Colorism And Reversing The Anti-Black Programming

[Pioneer1]

 

Interesting discussion from back in the day.......
 

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It seems as if back in those days @Troy held the same observations I do.

[aka Contrarian]

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

It's hard to believe nobody else on here thinks dark skinned Black people need have been victims of colorism and need extra attention to help uplift them.

First of all, that's an assumption on your part.  Secondly, a lot of your patronizing pity is probably drawn from anecdotal feed back .

In your narrative, as usual, you designate who the good and bad guys are, never broaching on the subject of the dark skin folks who bullied others based on their different skin color or obesity, or for being 4-eyed or having buck teeth, or being sissified or mentally retarded. This was part of my growing up observations.

You're soooo busy trying to portray yourself as the Patron Saint of people who should  be praised for overcoming discrimination and going on to excel. But that doesn't fit in your game plan

[Pioneer1]

frankster

 

Where did I say not support any one or group of peoples?

I have always said supporty all Equally by Making available and accessible all forms of Promotion...thereby creaty Equity and parity

When  you said you'd support EVERYBODY....that really means you WON'T support Black people.

Because when you uplift everybody at the same time, you simply maintain the IMBALANCE.

Giving EVERYBODY Reparations.
 

It's like a doctor telling a man to keep one of his legs elevated, so in response he gets on an elevator and rides it up to the top floor.
What's the point of raising your leg if you're going to raise the rest of you body along with it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Did you not say to focus on Medium?

 

I said medium, dark brown, and black.

 

 

 

 

Ha Ha...so funny....you must be a clown or comedian

 

Would you believe me if I told you I write for Chris Rock?

 

 

 

 

 

They are benefits and a win for those who contribute and qualified to recieve them...

 

If you qualify for benefits and receive them...it's a GRANT.
Not a win.

 

 

 

 

Which is what I told you in the begining.

 

How are YOU going to tell me something that you've been arguing against?
I'm the one who told YOU that a win is only in the context of a contest.

 

Now let me amend my previous statement.
Being compensated isn't a win, but it can be the RESULT of a win.

For example....
You can win a lawsuit, and be compensated some money and other forms of restitution.
The money isn't exactly a win...the judgement is.
But the money is a direct result OF the win.

 

 

 

 

 

Being paid is a win

 

See my previous post.

 

 

 

 

 

When dealing with some one who is not willing to admit to their own posting....it becomes nonsenical to repeatedly repost their own postings as proof.

 

I agree.
Which is why I only repost yours one or two times to bring a particular contradiction or error to your attention.
If you don't get it; then I leave you alone....lol....let the chronic wear off.

 

 

 

Good continue filling....

 

At some point, when the bin gets TOO full....I'm going to have to start SHREDDING....lol

 

 

 

 

Cool....I have provided my proof - you have used the words Focus on medium - that alone is enough proof

 

Were they arranged in that manner?  Focus ->  on ->  medium 
Or did you just take those individual words out of their context and RE-arrange them to fit your strawman argument?

 

 

 

 

Yes.....

Many scientist and philosophers were considered mad.....

Because the simpletons of world could not comprehend their logics and scientific thoughts.

 

Are YOU a scientist or a recognized philosopher?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its reads like an admission....so it is one

 

I'm glad you're not a detective.
You'd be locking up everybody brought through the precinct doors.

 

 

"He said he wanted to talk to his lawyer.
That sounds like an ADMISSION OF GUILT to me!"

 

 

 

In any case it is a Colorism....which is an evil and cruel practice

 

How do you justify calling colorism "evil"?
What religious text did you get that out of?

 

Just say YOU don't agree with it.
I'm not sure if you're qualified to judge it and condemn it as "evil".

 

 

 

 

If so why is it wrong?

 

Because it puts AfroAmericans at an unfair disadvantage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I told what I would do....to arrive at Equality Equity and Parity.

 

Which was WRONG.
Because what YOU would do wouldn't LEAD to equality or equity.

It would simply maintain the imbalance.

 

 

 

That is the primary and central  thrust to your arguments...

 

It's actually a STRAWMAN that you made up to argue against.
I didn't say it and you can't find any quotes OF me saying it.

Infact, the quotes you produced show the very opposite.

 

 

 

African spoke of Evolution...

They do not speak of lower or higher animals

 

Case closed.
Now again, my question is who spoke on The Theory Of Evolution before White folks did?

 

 

 

 

I have done so....

 

I said read and try your best to COMPREHEND what you read.

If that was your best, I feel sorry for you.

 

 

 

 

 

No...

Disctrimination is still around.....the enemy is discrimination.

 

I don't know about you, but discrimination isn't necessarily MY enemy.
It's only MY enemy if it's discriminating against ME or MY PEOPLE.

 

 

 

 

Both....because the enemy is - Ignorance

 

Not sure if it's THE enemy, but it's certainly AN enemy.

 

 

 

 

I would rather their be not Colorism..in any form

 

Then you're riding the fence.

 

 

 

 

No Oppressor or Oppressed and No Victimizer or Victims 

 

That's Heaven.

 

 

 

 

The enemy is unfair treatment in exposure access and availability.

 

For a man who says he believes in fairness and equity, you certainly have a lot of enemies..lol.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

24 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said:

 never broaching on the subject of the dark skin folks who bullied others based on their different skin color or obesity, or for being 4-eyed or having buck teeth, or being sissified or mentally retarded. This was part of my growing up observations.

 

You can't focus on ALL of the injustices of the world.

Sometimes you gotta pick a struggle.
 

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8 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

It seems as if back in those days @Troy held the same observations I do.

Yeah, I just read that year-long conversation that states 23 years ago!

 

I pose the question to kick the conversation off and didn’t really express my personal opinion until a while into it

 

“Hi Ruby 

I don't buy into the concept that Black people are attempting to mimic white standards of beauty. Black women do so many different things to their hair. Many of the styles, textures and colors used don't belong "naturally" to any racial group on this planet. 

Nor do I buy into the concept of self hatred. Simply because, as Cynique pointed out several months ago, white people also go to great length to modify the natural color and texture of their hair. However white people are not accued of self hatred to the same degree as Black people and they may go to greater extents to change their natural hair. 

A great many people (Black and white) are victims of consumerism. Marketers have figured out an way to make many women want to change their hair -- often on a regular basis, at significant cost and time. 

In much the same way that someone figured out how to convince women that 50 pairs of shoes is not too many to own, someone has convinced women changing their hair style is just as important. Men are increasingly victims of this as well; more and more of us are spending too much time in beauty salons, jewlery and shoe stores.”

 

After almost a quarter of a century, my opinion on this matter has changed a little: I think we need to take more responsibility and how we are so easily manipulated by marketers it’s not just a matter of buying things we don’t need or doing things to ourselves that aren’t necessary like getting butt lifts. Today It’s a matter of letting others tell us what to think.

 

Manipulating what people think has always been around, but it became more aggressive and more pervasive as social media became popular, which wasn’t the case 23 years ago. Now, AI promises to put this on steroids.

Today we have reasonably intelligent people who believe vaccines are bad or who believes it was a good idea to vote for our current president. I don’t think this could’ve happened 23 years ago, so my opinion has changed.