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Economic Corner 12 - 02/12/2025

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This event began 02/12/2025 and repeats every year forever

This economic corner is a manipulation of a dialog between me side @ProfD side @Troy I felt it is warranted because the post it was started in is about Black Owned Websites and while the overall dialog with Troy maintained a focus on black websites, the dialog between me side profd did not. So I placed my replies to their post within the multilog, with no demand to a reply. 

A majority of blacks in the usa are individualist and that isn't  a negative thing. It is something born from being in majority terrorized by whites from the early 1500s to circa 1980. Black people have done everything possible in the usa to nonviolently grow. Everything possible. The failure was in who black people existed nonviolently next to, non blacks. Now in 2025 in the usa I think it is clear from the black 1% or the black financially wealthy, black elected officials, black places of worship, that the black people with the most financial wealth or access to power or resources are individualist. Actions speak louder than words. So, when it comes to group actions across 50 states, I argue all those are foolish endeavors in modernity. The old black populace in the usa is dead and is never coming back. And that is fine. 

Black communalism in the usa isn't dead but it is local, tribal. So to a black website in the usa or any communal activity in the usa , they are all best as tribal acts. The faith in nonviolent communalism is silly, unwarranted. 

I don't know if anyone notices but for a while I don't use the term "black community in the usa" cause for me that is a lie. The black populace in the usa exist. but the black populace is not a community. And I repeat, that isn't a bad thing. It is warranted. The Black populace spent a solid one hundred years in the usa , being communal like no other people on earth at the same time , or very few in human history, and white power crushed it all. yes, some will argue, try again, but that is silly or stupid. Black people in the usa repeated anything someone black says needs to happen multiple in the past as a community, white power crushed it all. No need for the black populace in the usa to try again all the things that failed in the usa by way of white power. 

If you are black in the usa, embrace your small tribe, or embrace individualism but stop all the unwarranted talk about the larger populace doing communal action. Look positive to the future in a new road, a wise road, a financially more honest road. 

IN AMENDMENT

Troy suggested the specific issue of black websites but it is a general affair so I placed it here alongside anything I have to say as it isn't specific to the black websites issue. 

 

THE DIALOG BETWEEN ME SIDE PROFD SIDE TROY

 

https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11462-is-black-twitter-still-a-thing/#findComment-71601

 

@ProfD

  On 2/6/2025 at 11:02 AM, ProfD said:

 find it mind-boggling that Black brain-power and wealth are not working together to create our own platforms. 

 

I find it disturbing that Black folks are perfectly fine with enriching white folks at every level.  Social media platforms is one example.

If individualism is the majority position among Black people with the revenue or resources to invest in owning a website fit for modern esocial activity, then it does make sense. I don't think an individualist sees it as enriching a community, they see it as an individual investment. If you are individualist, you don't see your actions as part of any populace in humanity, only the larger humanity itself. 

@Troy

  On 2/6/2025 at 5:30 PM, Troy said:

It takes a ton of money to run a robust social media platform capable of supporting even tens of thousands of users -- let alone hundreds of millions of users globally. So, any site we use will need serious funding and only comes from investors who believe there will be serious returns on their investment.

thank you, too often black folk seem to think investment in things just needs pennies from the black poor. Something require grand investment

 

To @ProfD + @Troy

  On 2/6/2025 at 6:16 PM, ProfD said:

Black folks invest a whole lot of money in churches though.  Maybe we need to call the Black platform Hallelujah

 

  On 2/8/2025 at 11:25 AM, Troy said:

That is actually a Great idea man a Christian social media site, surely one most already exist.

I found on first page search only the following 

http://www.blackandchristian.com/

Its funny facebook was started through colleges, Historical black colleges through the fraternities or sororities can idealistically do similar. 

