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Yes I'm also aware they I can "borrow" and eBook from a library with leaving my home. Why on earth would someone pay for an ebook under these conditions? The business models better catch up...

Nah'Sun, I think the Black filmmakers place upon themselves this aspect of "paying homage" when they should be concerned with "entertaining". I think it is possible to make a "conscious" film that is also entertaining (commercially successful), but it is very, very difficult. White filmmakers don't have to worry about "respecting the ancestors" so they just go on a make movies about anything, even occasionally Black folks as in Django, Red Tails, etc. Tyler Perry and Bob Johnson are not too concerned about how Black are portrayed in the media and have focused in entertaining folks and they have become exceedingly wealthy as a consequence. But they have also borne the brunt of harsh criticism from the Black community. Again, i think it is very possible to make an exciting, commercially successful, historically accurate film about people like Toussaint L'ouverture for example. I'm not sure why these stories are not make into movies. I'm mean they are making films about Abraham Lincoln being a vampire hunter, for Christ's sake, before doing a film about the heroics of a Nat Turner.

No I have not are you referring to this book? Is so why?

The Anansi conference was this past November. I was unaware of it -- it looked like quite good with an excellent assemblage of authors. I ABSOLUTELY would have attended covered, and shared information about it -- if I knew about it. I'm familiar with Lee Low Books but was unfamiliar with their New Voices Awards, which I see goes back over a decade. The SCBWI On-The-Verge Emerging Voices Award looks like a really good program. I saw the Adiche Ted talk which I've embedded below (you just post the link and program does the rest) I'm up on Jacquline Woodson, the Library School Journal described Each Kindness as one of the best best for 2012. LookAgainPress, thanks for taking the time to share all of this information. In today's world where only the "Big" books and award get any coverage it is really up to us to spread the word. I use this site to learn about the industries happenings so TRULY appreciate the type of contributions. -- Thanks!

Again I never heard a Black man describe Eminem as the greatest rappper. Once I heard that I figured there was an ulterior motive -- I just could not think of a plausible one, so I'll take Ice-T at his word.... In the hip-hop would I'm not convinced they would have a white rapper anymore due that a Black rapper. Vanilla Ice was widely rejected while the Beastie Boys were embraced -- I think largely due to talent or lack thereof. In recent years talent does not seem to correlate very much with commercial success and there seems to be a bias toward young, Black males who are "street".. Even a rapper like Kanye West (highlighted) in the film is weak compared to Caz, or Mellie Rap or KRS one....

LookAgainPress please feel free to share the links, photos, video of the business you are recommending. Sometimes I follow up and do this on behalf of others I'm just too pressed for time nowadays....

LoookAgainPress, please just post the information. There are people here who just read and don't contribute to the discussion but would be interested in learning about the event. These pages are also indexed by search engines so people search on the subject can discover the information as well. It is not likely the people will go through the additional step of trying to figure out how to reach you, then send a request and wait for a response.

The reunion must have been a sight! Did you attend the 50th or a more recent one? The son in the story, describes how, when he was a kid, he meet another boy (Black) just hanging his neighborhood. He asked kid if he wanted to go to his house and kids said, "yeah", and off they went... When they got home the visiting kid sees his sisters playing in the yard and said, "Who are they?". The son replied, "Those are my sisters". The parents step into the back yard to meet their son's new playmate, and the visiting kid says, "Who are they?" The son, growing incredulous says, "Those are my parents" The visiting kids say "Aw man!" and he leaves. Cynique it would be something if that visiting kid was one of you sons. I'll try to find the story and post a link. The American Life has this habit of cleverly naming programs that obscures what the stories will be about, but make it really hard to reference.

How in the world did I miss this post! I found this fascinating. The line: “All that Star Wars, Dungeons & Dragons, Steampunk shit ain’t real, bruh. I keeps it real, son…for myself and definitely for my seeds (“children”). I got no interest in those ‘escapist’ hobbies, yo.” was hilarious I could just hear the speaker. I've heard many variations of the same idea myself. This subject is quite topical in the context of the film Django as Black people, so desperate to see our own story, told are bizzarely criticizing the film because it is no done accurately?! In High School (back before they taught to a test and still tried to educate kids) we were given a book to read called Subliminal Seduction (Signet, 1974). In this book the author talks about advertisers using techniques which you were not consciously aware f (subliminal) to sell products, reducing your ability to evaluate the proposition making it easier to sell to you. The ability for our minds to be controlled on a subliminal level has only increased. needless to say those controlling out minds do not have our interests at heart... ---------------- LookAgainPress, welcome to the conversations!

