How many Black pastor teach their followers of the scriptures and the true scientific meaning of Brass versus 'Shiny Brass'? *[Dull Brass = Copper-zinc alloy (brown) versus Shiny Brass = Copper-tin alloy (a shiny black metal)] Not sure. So then, one of my responses to your question about percentages would lie in the answers to these four questions. In other words....... You don't have an answer for me, lol. Second; My second response would be the scripture reference about God's Redemption Plan and when he put Abraham in a deep sleep. The Creator told Abraham that in 400 years, He was going to overthrow the Egyptians completely. Show me this DIRECTLY in the "script". I want to read this for myself if it's as you claim. So today, the Egyptians in control of Egypt do NOT look like the ancient Egyptians of Kemet. None of them. This is true. But where is this in the "scripture"? Looks to me like the original Black Egyptians were replaced by White and lighter ones who were even more evil and wicked. Is that justice? To replace one wicked group with one even MORE wicked and racist? *The Children of the Kingdom; this refers to anyone, whether Black or White, African or Gentile, anyone still under the Old system of kingdoms. Jesus brought forth a new covenant and a new movement due to the Romans and their empire system of taxation. Jesus brought forth the Church Movement and did away with the Temple worship for a time period. The Church wasn't started by Jesus, though. The modern church was started by the Romans....the same people who executed Jesus as many of his followers. Nevertheless, again, this is NOT a low percentage but zero percentage!!! About 30 years later, did NOT the Romans completely overthrow the Jews Sanhedrin system!!! Yes. And just like the Arabs in Egypt...the Romans were more evil and wicked than the Jews they overthrew! How was that righteous? Life is Eternal. So this future Kingdom will not completely form for a very, very, long time; Like a thousand years later. So says prophecy. Where can I find this prophecy? I hope it's plainly written, and not one of those things that so many people have "interpreted" and made up dates in their own minds. The scriptures and other ancient script, like the Egyptians also reveal that Black folk varied in skin color. Script reveals that Moses was extremely light skinned, What script did you read this in? The Bible says that Moses put his hand in his bosom and it was turned very leprous or white as snow....then it was changed back to it's normal color. This suggests that he wasn't White or even very light to begin with. David was ruddy and Solomon wrote that he was 'a twin' to the Black skinned virgin that he loved. Ruddy means white with tinges of pink or red. Blushing. Jesus said, [paraphrasing] 'Simon, son of Jona, I am going to call you Simon Peter and I am going to set up my movement based on you and the Gates of Hell shall not prevail against'. The word 'Peter' has always referred to 'black'!!! The origin is 'petroleum' or 'Black oil' or 'rock oil'... Also, there are many other references that confirm this as well. You're partially correct because Simon was called "peter" or "petre" which means ROCK. But rock isn't the same as the black oil that comes FROM the rocks...lol. Petro = rock Petro-LEUM = oil White book, right? You got this from a White book, because there is no book that would confirm this genetically. There is no human on this earth that started out as an anatomically straight White skinned male. But this is proof in what happened in ancient times when the Creator overhauled White Supremacy in Black civilizations. No. I actually got this from multiple sources Elijah Muhammad taught that Adam symbolized the first White man. The book The Color Purple....written by Alice Walker...also claims that Adam was the first White man. LOL. That is what has been happening, so says the prophet Daniel! White people have been in charge for a time, times and a half of times because Black people worship them and conditioned their generations to do the same. So that is why the Creator will indeed get rid of most Negroes, completely and start over again with their REPRODUCTION. That has been repetitive. Reproduction is the GEM that the Creator has been using against the judgment of the third and fourth generations since the beginning of Adam. Did THE CREATOR tell you that personally, or did you read it in a book? If you read this in a book, can you PLEASE show me directly where it says this specifically? Only a few old heads will make it to the other side! The Creator will always head up his government with Old Heads though, so someone, older will make it into this new world and I hope I make it! But for a certainty, people of African descent will be born darker skinned more and more when Jesus comes back. He won't be a lamb this time, but a lion spirited leader. Some of these people are going to get their feelings hurt at this time. Jesus already popped off at those watered down Pharisees, trying to be like Moses. Don't you realize that is why he was executed!? According to Christians, he was executed and died for the sins of humanity. THAT was the reason...according to the Christians. Why wasn't the Kingdom established right then and there? Why wait thousands of years later allowing for more sin and suffering? You talk about THIS was prophecy and THAT was prophecy but you weren't around to witness any of it NOR when it was prophecied. How do you know those stories weren't written AFTER it happened? My research suggests most of the Old Testament was written 500 years B.C. during the Israelite's stay in Babylon. This was AFTER many of the things they claimed happened. For example.... Today in 2026 I write a book CLAIMING to be from 1700. In that book I "prophecy" that because of the evils of Slavery, America will have a big and nasty war and the Black people will eventually Emancipated. Somebody 100 years later gets that book....looks at the Civil War....and hails my book as a book of prophecy not knowing that I wrote it AFTER the Civil War happened but CLAIMED it was written before. See what I'm saying? I absolutely believe in the Bible, because it is ancient script, however, many people have mis-interpreted ancient script so we have to confirm. Some translations are a major corruption. If it contains ANY corruption, in my opinion it's no longer qualified to be called GOD'S Word Maybe it can be classified as a history book.....maybe...or a book of poetry....but it's certainly not holy. GOD'S WORD must be PERFECT....in my opinion. That is why it is vital to deal with the King James Version because he was the head of the government at the time and no some run of the mill racist White so-called Christian sect. So you DON'T believe that King James was a racist? Did you know that he was a sexual deviant?