 

https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11462-is-black-twitter-still-a-thing/#findComment-71607

 

  On 2/9/2025 at 9:56 PM, richardmurray said:

I found on first page search only the following 

http://www.blackandchristian.com/


That website is defaulted. It has not been maintained for years and the length to the forms is broken. The fact that it ranks well in search seems to indicate there is no active website in the space. I wonder if there’s even a desire for one. I suspect most church communities have their own websites and online social platforms.

 

  On 2/8/2025 at 12:00 PM, ProfD said:

Regardless of religious affiliation, I was thinking that could be the name of a Black-owned platform equivalent of Tw8tter (X)


Well, from the example that Richard provided the idea of a Black Christian website didn’t seem to work. As far as a black on website, the equivalent of what’s already out there we already know that won’t work at least not originating in the US.

 

  On 2/9/2025 at 9:56 PM, richardmurray said:

I don't think an individualist sees it as enriching a community, they see it as an individual investment.


Of course anyone buying in stock in Meta or Alphabet are doing so to make money for themselves. Now, while  Facebook makes itself out itself as bringing in the world closer together people don’t invest in them for that they invest solely to make money.

 

There are other businesses types that are mission, driven B corps and not for profits. people invest in them to improve society, but those aren’t the organizations that make all that make money for investors or create wealth. 
 

It has been suggested buy some, that AALBC should become a not for profit.

 

https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11462-is-black-twitter-still-a-thing/#findComment-71608

@Troy

  On 2/10/2025 at 10:30 AM, Troy said:

The fact that it ranks well in search seems to indicate there is no active website in the space. I wonder if there’s even a desire for one. I suspect most church communities have their own websites and online social platforms.

Local Churches historically tend to be competitive to each other, they may share a similar faith but they rarely like to share prominence.

Well, youtube tried short videos before tiktok was created and it didn't catch fire. so, what that one scenario proves is, the packaging/algorithm/style of such a website is key. People like websites when it offers a simple straight forward interface while provides an aspect to communication online that they didn't have before, not necessarily as a tool , but in the style of the tool. 

I think "HAlleluyah" can work, but imagination will be needed in how it operates.

I argue AALBC should stay for profit but it will be wise if you have a contingency plan for non profit upon your death or some bad situation

 

https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11462-is-black-twitter-still-a-thing/#findComment-71609

  On 2/10/2025 at 10:30 AM, Troy said:

As far as a black on website, the equivalent of what’s already out there we already know that won’t work at least not originating in the US.

Again, I was not advocating for a Black Christian website or platform. 

 

That's not my thing as the resident agnostic around here.

 

Half-Jokingly, I only used the name Hallelujah because many Black folks would check it out due to upbringing.

 

  On 2/9/2025 at 9:56 PM, richardmurray said:

thank you, too often black folk seem to think investment in things just needs pennies from the black poor. Something require grand investment

 

Many poor people still give church offerings, smoke cigarettes, drink alcohol and do drugs and shop.  So, they can contribute along with other investors.

 

https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11462-is-black-twitter-still-a-thing/#findComment-71610

 

@ProfD

  On 2/10/2025 at 12:14 PM, ProfD said:

So, they can contribute along with other investors.

Can they? 

I don't smoke cigarettes, but I know cigarettes cost money, so if a human being, likes smoking cigerattes and they are a financially poor person, they probably don't have money to invest in a website, even if what they can invest is not even a miniscule fraction of a percent of the funds needed .

 

https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11462-is-black-twitter-still-a-thing/#findComment-71611

  On 2/10/2025 at 5:55 PM, richardmurray said:

 

Can they? 

Yes they can.

  On 2/10/2025 at 5:55 PM, richardmurray said:

...so if a human being, likes smoking cigerattes and they are a financially poor person, they probably don't have money to invest in a website, even if what they can invest is not even a miniscule fraction of a percent of the funds needed .

Reads like you're making excuses.

 

Where I come from, I know for a fact that poor people know how find money.

 

Obviously, not enough money to become rich or wealthy in most cases. But, it's enough to maintain habits.