Cynique, if you care to share here on a new thread I'd like to hear about your sibling how many what were they like, how old were they when they passed.

There was an interesting story on This American Life about a family in Maywood IL. The young woman (Italian) was date another student. Her beau was also Italian. At the same time the young lady was banging this Brother (Black) who was on the basketball team. The young lady became pregnant and as was custom during the time (about 40 years ago I believe), the girl's father forced the kids to get married When the child was born the young it was the Brother's child but the young lady was in complete denial -- so much so she truly believed the child was her husbands. The rest of the family, unaware of the young lady's jungle fever had no reason to suspect otherwise... at least not desire to. The family was Italian and suggested the darker complexion child, a boy, inherited Moorish trails from their southern Italian ancestry (which makes me think of Pioneer's argument ). Whenever the young man encountered people in public they assumed he was Black. The poor boy was confused too as he had no reason to believe he had a Black father. If you are into great telling of true stories check out This American Life, from Chicago Public Media. this story of just one of hundreds -- though fascinating this one is not even one of my favorites. It just reminded me of Cynique because the principals involved are from her neck of the woods. You can down load this and other stories (as podcasts) from Amazon or Itunes

Pioneer I don't agree with Ice-T either. I enjoy the foul mouthed Biggie Smalls, the funny Schooly D, or the conscious Chuck D more myself. I was just really very suprised by Ice-T's statement about Eminem, I thought Nah'Sun would get a kick out of proiminet Hip-Hop Artish big upping Eminem So you are saying all that stuff about 8 Mile growing up in the 'hood is all BS? I would not be surprised, I sure most Rappper front (put on airs) about growing up in the ghetto under rough circumstances.

Something From Nothing: The Art of Rap - Eminem - Clip Hey Nah'Sun if you are lurking out there Ice-T said this about Eminem; It is amazing the a white boy is the greatest rapper of them all (I've paraphrased Ice-T but that is essentially what he said). I'm not saying I agree, I'm just saying.... He did have Bam in his documentary, but overall I'd give the documentary which I'd give 2.5 stars (out of 5). It was a very biased and shallow treatment of Rap, but I'm sure most youngins and hip-hop fanatics will love it. It was good to see so many different artists provide a sample of their lyrical skills.

One of the Brothers from Mandrill Louis Wilson passed yesterday. I learned about Mandrill in the 70's when "Can You Get It (Suzie Cesar)" was a B-Boy joint back in the day. From the Wilson Family: The centerpiece of our music and our lives, eldest brother LOUIS WILSON, affectionately known as "Sweet Lou," made his transition on Monday morning, January 7, 2013 in Southern California. On behalf of the Wilson Family and Mandrill, we ask that you please light a candle, hum a song, play a drum or say a prayer in remembrance of him. Lou would like that... We will keep you posted on plans for a musical tribute in the near future and other information. Best regards, Ric, Carlos and Wolf www.mandrillmusic.com

Yeah, Del cast her chart! You really do need the location at time of birth to cast a proper chart right? If the results past muster with Ms. Cynique I'll be impressed. I can't wait to see outcome.

Who is Arsenio Hall?

Pioneer. Steve Harvey is just one Black man a celebrity at that. He does not reflect all Black men. He certainly does not reflect me or any of the Black men I know (and I know a lot of Black men). That said I've seen Steve a number of times myself and I see no evidence that he has an affinity for "loud" clothing -- at least not in the last decade... I guess you also think Black people all dance well, talk in move theaters, are good at basketball, are biased toward criminality, are poor students, are promiscuous, don't like to read, have low self-esteems, love Barack Obama unconditionally, are all Christians. like watermelon and friend chicken, love rap music, and don't know what marriage is, right?.

No, Tyson's position is nothing new. Our desire to anthropomorphize everything from pets to aliens is our remarkable. While we are all presented with pretty much the same information we all see the world differently -- often wildly different. Tyson, like you see Cynique see the world in a way that makes sense to me and you two are much better at describing it and why than I.

Del, I thought that was Dissociative Identity Disorder?