Chevdove Posted Wednesday at 12:31 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 12:31 AM On 2/15/2026 at 5:53 PM, Pioneer1 said: You believe White people have something to do with original script. Case close. LOL. You're wrong. I question if there even WAS an "original script". If there is, where is it? You believe the ancient scripts begin in AD 325 and the words the Book of GENES [i.e. GENESIS] was originated by White men. Case close. LOl Again, I question whether there even WAS an "original script". And the word "Gene" actually IS a White word word because it came from the Europeans and means "origin". The Hebrew word for the Biblical book known today as "Genesis" is actually called "Beresit" "Genesis" is just a European translation of it. If you cannot determine the origin of 'original script', @Pioneer1 that is a huge issue because it connects to you not accepting or even understanding the origin of all mankind begins with the Black African humans that formed the first civilizations. If you cannot accept that the first civilization began byway of African men, then that is why you cannot accept the obvious origin of script would begin with Black Africa. You are giving White people credit for the origin of the word 'Genes' and 'Genesis'. Case close. LOL. And NO. The origin of the word 'Beresit' is absolutely not the beginning for all modern mankind. That word only defines one aspect of all Black African-Kemet mankind. On 2/15/2026 at 5:53 PM, Pioneer1 said: BUT you don't need to see Kunta Kinte or the Slave Ships in order to believe that history? No, because WE'RE here as evidence. And my Parents and other older people told me stories from people who witnessed Slavery itself as well as the consequences of it. You did not experience it first hand. Neither did anyone who told you those stories. The same goes for all history before you were born. On 2/15/2026 at 5:53 PM, Pioneer1 said: Second; My second response would be the scripture reference about God's Redemption Plan and when he put Abraham in a deep sleep. The Creator told Abraham that in 400 years, He was going to overthrow the Egyptians completely. Show me this DIRECTLY in the "script". I want to read this for myself if it's as you claim. GENESIS Chapter 15. On 2/15/2026 at 5:53 PM, Pioneer1 said: Life is Eternal. So this future Kingdom will not completely form for a very, very, long time; Like a thousand years later. So says prophecy. Where can I find this prophecy? I hope it's plainly written, and not one of those things that so many people have "interpreted" and made up dates in their own minds. The Bible is written in codes so that many will not understand. I cannot change that. The prophet DANIEL wrote that many will never understand scripture. That is why He told Daniel to code it. If the Creator does not want you to understand, then you won't understand. Anyway, I've already given you that reference many times, but here it is again; The Book of DANIEL is one of many references. Also, the prophet Isaiah as well, stated that judgment period [i.e. Judgement Day] will last for a thousand years. It's 'a Day for a Year' prophecy. The New World will not be completely formed until after 'a time and a season', that is how Daniel wrote it. 'A time' means 'a thousand years' and 'a season' means '90 years'; so 'a time and a season' means 1090 years and this is only part of that prophecy about the formation of the New World. This is a repetitive 'timed appointed prophecy' as 'the Crusades' marks a past time when this has already occurred. The Crusades began after A.D. 1090 and thus began the so-called 'Christian Movement' back into Jerusalem to fight against the Muslims and Jews for control over 'the Middle East' and etc. On 2/15/2026 at 5:53 PM, Pioneer1 said: The scriptures and other ancient script, like the Egyptians also reveal that Black folk varied in skin color. Script reveals that Moses was extremely light skinned, What script did you read this in? The Bible says that Moses put his hand in his bosom and it was turned very leprous or white as snow....then it was changed back to it's normal color. This suggests that he wasn't White or even very light to begin with. LOL! OMG. I will share this reference 'again'. I'll