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AI will never become conscious
Do you believe AI currently has the ability to think? If yes what is your reasoning and give an example. If not why do you think it can gain these missing elements.
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Becoming Liz โ AALBC Book Review Consideration
Hi Troy, Thank you for catching the 40% discount. Since I am approaching bookstores, I had planned and have adjusted it. I understand why you and your team must be judicious in selecting which books you review. Thank you for your time. Kitt
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Are We Living In Separate Realities?
Lol I can see you have lost track of your own thoughts in this debate.... Machines are the equivalent to our bodies and in this case AI would then be Equivalent to our brain. In other words....The AI processes info as does the brain Lol you have lost track and is about to switch sides....or straddle In humans The Central and Peripheral Nervous System That receives and process info Equivalent to The Electro-digital Software and CPU And so are we also socialized to distinguish ourselves from our mother....the process is equivalent - but not identical. Then check out the Nag Hammadi Library and The Tibetan Book of the Dead(Bardo thodol)....two lights one of Higher Consciousness and another that leads to rebirth. True This is true too....the motive is usually to make a profit I appreciate the fact that you doing some research on the internet....They did not uncover this info The Knowledge is Ancient....Even Buddhism Hinduism etc speaks of it.....in their tradition it's called Samsara I do not think Buddha is minor.... I do not know if trying to expound on Eternal is some thing your Ready or Willing to Understand and Accept...I will try Eternal is a concept bound up in Time....If one escapes the Cycle of Rebirth - One Simultaneous Escapes Time. Time is a Fictional Aspect of Physical Reality....do not confuse Time with Growth and Maturity - Time is An Address in Space We only Live in the..... NOW - often referred to as the.....Eternal Present The Ancient cultures used many ways.....I know of 5 different types of technological modalities to figure this out here is 2 - Trance and Meditations We are part of the Creator....And so share in this ability to a degree - All that is needed is the tech to access it.....I provided 2 above I do understand you perfectly..... Do you understand what I am laying down for you to pick up on........Are you Tracking? I answered that 2 ways above..... Time Does not Exist* Finite beings exist in the Now.....Only the Now Actually Exist We are part of The Infinite....So we can access Infinity. Not trying to be confusing but language has limitations.... We are Infinite Beings....trap in physicality Time etc Cycle means.....No beginning or Ending Constantly repeating - Ouroboros Cool The moment you use something to make some thing.....it is not Ex Nihilio God of the Bible use dirt/earth to make Man and Sound to Make Earth....and called it Creating Almost everything is derived... Depending on the route or process taken of how a thing is derived....it is called by a name that tells of its heritage but it all remains a Derivative reproduction production innovation creation iteration splitting etc are all derivatives Yes they are.... They Spirit is God or Nature They Soul is God limited in/to a body The Soul....is the Spirit and The Body Combine The Divine Spark is the Spirit.
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Black Woman Threatened by Arabs in Michigan
Awesome. Those brothas totally made my day. That's how Black men should be standing up everywhere there's a problem.โ๐ฟ๐
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AI....'ish is getting Real
I never saw the flick either and have added it to my watch list -- 50 and Terrence look so young :-)
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AI and Emotion?
AI is not "programmed" in the way that you are thinking. A traditional program has input and predictable output based upon the rules defined in the code. AI out puts and the behavior of agents are NOT predictable. We already know agents behave is ways that unaligned with the goals of humans
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AI....'ish is getting Real
Get Rich...is a very watchable movie. Terrence Howard brings comedic relief to it.๐
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Low Female Participation On This Site
"Enragement drives engagement" Anecdotes are fine, but when you use them a proof for a larger population you run into problems. the same goes for stereotypes and conspiracies. Combating this with facts, logic, and thoughtful reasoning usually fails. Such is the state of modern discourse.
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A Search Engine You Have to Consider
True, but the masses will not. I can only afford to pay for so much and since I'm paying for two AI platforms I'm not going to add search to the mix too. Plus, Kagi search engine is dependent upon Google and other search engines to rank results. If they lost access to Google API I doubt they would be nearly as good. I'm not so sure it is not like a designer label you can flaunt in public... Beside has been out for several years and one I told about it has ever heard of it. I only learned about it a couple of weeks ago. @Pioneer1 the freedom's that allow Black culture to have such a tremendous influence on American and global culture are under pressure and not given moving forward it is something we have to fight to retain.
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Book Review Consideration โ The Rooms We Leave Open by Hughes A. Robinson III
Thank you, Troy. I really appreciate you taking the time to look at the book and the website. I believed the title was fully available through Ingram, so Iโm glad you flagged thatโIโll check the distribution status today. Iโve also been considering offering signed copies directly through my website, and Iโll work on adding a few endorsements as they come in. Thanks again for the feedback and consideration.