Pioneer, that is funny I'm an Aries as well As far as dead people -- feel free to joke. What is the point. if we can't poke fun at each other once in a while. :-) Del yeah when my knowledge of astrology was limited to the daily horoscope published in the papers, I completely dismissed it as rubbish. After taking a class and seeing the results of a few readings I'm not so quick to dismiss it. I'm not saying I believe it completely I just don't completely reject it. Now that Pluto as been demoted from a Planet and we know there are other objects that exert an even larger influence than Pluto what has this revelation done to the astrological community? As far as psychic readings, I've had a few and know one ever said anything that was particularly compelling. Nothing that could not be divined through careful observation or plating the odds. I do them for fun, curiosity and the remote chance I discover someone with undeniable psychic ability (something I have not experience) I did have one reading, my first one, in the mid 1980's. The psychic said my I would be breakup with my girl friend, and that I would be relocating. I did not have plans to do either. Both happened within 1 year.

Pioneer, I will check out Grindhouse. Have you seen Reservoir Dogs (I believe Tarantino's first flick). I like that Reservoir Dogs more than Django, but less that Pulp Fiction. The best part of Django was Samuel Jackson. i would not be surprised if he is nominated for an academy award. The Klanmans' hood scene was funny (but too long). I think if the film ran another 30 minutes my head would have exploded.

Hi Pioneer of course I’m focused on your reasoning as your conclusions are a direct consequence of it. Using your calculator analogy; if you were trying to calculate, say the volume of a sphere, but used the wrong formula, the calculator would give you the right calculation but the wrong answer. Pioneer you are missing my point – even if I agreed with you based upon my own experiences I would never then jump to the conclusion that the observations applied to any other Italians than the ones you and I have observed. As a result, based upon what you have told me I would not assume you are right – regardless of my observations. If you are restricting your observation to ONLY Italian Americans, then that would certainly bias your observations almost completely on culture. OK let revisit what you wrote: "Any AfroAmerican who has lived, worked, or spent any reasonable about of time around Italian Americans can't help but to notice some of the behavioral and even physical similarities between them and us more so than other White Americans." I’m African America and have spent time with Italian people. I have not noticed the similarities you suggest (spicy food, loud clothing*). Now that my observations are in direct opposition to your what happens to your theory? Black people, white people, Italian Americans are such a diverse community of people, within their own demographic, comparison with folks of a different demographic is virtually impossible with being very methodical. Drawing conclusion without doing is just an anecdotal observation – true for you but not, necessarily true in general. ________________________ *Black people liking spicy food and loud clothing is a stereotype.

Del I've heard of Goswami, but I'll review the material you've provided. It will take a few days. When I was a kid my people in the south used to always tell stories about dead people. Recently an aunt in her late 80's told she would see AND hear my descended grandmother walk through the house open and close cabinets, etc. Someone I know really well said they saw a young girl walking in their apartment -- just a plain as day. They knew she was an apparition, a ghost of some form, and left on her own. I've heard many similar stories. The mind is a funny thing. I think it is more likely these people where hallucinating than seeing actual spirits. Cynique, whenever I think about someone -- out of the blue I almost always here from them within a day. This happens so often I don't even question it anymore. In fact it happened this morning. Sometimes I feel like I can tell when someone is thinking about me. But I think there are simpler explanations like coincidences. Cynique I always wanted to learn how to play bridge.

Pioneer I don't have to met any Italians to know your reasoning is flawed. Again, just because YOU observed something does not make it true outside what you've observed. Again, if who want to extend your observations to an entire group of people go ahead. Just don't be surprised if others, like myself, are astonished by your methods for drawing conclusions. In terms or how large a sample you need and how much data should be collected, measured and evaluated would require a courses. I would however start by looking at Italians native to various regions in Italy -- this might help eliminate of the cultural bias you may be observed in New York.. How many Italians in Italy have you observed and evaluated?

Pioneer, Spike Lee has not seen the movie -- forget what he has to say, the media is just stirring up some BS. You loved the film -- wow! You did not feel it was too long at all? You did not find the shoot outs over the top with the blood splatter? That last scene reminded me of a video game. You did mind the spurious characters that served no purpose like the woman with the bandana over her face? You did not mind the complete break down of the Django partner (he was a different character by the end of the movie)? I agreed the actors were very good. Foxx was fine in his role. Jackson of off the chain -- he does really well with Tarantino's writing. Did you ever see Pulp Fiction? How would you rank Pulp Fiction versus Django as a film? Someone described the affinity Black people had for the film being derived from the fact that so many white people where slaughtered by a Black superhero. Would you put yourself in this category Pioneer?