be back as soon as I can. But you do know that Europeans do get 'leprosy'!? Light skinned humans do get leprosy. In fact, leprosy more commonly affects lighter skinned humans, no matter if they are light skinned Negroes or White Europeans. On 2/15/2026 at 5:53 PM, Pioneer1 said: So you DON'T believe that King James was a racist? I said the King James Version, and specifically did not say anything about him. When Black people continued to obsess over White Idols, the Creator allowed them to be governed as such. So, as the Book of DANIEL states 'a time, times, and a half of times' humans are under White governments, but he never said any one government was headed up by a perfect human. That is why he sent His Son, Jesus. And He will have to come again because mankind has proven that if he does not come back, we are in trouble. The Creator judges the world at times by HIMSELF as He did during the time of the Exodus no man can stop Him. He is not going to accept White Supremacist even if they are of African descent. He does His will, and scriptures says that a lot of humans, both Black and White, etc. will be judged for being evil. He is going to reject 90 plus percent of the Black African humans as well as most of this evil world according to scripture and start with the new reproduction. [13] Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: [14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. ST. MATTHEW 7: 13-14. The Arabs are not any more evil than the Original Egyptians, that is just your opinion. However, the governments that people formed was based on White Supremacy and in that, Black governments were just as evil, according to the Bible. The Black versus Black Hatred was evil and is evil and White Supremacist systems exploit that and so, the Creator removed Black kingdoms for this reason. Also, I specifically said, the interpretations are corrupted, you are not understanding what I have written! No. Petroleum does not only mean 'rock oil', it means 'black oil'. The origin of the word name 'Peter' refers to 'Black Rock Oil'; the Anointed rock of God.
Chevdove Posted Wednesday at 01:31 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 01:31 AM The Name Peter Etomology: What is another name for Petroleum? Why Petroleum is referred to as Black Gold? Last Updated : 23 Jul, 2025 Petroleum refers to black gold as crude oil is black in color when they have been extracted from the ground. The quantity of petroleum extracted is small, however, the economic value is huge. Because of the two factors, the price as well as oil, is known as gold, and also finding the same is difficult and the extraction process is also expensive. ... Crude oil is jet black in color before the stages of purification but it turns golden after the process of purification, because of which it is labeled as gold. https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/social-science/why-petroleum-is-referred-to-as-black-gold/ The Name Peter: Meaning & History Derived from Greek Πέτρος (Petros) meaning "stone". https://www.behindthename.com/name/peter A sample of petroleum The Word Petroleum The word petroleum comes from Medieval Latin petroleum (literally 'rock oil'), which comes from Latin petra 'rock' (from Greek pétra πέτρα) and oleum 'oil' (from Greek élaion ἔλαιον).[7][8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum *So here, in this western civilization, the break down on the word 'Petroleum' is connected to the word 'Petra' and 'Petros'. And the breakdown on the word-name Peter has its origin in the word 'Petros' and the word 'stone' [i.e. rock or cephus]. But mostly or never do you see the Bible scholars of this civilization state the obvious origin of the name of Peter! They admit the Bible scripture connecting it to being 'a stone' but never do they expound upon the obvious link to the name of Peter being 'Petros oil', hence Petroleum. LOL. Even in the Black Church is this not revealed. Would be incorrect to assume that most Black Christians have a problem with Colorism? So, even though there are several iconography images of Peter showing him depicted as a dark skinned image, however, Peter was not 'dark skinned', rather, he was 'Black skinned' and there is a distinction.