 

Many campaigns are funded by small money donors. Some churches operate the same way. It adds up.

https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11462-is-black-twitter-still-a-thing/#findComment-71614

@ProfDnot an excuse, being happy isn't an excuse to anything.

if any human being does something that makes them happy, they want to do that more right. At least for me, i will rather be happy than sad and i think any other human will rather be happy than sad. So fi your happiness is an expense , you still need it and some investment into something that will not lead to you being happy will not be maintained for long. 

yes example of consistent small donors to certain financial endeavors exist, but to be even, cause the dialog is swaying away from the theme of the topic... my original quotes were in concert with Troy's concerning black twitter, more specifically websites, online websites, it wasn't a generalization. and in an endeavor like a website big donors are mandatory , needed. Not one heavily followed website had small donors. throughout its history. That isn't laziness or an accident or something small donors can undo, it is the reality, big donors are needed for any website to grow a certain size. And to the current environment , many websites even after massive financial investment are failures. Look at china really. The blunt truth is that western european countries/japan/india/russia all have websites to their local markets but none were like china, willing to invest enough to get websites that are global brands. And it took money for that, not small donors of the chinese people. Rich chinese so I repeat my point to troy: too often black folk seem to think investment in things just needs pennies from the black poor.  and I amend, that is not true. 

Black pennies from the black poor is good for local, local defined as city region or town level investments. A house/ a community center/a retail shop/small scale operations. that are bounded to the region of a city or a town. But if you want industry leading firms across the usa, with over three hundred and fifty million people or moreover humanity, the black rich not the black pennies from the black poor have to be the primary investors. 

 

https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11462-is-black-twitter-still-a-thing/#findComment-71618

  21 hours ago, richardmurray said:

@ProfDnot an excuse, being happy isn't an excuse to anything.

if any human being does something that makes them happy, they want to do that more right. At least for me, i will rather be happy than sad and i think any other human will rather be happy than sad. So fi your happiness is an expense , you still need it and some investment into something that will not lead to you being happy will not be maintained for long. 

Right.

 

Reminds me of people who claim they want to lose weight but refuse to diet and exercise because eating makes them happy.

 

Instead of a gym membership, the overweight person who claims they want to lose weight would rather spend that money on more food and snacks. 

 

A pack of cigarettes in NYC costs $13 dollars. That's almost 1 hour of minimum wage work.

 

If we're serious about it, 4 million Black people investing $25 dollars (2 packs of cigarettes in NYC or a large pizza) in a business venture adds up to $100 million dollars.

https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11462-is-black-twitter-still-a-thing/#findComment-71621

@ProfD

  21 hours ago, ProfD said:

A pack of cigarettes in NYC costs $13 dollars. That's almost 1 hour of minimum wage work.

it's funny, i haven't heard of a person buying a pack of cigarettes in a very long time in nyc. I see people buying singles at stores or asking for singles from their fellows or strangers. A pack? no one has money for a pack Profd. that fact that you suggested that ... you haven't been in a place like nyc in a long time have you? I don't get snap but many are complaining about snap benefits ending.

...I repeat, because it is important, black pennies will not do it. Do you know across the demographic board of NYC, if the school food program goes under, half of the children in nyc's schools, not just black, the non black as well whom you like to suggest so financially astute, will go hungry, across the board 50% , fifty percent of the children in public school.

  21 hours ago, ProfD said:

 

If we're serious about it, 4 million Black people investing $25 dollars (2 packs of cigarettes in NYC or a large pizza) in a business venture adds up to $100 million dollars.

 I will love to know who has bought two packs of cigarettes in a month in nyc ? only people with money in the first place are doing that.  but you get to the nitty gritty. 

Who is going to be in control fo that hundred million dollars? Profd? It will not be me. who? obama? sharpton? mrs obama? clarence thomas? who? historical black colleges?

