Pioneer1 Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 For you Bible believers out there (and you know who you are...lol), when you read about someone being called a "son of man" in the Old Testament. When you read that term in the original Hebrew or Aramaic....it literally means the "son of Adam". Why is this important? The Hebrew word for man (mature male) is "ish" The Hebrew word for humanity is "inoshut" Adam doesn't mean "man" nor does it man "humanity".....it's a SPECIFIC TYPE of person. 1
Chevdove Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 @Pioneer1 Okay. I gotcha. Lol. 10 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: For you Bible believers out there (and you know who you are...lol), 10 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Adam doesn't mean "man" nor does it man "humanity".....it's a SPECIFIC TYPE of person. I guess the most important input from me would be that, when it comes to ancient script, whether it is from ancient Egyptian records, ancient Sumerian, ancient Chinese, ... the Linear B script, Ugarit, etc. all of it must be confirmed with science. What mean is that certain words are 'anchors' and must be confirmed with the planet earth and also 'the sky'. For this reason, it doesn't matter whether the words are translated from cuneiform script, Arabic script, Egyptian hieroglyphs, etc., all translations go back to some origin. so then, when it comes to terms like 'Son of Man' or 'Adam', the meanings have an origin but over time, the meaning may vary so therefore, you need to look at 'the context' of the whole sentence or phrase, or subject. I can absolutely agree in that 'Son of Man' would correlate to the word 'Adam' however, both of these terms carry a huge volume of other meanings and must be understood based on the context. The name 'Adam' is defined in the Bible [KJV] for meaning, I think, 'servant of God' [I can't remember for sure]. However, this name carries a whole lot of other word origins and meanings too. In most modern translations, for example, the ancient letter 'h' has been omitted from so many ancient words and this is insanely crucial to understand the significance in the past as opposed to today. Today, that letter may not mean much, but eventually, it will probably surface again and shed much more information about how ancient mankind regarded themselves in terms of being 'a spiritual being' as well as a physical being. The ancient word 'Adam' in some text would have been written as 'Adham' or 'Ahdama' or 'Adamah', and etc. The Biblical name of Seth, the third son of Adam and Chevah [Eve] is also spelled 'Sheth' in the Bible. The name 'Japheth' is sometimes spelled 'Yapheth'. Shem is sometimes spelled 'Sem' and Ham is sometimes spelled 'Cham', etc. But in the Cuneiform script or the Egyptian hieroglyph script, I have no idea how it was translated to Arabic script and the letter 'h' was represented in those scripts. For this reason, scholars who translate ancient script would apply ancient script to the earth and some form of scientific confirmation. So then, the name 'Adam' would also be defined not only as meaning 'Son of Man' or 'Servant of God' but, it would also be defined more complete as meaning 'blood red' in association to the science of 'color' and to the planet earth, as Adam was created from 'the dust of the earth' so says the Bible. The name 'Cham' would also be defined in association to 'Kemet' or 'Khem' or 'Cham' in association to 'black earth' in the region of Kemet in the land of Egypt and Northeast Africa. The name 'Seth' would also be defined in association to 'Ra' or 'the sun' and in ancient script, this name correlated to 'the South world' or 'Seth world'. The name 'Japheth' correlates to the word 'Ja-Petah' or 'Ptah' and 'Egypetah', 'Gupta', etc. and also correlated to 'black earth' or Egypt. The name 'Shem' correlated to 'Sem priest' or 'Second born of the priesthood' and also 'Semet' and as a descendant of Seth, like the name 'Japheth' it was actually a title and not the personal name of the Biblical sons of Noah. The personal names of the sons of Noah reveal another deeper level to who these ancient men actually defined. Like most men, their sons were named after their ancestors. So the eldest son, the high priest of Ptah, Japheth, personal or 'Seth name' was 'Kim' and for this reason, many people of the east world, past and present still have this name. You see this name 'Kim' in many people from Korea and the ancient 'Eskimos' and 'Yakima' and etc. Ancient Egypt also has this root name 'Kim' as well. The personal or 'Seth name' for the second son of Noah was how the son of David was identified as this personal went down through the ages. David's son, the Jedi [i.e. Jedidiah] was known as 'Solomon' and his name stems from the personal name of Shem which was Selah [i.e. Salah, Shelah, etc.]