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Keep on going.

Rock and Roll, Jazz are synonymous with £uck!ng

But those symbols didn't spring up on their own. the you came from a cultural whose history consists mostly of documenting wars.

I would say symbols are chosen or given meaning by the group. So symbols can't be divorced from the group that created it. The same is true for language. Personally I don't believe symbols have meanings in and of them selves. The reflect the culture that utilises them. That's interesting Troy because the white kiday at school listened to Rock and the brothers listened to hip hop and Rnb and bands my cousin who was a musician listened to as well. But I couldn't get either group to listen to the others music. @Troy

I would say symbols are chosen or given meaning by the group. So symbols can't be divorced from the group that created it. The same is true for language. Personally I don't believe symbols have meanings in and of them selves. The reflect the culture that utilises them.

Can you elaborate how symbols explain the similarities @Mel Hopkins

or we could both be a part of the same group. I don't know why there's such resistance to the idea that members of a group share some similarities with other members of the group. The Brothers in my neighborhood liked hip hop and old Kung Fu movies. What about you and your homies @Troy Twice, perhaps third time lucky.

The implication from K2 statement is that I am now showing analytical ability. Which implies it was lacking previously. Individual differences in a family can be due to individual differences. But how do you account for group similarities. @Mel Hopkins and @Troy

@Troy my position unlike K2 is unchanged so it is not I that is agreeing with him. After a couple of reversals he agrees with me. Not even Trump can dodge his legal exposure. Twitter helped get him elected it also is chronological evidence that will assist in his ouster. He has no concept of the truth. Which is problematic for him in a court of law. The main issue with the Stormi Daniels and the defamation suit is that his testimony creates legal exposure and the Daniels case will force him to open his accounting records

@Mel Hopkins granted I am not trying to convince you. But my question still is unanswered. Why do members of a group have similarities if language and culture aren't influential. Or accents and regional/local dialects. Yes Troy how does a person become analytical overnight.

You are just noticing what is apparent to everyone else.

Here's a list of Trump's legal exposure. http://fortune.com/2018/09/21/donald-trump-lawsuit-investigation-charges-news-update/

@Mel Hopkins if language and cultural aren't shapers then why so many similarities between members of the same loci. I am not certainly if thought is capable with outb language. Letters numbers are symbols without being symbolic.

Yes that's is my belief

Your thought process is a function of language which means your thinking is conditioned by your language and culture. If you can't think freely or independently of your culture,then how can you be free of all the mental and emotional prisons. Which are more effective than actual prisons due to their intangiblity. Your example makes my point of deluding ourselves that we have choice by imagining situations in which we do. However you could argue that if I you believe you are free, than you are. Which is the appeal of religion and perhaps philosophy. You create some sense of control and order. In order to forget we are flying through space on a rock following a flaming ball of gas. At about 86,000 miles per hour.

Freedom and choice or different. If you order from the menu in a restaurant you have constraints. You are to choose amongst the choices given. You are given choices of Presidential candidates which is different than choosing the President

Yes Cynique there are choices to be successful in a presubscribed way. It's like gangoing members have choice but they aren't free . Part of socialisation is surrendering some freedom.

I don't even believe in free will. It is not possible to be free of cultural or societal influence, unless you are a sociopath

To put it another way do you feel people are free? Troy you live a life that is beyond reach of the majority of people. How many people do you meet that can travel across the country and have their own home and business? Also you have more drive and focus than most people, not just Black people. Who else do you know that has a forum for discussion.

Keep them in check then why are there more billionaires and bigger wealth disparity? Viewpoint is a function of location perspective of experience. So I would make a distinction on how I was using the term. @Troy what about the dollars removal as the global currency any opinions?

Troy I said the US dollar is on the way out. Perhaps it's more about perspective than location. Has being in Florida changed your perspective about New York?

Here's ge link to the article https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-china-embrace-uneasily-aim-desirable-world-order-n910116. The removal of the US DOLLAR signals the end of American dominance.

I will reiterate my point we are in the midst of a huge geopolitical shift. Like the say past performance is not indicative of future results.

A Constitutional Crisis on top of everything else is not business as usual. This was reported by NBC news. Meanwhile, trade between Russia and China reached $87 billion in 2017, up from $64.2 billion in 2015. Putin said in Vladivostok that this figure is expected to top $100 billion for 2018, and that both sides want to increase the use of their national currencies in lieu of the U.S.dollar.