Former "Empire" Actor found Guilty

[ProfD]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/09/arts/television/jussie-smollett-guilty.html

 

I sure hope this n8gglet didn't go through all of this to further his acting career. If so, it backfired.

 

I knew the whole thing was BS when it was initially reported. Just didn't add up. 

[Mzuri]

 

 

17 hours ago, ProfD said:

 

I knew the whole thing was BS when it was initially reported. Just didn't add up. 

 

 

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@ProfD

 

 

How Are You!!!

 

I wasn't buying it either and I think that most reasonable people 

drew that same conclusion early on.

 

He supposedly did all that to attract attention, and he has received

it, but the way he carries on it seems to me that he may have some

sort of mental issues.  I wonder if he has had a psych eval, because 

he damn sure needs one.  If I was his attorney, I'd approach the 

court with that defense, because something is definitely off. 

 

His family has been very supportive of his nonsense.  If that was 

my offspring or sibling, I would have told him that he is on his own

with his court appearances.  There is no way that I would have

escorted his lying behind to court and supported him throughout

all of this.

 

If he is sentenced to prison time, he needs to shut his face, man 

up, do his time, and hope he doesn't get beat up in prison.

 

And if I was the judge, I would probably impose some additional

sentence for all that perjury he did, lying on the witness stand.

 

I know this drama is far from over, and I wonder what will happen 

next.  Whatever happens, this young man is too old to be acting 

so childish.

 

 

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[ProfD]

5 hours ago, Mzuri said:

How Are You!!!

 

I wasn't buying it either and I think that most reasonable people drew that same conclusion early on.

 

His family has been very supportive of his nonsense.  

 

Whatever happens, this young man is too old to be acting so childish.

@Mzuri, all is well on my end. Hopefully so for you and yours too.

 

When I first heard that dumbazz story, I thought, this dude needs a real azz whupping Singapore style. 

 

Taxpayer money totally went to waste in pursing this one. At another place in time, they would have told him to shut up and take a few seats.

 

However, nowadays because everyone has a right to be heard and taken seriously, we're forced to deal with a certain amount of foolishness. 

 

I believe he should have to pay a huge fine for wasting public resources on his publicity stunt.

[Troy]

1 hour ago, ProfD said:

a real azz whupping Singapore style. 

Lol! Even the threat that could happen would have avoided this whole  fiasco.

 

 I’m not sure it will hurt his career though.

 

7 hours ago, Mzuri said:

 Whatever happens, this young man is too old to be acting so childish.

we have now a couple of generations of men who were raised with privilege relative to previous generations; Great economies, never forced to go to war, participation trophies, etc… men who were coddled. 
 

Mothers would spank kids from my generation for crying, today the call their kid’s bosses to complain about their kids performance review…

 

In this young man’s world this hair brained scheme seemed like a perfectly good idea; so used to sympathy, so accustomed to accommodations why would he expect anything but outrage for being treated so badly—poor baby even had a scratch under his eye….

 

of course people saw through this, because most of us, fortunately live in a more realistic world.

[ProfD]

15 hours ago, Troy said:

...we have now a couple of generations of men who were raised with privilege relative to previous generations; Great economies, never forced to go to war, participation trophies, etc… men who were coddled. 

This is a huge peeve of mine. Dudes are getting real soft mentally and physically because they are not being raised to man up. 

 

There is already a war on masculinity.  The last thing we need is a bunch of marshmallows running around when the proverbial sh8t hits the fan. 

[Troy]

1 hour ago, ProfD said:

There is already a war on masculinity. 

There has been for some time now. I believe there are inherent emotional differences between men and women. These differences are both natural  necessary.

 

Some in our culture seemingly prefer to believe that men are really just women with penises, or that they should be…

 

I’m talking about the general case; Physically and emotionally men and women are on a spectrum. There are some women who are physically stronger than some men, but in general men are stronger.

 

The differences between men and women should be celebrated, not blurred or erased.

[Mzuri]

 

 

12 hours ago, Troy said:

we have now a couple of generations of men who were raised with privilege relative to previous generations; Great economies, never forced to go to war, participation trophies, etc… men who were coddled. 
 

Mothers would spank kids from my generation for crying, today the call their kid’s bosses to complain about their kids performance review…

 

In this young man’s world this hair brained scheme seemed like a perfectly good idea; so used to sympathy, so accustomed to accommodations why would he expect anything but outrage for being treated so badly—poor baby even had a scratch under his eye….

 

of course people saw through this, because most of us, fortunately live in a more realistic world.

 

 

 

@Troy

 

 

You are spot on about all of this, especially about the parents 

getting involved in their grown children's employment.

 

I spent a few years employed in an Army commander's office, 

it was a training battalion and I scheduled soldiers training, 

among other things. 

 

The commander would get calls from irate/concerned parents

who thought they had some influence over military matters 

concerning their children.  Things like disciplinary actions, 

grades/scores, or soldiers being discharged because they

were unfit for military life for various reasons.

 

All that those phone calls accomplished was additional scorn

for the soldier that he/she would call their parents to complain,

or ask their parents to intervene on their behalf, which was

considered as weakness and unbecoming.

 

So the parents would have been wise to stay out of it, but that's

not human nature, is it.  Human nature is to coddle their young,

when what is actually needed is a kick in the pants.

 

Anyway, I just saw an article that says Jussie's Hollywood 

career is over.  Forever.