. Noah named Shem, after his ancestor; Methuselah and this name refers to 'Peace' or 'Peacemaker'. The youngest son of Noah, Ham, was named after his father; Lamech [i.e. Mech, reverse script Chem]. The name 'Lamech' refers to 'Mecca' or Technology and Ham was defined by this name in association to being 'a Great Builder', etc. And there is another 'scientific revelation' that most Black Christian ignore; All three of the sons were actually identical!!! This would be a huge genetic factor that today's scholar know well, but due to White Supremacy, this is kept secret. Even today, the highest rate of identical twins are from Yoruba, and this would be due to the genetics of the Original Adamah of Kemet!!! So then, all three sons of Noah [i.e. Canoe, Noe, etc.] had Seth names, Kim, Salah, and Lamech. But the time lines shows that they were born in captivity and therefore, they identified by a 'Ca name' such as 'Canoe' as well. Personally, I think that Noah's Seth name was 'Imhotep' because of the exact match in the timelines. However, I have as yet to find a confirmation from anyone else!!! Imhotep build the Great Steppe Pyramid during the time of pharaoh Djoser and that was the exact time that Noah would have been living in Egypt! How else did Noah know how to construct a massive vessel, if he had not been living in Egypt!? Imhotep was the high priest of Djoser and that is exactly what Noah was as well. He was the Most high priest of the living God and he was a master lecturer. He had to have learned those skills in Egypt and he had to have been a master of working with wood and therefore knew how to used 'Cedar wood' [i.e. Gopher wood; Copher wood Coffin wood] or some type of rot resistant wood to construct the massive vessel. So, this name 'Adam' and the phrase 'Son of Man' has to be regarded in context of whatever script or passage that uses it. The term 'Son of Man' refers to 'Jesus Christ' in the New Testament: [3] And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? [4] And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. [5] For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. [6] And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. [29] Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: [30] And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. ST MATTHEW 24:3- 6, and, 24: 29-30. So, the 'Sign' refers to astronomical date that Biblical Jesus was born of which was scientifically marked byway of an astronomical wonder; the advent of a new star that moved into our solar system. The 'Sign of the Son of Man' means 'the Star of Bethlehem' that Moving Star that came into our Solar System on April 17 about 2000 years ago. So this scripture refers to a prophecy of what has been prophesied to happen immediately after the Tribulation Period. And due to the atmosphere being affected by what some scholars believe will be some type of Ice Age existence due to a Volcanic Winter, the earth will experience some type of climate or heavy cloud coverage that will block the sun for a long time. But when the atmosphere changes and the stars become visible again, then, the planets will be seen again and so, this particular 'Moving star' will move to be near the moon and it will be a sign that the Tribulation Period will come to an end. And so, a long time ago, the ancient Africans and American Indians knew how to look at the stars, planets, etc. and read the skies and could predict certain events, but today, most of us Black folks have been dumbed down and have no clue how to read the skies. All in all, the phrase 'Son of Man' in the New Testament refers to a descendant Adam and Eve, of which would be Jesus Christ, therefore, it makes a whole lot of sense that the term 'Son of Man' would mean 'Adam' but again, a deeper meaning must be understood and todays 'White Jews' or Hebrew translations do not go that deep. Black people need to understand that the ancient scriptures have been misinterpreted and a lot of what we are getting is part-truths; Blasphemy. 10 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: The Hebrew word for man (mature male) is "ish" I've seen this too. A lot of American Indians in the Northwest regions of America are identified by that word; Ishy or something like that. So I understand this version of humans with this name 'Ishtar', 'Isis', 'Israel', 'Ishmael', etc. Also, the words and names like 'Island', 'Isthmus', 'Sus' as in 'Jesus', 'Susquehanna', 'Susan', 'Shushan', Mississippi', etc. refer to 'water'. The root term in correlation with the planet earth defines mankind as being in connection to 'water'. Humans are most made up of 90% water, I think that is what scientist report.