I can't name one black individual or group in the usa who has the desire+ imagination+trust to do anything with 100 million. if it was gathered.

This goes back to our million man march dialog. Assuming someone had the trust or could gain the trust, trust must be earned, of five hundred thousand black men  who attended the march , with your $25 dollar assumption, that twelve million and five hundred dollars? but who canthose 5000,00 trust? you? me ?  iargue none class.

https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11462-is-black-twitter-still-a-thing/#findComment-71627

 19 hours ago, richardmurray said:

@ProfD

it's funny, i haven't heard of a person buying a pack of cigarettes in a very long time in nyc. I see people buying singles at stores or asking for singles from their fellows or strangers. A pack? no one has money for a pack Profd. that fact that you suggested that ... you haven't been in a place like nyc in a long time have you?

You're missing the point but it's OK. 

 

I was just in NYC last year. Saw Black folks spending money too.

 

  19 hours ago, richardmurray said:

n in nyc's schools, not just black, the non black as well whom you like to suggest so financially astute, will go hungry, across the board 50% , fifty percent of the children in public school.

NYC is the same place spending millions of dollars housing illegal immigrants. They could easily feed the children if ut was a priority.

 

  19 hours ago, richardmurray said:

 Who is going to be in control fo that hundred million dollars? Profd?

 

I can't name one black individual or group in the usa who has the desire+ imagination+trust to do anything with 100 million.

Right. Therein lies the biggest obstacle.

 

On one hand, you don't 1) believe Black folks can raise $100 million dollars through grassroot efforts and 2) can't trust any steward of the $100 million dollars collected.

 

But, you'll suggest folks like Oprah Winfrey and others put up $100 million dollars of their money.

 

My point is that Black folks can do both. 

 

  19 hours ago, richardmurray said:

This goes back to our million man march dialog. Assuming someone had the trust or could gain the trust, trust must be earned, of five hundred thousand black men  who attended the march , with your $25 dollar assumption, that twelve million and five hundred dollars? but who canthose 5000,00 trust? you? me ?  iargue none class.

It starts with having a solid plan/agenda, goals and milestones.

 

That requires a herculean effort of oorganization among Black folks especially in a climate of individualism and tribalism.

 

MY CONTINUATION 

 @ProfD

  On 2/12/2025 at 8:05 AM, ProfD said:

You're missing the point but it's OK. 

 

I was just in NYC last year. Saw Black folks spending money too.

I comprehend your point, it is that the financial poor in a populace can lead a populace, in fiscal capitalism, always. 

 

  On 2/12/2025 at 8:05 AM, ProfD said:

NYC is the same place spending millions of dollars housing illegal immigrants. They could easily feed the children if ut was a priority.

well I don't know about ease, I never say anything is easy. Nothing is easy. 

Technically, NYC is spending federal money on housing illegal immigrants, thus appropriated money, thus money that must be used for specific reasons. I doubt the representatives of many states in the union will desire federal money for immigrants into nyc 

 

  On 2/12/2025 at 8:05 AM, ProfD said:

Right. Therein lies the biggest obstacle.

 

On one hand, you don't 1) believe Black folks can raise $100 million dollars through grassroot efforts and 2) can't trust any steward of the $100 million dollars collected.

 

But, you'll suggest folks like Oprah Winfrey and others put up $100 million dollars of their money.

 

My point is that Black folks can do both. 

Expand  

Well, I must first say, I call any populace in humanity foolish if they put up large funds without trust. You first have to have the trust before the money. It is rare but sometimes the number 2 comes before number 1 this is one of those times. You have 1 but 2 is a key element to why 1 exist with me. 

Yes, Profd, here is a simple example. If I am a billionaire, no a multibillionaire, lets say I have ten billion. so ten percent is one billion. one percent is one hundred million. 

So, now someone, like myself says, why don't Rich spend one hundred million, which is one percent of rich rich's wealth in this example right? 

