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19 hours ago, ProfD said:

So far, zero fatalities have been reported in the city where I live.😎


That's because YOU live in Wakanda.
 

That place where all of the Black people are living large and lavish....lol.
 

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On 2/7/2026 at 8:39 AM, Pioneer1 said:

That's because YOU live in Wakanda.
 

That place where all of the Black people are living large and lavish....lol.

I'm definitely not living in Wakanda but it is a very nice spot overall.😁😎

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In.  This.  Rich.  Country.  People.  Live. In. Poverty.  Some.  Of. The. Homeless.  Live. In.  Tents.....By.  The. .street. ....Politicians.   Do. Not.   Care.  About.  Those   Who. Live. In. Poverty.   Or.   Homeless.  In.  The. Streets.  ..Preachers.   Worship.   Money.  ..Preachers.   Will. Buy.  A.  New. Car ...From.  Stealing.  All. The.  Church.  Money. .......Where. Is.  Black.  Lives. Matter. ?

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On 2/9/2026 at 12:20 PM, ProfD said:

I'm definitely not living in Wakanda but it is a very nice spot overall.😁😎


There seems to be 2 Black Americas:

-One affected by crime, poverty, familial dysfunction, and illegal immigration
-The other....wealthy, healthy, well educated, good jobs, plenty of leisure time to enjoy themselves, and not bothered or threatened by immigration at all and confused at what the argument is even over

I've SEEN wealthy and well to do Black communities in the Detroit, Atlanta, D.C. and Atlanta area but I'm not exactly sure what they're doing to maintain this oasis of peace and prosperity.

Maybe to go school and get a good education and stay out of trouble.
But millions of AfroAmericans have TRIED that.....it doesn't always work.
Yet there are millions of AfroAmericans who have that "magic touch" where they bath in peace and prosperity regardless as to the economic conditions around the nation.

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2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Yet there are millions of AfroAmericans who have that "magic touch" where they bath in peace and prosperity regardless as to the economic conditions around the nation.

Right. For Black men especially it takes some combination of intelligence, talent, preparation, discipline, grit, determination,  adaptability & survivability to be successful.😎

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I've been seeing this since I was a teenager.
Especially in the workforce.


Some Black folks seem to be "immune" to racism and the other social problems that affect other Black people.

The boss can be racist as hell and the co-workers can make all kinds of racist comments and discriminate...yet THEY can just come in, do their work, and nobody bothers them or antagonizes them.

It doesn't appear to be anything THEY are doing, because many other Black people have tried the same thing but racists will TARGET them or set them up to be fired.
The racist often times won't LET you come in and do your job or just go to school and get your education.
That's what racists do....they fuck up your program.
If they didn't and it was easy to avoid....it wouldn't be a problem.

Yet some Black folks seem to not even be on the radar.


Sometimes I wonder if some of these "magical negroes" are just illusions or phantoms designed to confuse you and make you wonder "why them"????

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@Pioneer1

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

There seems to be 2 Black Americas:

-One affected by crime, poverty, familial dysfunction, and illegal immigration
-The other....wealthy, healthy, well educated, good jobs, plenty of leisure time to enjoy themselves, and not bothered or threatened by immigration at all and confused at what the argument is even over

I've SEEN wealthy and well to do Black communities in the Detroit, Atlanta, D.C. and Atlanta area but I'm not exactly sure what they're doing to maintain this oasis of peace and prosperity.

Maybe to go school and get a good education and stay out of trouble.
But millions of AfroAmericans have TRIED that.....it doesn't always work.
Yet there are millions of AfroAmericans who have that "magic touch" where they bath in peace and prosperity regardless as to the economic conditions around the nation.

There has always been at least 2 tribes of Black people in the usa. When the usa was founded in the white european colonial phase of the usa, even though ninety to ninety five percent of black people were enslaved completely whites, ten to five percent of black people were free, owned businesses, was an employed laborer. 

You know this already. 