Pioneer1 Posted March 14 Author Report Posted March 14 Chev I guess the most important input from me would be that, when it comes to ancient script, whether it is from ancient Egyptian records, ancient Sumerian, ancient Chinese, ... the Linear B script, Ugarit, etc. all of it must be confirmed with science. What mean is that certain words are 'anchors' and must be confirmed with the planet earth and also 'the sky'. For this reason, it doesn't matter whether the words are translated from cuneiform script, Arabic script, Egyptian hieroglyphs, etc., all translations go back to some origin. I don't understand this part. Why do you say all translations go back to the "same origin"??? The name 'Adam' is defined in the Bible [KJV] for meaning, I think, 'servant of God' [I can't remember for sure]. The word Adam (from the word "dm" which means "blood") literally means one of two things: OF BLOOD or LIKE BLOOD Red or reddish White people aren't actually white in color but rather pink and in the Middle East they are usually red from the heat. However, this name carries a whole lot of other word origins and meanings too. In most modern translations, for example, the ancient letter 'h' has been omitted from so many ancient words and this is insanely crucial to understand the significance in the past as opposed to today. Today, that letter may not mean much, but eventually, it will probably surface again and shed much more information about how ancient mankind regarded themselves in terms of being 'a spiritual being' as well as a physical being. The ancient word 'Adam' in some text would have been written as 'Adham' or 'Ahdama' or 'Adamah', and etc. But Adamah is a different word than Adam Adamah means ground or dirt. Some say it means "red ground" or "red dirt". But it's a different word than Adam The Biblical name of Seth, the third son of Adam and Chevah [Eve] is also spelled 'Sheth' in the Bible. The name 'Japheth' is sometimes spelled 'Yapheth'. Shem is sometimes spelled 'Sem' and Ham is sometimes spelled 'Cham', etc. Correct. One of the reasons for this is because as you know in Hebrew for a long time the VOWELS weren't written in words. Only the constantans. So when those who weren't familiar with HEARING the Hebrew words being pronounced would write them....they'd pronounce them the way THEY thought they were pronounced instead of the actually way the ancients pronounced them. The name 'Cham' would also be defined in association to 'Kemet' or 'Khem' or 'Cham' in association to 'black earth' in the region of Kemet in the land of Egypt and Northeast Africa. The name 'Seth' would also be defined in association to 'Ra' or 'the sun' and in ancient script, this name correlated to 'the South world' or 'Seth world'. The name 'Japheth' correlates to the word 'Ja-Petah' or 'Ptah' and 'Egypetah', 'Gupta', etc. and also correlated to 'black earth' or Egypt. The name was originally Yapet but became Yapeth, Yapheth, Japeth and it's also where the word JUPITER comes from. It's the name of a planet today, but it came from the Roman high deity Jupiter. There is reason to believe that Yapeth...being a descendant of Noah....when he went West to establish the cultures and nations of Europe like Rome and Greece....being a founding father of ancient Rome he was deified as Jupiter. So, this name 'Adam' and the phrase 'Son of Man' has to be regarded in context of whatever script or passage that uses it. The term 'Son of Man' refers to 'Jesus Christ' in the New Testament: The problem with the New Testament is that there is reason to believe that much of it has not only mistranslated but actually MADE UP. The New Testament was written by Greek and Jewish scholars trained in Greek, many of them didn't even know the original meanings behind the words and terms you find in the Old Testament themselves. So they didn't accurately translate them and in many cases applied a totally different understanding to them. The term "son of man" used in the book of Daniel and Ezekiel....which again really means "child of Adam" is often used as a RACIAL distinction between the descendants of Adam (red man or white man) and the rest of the population of that region who were brown skinned. Ezekiel was referred to as "son of man" Ezekiel 2: 1 "And he said unto me, Son of man, stand upon thy feet, and I will speak unto thee." Daniel said he saw one who LOOKED LIKE a "son of man" approaching the Ancient of Days Daniel 7: 13 " I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him." The meaning these men used for that term was clearly different than the understanding most Christians have of it today.