Now, that 100 million is Rich Rich's money right?  Rich Rich can do what he want with his money right? So, if Rich Rich don't invest in the community  that is perfectly acceptable because Rich Rich is free to not invest or invest with Rich Rich's. While, if rich rich is honest, if he is me he is, Rich Rich will publicly say he isn't helping the black populace in the usa and is responsible for not helping as one of the wealthiest black people in the usa. Cause that is the truth. If someone like Profd says in some forum, you guys want Rich Rich to invest his money , but can't trust a steward . and someone will say, Rich Rich said, as a fiscally wealthy black person in fiscal capitalsim that I have to invest first, before any fiscally poor black person, and if I don't invest, I am free to but anyone can tell me to shut the fuck up if I chime in on the village. Yes, if I was a billionaire and freely chose to not invest in the community but like to chime in on this show or that, any black person has the right to tell me to shut the fuck up. 

To the obstacle of trust.... 

YEs in the past the black churches in the usa had the ability to garner grassroots, but the stewardship of the black populace in the usa by the black churches in the usa failed. From circa 1865 to 1990 the black churches in the usa had their time and it ended with the majority of the black populace in the usa correctly rejecting their stewardship from the black churches. 

The black churches in the usa had three tenets: nonviolence/grassroots activity/be of the church.

 

Be of the Church is very interesting historically. 

The black populace in the usa at one time was 99% christian. Comprehend the percentage of jews in the white european populace/buddhist in the white asian populace was larger than non christian blacks in the black populace. So, the entire advantage to black churches existed , in terms of maintaining a strong role in the black populace, and sequentially membership.  But I think the 1950s, was the beginning of the end for the black churches in that be of the church mantra. Atheism/Islam/Buddhism/Belief systems or faiths older than christianity or islam or judaism while indigenous to africa grew in influence. The Black churches in all earnest, were never flexible enough when it came to the potential internal variance of cultures in the black populace in the usa. And their relationship to: Historic black colleges or universities, the NAACP, the garveyites, the black soldiers from the first two phases of the white european imperial wars W.E.I.W., black newspapers, the panthers, the nation of islam and many others all should had been integrated with black churches more but none were. The colleges or universities were initially 99% financed by white churches , black people had no money when the 13th amendment was signed because our populace was mostly enslaved not to long before. So I comprehend that white churches wanted the colleges to get black members to their churches. But black churches needed to merge with those colleges, comprehending that at their core they are places of learning not religion. The garveyites, again, malcolm's father was a pastor. But, not all churches supported garveyism. and that was foolish to me. The NAACP financed by white jews and has a black 1% workforce  in it, but link to them. and they didn't. Black Soldiers, so many black soldiers in the first phase of the W.E.I.W. came back to the usa invigorated , but alot of times they organized away from the black churches, not through it. I comprehend that many soldiers don't share the position on violence many church folk will want but embrace these people. Newsppapers/Panthers/ Nation of Islam  the black churches simply didn't make an effort to bind with black organizations or groups over the years. It isn't about people coming to them but they needed to lead and go to others, and they didn't and the results are easy to see.  The modern internal multiracial reality in the black populace in the usa has left the black churches behind, but they never embraced it, even among themselves. What always knocks me out is how little black churches helped each other. Very individualistic black churches are.

 