A black business owner fought alongside washington and company, was imprisoned by england for fighting for the usa to be, and survived and went back to his successful business.Some Black whalers in the new england states owned their own boats. The whites of marth's vineyard were some of the earliest abolitionist and the black populace in martha's vineyard grew as a result. Zora Neale Hurston grew in northern florida not far from Rosewood yet her black town was idyllic for her albeit, surrounded by white criminals. Armstrong Williams who grew up in South Carolina and whose relative was murdered by whites said he never dealt with white bias growing up on their tobacco farm. I myself admitted a happy childhood. My life wasn't affected by crime or fiscal poverty or dysfunctions in the home or immigrants whether legal or illegal but the biggest criminals where i lived was the local nypd precinct which was known, by everyone [black non black, paraplegic, athetist, christian, man , woman ] in this part of nyc for being dirty to the core. Drug dealers/extorionist/pimps all nypd officers and any nypd officer in that precinct who didn't aid them or help was an illegal actor through abetting, cause every nypd agent in there had to know.  as for poverty, well, in my experience, most black people in this extended part of harlem , worked for a living, tried to find jobs, in a city that is not black, is not controlled. and I nor my particular place of rearing never had a problem with black immigrants so... 

 

And don't forget in your list of well to do black regions, two of the biggest is in los angeles and new york city. You atlanta/dc/ detroit. The black one percent region in los angles or New york city is very wealthy, financially. more than any other. 

 

And your wrong, you and everyone black know why a minority of black people have maintained financial success? The same reason modern fiscally black wealthy regions exists is the same as in the past, luck + white people allow it.

The luck part is the truth of fiscal capitalism, which you know. 90% of all business, in all demographics fail. This is a simple truth. 90% of nonblack business fail. 90% of black business fail. 90% of mens business fail. 90% of womens business fail. Maybe you have the following belief, but education is not power, education does not mean you will succeed in a business. Education does not mean you will not be enslaved. The elder Rockefeller whose clan has a whole business complex named after them downtown new york city was a failed business man. He had one oil field that was not producing, living in a little shack. how did his clan get that prominance? education? no , power? no... Andrew Carnegie , the steel baron, who was uneducated as a child, and rowed people over the water between the buroughs as a child, which is illegal today, wanted to save money on shipping his steel and so he sought to consolidate the oil industry, which at that time, was extremely fragmented and had no internal ability to manage itself for more efficiency. Carnegie who owed no one, was not controlled, invited various oil men and chose carnegie, who from a fiscal perspective was the weakest. Carnegie chose Rockefeller because Rockefeller was the poorest, least qualified. Carnegie knew whomever he supported would dominate the oil industry, but carnegie wanted to dominate the steel even more and so Carnegie got what he wanted and Rockefeller got lucky, and with the path of luck, the rest is history.  But it was luck. Rockefeller has no bargaining power, he had nothing. Everything was in carnegie's favor, carnegie simply gave blessing. Like Oprah winfrey's book club and similar actions by michelle obama or others. They say an artist has value and a millions dollars in twenty four hours occurs. Starbucks didn't have the money to start up, Bill gates and others gave money to them, through connections. again, no one was forced. What role did education have in Rockefeller's relationship with Carnegie? Oprah Winfrey's relationship with various writers in her book club? Gates relationship with Starbucks? 

White people allow it, is the other part, which you already know? again, what crimes or illegalities did Black Tulsa or Rosewood do? Unless you mean the unwritten crime of being black and having white neighbors who want to kill any happiness you have, which is most of black people in the usa historically. what fiscal poverty did Black Tulsa or Rosewood have? arguably they were fiscally wealthier than their white neighbors who terrorized them out of existence. From the surviving accounts most black people in Black Tulsa or Rosewood were happy in their homes, but that didn't prevent their destruction.  and lastly, immigrants as defined by those coming to the usa from outside weren't the ones who annihilated black tulsa/rosewood/ black bronx [that was white jewish/italian/irish landowners in the bronx] /black new orleans/ and the millions of black towns or regions of white cities annihilated by whites into a complete reboot absent any provocation by blacks. 

 

The mystery to how certain Blacks live in a  positive black pool in the united states of america, isn't a mystery, each is founded on fiscal luck + white allowance. The sad part is blacks like you keep thinking fiscal luck + white allowance is something that can be engineered or planned in some machiavellan way. For me what is sad is what I comprehend. So many black people in the united states of america or the european colonies it was born from, are so willing to see the usa in a positive light, that they only way they can rationalize black success is to keep trying to find a magical way a black person can make it happen, and treat it like a strategy insteead of admitting what historically continually shows. You mention fiscally wealthy black detroit or black atlanta or black district of columbia. When the all white counties around Detroit city, block black people or when said places residents harm black people, fiscally wealthy black detroit is willing to live with it. When the murdering white counties around atlanta, that graves filled with black people are still being found in, harm black people fiscally wealthy black atlanta is willing to live with that. I know too many black people from D.C. , the white populace of D.C. in my view is notoriously anti black. But wealthy black D.C. in prince george county and elsewhere is willing to live with that. 