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AI will never become conscious
HI @Delano I watched the video last night. Penrose is 95-years-old! He seems to be doing great. The problem with is opinion on the subject--despite his brilliance--is that he is admittedly out of touch with the current state of AI. He was using Eliza (neither he nor the interviewer could remember the name of that early chatbot) as a basis for his opinion. He seminal book, The Emperor's New Mind was published almost 40 years ago. AI is based in silicon. Our minds are based in carbon. Do you rank one over the other?
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Becoming Liz โ AALBC Book Review Consideration
No Problem, Kit. OK, I found the hardcover in Ingram (I'd only searched for the paperback previously) . I know you did not ask for this, but I'll also offer the following: For the books I'm currently selling the average hardcover book pubbed in 2026 has a page count of 318 pages and a price of $30.38. So, your book is a bit pricey. The real challenge is you are only offering 20% discount to booksellers (see image below from iPage)--that discount is really to low for a brick-and-mortar store to take a chance on carrying. You could offer consignment, but that is another discussion. As a web-based bookseller I could sell the book, but (ignoring website overhead) after Ingram and credit card fees, I'd make $4.79 on the sale. A brick-and-mortar store has a lot more overhead and really needs a standard discount to risk stocking the book. By contrast Marlon James' 640 page book is $32 and gives booksellers the standard discount of 40% on a single copy. Amazon is offering 44% off. I make $10.85 selling Marlon's book ($12.13 if sourced from Amazon). As to the review: I pay a writer and editor for each review--whether I charge the author or not. My motivation is to help authors connect with readers who will enjoy their books. The book review is just one way I do this. As I pointed out. reviews are not free to publish and a critical review from a profession writer, so the free reviews we do are chosen very carefully.
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Low Female Participation On This Site
Funny you should say that, because even when it comes to bums and homeless people on the street....White men tend to get more respect. I don't know how many times I've seen women of color....usually Black and Latina....smile at and even have friendly conversations with White men who were scrubby, dirty, homeless and smelling like piss, liquor, and funk and many of them exhibiting psychotic behavior. They didn't ignore them or pull away from them in fright...but either felt sorry for them or engaged them in conversation. Something you rarely see women do with homeless or derelict Black men. To their credit, as much as they may grin at and converse with regular White men....I've never seen Arab, Indian, or Asian women giggle with and engage in conversations with homeless and fucked up White men. They tend to ignore them and stay away from them out of disgust. I haven't really seen many...or any...White women do it. My point? If you're too good to talk to a poor and destitute Black man on the street, why do you delight so much in conversing with and even in some cases trying to help/save a poor ass White man on the street talking to himself?
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AI....'ish is getting Real
ProfD Get Rich Or Die Tryin Thanks for giving me a movie to watch tonight....lol. Believe it or not this is ANOTHER movie that I haven't seen before...like 3 Strikes, lol. Well.... I saw a LITTLE BIT of it when I was sitting up in a ghetto barbershop but so much drama was going on outside and inside of the shop (one of the barbers got stabbed by his girlfriend outside) that they cut the movie off and I wasn't paying too much attention to it anyway. I saw 50 Cent was in it and thought it was going to be low budget, so I really didn't bother watching it. I don't care too much for those low budget "hood" movies. But a couple people told me it was pretty good so............
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AI and Emotion?
Troy Because it is not human and no, motivations do not require emotion -- especially when you are not human! I would think that INTERNALLY DRIVEN motivations do. Now if somebody on the outside is doing the programming. Then the PROGRAM is the motivator, obviously. But for those who believe that AI has consciousness.... If it's internally motivated then it would have to inevitably have some sort of emotion driving it. Maybe one day I will use the AI as a companion of sorts given how well it understands my motivations and what I'm trying to accomplish with AALBC. It would be a great entity to talk shop with given I don't encounter any other humans who do what I do any more. Well consult with Cynique first and find out how SHE'S doing in her relationship with her AI-companion before getting involved with one of those jokers yourself. If you start seeing her with black eyes and every other conversation she's rambling on and on about court orders and shit...you'll know that's not the type of drama YOU need in your life, lol.
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Black Woman Threatened by Arabs in Michigan
Yeah I heard about this incident. Actually it was the reaction from it that I heard more about and some people I know were telling me that some Arabs had got into it with the Black community in some neighborhood but honestly, I didn't know what set it off until I read THIS post. A local Black activist group went to the neighborhood and confronted the Arabs over the incident: I know about Warrendale It's been a hotbed of racism for a LONG time It's right on the border of Detroit and was one of the last hold-outs for White people who wanted to leave the city but didn't have enough money...lol. I didn't know Arabs took it over though. I had an Uncle who used to live in Warrendale and it was something to drive down the street to his house and see confederate flags and shit flying on the porches. He was one of the few Black people on his street and they eventually burned HIS house down and ran him out.