Grassroots activity is huge, initially the most positive. Black churches were able to manage black money/time/muscle into building schools, being active in government affairs. Again the 1950s, was a time of change. Circa 1865 most black people in the usa were correctly, financially worthless, as they came out of enslavement. But by 1955, and moreso in 1965, you see the rise of what i call the black one percent. Nonviolently, evading or surviving or overcoming all sorts of white violence/attacks/bullying/terrorism some black people , with the help of the village cause no one does it alone no matter what they tell you, achieved financial wealth.  Not white wealth levels, again, white people killed first people to take their land and enslaved black folk to till that land, so having access to land + labor that you are not paying at market rate or in various tax system or rulesets helps catapult financial revenue streams, which black people wierdly seem to think can be better legally. But the black wealthy circa 1950s had developed a culture started from 1865 that influenced black churches badly. The black wealthy all went to black churches and started manipulating how they operated , whereas circa 1865 black churches sought to help the black populace, circa 1955 black churches are telling black people to help themselves. Black business owners flipped the bill for alot of activities in the 1960s but the black churches should had by that time been more involved. But the death of grassroots activities from black churches to the larger black populace in their regions started to change how black people related to the churches. Kwame Ture, some know as Stokely Carmicheal, said it best himself, about Martin Luther King jr, can you imagine a black baptist preacher doesn't accept a cadillac. The Black Preachers by the 1960s in majority were not about the flock but themselves, that is why they never voted for MLK jr to be head of the southern black christian leadership conference. And in parallel, the wealthy black churches have survived well to this day each in their individual glamour while the fiscally poor churches said rich churches didn't even think warranted a grassroots activity to save died and with them a huge disassociation from the larger black populace in the usa. 

 

Nonviolence:) I saved this last, cause i argue this was the biggest injury black churches had to their leadership position in the black populace in the usa. 

So many black people were beaten , the tragedy of the usa, is alot of times, black people ourselves, focus on the hangings, the burnings, the action from whites that lead to death, but i think the violent actions from whites that are not lethal are more interesting. 

How many black women were raped? I know in one town all the black women were raped by whites, a common knowledge around black people in that town. 

How many black men were beaten by whites, unsheeted circa 1865 to anytime now sheeted circa 1875 to circa 1965 uniformed circa 1865 to anytime now. 

The Black Churches circa 1865 had a vote where they decided a collective stance, an agreement between black churches on the stance towards violence [I am trying to find out all i can about this and add it to the DOS EARLY LITERATURE GROUP, it will be one of my best finds if I can] , to support nonviolence. 

And I don't mind that, but here is the problem, when you promote nonviolence aside a communalism circa 1865 black individuals don't feel alone, but from circa 1950s to modernity the nonviolence is aside individualism. In the 1970s white people still enslaved black people straightly, albeit illegally, while black churches in the same 1970s are talking about bootstraps. Said enslaved black people:  can't chew through metal,  block a bullet to their arm or deal with a ax hit across their foot, can't attack an armed person with the power of faith. Black people needed armed protection, they needed guidance away from white violence. But all the black churches ever provided from circa 1865 to modernity, 2025, going from undoubted leaders to castaway organizations, is no guidance away from violence or no protection and black people, like any people with some sense, saw the nonviolent plea ended up with the black churches leaving each of its members alone, as black individuals against white communal violence and why go to church for that. I will never forget Sean Bell's father, he said he wanted the men who killed his son dead. Al sharpton, the pastor, and others made sure he wasn't heard much after in the media sphere, and that encapsulates the problem with non violence from the black church. It is a spit in the eye. The same Black Churches that shut up Sean Bell's father who said nothing wrong in my mind, will then turn to people with similar feeling to sean bell's father, all earned by white violence, and tell them about investing in some business, voting for some official, all of things that will not satisfy their warranted anger. Cause the black churches don't care. it is a philosophical desire that leaves black people alone in the affairs that matter most while demanding some unwarranted communal action by the same individuals.  

 

And this goes to my point about Black leadership concerning the Black 1% in the usa, said 1% was brewed in Black Churches in the usa. The Black Churches developed an individualist culture that didn't even allow them to help fellow black churches, and made them private clubs whose members ingratiate themselves and have a heirarchy of wealth, dismissive of anybody outside. So when I suggest the black 1% put up their money, I don't do that hopefully. It is merely strategic assessment within a fiscal capitalistic environment where all major actions come through the fiscal aristocracy , no matter how they got their wealth, and uplifting the black populace in the usa is a major action. 