But not everybody black want to have white terror as a neighbor. What is comprehending that some unknown magic ? You have made it clear, the usa is your home, and the history of black people fighting for the usa is true from the usa's very founding... but you have to comprehend, black people fought for the usa not to exists at its very founding, as well. So maybe if you expand your comprehension of the black populace in the usa you will realize how complex black peoples relationship with the usa or the non blacks in it is, and thus nothing is incomprehensible, from black presidents to black people living off grid. 

 

@ProfD 

4 hours ago, ProfD said:

Right. For Black men especially it takes some combination of intelligence, talent, preparation, discipline, grit, determination,  adaptability & survivability to be successful.😎

Well... I have to break up types of success when i speak of success. Financial success for black people, male or female or young or old in the usa, is all that you say. You need intelligence because fiscal capitalism breeds tricksters, you need talent especially as most blacks don't have money or access to money historically when they attempt things, preparation is good but levels of preparation are blockaded only the wealthiest can truly be prepared completely in fiscal capitalsim, discipline or grit or determination or survivability all are elements of purpose , a black person's purpose must be strong in the usa historically, 1492 to 1865 age of enslavement had black business owners who had to survive white people trying to entrap them legally, since black enslavement was legal, so free blacks were legally able to be enslaved. so your correct:) you need all the elements of purpose in that environment. 1865 to 1980 was jim crow which was literally about restricting/diminishing/stopping all black positive activity in every city or county or state since, the federal level deemed black people citizens now so white power could only operate through the state level and below. So yes, black people needed elements of purpose to survive an environment where they are citizens but every city/county/state they are in has an environment totally designed to make their life miserable, like being put in jail for walking on the left side of the street on sunday. And a black person need adaptibility in said enslavement or jim crow eras because both eras whole point is a black persons enslavement or destruction or goading into prison. Financial success needs the factors you mention, especially for blacks in the usa. Though I admit, in the post jim crow,1980 to today, as white people have finally stopped the stifling anti back behavior, black growth has blossomed, inevitably,  at a faster rate than ever before. But black growth in the usa started in 1980, but 1492 or 1776 or 1865 

But the success of the home, a positive home life, doesn't require all of those things for black people in the usa. It requires first love, which is not common  in human homes in general, it requires patience. And is easier today in the post jim crow era. Unlike enslavement, where black homes didn't exist [ the slave quarter is not a home, a home can't exist for a person who can be sold at any moment n the leisure of another ], or jim crow, where black homes were under constant attack [between white states or white cities that used eminnent domain on entire black regions or cities or black towns , white businesses supported by white city or state governments abusing black customers or clients , white individuals or groups supported by white city or state governments committing acts of terror/assault from murder to harassment on black individuals or groups] on all aspects of life, the modern era, i will call post jim crow, 1980 to today, is the first time black homes don't have to deal with white overwhelming terror. So even though a negative heritage froom 1492 to 1980 has to be slowly ebbed out, black people's homes I argue are doing well, for such a negative legacy that they was imposed on them by the non black. 

 

But I think success financially is not the success of the home. 

 

@Pioneer1

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Some Black folks seem to be "immune" to racism and the other social problems that affect other Black people.

it isn't , if you read my original segment to you in this post, then you realize the word is uncaring. History has as fat that some, a small minority of black people, were willing to fight alongside whites who publicly admitted they felt every black person should be enslaved. so is it so hard to see that that same minority, scale up for population growth over time, is willing to live alongside whites as positively, with whites in modernity on average being far less terrible to black people than their forebears.  But, like in the past, did most blacks have the willingness to live alongside whites? NO! did most free blacks? no... rememebr , in the second white european global imperial war, commonly called erroneously world war two, black newspapers in majority wanted to tell black people to stay out of any positive engagement to that war... but white powers, had a meeting and the V's were up. Most black people in the usa before 1980 at the least, have always been anti USA or anti white but that never meant all black people. 

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

That's what racists do....they fuck up your program.

sometimes they murder you too... death does stop alot of programs. 