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AI and Emotion?
Because it is not human and no, motivations do not require emotion -- especially when you are not human! I communicate with AI most days. But my relationship with AI is purely transactional--virtually all of if directed toward this website. Over the last two years I've seen the capabilities grow and it's ability to anticipate my needs, suggest things I had not considered, and exceed my expectations has only improved. Sure, there are times where the AI (Gemini in particular) seems to take a step back, but net-net it has been a remarkable period of improvement. Early on it the AI was constantly sucking up to me and I asked it to stop ultimately a newer model eliminated that tendency. I do not need AI as a companion, but I can see where others might and that is fine. Maybe one day I will use the AI as a companion of sorts given how well it understands my motivations and what I'm trying to accomplish with AALBC. It would be a great entity to talk shop with given I don't encounter any other humans who do what I do any more. The whole question about "emotion" and AI is irrelevant to me. Emotion is driven by human biology. AI does not have this biology. Sure, it can mimic it and if that makes it easier for some to extract benefits from so be it. I just don't need that feature...
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Review Consideration Request โ My Voice: A Guide to Mastering Life, Truth, and Purpose
Hi Ralph, congrats on your book! You got a Kirkus review; oh, you should definitely invest in an AALBC.com Comissioned Book Review.
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AI will never become conscious
AI can't become conscious because we don't understand consciousness. We can describe neurologically what happens in the brain but that is not the totality of mind. We can not map the unconscious which is where most of thinking occurs. AI is good at manipulating symbols but that is not the same as understanding.
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AI will never become conscious
@frankster sensation refers to the five senses.. @Troy a computer is programmed. So I would hardly say it has volition. Computation does not equate understanding much less thinking.
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Black Woman Threatened by Arabs in Michigan
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2026/09/29/woman-charged-by-prosecutor-in-detroit-car-crash-that-sparked-tensions/92010524007/?gnt-cfr=1&gca-cat=p&gca-uir=true&gca-epti=z113018p118050l000850c118050e1178xxv113018d--32--b--32--&gca-ft=136&gca-ds=sophi This should not be happening to Black folks anywhere. According to the story, an Arab woman hits the car of Black woman. Arab woman at fault. Accident happened in a heavily Arab-populated area. A mob of Arab dudes surrounded the Black woman's car yelling slurs & threatening her. The initial handling of this situation was not in the black woman's favor. The Sand people had her shook. Black folks cannot continue allowing people to disrespect our own especially the young people & elders. Its imperative that Black folks become proficient in self-defense & weapons training. There's no reason for Black folks to start wars but we d8mn sure betrer know how to fight & finish one with whoever comes against us. No more Black folks getting beat up &/or killed by the hands of white supremacists & their trustees. Now I'm wondering if this was a staged attack to get at thw lil dude running for US senate Mohamed El-Sayed.๐
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AI....'ish is getting Real
Fellas...Is it still considered judging if I'm right?๐คฃ๐
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Low Female Participation On This Site
As she should have especially if he was sleeping on that sidewalk or asking for change so he could get something to drink, er, eat.๐คฃ๐
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AI and Emotion?
Both is True Consider it this Way.....Just as how you are alive and they are alive....They are you individually and you are them collectively We are made up of millions of cells each having Consciousness....Whilst at the same time We have Consciousness. In away it is like they are our micro consciousness and we are their macro consciousness According to the Ancients we all share in the One Consciousness...We are but outlets or expressions of Consciousness. Cool My own personal definition is... Simple and basic....Consciousness is a State of Being. Yes....to a degree. Do we have Free Will? Do we make up our own mind or make decisions independently and free of outside influence? No we do not.. Yes it is able to show Anger and resentment.....it is said to be able to Simulate Science still denies that it can experience these emotions or experience anything. Our Programming is Called Socialization....Socialization is the Instillation of Rules and Behavior Our Code or Algorithm is Called ......Culture Norms Laws Ideas Values and especially Peer Pressure The real difference between programmed and socialized is the degree to which one is able to Disobey or Break the Rules that have been inculcated Few and far between...none that has been accepted by science. True.... But who can really say....Yea or Nay To reason like you @Pioneer1 would....I would have said:- Ever heard of an Emotional Reaction?
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Low Female Participation On This Site
@Pioneer1 Blah, blah, blah. You'd be tongue tied if you couldnt rely on anecdotal evidence. How do you know what the MAJORITY of black women were doing or thinking then - or now? In any case, it's not about what I prefer. I'm out of the equation - a past generation. Nothing I can do if the rejects don't measure up. Maybe better role models are called for. Whatever will be, will be. Only the fittest will survive. Such is life.