 

PRofd you suggest in a climate of individualism that garnering the trust needed is a continent bridging act of organization. I concur. Possibility is not probability. Possibility ask can a thing happen or not. Probability ask what is the gamble, as a numerical value, a thing can happen. 

It is possible, all things are possible actually. But the probability is very low in this case. 

 

 

https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11462-is-black-twitter-still-a-thing/#findComment-71630  (FROM TROY  IN AMENDMENT- this came in after I had set up this post so I just placed it in )

  21 hours ago, richardmurray said:

I will love to know who has bought two packs of cigarettes in a month in nyc ?


There are plenty of people. I was asked to buy a carton of cigarettes here in Florida for someone up in New York City who smokes two packs a day. My mother easily smokes a pack a day and has been doing that for the better part of 3/4 of a century.

 

certainly, we as a people can do a much better job and investing in our own businesses.
 

We do have experience with this already. There are mega churches all over the country that are supported by relatively small contributions by large numbers of people. Some of those churches have schools and provide a wide variety of services for the community in addition to ensuring contributors get into heaven. But churches have all types of tax advantages that regular businesses don’t.

The real issue, I think, is creating wealth for the investors rather than lighting the pockets of some charismatic preacher. It is not just a matter of organizing the investors it’s coming up with the viable business.

 

Alternatively, people can be content in simply contributing to a business without expecting to be rewarded financially. People contribute to my business simply because they want to support what I’m doing, which is beautiful because it actually does help. 

 

MY REPLY 

 

 @Troy 

  On 2/12/2025 at 8:04 PM, Troy said:

There are plenty of people. I was asked to buy a carton of cigarettes here in Florida for someone up in New York City who smokes two packs a day. My mother easily smokes a pack a day and has been doing that for the better part of 3/4 of a century.

Buy a carton in florida, not in NYC and Profd's point was about NYC, not buying in another state because of the cost in nyc... 

  On 2/12/2025 at 8:04 PM, Troy said:

certainly, we as a people can do a much better job and investing in our own businesses.

whose we? The black populace in the usa, not the world, not another country, the usa has no we. Yes, small tribes do this or that. But overall no we exist in the black populace of the usa. So I argue, the black populace in the usa is doing as it has been guided from internally as well as externally. And that is fine. Individualism has served black people in the usa well for those that want to integrate, to merge, to miscegenate, to become one with the non black in the usa.

  On 2/12/2025 at 8:04 PM, Troy said:

We do have experience with this already. There are mega churches all over the country that are supported by relatively small contributions by large numbers of people. Some of those churches have schools and provide a wide variety of services for the community in addition to ensuring contributors get into heaven. But churches have all types of tax advantages that regular businesses don’t.

yeah, I mentioned black churches in my reply to Profd, yeah ok. but black churches are about themselves, again, they don't help each other, so...

  On 2/12/2025 at 8:04 PM, Troy said:

The real issue, I think, is creating wealth for the investors rather than lighting the pockets of some charismatic preacher. It is not just a matter of organizing the investors it’s coming up with the viable business.

the time has passed on that. The culture of ingratiating the preacher is fully embedded, the time to unravel that was in the 1900s not 2025 and after

  On 2/12/2025 at 8:04 PM, Troy said:

Alternatively, people can be content in simply contributing to a business without expecting to be rewarded financially. People contribute to my business simply because they want to support what I’m doing, which is beautiful because it actually does help. 

your right. I never said there are not black people with money who give with no desire for financial returns.  But the black fiscal poor can't lead a website to the kind of growth to become a "electronic freedom's journal".. not in my opinion. Can they be part of the journey yes, but not lead. That is asking the most from the poorest.

 

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It is time for black people in the usa to realize that the past has created a heritage of individualism that is warranted and needs to be championed. You want the best chances, probability, of communalism among black people throughout an entire country, leave the usa. Communalism in the usa is only viable in small tribal sections, not from sea to shining sea.  

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