 

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Sometimes I wonder if some of these "magical negroes" are just illusions or phantoms designed to confuse you and make you wonder "why them"????

well... I have asked the following in the past and I realize it will never happen, for as a black woman replied then, you want the world to fall. But, I think what can help your query is revealing how many black people were agents of the three letter folk from 1940s to today. I am 100% certain if the names of every black agent to the cia/fbi/or other similar was revealed it would expose connections to alot of black people with money today, if not them, black benefactors to them. I have proof of nothing, but I know of four things, two for a fact and two through an unconfirmed source. 

The two facts

- a bodyguard to malcolm x was an agent

- an associate to fred hampton was an agent

The two unconfirmed, I wish I could prove, but I believe

- the three letter people infiltrated every single organization in the usa, every single organization

-the three letter people killed more people since 1980 than any government army

 

These four things if the unconfirmed two are true, lead to an inevitable reality. That all populaces in the usa have a corrupt one percent , a minority of wealthy , whose crimes against their own have never been admitted or revealed but has protected them from white power cause they are agents of white power. 

Again, I can't prove anything so as per the USA and its law room culture, absent proof, the ignorant/hopeful can be allowed to believe in better. 

 

In Amendment

I think of the Vietnam war documentary from ken burns in PBS. Vietnam war ended circa 1974  so that is fifty two years ago, over half a century, over two generations or twenty years, and yet, redactions/crossouts were still needed on content? why? agents in vietnam? working for the usa? or maybe people whose wealth in vietnam came from agents working for the usa? I wonder what some people in vietnam would do if others in vietnam were revealed to be agents to the usa? I wonder. .... 

 

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richardmurray

 


There has always been at least 2 tribes of Black people in the usa. When the usa was founded in the white european colonial phase of the usa, even though ninety to ninety five percent of black people were enslaved completely whites, ten to five percent of black people were free, owned businesses, was an employed laborer. 

You know this already. 

 

Lol.....
Thanks for reminding me.

 

 

 

 

 

And don't forget in your list of well to do black regions, two of the biggest is in los angeles and new york city. You atlanta/dc/ detroit. The black one percent region in los angles or New york city is very wealthy, financially. more than any other. 

 

I know New York harbors a large wealthy Black population, but outside of entertainers like athletes and actors....where is the large Black wealth in Los Angeles?

 

Perhaps it was the circles I was in but the few times I went to Los Angeles, the majority of Black folks I saw there were living the street life.  Either homeless or criminals.
There were a few wealthy Black lawyers and doctors but the overwhelming majority of wealthy Black folks I saw in LA were in the entertainment industry and despite what you see on television, they make up only a tiny part of Los Angeles' population.
Most of the Black folks there were on or in the streets.
Or locked up.


Detroit, Atlanta, and D.C. each have more Black people with good jobs and moderate wealth than Los Angeles has.
Although the Black wealthy in Los Angeles probably have a much higher per capita income because they tend to be entertainers instead of corporate and government workers.

 

 


 

 

 The sad part is blacks like you keep thinking fiscal luck + white allowance is something that can be engineered or planned in some machiavellan way. For me what is sad is what I comprehend. So many black people in the united states of america or the european colonies it was born from, are so willing to see the usa in a positive light, that they only way they can rationalize black success is to keep trying to find a magical way a black person can make it happen, and treat it like a strategy insteead of admitting what historically continually shows. You mention fiscally wealthy black detroit or black atlanta or black district of columbia. When the all white counties around Detroit city, block black people or when said places residents harm black people, fiscally wealthy black detroit is willing to live with it. When the murdering white counties around atlanta, that graves filled with black people are still being found in, harm black people fiscally wealthy black atlanta is willing to live with that. I know too many black people from D.C. , the white populace of D.C. in my view is notoriously anti black. But wealthy black D.C. in prince george county and elsewhere is willing to live with that. 

 

What other LOGICAL and VIABLE choice do these Black enclaves have BUT to live with it?

 

 

 

 

 

In Amendment

I think of the Vietnam war documentary from ken burns in PBS. Vietnam war ended circa 1974  so that is fifty two years ago, over half a century, over two generations or twenty years, and yet, redactions/crossouts were still needed on content? why? agents in vietnam? working for the usa? or maybe people whose wealth in vietnam came from agents working for the usa? I wonder what some people in vietnam would do if others in vietnam were revealed to be agents to the usa? I wonder. .... 

 

Since....unlike Black America....they are a relatively sovereign nation, they can do with them as they please.

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As a result of the Vietnam war, there's a whole lot of Vietnamese Americans in the USA. 

 

War is big business. A lot of wealth is generated & transferred as a result of it.😎

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