Chevdove Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 21 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: White people aren't actually white in color but rather pink and in the Middle East they are usually red from the heat. My stating 'blood red' has nothing to do with white people. The earth is 'black' no matter what other minerals or colors are in it in certain regions. When the astronauts step on the moon, they were amazed do to this very reason. The entire earth's crust is black and certain mineral deposits like iron in some regions show a presence of other colors such as 'blood red'. You continue to try and insert white supremacy into black communities and this is what I am referring to about the prophecy of the Bay and Grisled Horse. Black people of African descent do not need that kind of confusion. All script goes back to one origin and can be confirmed with the earth or the sky; astronomy. The letter 'Y' was added thousands of years later and replaced 'the letter J'in some ancient script and based on dates and times of ancient script, all words go back to a specific time period and when they were used in script. The 'letter Y' would be a replacement letter and must be regarded in context of the words they are used. For example; Asshur Shem was born under a specific date but later descendants may be scripted as being 'Shurians', 'the land of Shur', 'Syrians', 'Asshur', or 'Assyrians', etc. and they each have a specific meaning.
Chevdove Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 On 3/14/2026 at 9:48 AM, Pioneer1 said: The meaning these men used for that term was clearly different than the understanding most Christians have of it today. The Western World has confused many, however, like the very scripture and book that you are referencing, the prophet Daniel wrote that, due to the Black civilizations obsessing over White Idolatry, the Creator gave us over to White domination for 'a time, times and a half of times'. Therefore, it is the White empire governments today that have the chance to either correct sin or ignore it. When they set up on the backs of Black-on-Black Hatred and allow this type of violence to go unchecked, they will be judged for it completely. Likewise, the Creator will not allow, me, a Black woman to correct the priesthood ultimately, however, it will have to be other Black men. Like Jesus said, because he came, Black men would be persecuted no matter if you believe in him or not. Black kings turned their backs on their own governments, their women and their children, and pat each other on the back and allowed abuse to occur and so, White Domination took over. And so, today, many of us are dealing captivity right now, until we get it right. We all have to agree ultimate and that will probably take a thousand years in order to achieve that goal. God will judge the Church first according to scripture and so, due to the July 4th, and the Separation of Church and State, well, a lot of White Christians will need to come forth and fight for truth when it comes to White Supremacy and Colorism. And one of their most insane issues would be their idols that they have erected all over the world of 'the Messiah' in White face and then telling and preaching that it doesn't matter what color Jesus is in reality. That is their ultimate blasphemy. Truth is universal, no matter what color we are. We are all one in Christ. This scripture, 'we are all one in Christ' I believe, has been mis-interpreted to be incorrectly thought of as 'we are all one human race'. That is a confusion. But after Jesus came the first time and had nothing to do with the Romans and their government because of their being Separatist, well, many Gentiles came to the light and fought for the Church to be established during the time of the First Roman Empire. But due to White Supremacy, many of us have been confused. Nevertheless, as I have said, in the New Testament, the phrase 'Son of Man' refers to Jesus Christ. As you have written in connection with Adam, 'Son of Man' means 'a descendant of Adam'and so, yes, Ezekiel did also reference himself on this wise. However, again, as i have said, in the New Testament reference I shared, it referred to 'Jesus Christ'. On 3/14/2026 at 9:48 AM, Pioneer1 said: Daniel said he saw one who LOOKED LIKE a "son of man" approaching the Ancient of Days Daniel 7: 13 " I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him." That would be the exact same prophecy that Jesus gave some 500 years later after Daniel wrote it. This refers to Jesus, himself as being 'the Son of Man' coming with clouds, etc. after the Tribulation era. Anyway, here are some references. I tried to find a youtube Short video of an African American preacher. The second video reference is a little long, but he's an African American preacher and I am listening to him now and so far he is doing an awesome job. So anyway, here are three (3) references for this topic. The 'Son of Man' refers to Jesus Christ, and 'the Ancient of Days' refers to the Creator, God Almighty: AI Overview In Daniel 7, the Ancient of Days (God the Father) is the eternal Judge sitting on a fiery throne, while the "one like a Son of Man" (Jesus Christ) is a heavenly figure arriving on clouds to receive everlasting dominion and authority. It depicts a divine transfer of power from the chaotic earthly beast kingdoms to an eternal, heavenly kingdom ***** Daniel Prophesies the Son of Man | Daniel 7:9-14 ***** Just Teach Ministries **** This video will not embed **** https://youtu.be/btWeweQtrNk
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