 

Hollywood will never UNcancel him

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, Mzuri said:

Human nature is to coddle their young...

 

when what is actually needed is a kick in the pants.

Absolutely, parents are responsible for protecting their young people up to a point.

 

However, parents should not be demanding participation trophies when their kids lose and/or getting involved in employment issues for their grown azz children.

 

The world doesn't owe spoiled brats anything. But, life will definitely kick them in their pants. 

[Mzuri]

 

 

Was this mess televised, because I would like to see 

the highlites to get some laughs.

 

This is from The Daily Mail:

 

Jussie Smollett juror says they all IMMEDIATELY knew

disgraced Empire star was guilty and that his poor

testimony led to his conviction for faking hate crime
 

Juror says they all IMMEDIATELY knew disgraced Empire star was guilty

 

 

 

 

 

[Troy]

I don’t know i would not be surprised to see Smollett show up somewhere.

 

i wonder if any of this negativity will run off on his sister…

 

I’m surprised to hear about parents calling the military about the disciple of their kids… that just sounds crazy. 

[Mzuri]

 

18 hours ago, Troy said:

 

I don’t know i would not be surprised to see Smollett show up somewhere.

 

i wonder if any of this negativity will run off on his sister…

 

I’m surprised to hear about parents calling the military about the disciple of their kids… that just sounds crazy. 

 

 

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@Troy

 

Smollett's family was being supportive, but I don't think 

I would have stood by him after his lies were exposed. 

His sister must have had a difficult decision, especially 

when factoring in the impact on her own acting career.

 

I was in a training battalion, and the soldiers that the 

parents were calling about were just starting out in their  

military careers.  So I can relate to them wanting to get 

involved, but they shouldn't have.

 

More recently, a childhood friend of my Husband's, 

called him to ask for his help regarding her grandson.

She had raised her grandson as her own child.

 

My Husband is retired military, served for thirty years,

he achieved the highest enlisted rank, Sergeant Major,

and was a Command Sergeant Major for over ten years. 

He knows a lot of people and has connections.

 

His friend's grandson was a commissioned officer, 

he was a Major stationed in Germany.

 

His wife stayed in the U.S. with their children, she went 

to Germany to visit him and found out he was having an

affair.  And the husband and wife got into a physical fist

fight.  It must have been a doozy because military police

were called.

 

Anytime the MPs are involved, the incident goes onto a

blotter report that's distributed to all units/commanders

the next morning, and everybody knows about whatever 

happened.   

 

It could be a child or wife got caught shoplifting from the

PX, a traffic stop, or whatever, the soldier is going to be

held accountable by his chain of command if their name 

is on the blotter.

 

So the Major was in all kinds of trouble and was about to

lose his commission and be discharged from the military

when his grandmother called my Husband.  

 

She asked if he could help, and he told her there was

nothing he could do about it.  She said she was going

to call their congressman.

 

I could have told her that it would be better if she stayed

out of it, I knew that she has a stubborn temperament and

that she would not listen to me.  

 

I have been around the military all my life, and I knew that

she was making things worse and wasting her time. 

 

If he was going to have an affair, which is not permitted in

the military even if geographically separated from a spouse, 

he should have been more discreet and not brought his side

piece to his apartment where his wife would find evidence.

 

They never should have had a physical fight, where either

one of them could have been injured.  For a commissioned 

officer, this was not acceptable.

 

So now the Major's whole military career is gone, his wife 

divorced him, his future had been bright and now it's trash. 

 

He lost his retirement pensions and everything else.

 

Over some tail and not being more careful.  Then beating

up his wife.

 

And grandmother getting involved did not help anything.

 

 

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[Mzuri]

 

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This is from The Daily Mail:

 

'I've still not figured out why he did it' 
Jussie Smollett's sole black juror says his 
testimony made no sense: 'Why did he put 
noose back when cops arrived?'
 

Sole Black Juror Says Smollett's Testimony Made No Sense

 

 

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[ProfD]

3 hours ago, Mzuri said:

'Why did he put noose back when cops arrived?'

Being an actor, he was still in character. 

 

The real question is whether his next job will require props or a costume or uniform. 

 

 

[Pioneer1]

This may not be a very popular position to take but...I support my brother.

When White women cry victim and claim that they were victims of sexual assault, they are usually believed by society until OVERWHELMING evidence is produced that erases all doubt and proves them to be liars.
Now all of a sudden that standard is lowers when a Half-Black man claims to be a victim of a racist and homophobic attack.

Now all of a sudden the police are suspicous of his claims, checking all of the video tapes, doing everything EXCEPT treating him as a victim of a crime.

Did he make it all up?

Perhaps

But the interesting thing is even to this very moment despite over 90% of the public agreeing that he lied and made the whole thing up....HE still maintains that he was indeed a victim and that he didn't make it up.  I find that VERY interesting that he stands so firmly on his accusations despite all of this "evidence" the police allegedly produced that it didn't happen.

Another and more broader issue with this case is, if we reject Jussie and his claim.....it opens the door to reject  OTHER claims of racial attacks.

A racial attack claim used to be as sacred and indisputable as a sexual assault claim.
You were almost villified for just QUESTIONING whether or not it actually happened.
The Jussie Smollett case has changed that to where now if a Black man claims to be a victim of a racist attack...it's met with skepticism and sometimes open disbelief.
How long will it be before people are lynched in the streets again and the claim will be "it didn't happen....they're making it all up"????