Chevdove Posted Wednesday at 03:09 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 03:09 PM On 2/15/2026 at 5:53 PM, Pioneer1 said: David was ruddy and Solomon wrote that he was 'a twin' to the Black skinned virgin that he loved. Ruddy means white with tinges of pink or red. Blushing. Propaganda of White Supremacy, @Pioneer1 This is what the scriptures speak of coming from people of African descent born and exploited to be adversaries against the Creator in support of White Domination. This is the prophecy of the Bay and Grisled Horses, that go 'to and fro throughout the earth to deceive the world'. I understand that you believe that David was White with tinges of pink or red! Case close. LOL. I would never attempt to change your mindset. I too am born in America and I too fit the description, at one time, in this very prophecy, as I went to Church and heard part truths and not the whole truth. Nevertheless, let me once again, speak about my physical traits, as an African American woman and DOSC [Descendant of Slave Children] who 'fails the paper bag test in my skin coloring'; I am 'reddish brown' and this was more obvious when I was younger. My pictures from my early birth until years later, shows me with this 'brownish-red' skin tone, and my hair was extremely red, and I had blue eyes that darkened to being a light brown and then years later, they became darker. Several of my cousins have this same skin tone of being reddish-brown or 'Ruddy' on both sides of my family and also they have red hair as well. One of my cousins, we call him 'Red' still has his red Afro. But again, i understand that you continue to define 'ruddy' as being a White person with pink or red skin tone and profess this as if us people of African descent could not have any 'red skin tone'. Even though, in the past, I posted several references about the scientific description of many 'ruddy birds', nevertheless, you still defiantly state that 'ruddy' refers to a White person, and that the Biblical description of David is 'a White man'. Even though the Bible records makes it clear that David had an intense hatred for White Supremacy, most Black folks cannot get past this kind of deception and 'Identity theft' committed by the Anti-Christ in their extracting the color 'brown' present in the word 'ruddy', however, there are so many other references that should reveal this truth. Ruddy Turnstone https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Ruddy_Turnstone/id Ruddy Shelduck Tadorna ferruginea https://birdsoftheworld.org/bow/species/rudshe/cur/introduction?lang=es&media=photos Brown Thrasher The Brown Thrasher (Toxostoma rufum) is a large, slender songbird characterized by its rusty-red (ruddy) upperparts, long tail, and heavily streaked white underparts. Known for their brilliant yellow eyes and long, downward-curved bills, they are common in shrubby habitats across the eastern two-thirds of the United Key Characteristics & Behaviors: Coloration: Cinnamon-red/rufous brown back, head, and tail; white belly with dark streaks. Size: Approximately 9–12 inches in length. ... They are shy, but often visit feeders that offer fruits or insects. They are considered distinct from the Ruddy Turnstone, which is a shorebird. AI overview https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Brown_Thrasher/overview Description The brown thrasher is bright reddish-brown above with thin, dark streaks on its buffy underparts.[13] ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_thrasher
Pioneer1 Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago Chev If you cannot determine the origin of 'original script', @Pioneer1 that is a huge issue because it connects to you not accepting or even understanding the origin of all mankind begins with the Black African humans that formed the first civilizations. Where IS this "original script"? You ask whether or not I can determine the origin of it but have YOU determined the origin of it? Have you read it for yourself or located it? If you cannot accept that the first civilization began byway of African men, then that is why you cannot accept the obvious origin of script would begin with Black Africa. I don't believe civilizations began ON THIS PLANET....let alone tied to one particular continent. You are giving White people credit for the origin of the word 'Genes' and 'Genesis'. Case close. LOL. Facts. Case closed, because "gene" is a European term. You did not experience it first hand. Neither did anyone who told you those stories. The same goes for all history before you were born. I have seen the evidence first hand. I've seen the plantations. I see Black people here who look just like Africans. I've seen the slave shacks. I've seen more evidence to say it DID happen than I've seen evidence to the contrary....lol. GENESIS Chapter 15. OK, let's go........ Genesis 15 1 After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward. 2 And Abram said, Lord GOD, what wilt thou give me, seeing I go childless, and the steward of my house is this Eliezer of Damascus? 3 And Abram said, Behold, to me thou hast given no seed: and, lo, one born in my house is mine heir. 4 And, behold, the word of the LORD came unto him, saying, This shall not be thine heir; but he that shall come forth out of thine own bowels shall be thine heir. 5 And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be. 6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness. 7 And he said unto him, I am the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it. 8 And he said, Lord GOD, whereby shall I know that I shall inherit it? 9 And he said unto him, Take me an heifer of three years old, and a she goat of three years old, and a ram of three years old, and a turtledove, and a young pigeon. 10 And he took unto him all these, and divided them in the midst, and laid each piece one against another: but the birds divided he not. 11 And when the fowls came down upon the carcases, Abram drove them away. 12 And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and, lo, an horror of great darkness fell upon him. 13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years; 14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance. 15 And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age. 16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full. 17 And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces. 18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates: 19 The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, 20 And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims, 21 And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites. Ok, now WHERE in that chapter does it meaning that Egypt will be completely overthrown???? The Bible is written in codes so that many will not understand. Well a "code" is something deceptive and not accurate. It's not what it presents itself to be. So if this is the case, then YOU won't understand it either because anybody who reads it can CLAIM it means whatever they want it to. I cannot change that. The prophet DANIEL wrote that many will never understand scripture. If that's the case, then YOU can't understand it either! What give YOU the right to claim to understand it more than me or anybody else if it's "coded" and sealed by Daniel? Why even possess the book if you can't understand it? If the Creator does not want you to understand, then you won't understand. While this is true, it's also an EXCUSE for a person to interpret the scriptures however THEY see fit and claim they say one thing when they mean another. When it comes to false material, it's not THE CREATOR that's keeping you from understanding it but the fact that it's FALSE, is what's keeping you from understanding it. If it's written plainly and openly, everyone can see what it clearly says and either get on board with it or reject it. But if it's written in codes and symbols and allegories.....any deceiver can manipulate them to mean what THEY want. THE SUPREME BEING is not the author of confusion. I don't believe THE SUPREME BEING would give us a book full of codes and mysteries and confusing metaphors for people to argue over. This is the work of man, meant to confuse people and have them fighting and arguing over religion and dogma while they manipulate them. Also, the prophet Isaiah as well, stated that judgment period [i.e. Judgement Day] will last for a thousand years. It's 'a Day for a Year' prophecy. More confusion. A day for a year is NOT TRUE. I'm not saying it doesn't say that....I'm saying it's not true that a day = a year. It's a false statement. This is promoting falsehood and confusion. THE SUPREME BEING doesn't support or provide human beings with false statements....whether you want to call them "codes" or "interpretations" or whatever. The New World will not be completely formed until after 'a time and a season', that is how Daniel wrote it. More confusion. A time and seasons could mean a lot of things. It's a way of claiming something will happen without giving a date so that you can't confront them on it NOT happening. This is not DIVINE work...it's the work of man. about the formation of the New World. This is a repetitive 'timed appointed prophecy' as 'the Crusades' marks a past time when this has already occurred. The Crusades began after A.D. 1090 and thus began the so-called 'Christian Movement' back into Jerusalem to fight against the Muslims and Jews for control over 'the Middle East' and etc. The book of Daniel says NOTHING about this. This is taking history and INCORPORATING IT in with Biblical scripture to make it fit. There are people who took World War 1 and did the same thing with IT that you're doing with the Crusades. Others who took the Gulf War in Iraq and did the same. See how this works Chev? People just taking scriptures and MAKING them fit any scenario THEY desire. Any war....any plague....any major event can be taken and made to FIT in with some Biblical scripture if you want it to. But despite all of these things happening.....the Kingdom hasn't been established yet...that's the point. But you do know that Europeans do get 'leprosy'!? Light skinned humans do get leprosy. In fact, leprosy more commonly affects lighter skinned humans, no matter if they are light skinned Negroes or White Europeans First of all, what is referred to in the Bible is NOT leprosy. Leprosy is an ENGLISH word that was used in the translation. The original Hebrew word was "tzaraat" and referred to 2 different conditions: psoriasis and vitiligo I said the King James Version, and specifically did not say anything about him. When Black people continued to obsess over White Idols, the Creator allowed them to be governed as such. Is that true, or is that accusing THE CREATOR of something that is NOT true? If the White people are evil too, then why would THE CREATOR use THEM as his tools or agents? Think about that? Why use MORE evil people to punish the "chosen" people????? That doesn't make a lot of sense when you think about it. The fact is White people were able to take advantage of a lot of darker people because they had better technology....plain and simple. It had little to do with one being "good" and the other being "bad" or some Divine punishment for idolatry. These are EXCUSES people use to justify why they got conquered instead of simply admitting that White folks out smarted them. So, as the Book of DANIEL states 'a time, times, and a half of times' humans are under White governments, but he never said any one government was headed up by a perfect human. That is why he sent His Son, Jesus. And He will have to come again because mankind has proven that if he does not come back, we are in trouble. The Creator judges the world at times by HIMSELF as He did during the time of the Exodus no man can stop Him. He is not going to accept White Supremacist even if they are of African descent. You can't say that if those who believe in White Supremacist ideology are running the world! They ARE running much of the world...so what do you mean they won't be "accepted"?????? They're BEING accepted! The Arabs are not any more evil than the Original Egyptians, that is just your opinion. They killed and enslaved more people than the original Black people of Kemet. That's a historical fact. Again, why would the Divine take one evil empire and replace it with another? Again, more people trying to justify why Black kingdoms fell and got taken over by non-Blacks. Instead of admitting that they got out smarted and we need to try better....too many of us want to "blame the victims" and claim it was a divine punishment that those kingdoms fell. Well look at America and Europe....... They promote homosexuality and now you have the Epstein files!!! So why are THEY still ruling? Why haven't THEY been replaced by African or Chinese governments where that type of sexual deviance isn't tolerated?
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